I make no such assumption. Rather, I start from the assumption that in many scenarios, they cannot be reasoned with in any useful capacity. However, to assume that the treatment of any organization, which is necessarily comprised of individuals operating within a structure, should be completely black and white is a foolish approach. Likewise, unilateral action of any kind taken in support of or against any such organization without understanding the precise workings of the body in question is likely to be judged by history as foolish at best, suboptimal in the middle ground, and disastrous at worst.
It matters if your objective is to figure out why things are the way they are, in the interest of figuring out how to change those things. History is replete with cases of people trying to effect change by attacking problems from angles that represent a fundamental misunderstanding of the contributing factors involved, with accordingly hilarious or disastrous results, depending on your perspective.
And I see you're a fucking idiot. Did you actually read what I wrote? Hey man, you're free to like whatever you want. Likewise, I'm free to say you've got an awful sense of humor, or that you're just a fucking jackass.
Man, it's actually people like you that better fit the "ultra sensitives" mold. I'm a little too old and have seen a little too much shit to fit that category myself. Go cry somewhere else.
I don't think rape is funny in any context. If you do, I think there's something wrong with you. There's a difference between dryly/wryly stated cause and effect speculations based on the likely outcome of certain scenarios, and actually thinking the act of rape is amusing. I really hope you don't think it is amusing.
I don't view this is a morality play. I simply said it isn't funny, and I meant what I said. On the morality bit, you might be surprised to learn that I don't believe in black and white absolutes of morality either. In my experience, it really is all a matter of perspective, painted in shades of gray.
While others may certainly feel differently, I draw the humor line at the point where lots of real people lose their jobs and see their lives wrecked because of acts like this. I'm not saying Murdoch is guilty of this (I don't believe that's been proven yet), and I'm not saying the other side is innocent or blameless either. I'm simply saying I don't think the situation, on the whole, is funny.
I'm absolutely certain that this is not the only business that does this kind of thing, which makes it even less funny. Hint: over the years I've known and worked with people on both sides of the pen testing "game." In other words, people with hats of many colors.
It really doesn't usually work that way in practice, at least not for certain types of materials that, while they may "only" be classified Secret, tend to be treated somewhat differently by default. A fair amount of stuff could be described in that manner. While it's true that Secret material isn't the sort of stuff that represents the end of the world if a security incident happens with said material, the level of safeguarding that is insisted upon at most facilities is significantly higher than many people might expect.
This is the sort of thing that falls into the category of "nobody ever got fired for being more careful than he had to be," and thus again, things work differently in practice. As an interesting side effect, you might think people couldn't get fired for incidents whereby materials were technically handled according to regulations, but when things go wrong, it happens anyhow.
I'm not sure what the previous poster meant; perhaps he was referring to things classified "Confidential," although even that doesn't typically go in the mail. Perhaps he meant data coming in as a result of the execution of warrants, but that stuff is not typically classified; the key thing with proper handling for such materials is demonstrating chain of custody.
Stuff That Matters doesn't go in the mail at all. It goes by courier, where the courier is typically someone employed with the Defense Courier Service, or an active duty military member with a courier card, or a federal agent with appropriate transport authority. Stuff That Really Matters which has to be physically moved from one location to another goes interesting routes, accompanied by many serious guys, who carry serious weapons and are perfectly willing to do what they have to.
I know these things because I used to carry various sorts of classified stuff around on occasion, back when I wore a uniform for a living.
Best of all, there appears to be no physical indication of the mic and camera's status, so consumers have no way of knowing when they're being monitored, or by whom... and if you don't find the idea of a TV that watches you creepy enough, apparently Samsung's Terms of Service include a clause allowing third-party apps to make use of the monitoring system, and use the data gathered for their own purposes.
Did you somehow manage to miss that part of the summary? It's only most of the summary, after all. In short, there's plenty to see here, only it's third parties doing the seeing, and you apparently don't get any say in when they do the seeing, or what they use the footage for.
Please mod parent "redundant." The point was already made, and there is no need to senselessly attack someone who perhaps made a careless post.
Yes, I know this is Slashdot. Despite my present UID, I've been here since Rob started it as a glorified board. Yes, I operated BBSes in the 1980s. Yes, anyone who has a problem with this needs to get off my lawn. HAND.
No worries. I've read most of your post history, and you seem like an interesting person. As for the other replies to your post, well, some people see a nail laying flush in a board and feel the need to drive it in an extra inch. I won't apologize for the actions of others, but I will say I wish they would attempt to think before typing.
All the same, I must accept the possibility that the other posters put what they considered adequate thought into their replies before hitting "Submit," and I therefore expressly disclaim any implied judgement of their intent. Simultaneously, and conditional upon the previous condition evaluating as true, I must also concede that I find said posters to be of limited maturity.
From my frame of reference, with the understanding that said frame is largely codified by my desire to convert the potential output of the intellectual capacity of certain persons to profit, I think it's a shame that you're in a position that makes providing you monetary compensation in the form of USD a difficult proposition. I'm sure you understand the complexities involved, all mutual advantages aside, in our present economic system.
You might be (!)surprised to discover that I am a person not entirely unlike yourself, perhaps even with a somewhat similar history in some respects, just operating in a different sphere, and perhaps with different views on what is acceptable in the short term for the attainment of long term goals for $planetary_population. It would likely be nice for us to get in touch via alternate channels; for the moment, I'll leave this as an exercise for you.
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No matter who wins, the lawyers get paid, and "winning" is an ill-defined thing in fights between players like these anyhow.
I make no such assumption. Rather, I start from the assumption that in many scenarios, they cannot be reasoned with in any useful capacity. However, to assume that the treatment of any organization, which is necessarily comprised of individuals operating within a structure, should be completely black and white is a foolish approach. Likewise, unilateral action of any kind taken in support of or against any such organization without understanding the precise workings of the body in question is likely to be judged by history as foolish at best, suboptimal in the middle ground, and disastrous at worst.
In short, this video sums it up.
It matters if your objective is to figure out why things are the way they are, in the interest of figuring out how to change those things. History is replete with cases of people trying to effect change by attacking problems from angles that represent a fundamental misunderstanding of the contributing factors involved, with accordingly hilarious or disastrous results, depending on your perspective.
Stay thirsty, my friend.
Indeed, the expression "follow the money" comes to mind.
Every now and then I like to call the business being advertised in that manner, and point out comments like the GP. It's good for a laugh.
Why don't you fuse your asshole to your mouth so you have more difficulty spamming people with your ad?
I think he's saying God is more like this.
And I see you're a fucking idiot. Did you actually read what I wrote? Hey man, you're free to like whatever you want. Likewise, I'm free to say you've got an awful sense of humor, or that you're just a fucking jackass.
Man, it's actually people like you that better fit the "ultra sensitives" mold. I'm a little too old and have seen a little too much shit to fit that category myself. Go cry somewhere else.
I don't think rape is funny in any context. If you do, I think there's something wrong with you. There's a difference between dryly/wryly stated cause and effect speculations based on the likely outcome of certain scenarios, and actually thinking the act of rape is amusing. I really hope you don't think it is amusing.
I don't view this is a morality play. I simply said it isn't funny, and I meant what I said. On the morality bit, you might be surprised to learn that I don't believe in black and white absolutes of morality either. In my experience, it really is all a matter of perspective, painted in shades of gray.
While others may certainly feel differently, I draw the humor line at the point where lots of real people lose their jobs and see their lives wrecked because of acts like this. I'm not saying Murdoch is guilty of this (I don't believe that's been proven yet), and I'm not saying the other side is innocent or blameless either. I'm simply saying I don't think the situation, on the whole, is funny.
I'm absolutely certain that this is not the only business that does this kind of thing, which makes it even less funny. Hint: over the years I've known and worked with people on both sides of the pen testing "game." In other words, people with hats of many colors.
Mr. Burns is funny, which has value. This is not funny.
One day, you get this.
Congratulations, you're the first commenter in this story to demonstrate Godwin's law. Enjoy the results.
It really doesn't usually work that way in practice, at least not for certain types of materials that, while they may "only" be classified Secret, tend to be treated somewhat differently by default. A fair amount of stuff could be described in that manner. While it's true that Secret material isn't the sort of stuff that represents the end of the world if a security incident happens with said material, the level of safeguarding that is insisted upon at most facilities is significantly higher than many people might expect.
This is the sort of thing that falls into the category of "nobody ever got fired for being more careful than he had to be," and thus again, things work differently in practice. As an interesting side effect, you might think people couldn't get fired for incidents whereby materials were technically handled according to regulations, but when things go wrong, it happens anyhow.
I'm not sure what the previous poster meant; perhaps he was referring to things classified "Confidential," although even that doesn't typically go in the mail. Perhaps he meant data coming in as a result of the execution of warrants, but that stuff is not typically classified; the key thing with proper handling for such materials is demonstrating chain of custody.
Stuff That Matters doesn't go in the mail at all. It goes by courier, where the courier is typically someone employed with the Defense Courier Service, or an active duty military member with a courier card, or a federal agent with appropriate transport authority. Stuff That Really Matters which has to be physically moved from one location to another goes interesting routes, accompanied by many serious guys, who carry serious weapons and are perfectly willing to do what they have to.
I know these things because I used to carry various sorts of classified stuff around on occasion, back when I wore a uniform for a living.
Best of all, there appears to be no physical indication of the mic and camera's status, so consumers have no way of knowing when they're being monitored, or by whom... and if you don't find the idea of a TV that watches you creepy enough, apparently Samsung's Terms of Service include a clause allowing third-party apps to make use of the monitoring system, and use the data gathered for their own purposes.
Did you somehow manage to miss that part of the summary? It's only most of the summary, after all. In short, there's plenty to see here, only it's third parties doing the seeing, and you apparently don't get any say in when they do the seeing, or what they use the footage for.
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If I deploy a 3.3 guest on a host running 3.3, does it automatically become 3.3 repeating and go on forever?
Crappy quality, but hey, it works. Reminds me of the GP.
Unrelated, but you may also enjoy this clip. It's one of my all time favorites.
Mod parent up.
On the Internet, nobody may know you're a dog, but everybody knows you're an asshole.
Please mod parent "redundant." The point was already made, and there is no need to senselessly attack someone who perhaps made a careless post.
Yes, I know this is Slashdot. Despite my present UID, I've been here since Rob started it as a glorified board. Yes, I operated BBSes in the 1980s. Yes, anyone who has a problem with this needs to get off my lawn. HAND.
No worries. I've read most of your post history, and you seem like an interesting person. As for the other replies to your post, well, some people see a nail laying flush in a board and feel the need to drive it in an extra inch. I won't apologize for the actions of others, but I will say I wish they would attempt to think before typing.
All the same, I must accept the possibility that the other posters put what they considered adequate thought into their replies before hitting "Submit," and I therefore expressly disclaim any implied judgement of their intent. Simultaneously, and conditional upon the previous condition evaluating as true, I must also concede that I find said posters to be of limited maturity.
From my frame of reference, with the understanding that said frame is largely codified by my desire to convert the potential output of the intellectual capacity of certain persons to profit, I think it's a shame that you're in a position that makes providing you monetary compensation in the form of USD a difficult proposition. I'm sure you understand the complexities involved, all mutual advantages aside, in our present economic system.
You might be (!)surprised to discover that I am a person not entirely unlike yourself, perhaps even with a somewhat similar history in some respects, just operating in a different sphere, and perhaps with different views on what is acceptable in the short term for the attainment of long term goals for $planetary_population. It would likely be nice for us to get in touch via alternate channels; for the moment, I'll leave this as an exercise for you.