It was meant to be a comparison between Hitler's actions leading up to WWII and not a reference to Putin's role model. Prior to WWII a number of actions were taken to Hitler that were, in some ways, similarly responded to as Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
I find this rather disturbing in light of Russia's Growing Isolation. I'm left to wonder if Russia is 'just being Russia' or if these laws are being passed with the intent of gently nudging companies like Google and Adobe out of the country. Russia's recent actions in Ukraine have left me with a very Hitleresk taste.
You can judge the morality of a nation by the way the society treats its animals.
-Mahatma Gandhi
Does it really matter why, some thinks this is important. It the one before us at the moment. I'd give it less weight than say the kidnappings and atrocities that are occurring in various parts of the world right now but, that's not what the OP was in reference to. While I believe granting "person-hood" to a non-human is not the right answer (look at how well making businesses persons has served us), I do believe that animals in general should be treated much better than they often are and penalties for improper (inhumane) treatment should be much more severe. Then again, I watch a lot of Criminal Minds and know that torture and killing of small animals is a gateway to serial killing.
Gotta give him thumbs up for enthusiasm. One can always hope, he has a few BOFH advisers to scope the project and give it a reality check. I get the concerns about the scale of this type of project but, I do occasionally wish someone would force us to get rid of a couple legacy systems I have to deal with and am forced to find creative and often insecure ways to keep them up and running.
Granted "cloud-based" gives me the heebee jeebees. Whose cloud?
In terms of reporting a danger, you may well have a point but, you can also look at it in terms of reporting that once it crosses the ocean the radiation is at a very low level and does not present a threat . . . In which case you may still have a point. Well at least now we have a benchmark for how long it takes radiation to get to the U.S. from Japan, might come in handy someday.
Of course now that I want it, I can't find a reference for it . ..
On of the issues in doing a project like this for free, is that many customers equate the cost of an item or service with its value. In the case Anonymous Coward mentioned above the system/website has no cost so some will feel that is has no value. It can also extend to the persons time to develop/maintain the system. As the system grows, change requests are submitted that 'cost' the developer but, add no cost or value in the eyes of the customer.
Several companies that offered support for 'free' services discovered that customers from the free service were much more demanding and intolerant that those that paid even a nominal fee for the same or a similar service. A few companies even discontinued their 'free' offerings as the cost to maintain those services became too burdensome.
On one side you have Google as it was, everything it finds, indexed categorized and available to be found. The other end of the spectrum would be a world without search engines. A vast array of options exist between those two points. Yes, Google is judge, jury and executioner for now as it is their %$%$ search engine and they haven't been forced to do otherwise. Who would you have sit in judgement instead? Who should bear the cost?
Honoring no requests is not an available option for Google any longer, it has been decided for them this can not be the case. In regard to honoring all requests, that's not a workable solution either. Would have have it so that I could request that all positive information about you be removed from search results? No, then someone has to arbitrate. Why foist rules upon a new system in the midst of its infancy?
If you don't like the results of your request, you can appeal or avail yourself of the courts.
There is also a side-show like display where a persons hand is hidden behind a partition and a fake hand (placed where there hand 'should' be) is struck with a hammer causing the subject to flinch and act as their hand had been hurt. Brain Games mucked about with this one on of their shows. While this may just be triggering a fight of flight response, it interesting the note that the irrational portion of the brain seems to override the rational part (the one that 'knows' your hand is safe). After reading BringsApples post it struck me that these two cases may be opposite sides of the same coin.
Heard about this on NPR during the morning drive and how the "place cells" were found 30 years ago and how that researcher's students found "grid cells" recently to complete the picture. The most intriguing part of the story was the expectation of the impact that this discovery will have on the world of philosophy, as it now it know that our brains have a physical (mathematically based and similar to a computer) mechanism for knowing where we are in 3D space. They also discussed while no practical use or 'cures' are on the immediate horizon, this is apparently the first brain function to go with the onset of Alzheimer's and may lead to greater understanding.
Is it a question of worth watching or of worth watching in a stadium for $XXX? I'll never understand why someone pays that kind of money to sit in bad seats in the cold, wet etc. when they should be able to watch it from home. It's hard to fathom that ticket sales are worth more than TV rights any more. IMHO, all blackouts do is punish the fans who weren't going to buy a ticket anyway.
According to a story I heard recently on NPR, the only currently legal use of drones in the U.S. is in the film industry. The story added that the FAA is expected to take a few years to sort out the rules for commercial drone use. Pilot training programs, certifications and the like will need to be developed and put in place, don't recall any mention of autonomous drones. The air-ways should be truly interesting once Google brings it's ala Jetson car to the mix.
Okay, so apparently I'm the only one that was left confused after reading the headline, which gave me a Detective Thorn ala Soylent Green flashback, and the summary, after-which I had that look dogs get when they're confused...
I can't find a proper reference at the moment but, I have heard several comments about the funerary practices in some of the affected areas. Some cultures still practice ritual washing as part of the burial process. If this is in fact the case, it's a very bad news when pared with a bug like Ebola. While much of what I've read above seems to be hype or "fear of the white man" syndrome (full, disclosure, yes I'm white) the effects of Ebola are horrible bordering on the horrific and it has generated a lot of fear. Marry that with areas that aren't comfortable with modern (western) medicine and see that the treatment, which is mostly comfort measures and preventing the spread of the disease, doesn't cure anyone and, well let your imagination run a bit and you should be able to paint a pretty picture.
I'd startup a conversation with these folks www.botball.org. My son and several of his friends have participated and it was a great experience for them. While the kits are a pricey, the setup they use for competition isn't. Once you have the kits it shouldn't take that much effort to let the vets do their own thing or even organize botball-esque events within the VA.
"This is, without a doubt, a really stupid thing to actually try. So don't."
Hmm, wow. Nope the really stupid idea is posting a story on the InterWeb about a really stupid idea and warning us that it's "a really stupid idea". Road & Track should be ashamed that many Slashdoters are now searching E-Bay, CarMax and the trades for an S-Class to try this out in or texting their friends (hopefully not while driving to see them) with S-Class' to try this out. Responsible media, right! Telling geeks about a hack, is like giving crack to a junkie. Tomorrow's lead, dozens die recreating S-Class hack.
I heard the same interview with Tom Frieden, Head of the CSC, that xylo36 did. In the interview he stated that Ebola has not really changed since it was first discovered, they have been monitoring the viruses DNA. It's just a nasty little bugger.
Granted it all seems reasonable, the issue I see is that it's not practical.
You can't un-send an e-mail, not really. I have to control my desire to chuckle, in that sad sort of way, every time we get this sort of request internally. Unless the message was just messed in some way that keeps it from being sent, it's gone pretty much as soon as you hit send. We don't have a practical way to pull it off a system that isn't running Outlook (and even then if it's been read, it's a no go) and if the recipient has a Blackberry, pretty much all bets are off.
I'm left wondering what real result or final state Goldman thinks they are going to achieve, the damage is already done.
P.S. Wondering why anyone at Goldman ever sends anything to a GMail address . . .
Open primaries go both ways, so I really don't see how you can complain. It's also rather odd to think that just two parties can represent the depth and breadth of political views in the U.S. How about we junk the primary system and simply have run off elections in the case where no candidate gets more that 50% of the vote?
Okay, so I want to visit a site. So I have to go search Un1c0rn to see if it's on the list? What about all the ad, video and other sites this sites gets content from? Seems like a plugin that uses data from the "your site is in a poor state" database would be much more practical. It could replace at risk content with a big WHOA! graphic...
The legal issue comes after the moral one. The questions posed is a classic choice of "sacrificing one to save more than one" an ethical dilemma, not a legal one. Laws may be written to codify the ethical decision that has been made but, the ethics must be resolved before laws can be created to uphold those morals.
Thanks for giving me the opening for this thought (Charliemopps)... While reading the article, I was again amazed by the lengths that some individuals will go to in order to avoid answering the moral question before them. In the case presented someone is going to die; either the driver or the two bystanders. It doesn't matter why the situation exists, it exists, we've gone past why. You must choose who will die as the dilemma dictates someone must die.
Stopping the car isn't an option that is available or putting it another way, stopping the car results in either the death of the driver or the two bystanders.
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It was meant to be a comparison between Hitler's actions leading up to WWII and not a reference to Putin's role model. Prior to WWII a number of actions were taken to Hitler that were, in some ways, similarly responded to as Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
I find this rather disturbing in light of Russia's Growing Isolation. I'm left to wonder if Russia is 'just being Russia' or if these laws are being passed with the intent of gently nudging companies like Google and Adobe out of the country. Russia's recent actions in Ukraine have left me with a very Hitleresk taste.
Uh, China.
Well this comes to mind:
You can judge the morality of a nation by the way the society treats its animals.
-Mahatma Gandhi
Does it really matter why, some thinks this is important. It the one before us at the moment. I'd give it less weight than say the kidnappings and atrocities that are occurring in various parts of the world right now but, that's not what the OP was in reference to. While I believe granting "person-hood" to a non-human is not the right answer (look at how well making businesses persons has served us), I do believe that animals in general should be treated much better than they often are and penalties for improper (inhumane) treatment should be much more severe. Then again, I watch a lot of Criminal Minds and know that torture and killing of small animals is a gateway to serial killing.
Gotta give him thumbs up for enthusiasm. One can always hope, he has a few BOFH advisers to scope the project and give it a reality check. I get the concerns about the scale of this type of project but, I do occasionally wish someone would force us to get rid of a couple legacy systems I have to deal with and am forced to find creative and often insecure ways to keep them up and running.
Granted "cloud-based" gives me the heebee jeebees. Whose cloud?
Maybe it's a slow news cycle . . .
In terms of reporting a danger, you may well have a point but, you can also look at it in terms of reporting that once it crosses the ocean the radiation is at a very low level and does not present a threat . . . In which case you may still have a point. Well at least now we have a benchmark for how long it takes radiation to get to the U.S. from Japan, might come in handy someday.
Thanks, now I'm having flashbacks of Chuck Norris jokes in the Barrens on Drak'thul.
Of course now that I want it, I can't find a reference for it . . .
On of the issues in doing a project like this for free, is that many customers equate the cost of an item or service with its value. In the case Anonymous Coward mentioned above the system/website has no cost so some will feel that is has no value. It can also extend to the persons time to develop/maintain the system. As the system grows, change requests are submitted that 'cost' the developer but, add no cost or value in the eyes of the customer.
Several companies that offered support for 'free' services discovered that customers from the free service were much more demanding and intolerant that those that paid even a nominal fee for the same or a similar service. A few companies even discontinued their 'free' offerings as the cost to maintain those services became too burdensome.
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Cheerios are by far the best in the cereal aisle at growing chemically productive fungi
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Cheerios discovered to harbor a wide range of funguses
On one side you have Google as it was, everything it finds, indexed categorized and available to be found. The other end of the spectrum would be a world without search engines. A vast array of options exist between those two points. Yes, Google is judge, jury and executioner for now as it is their %$%$ search engine and they haven't been forced to do otherwise. Who would you have sit in judgement instead? Who should bear the cost? Honoring no requests is not an available option for Google any longer, it has been decided for them this can not be the case. In regard to honoring all requests, that's not a workable solution either. Would have have it so that I could request that all positive information about you be removed from search results? No, then someone has to arbitrate. Why foist rules upon a new system in the midst of its infancy? If you don't like the results of your request, you can appeal or avail yourself of the courts.
There is also a side-show like display where a persons hand is hidden behind a partition and a fake hand (placed where there hand 'should' be) is struck with a hammer causing the subject to flinch and act as their hand had been hurt. Brain Games mucked about with this one on of their shows. While this may just be triggering a fight of flight response, it interesting the note that the irrational portion of the brain seems to override the rational part (the one that 'knows' your hand is safe). After reading BringsApples post it struck me that these two cases may be opposite sides of the same coin.
Heard about this on NPR during the morning drive and how the "place cells" were found 30 years ago and how that researcher's students found "grid cells" recently to complete the picture. The most intriguing part of the story was the expectation of the impact that this discovery will have on the world of philosophy, as it now it know that our brains have a physical (mathematically based and similar to a computer) mechanism for knowing where we are in 3D space. They also discussed while no practical use or 'cures' are on the immediate horizon, this is apparently the first brain function to go with the onset of Alzheimer's and may lead to greater understanding.
Is it a question of worth watching or of worth watching in a stadium for $XXX? I'll never understand why someone pays that kind of money to sit in bad seats in the cold, wet etc. when they should be able to watch it from home. It's hard to fathom that ticket sales are worth more than TV rights any more. IMHO, all blackouts do is punish the fans who weren't going to buy a ticket anyway.
According to a story I heard recently on NPR, the only currently legal use of drones in the U.S. is in the film industry. The story added that the FAA is expected to take a few years to sort out the rules for commercial drone use. Pilot training programs, certifications and the like will need to be developed and put in place, don't recall any mention of autonomous drones. The air-ways should be truly interesting once Google brings it's ala Jetson car to the mix.
Okay, so apparently I'm the only one that was left confused after reading the headline, which gave me a Detective Thorn ala Soylent Green flashback, and the summary, after-which I had that look dogs get when they're confused...
I can't find a proper reference at the moment but, I have heard several comments about the funerary practices in some of the affected areas. Some cultures still practice ritual washing as part of the burial process. If this is in fact the case, it's a very bad news when pared with a bug like Ebola. While much of what I've read above seems to be hype or "fear of the white man" syndrome (full, disclosure, yes I'm white) the effects of Ebola are horrible bordering on the horrific and it has generated a lot of fear. Marry that with areas that aren't comfortable with modern (western) medicine and see that the treatment, which is mostly comfort measures and preventing the spread of the disease, doesn't cure anyone and, well let your imagination run a bit and you should be able to paint a pretty picture.
I'd startup a conversation with these folks www.botball.org. My son and several of his friends have participated and it was a great experience for them. While the kits are a pricey, the setup they use for competition isn't. Once you have the kits it shouldn't take that much effort to let the vets do their own thing or even organize botball-esque events within the VA.
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"This is, without a doubt, a really stupid thing to actually try. So don't."
Hmm, wow. Nope the really stupid idea is posting a story on the InterWeb about a really stupid idea and warning us that it's "a really stupid idea". Road & Track should be ashamed that many Slashdoters are now searching E-Bay, CarMax and the trades for an S-Class to try this out in or texting their friends (hopefully not while driving to see them) with S-Class' to try this out. Responsible media, right! Telling geeks about a hack, is like giving crack to a junkie. Tomorrow's lead, dozens die recreating S-Class hack.
Oh, yeah, please PM me your findings.
I heard the same interview with Tom Frieden, Head of the CSC, that xylo36 did. In the interview he stated that Ebola has not really changed since it was first discovered, they have been monitoring the viruses DNA. It's just a nasty little bugger.
Truly spoken like a user with no concern for someone operating a lab with little to no budget.
Granted it all seems reasonable, the issue I see is that it's not practical. You can't un-send an e-mail, not really. I have to control my desire to chuckle, in that sad sort of way, every time we get this sort of request internally. Unless the message was just messed in some way that keeps it from being sent, it's gone pretty much as soon as you hit send. We don't have a practical way to pull it off a system that isn't running Outlook (and even then if it's been read, it's a no go) and if the recipient has a Blackberry, pretty much all bets are off. I'm left wondering what real result or final state Goldman thinks they are going to achieve, the damage is already done. P.S. Wondering why anyone at Goldman ever sends anything to a GMail address . . .
Open primaries go both ways, so I really don't see how you can complain. It's also rather odd to think that just two parties can represent the depth and breadth of political views in the U.S. How about we junk the primary system and simply have run off elections in the case where no candidate gets more that 50% of the vote?
Okay, so I want to visit a site. So I have to go search Un1c0rn to see if it's on the list? What about all the ad, video and other sites this sites gets content from? Seems like a plugin that uses data from the "your site is in a poor state" database would be much more practical. It could replace at risk content with a big WHOA! graphic...
It was especially fun to go head to head against new players who failed to look up. You know kinda like Khan vs. Kirk.
The legal issue comes after the moral one. The questions posed is a classic choice of "sacrificing one to save more than one" an ethical dilemma, not a legal one. Laws may be written to codify the ethical decision that has been made but, the ethics must be resolved before laws can be created to uphold those morals.
Thanks for giving me the opening for this thought (Charliemopps)... While reading the article, I was again amazed by the lengths that some individuals will go to in order to avoid answering the moral question before them. In the case presented someone is going to die; either the driver or the two bystanders. It doesn't matter why the situation exists, it exists, we've gone past why. You must choose who will die as the dilemma dictates someone must die.
Stopping the car isn't an option that is available or putting it another way, stopping the car results in either the death of the driver or the two bystanders.