all the more reason to send a mail. however, instead of blatantly accusing someone, just suggest that perhaps a not-so-friendly individual has gained access to that and that machine and is attempting to use it for illegal activities. if the box belongs to the person trying to do whatever is going on, that person might be tempted to go and look elsewhere, if it's a compromised box, well, maybe 1 unpatched windows user will find the time and effort to install a firewall...
ahem. in what way does intelligence or product knowledge interfere with the necessity to have 12 applications open at the same time? i'm looking at a chock-full taskbar right now, 2 rows high...ofc it'd be a little less if i were able to run mozilla instead of IE, but alas, some IT guys are good, some even great, but many of them rank below the....wait, this sounds familiar somehow
So the assumption is that a child young enough to be attracted to the weasel-ferret-whatever mascot will read and understand the license agreements included with his or her software? Perhaps the BSA wants to donate to some sort of fund for early legal education?
Looks like you uncovered the secret strategy behind all this...they want to raise an entire generation of lawyers!
It always surpises me a bit how ppl can disregard a perfectly sensible and rational argument, just because they don't like it. Is it that difficult to see the validity of the point?
My point was that in the case of racism there's really no room for argument, it is just plain wrong. I'm not pretending to be the highest authority on, well, on anything really, but some things are just plain wrong.
Imagine ultra-right-wing wins with 2/3 of the electorate and can change the constitution, and they decide they don't like the anti-racism opinion and equally forbid it. Well, then...what's your point going to be, in that case? Are you going to accept that you can't speak up about anti-racism, because they made it illegal to do so? Will you think it's a good argument that you can't speak against racism, because it offends the ultra-right?
Well, first of all, I don't live in the USA, so this doesn't really apply, but assuming I did, and this scenario came to pass, I'd be gone faster than a skinhead who accidentally strolled into Harlem at 3 am. Once again, I can't help but argue that racism being wrong is fact, not opinion.
I let him have his opinions, and the right to express them. As long as he doesn't act on them and actually discriminates, we are both expressing our opinions.
But the very act of expressing a racistic opinion is an act of racism in itself. Maybe calling people names about the color of their skin is less painful than denying them a job because of it, but both are, once again, just wrong...
I know you're jesting, but really, does it take punishment to convince people that perhaps...just maybe...driving under influence is a stupid thing to do to begin with? Not because of maybe getting caught, but because of the possibility of hurting/killing someone/oneself?
sorry, but in this case I can't help but feel that the right to be treated equally despite gender, race or religion supercedes the right to express one's thoughts. one does not choose the color of one's skin, one's sex. fair enough, religion is chosen. one can chose, however, no matter how racist one is, to keep those thoughts to oneself or at least not express them in such a way that it offends people.
sorry, but one's views have nothing to do with it, unless you want to argue that whether or not racism is a good thing is a matter of opinion.
Actually, yes, i have. I slept under a bridge and didn't eat for weeks at a time. However, this was mainly my own fault for not accepting the system as my country(the netherlands) provides it. There were shelters, programs, options, solutions, you name it, and whether or not i got back on my feet was entirely up to me. Considering that now, a number of years later i'm sitting here posting to slashdot must mean i somehow made it out of that situation in one piece. Tis good to live in a country where one needn't be hungry.
true, Germany for one learned from its past mistakes and is redeeming itself to this very day. sorry, but nice as free speech may be, as much as an elemental part of a free society it may be, banning nazi behaviour somehow seems to, i dunno, make sense...
the trick is that under windows you don't even need drivers for a lot of stuff. Webcams, all sorts of input devices, printers, scanners, there's quite often some sort of generic driver that will get at the very least basic functionality out of the beast.
What's also interesting to note is that somehow when a peripheral doesn't work under windows, it's the fault of the manufacturer of the peripheral, but if it doesn't work under linux it's the fault of the os. seems like a little trust issue going on there...
how about one involving clouds? you know, the windows 95 startup screen ones? heck, if i try hard enough i could come up with one about decapitated msn butterflies.
all in all, let's just be happy penguins don't fly:-)
just because it's efficient doesn't mean it's good for Joe Schmoe. Joe wants a file with a pretty icon that he can download, double-click and install. Mozilla does this. Any windows user can download and install mozilla under linux with practically the same ease as under windows. Face it, double-clickety on the pretty icony thingie is as far as a lot of users are willing to go. Of course you could try and make the command line look like an IM program, in which case people might actually go so far as to type stuff...
and in 99% of the cases the only reason this happens is because some d*ck decided to check whether someone tried to install it on NT4 and halt the installer if that were the case. MS went out of their way with this whole compatibility mode thing to account for the majority of this sillyness, but some games just refuse to work...
perhaps, but the hordes of people who use their computers for mostly the same things as you, being e-mail, a bit of IM'ing and the spot of surfing, actually do like eyecandy. i myself like eyecandy. one of the reasons i use xp as opposed to 2k is that i actually find the default xp theme(switched to silver though) pleasant to the eye. and yes, i know there's tons and tons of ways to make just about any GUI driven OS look pretty, but i simply can't be bothered to invest a lot of time in it anymore, while the average user doesn't have the skill for it. for the last couple of years there's been a definite trend towards making both the computers themselves on the outside as well as the gui nice and pretty. i generally build my own boxes, but each time i see one of those commercials for those pretty black Dell boxes something in the back of my head goes "hmmmm, pretty, wanna have"
well, some of us do get those uptimes, and in my own case generally the reason things get rebooted is due to some sort of hardware failure or something fishy on the side of the electrical system. heck, i got 4 months uptime on a WinME box...
all the more reason to send a mail. however, instead of blatantly accusing someone, just suggest that perhaps a not-so-friendly individual has gained access to that and that machine and is attempting to use it for illegal activities. if the box belongs to the person trying to do whatever is going on, that person might be tempted to go and look elsewhere, if it's a compromised box, well, maybe 1 unpatched windows user will find the time and effort to install a firewall...
since "Clairvoyant" isn't in the list of moderation options?
ahem. in what way does intelligence or product knowledge interfere with the necessity to have 12 applications open at the same time? i'm looking at a chock-full taskbar right now, 2 rows high...ofc it'd be a little less if i were able to run mozilla instead of IE, but alas, some IT guys are good, some even great, but many of them rank below the....wait, this sounds familiar somehow
So the assumption is that a child young enough to be attracted to the weasel-ferret-whatever mascot will read and understand the license agreements included with his or her software? Perhaps the BSA wants to donate to some sort of fund for early legal education?
Looks like you uncovered the secret strategy behind all this...they want to raise an entire generation of lawyers!
It always surpises me a bit how ppl can disregard a perfectly sensible and rational argument, just because they don't like it. Is it that difficult to see the validity of the point?
My point was that in the case of racism there's really no room for argument, it is just plain wrong. I'm not pretending to be the highest authority on, well, on anything really, but some things are just plain wrong.
Imagine ultra-right-wing wins with 2/3 of the electorate and can change the constitution, and they decide they don't like the anti-racism opinion and equally forbid it. Well, then...what's your point going to be, in that case? Are you going to accept that you can't speak up about anti-racism, because they made it illegal to do so? Will you think it's a good argument that you can't speak against racism, because it offends the ultra-right?
Well, first of all, I don't live in the USA, so this doesn't really apply, but assuming I did, and this scenario came to pass, I'd be gone faster than a skinhead who accidentally strolled into Harlem at 3 am. Once again, I can't help but argue that racism being wrong is fact, not opinion.
I let him have his opinions, and the right to express them. As long as he doesn't act on them and actually discriminates, we are both expressing our opinions.
But the very act of expressing a racistic opinion is an act of racism in itself. Maybe calling people names about the color of their skin is less painful than denying them a job because of it, but both are, once again, just wrong...
I know you're jesting, but really, does it take punishment to convince people that perhaps...just maybe...driving under influence is a stupid thing to do to begin with? Not because of maybe getting caught, but because of the possibility of hurting/killing someone/oneself?
soz for doubleposting, but replacing "despite" by "regardless of" would be a better way of phrasing it :/
sorry, but in this case I can't help but feel that the right to be treated equally despite gender, race or religion supercedes the right to express one's thoughts. one does not choose the color of one's skin, one's sex. fair enough, religion is chosen. one can chose, however, no matter how racist one is, to keep those thoughts to oneself or at least not express them in such a way that it offends people.
sorry, but one's views have nothing to do with it, unless you want to argue that whether or not racism is a good thing is a matter of opinion.
Actually, yes, i have. I slept under a bridge and didn't eat for weeks at a time. However, this was mainly my own fault for not accepting the system as my country(the netherlands) provides it. There were shelters, programs, options, solutions, you name it, and whether or not i got back on my feet was entirely up to me. Considering that now, a number of years later i'm sitting here posting to slashdot must mean i somehow made it out of that situation in one piece. Tis good to live in a country where one needn't be hungry.
true, Germany for one learned from its past mistakes and is redeeming itself to this very day. sorry, but nice as free speech may be, as much as an elemental part of a free society it may be, banning nazi behaviour somehow seems to, i dunno, make sense...
the trick is that under windows you don't even need drivers for a lot of stuff. Webcams, all sorts of input devices, printers, scanners, there's quite often some sort of generic driver that will get at the very least basic functionality out of the beast.
What's also interesting to note is that somehow when a peripheral doesn't work under windows, it's the fault of the manufacturer of the peripheral, but if it doesn't work under linux it's the fault of the os. seems like a little trust issue going on there...
i'd say that not getting along just gives us all the more reason to move to another starsystem ;-)
it's a strange world we live in when being unemployed is a similar situation to being so injured that an ambulance needs to be involved...
how about one involving clouds? you know, the windows 95 startup screen ones? heck, if i try hard enough i could come up with one about decapitated msn butterflies.
:-)
all in all, let's just be happy penguins don't fly
hah, and yet noone has thought of bringing up those Windows 95 clouds...
and who'd be the one getting the chair, their laywer? would be kind of a win-win situation there ;-)
did it involve a container of acid and your sense of humor? :)
just because it's efficient doesn't mean it's good for Joe Schmoe. Joe wants a file with a pretty icon that he can download, double-click and install. Mozilla does this. Any windows user can download and install mozilla under linux with practically the same ease as under windows. Face it, double-clickety on the pretty icony thingie is as far as a lot of users are willing to go. Of course you could try and make the command line look like an IM program, in which case people might actually go so far as to type stuff...
and in 99% of the cases the only reason this happens is because some d*ck decided to check whether someone tried to install it on NT4 and halt the installer if that were the case. MS went out of their way with this whole compatibility mode thing to account for the majority of this sillyness, but some games just refuse to work...
perhaps, but the hordes of people who use their computers for mostly the same things as you, being e-mail, a bit of IM'ing and the spot of surfing, actually do like eyecandy. i myself like eyecandy. one of the reasons i use xp as opposed to 2k is that i actually find the default xp theme(switched to silver though) pleasant to the eye. and yes, i know there's tons and tons of ways to make just about any GUI driven OS look pretty, but i simply can't be bothered to invest a lot of time in it anymore, while the average user doesn't have the skill for it. for the last couple of years there's been a definite trend towards making both the computers themselves on the outside as well as the gui nice and pretty. i generally build my own boxes, but each time i see one of those commercials for those pretty black Dell boxes something in the back of my head goes "hmmmm, pretty, wanna have"
well, some of us do get those uptimes, and in my own case generally the reason things get rebooted is due to some sort of hardware failure or something fishy on the side of the electrical system. heck, i got 4 months uptime on a WinME box...
something about my sig and my mother's sig, and he'd probably manage to bring sex into the equation somewhere on either or both sides.
which is why human beings no longer have useless bodyparts like ie appendices....oh wait.
Read Tom Clancy for the answers to all this...and while you're at it, marvel at his ability to predict the Bush presidency...
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