It has made so many enemies, it doesn't know where the next attack may come from. So universal surveillance is necessary. Maybe make less enemies next time?
I think outside of the US whatever fun there may have been in visiting the neighbours and eating sweets is completely lost in its commercialisation. My memories are of Bonfire Night ("Remember, Remember the 5th of November, Gunpowder Treason and Plot"), roasted chestnuts, fireworks and burning Guy Fawkes. (You should be glad we remembered and burned Guy Fawkes all those hundreds of years, or whose face would have become the symbol of Anonymous, Wikileaks, etc?)
I thought for a moment this was going to be more interesting. "But you can't shut down our ISP, how will we connect to the internet?" "We don't care. Virgin Media has been used for copyright infringement and must be eliminated from the face of the earth. Our business model requires it, and we all know that the well-being of the music industry overrides all other concerns."
Wow, with such a superior, arrogant and manipulative attitude, I think it is time for Debian to write their own, or continue with what they have. I would have nothing to do with someone who has so little respect for anyone else's efforts, using FUD against other projects, and who is so obviously trying to lure people into his self-serving spider-web trap. Perhaps his vision is that systemd will be the one process to rule them all, my precioussssss... and then finally Linux will be all his. Run away!!!
Then do something about it and stop using US-based web services.
Also European and Australian ones, in fact any web services that are in a country where there is an NSA-affiliated tap point, or where your traffic crosses one of those countries. In fact, if you are a 'foreigner' best disconnect completely and go live in a cave -- but not one dug by the CIA because then you're a terrorist and we will send drones.
If it's in a standard, you're not fully standard-compliant until you implement it.
And then what? What if every company says, "Can we fully DRM our website?". Sounds like a good idea, more security, people can't read your JS code, whatever. What happens if the default position becomes everything DRM'd and locked down. That isn't the internet we grew up with.
And to those who say "I won't use those browsers or visit those websites", right... so if everything is DRM'd by default you're going to not have much choice if you want to read news or visit your bank or whatever.
Oracle should completely discontinue Java in the browser. It only causes misconceptions about Java's overall quality, and constant bad press which seems to inform almost all Slashdot opinion on the matter.
Also, I don't agree with your assessment. Java is used because it does a good job. You could say that popularity builds on popularity (e.g. widely-used, means courses, which means more use), but constant exposure means refinement and stability as well, and also mature libraries (Doug Lea concurrent stuff for example). None of this is to be sneezed at.
It would have been better if Android supported Python instead of Java.
To develop stable applications quickly, you want MORE compile-time checking, not less. Like if Java could mark variables as nullable or not and compile-time check that (there are some extensions for that, but they don't always keep up). Java/JVM does so much right... If people can't see that, then I suggest they attempt some reasonably large project in several languages and compare. (I have done exactly that, in C, Vala and Java; Rust will be next when I get some time.)
If we all jump at the same time, life will go on as normal. Who can knock up a new Slashdot in a week or two? (And has a lot of spare hosting capacity.)
Do you know any other sites like Slashdot I should consider reading if this goes to the wall? It took a year to find a reasonable Reader substitute. How long to get a reasonable Slashdot substitute?
Oh, yes, this is absolutely a "beta, so you'll get used to it" not a "beta so we can get feedback". Otherwise you'd see at least a little editor participation in the comments.
If they don't like it, the problem is for the marketing department to solve! I seem to remember this with copy-controlled CDs (aka corrupt CDs).
They are not just paying to have something created and then controlling it to make a profit. They are also attempting to distort the whole world to fit their business model. Should we all allow a Sony rootkit to run on our machines just so that they can protect their property and business model? If they were unchecked there would be no internet. Instead there would be some tightly controlled cable-TV like service which does 1% of what the internet does. There would be no innovation, most of what we know now online would not exist. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? That is what they would create if given half a chance. I do not want to live in your world. Given the choice, I would keep the internet and drop the big media industries and all their 'content'. There is plenty of interest in a world without them.
Also there are other business models than theirs -- for example here in South America, musicians make money by playing gigs. The music is copied freely on bootleg CDs and online. But people are accustomed to having live music at all major events (weddings, celebrations), and paying for it -- it would be an embarrassment not to have a band (or two). So musicians earn a living, but there is no mega-corp creaming a fat percentage off the top and trying to pass laws to stop movement of information.
Have you never looked at how this industry works? A musicians 'advance' is nothing of the sort. Rather it is a loan, which the music company aims to spend completely on producing the music and promoting it. The musician sees none of it. When the music starts earning, the musician's profit must pay off all of this loan before he/she sees anything. They are nothing but a bunch of parasites on both musicians and the public. Some musicians work around the edges of the system and avoid the worst of it, though, but it would be no big loss if this all went away completely.
That you support it suggests that you are badly misinformed -- either that or you are actually working for this industry, in which case I am wasting my time replying.
Or, for the atheists, "don't swipe other people's shit".
I suppose if you're being literal, then I would be stealing by watching a trailer for a movie as well? As I am taking a copy of the images in my memory, and yet I don't own them? Or is stealing only when someone else loses something? I don't think religious texts are any better as a basis for deciding what is fair or not fair in this situation.
When I started campaigning against the record industry's use of corrupted CDs (copy-protected / copy-controlled), I believed I knew what was fair, but when the people on the other side (RIAA/etc) are not in any way interested in fairness, just greed -- then really how can we possibly reach a fair solution? It doesn't exist. They pump the public with advertising to create desire for the product and then push the price as high as it will bear. The collateral damage are the people left with desire but no cash to pay, who are just left to suffer. They don't care about them. But when their dam got a bit leaky, then the whole pump the market thing didn't work so well. So now they corrupt the product and make it into a rootkit, that sounds fair to them, screw everyone else, that's what they do. I don't know how they got anything but what they deserved, and I have zero patience for any complaint from that industry now. If they install a desire in someone through advertising, and the victim resolves that manufactured internal pressure by downloading a file, that just means the old trick doesn't work any more. Their manipulation of people is backfiring. Maybe they need to try something a bit more respectful to be respected in turn. Then maybe things could be different. I'm sure you can find something in the scriptures about "Respect is something you earn".
Maybe it would be better to pay religions to convince the faithful that they will be tortured in Hell for copying things. Religions have a lot more experience with this kind of thing. I mean, WWJD? Would he download that torrent? Really? (Ignoring the incident with the money changer's tables for a moment.)
Just imagine that when you dragged across some text with your virtual finger, it got stuck on the end of it. Then wherever you poke your virtual finger, the text appears. Not so unnatural after all.
With any luck it will be added back via the gnome extensions page shortly after.
Yuck. I am not a desktop enthusiast. I don't have all day to try different extensions to get back what many consider to be basic features. I want a desktop that does its job according to some simple conventions, and otherwise keeps out of my way. A desktop is like a basic utility, not like a luxury item. A phone should (at the very least) work well as a phone -- if it doesn't then it is failing in its purpose. Desktops too. GNOME seem to have forgotten all of this.
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What the FUCK is going on with this country?
It has made so many enemies, it doesn't know where the next attack may come from. So universal surveillance is necessary. Maybe make less enemies next time?
Can't we find a use for them? As soon as capitalism gets to work on them, they'll be goners too.
I think outside of the US whatever fun there may have been in visiting the neighbours and eating sweets is completely lost in its commercialisation. My memories are of Bonfire Night ("Remember, Remember the 5th of November, Gunpowder Treason and Plot"), roasted chestnuts, fireworks and burning Guy Fawkes. (You should be glad we remembered and burned Guy Fawkes all those hundreds of years, or whose face would have become the symbol of Anonymous, Wikileaks, etc?)
I thought for a moment this was going to be more interesting. "But you can't shut down our ISP, how will we connect to the internet?" "We don't care. Virgin Media has been used for copyright infringement and must be eliminated from the face of the earth. Our business model requires it, and we all know that the well-being of the music industry overrides all other concerns."
Wow, with such a superior, arrogant and manipulative attitude, I think it is time for Debian to write their own, or continue with what they have. I would have nothing to do with someone who has so little respect for anyone else's efforts, using FUD against other projects, and who is so obviously trying to lure people into his self-serving spider-web trap. Perhaps his vision is that systemd will be the one process to rule them all, my precioussssss... and then finally Linux will be all his. Run away!!!
Maybe if everyone's cars drive at exactly the speed limit, then people will realize how ridiculous some of them are and get them changed.
Yeah, exactly. Someone somewhere has won a huge contract based on probably unverifiable claims of LED lifespans.
Then do something about it and stop using US-based web services.
Also European and Australian ones, in fact any web services that are in a country where there is an NSA-affiliated tap point, or where your traffic crosses one of those countries. In fact, if you are a 'foreigner' best disconnect completely and go live in a cave -- but not one dug by the CIA because then you're a terrorist and we will send drones.
This is my concern. If you give them DRM implemented widely, they will use it for EVERYTHING, even things that don't need it. DRM by default.
If it's in a standard, you're not fully standard-compliant until you implement it.
And then what? What if every company says, "Can we fully DRM our website?". Sounds like a good idea, more security, people can't read your JS code, whatever. What happens if the default position becomes everything DRM'd and locked down. That isn't the internet we grew up with.
And to those who say "I won't use those browsers or visit those websites", right ... so if everything is DRM'd by default you're going to not have much choice if you want to read news or visit your bank or whatever.
Oracle should completely discontinue Java in the browser. It only causes misconceptions about Java's overall quality, and constant bad press which seems to inform almost all Slashdot opinion on the matter.
Also, I don't agree with your assessment. Java is used because it does a good job. You could say that popularity builds on popularity (e.g. widely-used, means courses, which means more use), but constant exposure means refinement and stability as well, and also mature libraries (Doug Lea concurrent stuff for example). None of this is to be sneezed at.
It would have been better if Android supported Python instead of Java.
To develop stable applications quickly, you want MORE compile-time checking, not less. Like if Java could mark variables as nullable or not and compile-time check that (there are some extensions for that, but they don't always keep up). Java/JVM does so much right ... If people can't see that, then I suggest they attempt some reasonably large project in several languages and compare. (I have done exactly that, in C, Vala and Java; Rust will be next when I get some time.)
Best all the buyers (in the US) learn their rights then. Or form an organization to defend themselves en masse.
Buyers are not much at risk. It is the sellers they are after.
The one where they move to Australia which has been transformed to a kind of equal-sharing Eden. Racking my brains for some suitable search keywords.
Artists are always the last to be paid. It says so in their contract.
I'm ready to jump ship. Anyone else interested?
If we all jump at the same time, life will go on as normal. Who can knock up a new Slashdot in a week or two? (And has a lot of spare hosting capacity.)
Do you know any other sites like Slashdot I should consider reading if this goes to the wall? It took a year to find a reasonable Reader substitute. How long to get a reasonable Slashdot substitute?
Oh, yes, this is absolutely a "beta, so you'll get used to it" not a "beta so we can get feedback". Otherwise you'd see at least a little editor participation in the comments.
If they don't like it, the problem is for the marketing department to solve! I seem to remember this with copy-controlled CDs (aka corrupt CDs).
They are not just paying to have something created and then controlling it to make a profit. They are also attempting to distort the whole world to fit their business model. Should we all allow a Sony rootkit to run on our machines just so that they can protect their property and business model? If they were unchecked there would be no internet. Instead there would be some tightly controlled cable-TV like service which does 1% of what the internet does. There would be no innovation, most of what we know now online would not exist. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? That is what they would create if given half a chance. I do not want to live in your world. Given the choice, I would keep the internet and drop the big media industries and all their 'content'. There is plenty of interest in a world without them.
Also there are other business models than theirs -- for example here in South America, musicians make money by playing gigs. The music is copied freely on bootleg CDs and online. But people are accustomed to having live music at all major events (weddings, celebrations), and paying for it -- it would be an embarrassment not to have a band (or two). So musicians earn a living, but there is no mega-corp creaming a fat percentage off the top and trying to pass laws to stop movement of information.
Have you never looked at how this industry works? A musicians 'advance' is nothing of the sort. Rather it is a loan, which the music company aims to spend completely on producing the music and promoting it. The musician sees none of it. When the music starts earning, the musician's profit must pay off all of this loan before he/she sees anything. They are nothing but a bunch of parasites on both musicians and the public. Some musicians work around the edges of the system and avoid the worst of it, though, but it would be no big loss if this all went away completely.
That you support it suggests that you are badly misinformed -- either that or you are actually working for this industry, in which case I am wasting my time replying.
He's the messiah!
You mean "Thou shalt not steal"?
Or, for the atheists, "don't swipe other people's shit".
I suppose if you're being literal, then I would be stealing by watching a trailer for a movie as well? As I am taking a copy of the images in my memory, and yet I don't own them? Or is stealing only when someone else loses something? I don't think religious texts are any better as a basis for deciding what is fair or not fair in this situation.
When I started campaigning against the record industry's use of corrupted CDs (copy-protected / copy-controlled), I believed I knew what was fair, but when the people on the other side (RIAA/etc) are not in any way interested in fairness, just greed -- then really how can we possibly reach a fair solution? It doesn't exist. They pump the public with advertising to create desire for the product and then push the price as high as it will bear. The collateral damage are the people left with desire but no cash to pay, who are just left to suffer. They don't care about them. But when their dam got a bit leaky, then the whole pump the market thing didn't work so well. So now they corrupt the product and make it into a rootkit, that sounds fair to them, screw everyone else, that's what they do. I don't know how they got anything but what they deserved, and I have zero patience for any complaint from that industry now. If they install a desire in someone through advertising, and the victim resolves that manufactured internal pressure by downloading a file, that just means the old trick doesn't work any more. Their manipulation of people is backfiring. Maybe they need to try something a bit more respectful to be respected in turn. Then maybe things could be different. I'm sure you can find something in the scriptures about "Respect is something you earn".
Maybe it would be better to pay religions to convince the faithful that they will be tortured in Hell for copying things. Religions have a lot more experience with this kind of thing. I mean, WWJD? Would he download that torrent? Really? (Ignoring the incident with the money changer's tables for a moment.)
Just imagine that when you dragged across some text with your virtual finger, it got stuck on the end of it. Then wherever you poke your virtual finger, the text appears. Not so unnatural after all.
With any luck it will be added back via the gnome extensions page shortly after.
Yuck. I am not a desktop enthusiast. I don't have all day to try different extensions to get back what many consider to be basic features. I want a desktop that does its job according to some simple conventions, and otherwise keeps out of my way. A desktop is like a basic utility, not like a luxury item. A phone should (at the very least) work well as a phone -- if it doesn't then it is failing in its purpose. Desktops too. GNOME seem to have forgotten all of this.