Why does everyone seem to think that blackboxvoting's only purpose is to contest a republican win. Here's a hint: They don't care!
(Well, they may have personal preferences for who won, but that is most certainly NOT their purpose).
BlackBoxVoting would have done the EXACT SAME THINGS if Kerry had won. Actually, they effectively did, because they issued the foia requests well before the results of the election were even known.
We're all supposed to be geeks and nerds around here. If we can't even get it, no wonder nobody else cares.
Anyways, all BBV wants whether they find obvious fraud or not, is to make sure that fraud can NOT happen in the first place to ensure we never have to ask questions like will we have to rehold the election.
And where would this evidence come from? How many audit's do you think have occurred at this point? Here's a clue: the number's big and round.
Come on now people, black box voting is trying to address the inherent, proven issues with the current state of electronic voting. This has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the results of the election. This has EVERYTHING to do with technology. And yet a flame like this is moderated insightful.
Really, wtf. No wonder Bush got voted in again.
Ah well, I should be happy. I'm Canadian and the loonies soaring quite well today thanks to the results.
Not disputing the results, sure, that's entirely reasonable...once standard auditing has been performed and suggests there is no reason to dispute the results.
The problem I have is that you have NO IDEA whether the Diebold machines did their job do you?
I have no interest in disputing the results, at this time, either. HOWEVER, I most certainly retain the right to dispute the results should an audit suggest anything was out of line.
I most deffinately want to see the results of the audits. Then, and only then, will I form a solid opinion on whether these machines 'did their jobs' or not.
At my office, who ever fucks up takes the blame, NOT the admin. If I want admin rights, and I end up introducing a virus that takes our network down, I'm f'd. Thus I take the rights I need to get my work done. But I am able to define what I need, not you. The only time an IT admin would get shit where I work is if a machine _they_ are responsible for goes down. For example, a server.
We actively train all our employees how to be safe computer users. We keep people informed. You'd be amazed what kinds of productivity you can gain when people are empowered, and supported in that empowerment.
No, I will not. And I will not hire you either, so don't bother applying.
IT nazi's have no place in a properly run business. You're right you know, you're so right in fact that people can't stand to be around you. You're god almighty and nobody wants to bow down to you anymore. It's the attitude above all else.
An IT Admin's job is really to be the liason between technology needed to get work done, and the people that need to do that work. The people are key here, they are without a doubt more important than the technology. The day that all IT Admins understand this, and become advocates and facilitators for the people, things will be much better.
They are where I work because we've gone to great lengths to hire IT Admins that understand this. That is why you did not get the job. Someday the company that did give you a job will realize this as well.
I see where you're coming from, and that makes sense. I have to agree that I am also somewhat more comfortable riding on streets in urban settings...sort of. I've been hit 3 times in my life in urban settings, and I'm still alive. Actually, no major damage of any kind so I'm quite lucky. (Can't say so much about a couple of my bikes) I attribute this entirely to a couple of things: a) That the vehicles were moving relatively slowly and b) that I always saw the imminent collision in time to be prepared.
These wouldn't hold out in the country. Driving fast, and I wouldn't likely see it coming.
Anyways, my comfort level is currently just not riding bicycles around motorized vehicles at all. All it takes is one idiot to end your life, and I'm personally not willing to take that risk. North American travel is pretty much motor-vehicle centric unfortunately. (Mostly out of necessity)
I find it interesting actually that some of the safest urban environments to ride a bicycle in are actually some of the most densly populated. I'm quite certain I'd have no problem riding a bike around in urban centers in Japan for example.
I really do not need statistics to tell me that if I stay off the road, I will likely NOT be hit by a road travelling vehicle.
In other words, sure, it may be safer when travelling on a road, to stick to an actual lane, but it's all relative. Staying off the road is the safest, period.
This is why I am a cross-country mountain biker. Maybe twice a year do I end up having to ride on the road, and when I do, I'm NEVER actually on the road when there are any vehicles near. Even then, there is always a chance that some tool may careen off the road and into me on the shoulder. Not likely, but it has, and does happen.
So again, nice stats, but they don't exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy about riding on the road in any way.
You really want to take the high and mighty road when your chance of winning if someone else doesn't agree is essentially zero?
I have know 5 people over my life that have died road biking. I'm not quite 30. I don't know as many people that have died in CARS for chrissakes.
If I HAVE to ride on the road, I ride on the shoulder. No, not the last 6 inches of pavement. I mean almost in the field kind of thing.
Whatever turns your crank, whatever you're comfortable with, but watch it OK? Chances are DAMNED good that you are going to get hit with an attitude like that. The cops aren't usually around to stop an accident before it happens, they're usually there to scrape you into a bucket afterwards. Sure, the guy that hits you will go to jail, but what good'll that do you at that point?
Think of it this way, how do you handle passing of notes in class? By disallowing paper and pens to enter the room? Didn't think so.
I would think that your life might be easier if you weren't so worried about unnecessarily micromanaging every little detail about these workstations.
Another reason to consider this option: If you've got hackers in there, they are more likely to try to hack something that's been locked down, than something that is installed as expected.
Should have posted that first. Your post I replied to originally certainly does not read this way even remotely, it reads like any effort at conservation would be a waste of time.
Even still, I must back up my argument again. What we need is less arguing that we can't conserve enough, and more ideas on what we CAN do to conserve energy. Every little bit helps.
BTW, I'm an Ontarian myself. I wish you had some hard data to back up your figures since they don't seem to be based in fact. Rather they seem based in personal perceptions and assumptions.
You don't see a 1/200th savings by replacing a SINGLE light bulb in each residence as worthwhile?
Yes, you're right. Unless we come up with the silver bullet that reduces our energy consumption by %100, it's obviously not worth doing.
Yeah, that's a great plan indeed.
Just incase you can't figure this out, I'm not suggesting that the light bulb idea is part of the solution, though it couldn't hurt. What I am saying is that the problem has EVERYTHING to do with attitudes like the parent posters.
No doubt, I have to second this. I wasn't sure what to expect when I went to see Garden State, I was a little worried about Natalie's performance due to jaded perceptions from SW.
I was thoroughly surprised. Great movie with great acting.
I will never hold any actors performance in the SW prequels against them ever again. It's your fault George, quit it already!
I know you're just trying to be funny, however this is just a GPS instrument that has moved on the lava dome itself. Mount St. Helens did not move a few inches north in a couple of days. Nor will it tomorrow, or likely in the next thousand years.
Heh, try being Canadian, we don't have this option. Typically, we all walk around thinking we're poor because there are very few bills in our wallets...one can only afford to put so many $20+ bills in our wallet. But then you stick your hand in your pocket and pull out a treasure chest worth of gold and silver colored coins and realize you're rich! Well, you can at least afford to buy lunch anyways;)
(Note for those who don't know about Canadian money: Standard Coinage is 1c, 5c, 10c, 25c, $1 and $2. Bills are $5, $10, $20, $50, $100...however there are something like 10x as many $20 bills out there as all the others combined. It is quite rare for us to have stacks of bills in our wallets anymore. There has actually been rumours going around that they want to make the 5 a coin as well...pretty sure that's bs though, that's really starting to not make sense.
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If a song is recorded to disc, and nobody hears it, does it still make a sound?
Can the song be said to even exist?
Maybe beat Ken Jennings?
Why does everyone seem to think that blackboxvoting's only purpose is to contest a republican win. Here's a hint: They don't care!
(Well, they may have personal preferences for who won, but that is most certainly NOT their purpose).
BlackBoxVoting would have done the EXACT SAME THINGS if Kerry had won. Actually, they effectively did, because they issued the foia requests well before the results of the election were even known.
We're all supposed to be geeks and nerds around here. If we can't even get it, no wonder nobody else cares.
Anyways, all BBV wants whether they find obvious fraud or not, is to make sure that fraud can NOT happen in the first place to ensure we never have to ask questions like will we have to rehold the election.
Support them. It'd be un-nerdy not to.
And where would this evidence come from?
How many audit's do you think have occurred at this point? Here's a clue: the number's big and round.
Come on now people, black box voting is trying to address the inherent, proven issues with the current state of electronic voting. This has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the results of the election. This has EVERYTHING to do with technology. And yet a flame like this is moderated insightful.
Really, wtf. No wonder Bush got voted in again.
Ah well, I should be happy. I'm Canadian and the loonies soaring quite well today thanks to the results.
Not disputing the results, sure, that's entirely reasonable...once standard auditing has been performed and suggests there is no reason to dispute the results.
The problem I have is that you have NO IDEA whether the Diebold machines did their job do you?
I have no interest in disputing the results, at this time, either. HOWEVER, I most certainly retain the right to dispute the results should an audit suggest anything was out of line.
I most deffinately want to see the results of the audits. Then, and only then, will I form a solid opinion on whether these machines 'did their jobs' or not.
She initially made a lot more than $50,000.
She then got caught and nailed to the wall. Rightly so.
Any that are still and haven't blown up already are probably lemons anyways.
Bruce Wayne, AKA Batman, either way, is just a human being. He wasn't born anything other than that.
Superman was born Superman.
Everything else is semantic.
You're missing my point, these are all about deceptions they have to carry on in their lives to conceal things about their true identities.
Batman does not exist, Batman is a character that Bruce Wayne employs.
Superman however does indeed exist, and it is Clark Kent that is the fictional character that Superman employs.
Clark W. Kent was NOT the real Superman.
The real Superman was Clark W. Kent.
Clark W. Kent cannot die or be killed off as he does not, did not, and never will exist. Clark Kent was Superman's _costume_.
Bzzzt...wrong!
Stick another foot in your mouth would you?
At my office, who ever fucks up takes the blame, NOT the admin. If I want admin rights, and I end up introducing a virus that takes our network down, I'm f'd. Thus I take the rights I need to get my work done. But I am able to define what I need, not you. The only time an IT admin would get shit where I work is if a machine _they_ are responsible for goes down. For example, a server.
We actively train all our employees how to be safe computer users. We keep people informed. You'd be amazed what kinds of productivity you can gain when people are empowered, and supported in that empowerment.
That is because that's not an infinite loop.
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No, I will not.
And I will not hire you either, so don't bother applying.
IT nazi's have no place in a properly run business.
You're right you know, you're so right in fact that people can't stand to be around you. You're god almighty and nobody wants to bow down to you anymore. It's the attitude above all else.
An IT Admin's job is really to be the liason between technology needed to get work done, and the people that need to do that work. The people are key here, they are without a doubt more important than the technology. The day that all IT Admins understand this, and become advocates and facilitators for the people, things will be much better.
They are where I work because we've gone to great lengths to hire IT Admins that understand this. That is why you did not get the job. Someday the company that did give you a job will realize this as well.
I see where you're coming from, and that makes sense. I have to agree that I am also somewhat more comfortable riding on streets in urban settings...sort of. I've been hit 3 times in my life in urban settings, and I'm still alive. Actually, no major damage of any kind so I'm quite lucky. (Can't say so much about a couple of my bikes) I attribute this entirely to a couple of things: a) That the vehicles were moving relatively slowly and b) that I always saw the imminent collision in time to be prepared.
These wouldn't hold out in the country. Driving fast, and I wouldn't likely see it coming.
Anyways, my comfort level is currently just not riding bicycles around motorized vehicles at all. All it takes is one idiot to end your life, and I'm personally not willing to take that risk. North American travel is pretty much motor-vehicle centric unfortunately. (Mostly out of necessity)
I find it interesting actually that some of the safest urban environments to ride a bicycle in are actually some of the most densly populated. I'm quite certain I'd have no problem riding a bike around in urban centers in Japan for example.
I really do not need statistics to tell me that if I stay off the road, I will likely NOT be hit by a road travelling vehicle.
In other words, sure, it may be safer when travelling on a road, to stick to an actual lane, but it's all relative. Staying off the road is the safest, period.
This is why I am a cross-country mountain biker. Maybe twice a year do I end up having to ride on the road, and when I do, I'm NEVER actually on the road when there are any vehicles near. Even then, there is always a chance that some tool may careen off the road and into me on the shoulder. Not likely, but it has, and does happen.
So again, nice stats, but they don't exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy about riding on the road in any way.
Here's something to keep in mind though:
You can be right, and you can be dead right.
You really want to take the high and mighty road when your chance of winning if someone else doesn't agree is essentially zero?
I have know 5 people over my life that have died road biking. I'm not quite 30. I don't know as many people that have died in CARS for chrissakes.
If I HAVE to ride on the road, I ride on the shoulder. No, not the last 6 inches of pavement. I mean almost in the field kind of thing.
Whatever turns your crank, whatever you're comfortable with, but watch it OK? Chances are DAMNED good that you are going to get hit with an attitude like that. The cops aren't usually around to stop an accident before it happens, they're usually there to scrape you into a bucket afterwards. Sure, the guy that hits you will go to jail, but what good'll that do you at that point?
The volcano cam is not down perse, but it's been hit and miss all day. I'm currently looking at an image from 13:24:01 PDT this afternoon.
/. I wouldn't expect to have much luck for a while ;)
Now that the link is front and center on
Do you really need to stop ChatZilla physically?
Think of it this way, how do you handle passing of notes in class? By disallowing paper and pens to enter the room? Didn't think so.
I would think that your life might be easier if you weren't so worried about unnecessarily micromanaging every little detail about these workstations.
Another reason to consider this option: If you've got hackers in there, they are more likely to try to hack something that's been locked down, than something that is installed as expected.
Should have posted that first.
Your post I replied to originally certainly does not read this way even remotely, it reads like any effort at conservation would be a waste of time.
Even still, I must back up my argument again. What we need is less arguing that we can't conserve enough, and more ideas on what we CAN do to conserve energy. Every little bit helps.
BTW, I'm an Ontarian myself. I wish you had some hard data to back up your figures since they don't seem to be based in fact. Rather they seem based in personal perceptions and assumptions.
You don't see a 1/200th savings by replacing a SINGLE light bulb in each residence as worthwhile?
Yes, you're right. Unless we come up with the silver bullet that reduces our energy consumption by %100, it's obviously not worth doing.
Yeah, that's a great plan indeed.
Just incase you can't figure this out, I'm not suggesting that the light bulb idea is part of the solution, though it couldn't hurt. What I am saying is that the problem has EVERYTHING to do with attitudes like the parent posters.
Sorry, you wanted the plain-text version did you?
Here you go:
Good stuff ehh?
Which conveniently hid the fact that he doesn't have the skill to direct actors now, nor did he then.
No doubt, I have to second this.
I wasn't sure what to expect when I went to see Garden State, I was a little worried about Natalie's performance due to jaded perceptions from SW.
I was thoroughly surprised.
Great movie with great acting.
I will never hold any actors performance in the SW prequels against them ever again. It's your fault George, quit it already!
I know you're just trying to be funny, however this is just a GPS instrument that has moved on the lava dome itself. Mount St. Helens did not move a few inches north in a couple of days. Nor will it tomorrow, or likely in the next thousand years.
Heh, try being Canadian, we don't have this option. ;)
Typically, we all walk around thinking we're poor because there are very few bills in our wallets...one can only afford to put so many $20+ bills in our wallet. But then you stick your hand in your pocket and pull out a treasure chest worth of gold and silver colored coins and realize you're rich! Well, you can at least afford to buy lunch anyways
(Note for those who don't know about Canadian money: Standard Coinage is 1c, 5c, 10c, 25c, $1 and $2. Bills are $5, $10, $20, $50, $100...however there are something like 10x as many $20 bills out there as all the others combined. It is quite rare for us to have stacks of bills in our wallets anymore. There has actually been rumours going around that they want to make the 5 a coin as well...pretty sure that's bs though, that's really starting to not make sense.