Hey! Don't tell them that! Somebody has to keep driving the market to ensure there IS a midrange market for those that understand this, so keep it down would you?
What does the location of google's servers have to do with piggybacking bandwidth in the states? Google is located in California, why wouldn't their servers? Just because it's a service customized for canadians doesn't mean it has to be provided from in canada. It is the internet after all right?
FYI, Canada has some of the fattest pipes in the world crossing coast to coast. Try tracing something that is actually IN Canada too. Unless your ISP dumps you stateside, you're likely staying on canadian pipes the whole rt.
Ahh, so you've been to the future and have a release copy of Longhorn in your posession, and can make this statement because you've done extensive comparison between it and Linux ehh?
Dude, that was the WORST anti-ms troll I've seen in a LONG time around here, try being a little more subtle next time would you.
I believe you missed my point entirely. Stating that Java is as fast as C because an 8 year old game has been ported to it, and it runs fast on hardware that's 8 years newer than the original game would have been played on is NOT a valid comparison in any way.
I'm not suggesting that Java sucks unless it can run on a P 233, which is how I think you took my comment.
Why pose this question towards Open Source developers only?
Seriously, do all of the other developers out there already get enough credit? I'm pretty sure that for the most part, Open Source developers are already MUCH more visible than your average closed-source developer.
I'm certainly not attempting to detract from OS developers, but I really don't see the point in drawing a line here except to open up some sort of this camp is better than that camp can of worms.
Ah, yes, because Moore has stated so many times that Americans are stupid, that all of the world's problems are because of America and that he wishes more Americans would die in Iraq.
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He wasn't stating required use of an IDE to develop Java in, he was questioning the grandparent posters statement that Java 'is a dream to code with (provided you use a decent IDE)'
Let me ask you this, ignoring the movie for a moment.
Actually, lets pretend it doesn't even exist.
You voting for Bush? You like what he's done for your country over the last 4 years?
Now, lets say the movie exists again. What does that bring into the picture? Anything? Should it really change your mind in any way at all? You either were pro-Bush before, or not.
What I'm getting at is do you care so much because of Bush's reputation being tarnished? Or rather do you hate Moore for some reason?
Yes, you're right, the movie doesn't show all of the footage of all of the events that transpired during the making of the movie. Yes, you're right, the movie isn't 6 MONTHS LONG. Yes, you're right, it's a MOVIE.
And yes you're right, he didn't SHOW that part, but he did explicitly STATE it (as geekster already mentioned)
You're using the EXACT SAME propaganda tactics to try to discredit f/911 as you and others are charging Moore himself with using.
Glad someone else noticed that. All I could find in there as support for his assertions against facts f/911 are statistics, numbers based on conjecture, and lawyer double-speak.
The first point he addresses says it all really. Look at all the numbers he relies on stating, matter of factly, exactly how many people didn't vote, and exactly how those people that didn't vote would have voted. Holy christ. I read the whole article just to make sure, and sure enough he uses the same BS tactics everywhere throughout.
Don't get me wrong, f/911 is most certainly a piece of propaganda, but so is just about everything you see in the media today. It's all slanted, so take it all with a grain of salt.
Personally, I thank Michael Moore for making sure as many people as possible see a TOTALLY DIFFERENT SLANT for once.
All sides on this are full of shit. There are lies and deceit everywhere. What it comes down to is how the underlying truths add up. And for me, it without a doubt adds up to Bush has got to go, period.
Lets look at it this way, even if moore is totally full of shit and it's all lies. Who cares? Does it change the facts? Does the fact that a movie portraying Bush negatively exists PROVE that Bush is good and has done good for the US and for the world in general? Absolutely fucking not.
You like Bush? Fine, vote for him then. Just don't vote for him because you don't like some fat guy who you can't even vote for. (Hint People: Michael Moore is NOT running for election. This is NOT a race between Bush and Moore so quit treating it like it is)
That site (wilwheatonsucks) seems pretty freudian to me. Hardly proof that he does indeed suck in any way. Rather, I'm quite sure the author of this site _wishes_ that wilwheatonsucks;)
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This was making me think of the 4 states of knowledge:
1) Things we know we know.
2) Things we know we don't know.
3) Things we don't know we know.
4) Things we don't know we don't know.
This would fall under 4, my favourite category of all. And this is basically how I've always understood a priori.
Nobody is suggesting it isn't within his rights.
Everyone knows however that it's fucking ignorant and nobody likes it.
End result? Pissed off EX fans and lost customers.
Ever heard this saying?
You can be right, and you can be dead right.
Hey! Don't tell them that! Somebody has to keep driving the market to ensure there IS a midrange market for those that understand this, so keep it down would you?
What does the location of google's servers have to do with piggybacking bandwidth in the states? Google is located in California, why wouldn't their servers? Just because it's a service customized for canadians doesn't mean it has to be provided from in canada. It is the internet after all right?
FYI, Canada has some of the fattest pipes in the world crossing coast to coast. Try tracing something that is actually IN Canada too. Unless your ISP dumps you stateside, you're likely staying on canadian pipes the whole rt.
No shit, that's what I was thinking.
Oh, wow, a 1 GB (not even really) storage card. Whoopdy doo shit. I hope the submitter is the one that is wrong, otherwise sheesh.
If you truly believe this shit, then you REALLY need to get out into the real world.
It's a myth that has become VERY VERY easy to turn into a self fulfilling prophecy.
Aha! I've got it! I know who Michael really is!
Hi George, never get anything right the first time do you? Been re-writing, erm, I mean _finishing_ any good movies lately?
Nice chatting with you George, though I suppose this conversation won't have existed in another 10 minutes or so.
Ahh, so you've been to the future and have a release copy of Longhorn in your posession, and can make this statement because you've done extensive comparison between it and Linux ehh?
Dude, that was the WORST anti-ms troll I've seen in a LONG time around here, try being a little more subtle next time would you.
Hey! What are you doing cutting a hole in the side of that house?
Um, I locked myself out? Yeah, that's it.
Nah, Sly's done with Rocky for good.
He's got a wonderful new fresh idea he's working on though that's sure to be better than anything he's done before.
Now he's The Contender.
Good god what are they thinking?
I'd have rathered they DID stick with tacking on to the Rocky series, it'd be easier to ignore.
I believe you missed my point entirely. Stating that Java is as fast as C because an 8 year old game has been ported to it, and it runs fast on hardware that's 8 years newer than the original game would have been played on is NOT a valid comparison in any way.
I'm not suggesting that Java sucks unless it can run on a P 233, which is how I think you took my comment.
No, but you miss the point entirely.
He can still love his country while making the statements he has, which are essentially true if not entirely.
He wants to see his country become a better country by addressing these issues.
None of these statements mean that he hates his country, that is your conjecture. Please try to remember that.
Why pose this question towards Open Source developers only?
Seriously, do all of the other developers out there already get enough credit? I'm pretty sure that for the most part, Open Source developers are already MUCH more visible than your average closed-source developer.
I'm certainly not attempting to detract from OS developers, but I really don't see the point in drawing a line here except to open up some sort of this camp is better than that camp can of worms.
Ah, yes, because Moore has stated so many times that Americans are stupid, that all of the world's problems are because of America and that he wishes more Americans would die in Iraq.
Do you make everything up as you go or what?
What, it's not rocket science now is it?
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He wasn't stating required use of an IDE to develop Java in, he was questioning the grandparent posters statement that Java 'is a dream to code with (provided you use a decent IDE)'
How's about we try running it on a P 233 with 64MB ram and see how it performs.
That would be a fair comparison.
But yeah, wonderful point I wish would be conceeded before comparisons are made.
Not to mention the fact that I kinda doubt the port is being played on the same hardware that the original was played on at the time.
It had BETTER perform as good on todays hardware, and that I kinda doubt...though I haven't tried yet.
Let me ask you this, ignoring the movie for a moment.
Actually, lets pretend it doesn't even exist.
You voting for Bush? You like what he's done for your country over the last 4 years?
Now, lets say the movie exists again.
What does that bring into the picture? Anything? Should it really change your mind in any way at all? You either were pro-Bush before, or not.
What I'm getting at is do you care so much because of Bush's reputation being tarnished? Or rather do you hate Moore for some reason?
Yes, you're right, the movie doesn't show all of the footage of all of the events that transpired during the making of the movie. Yes, you're right, the movie isn't 6 MONTHS LONG. Yes, you're right, it's a MOVIE.
And yes you're right, he didn't SHOW that part, but he did explicitly STATE it (as geekster already mentioned)
You're using the EXACT SAME propaganda tactics to try to discredit f/911 as you and others are charging Moore himself with using.
Glad someone else noticed that. All I could find in there as support for his assertions against facts f/911 are statistics, numbers based on conjecture, and lawyer double-speak.
The first point he addresses says it all really. Look at all the numbers he relies on stating, matter of factly, exactly how many people didn't vote, and exactly how those people that didn't vote would have voted. Holy christ. I read the whole article just to make sure, and sure enough he uses the same BS tactics everywhere throughout.
Don't get me wrong, f/911 is most certainly a piece of propaganda, but so is just about everything you see in the media today. It's all slanted, so take it all with a grain of salt.
Personally, I thank Michael Moore for making sure as many people as possible see a TOTALLY DIFFERENT SLANT for once.
All sides on this are full of shit. There are lies and deceit everywhere. What it comes down to is how the underlying truths add up. And for me, it without a doubt adds up to Bush has got to go, period.
Lets look at it this way, even if moore is totally full of shit and it's all lies. Who cares? Does it change the facts? Does the fact that a movie portraying Bush negatively exists PROVE that Bush is good and has done good for the US and for the world in general? Absolutely fucking not.
You like Bush? Fine, vote for him then. Just don't vote for him because you don't like some fat guy who you can't even vote for. (Hint People: Michael Moore is NOT running for election. This is NOT a race between Bush and Moore so quit treating it like it is)
No, actually I do not see any irony in that other than the obvious irony that Moore was pointing out in the first place.
One cannot prove a statement false by simply changing the statement and re-targeting it.
Scary really.
Then go read up on his sources, they're all right there if you care to follow the link provided.
Liberal media ehh?
You'd better check again who owns what media corporations in the US my friend.
That site (wilwheatonsucks) seems pretty freudian to me. Hardly proof that he does indeed suck in any way. Rather, I'm quite sure the author of this site _wishes_ that wilwheatonsucks ;)