You missed the point. It's all integrated, and "easy to use". What you just listed are completely un-integrated, discrete projects. So, to quote jwz, "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing". Sure, I could spend a ton of time learning to do each of those things for myself, or I could just buy a box that already does it for me.
That said, the price is way too high, and I'm betting it's not quite as easy to use or configure as they think it is. However, if they made it truly easy to configure and use, and brought the price to more like $5000 (you're paying for software and customization here), then they might have something - I could certainly see the Sharper Image types digging this. Plus, it would probably have the effect of spurring guys from projects like the ones you listed to make their stuff easier to configure and use, and would also likely result in a FreePluto project... bwahahahaha...
One thing to keep in mind, though, is that one of the original arguments against Vorbis adoption was "But all the MP3 hardware out there uses a dedicated MP3 decoder chip, so they can't just 'upgrade the firmware' to support Vorbis", along with countless other arguments that deal with the fact that in any given project, 1 codec is easier to deal with than many.
Well, because we now have MP3, AAC, and WMA, all becoming popular, that means that instead of hardcoded support for 1 format, any company that's serious about making music software or hardware is probably going to want to support a plugin style architecture, which means that supporting a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc, format becomes much easier, so things like FLAC and Vorbis have one more barrier to entry removed from their paths.
Have they fixed the most serious bug from the 4.x line yet? This makes MySQL versions greater than 3.x utterly useless for many people.
I realize and reaffirm that it is wholly their right to license their software however they like, but would it really be so awful for them to make the client library LGPL?
Right, unlike our capitalist system of HMOs, and we all know that HMOs are about Choice, Choice, and more Choice, not to mention great service and care for clients. Thank god for Freedom!
At least it's smarter than trying to sell a license to every home user of Linux.
And not to mention being smarter than SCO paying Linux-using businesses to use products SCO doesn't even own. Yeaaah... great revenue generator, that one.
True, it's not free (as in beer), but it is Free (as in speech), and that is what is important. As for support, that depends on which product you're buying - the AS version always comes with support, the ES and WS versions have support as "optional", depending on whether you want to pay more or not. Sounds like a good deal to me...
This is only a "death" in as much as a phoenix dies and is reborn from its own ashes. The PDA isn't dying, it's evolving. Mind you, I'm a big nerd, but I see phone/PDA combos as a PDA that can act as a phone, not a phone that does PDA stuff, too. Yeah, eventually PDAs that don't have a cell phone will not be nearly as common as they are now, but they won't be "dead" for a long time.
But we can hardly blame the Economist, after all, proclaiming the Death of Technology "foo" is a great way to increase page views!;P
Understood completely, and agreed! I was more interested in quelling the tide of people coming up with "SEE?!? Democrats are teh suck!" when it's "SEE?!? Both parties CAN be total fucking bastards!" It was more about myth-debunking than your actual post per se.
One of my other current favorite myths to debunk is that the ACLU is "owned" by the Democrats. This is obviously bullshit. If the ACLU is good enough for Bob Fucking Barr, it's good enough for anyone concerned with civil liberties. I'd normally see myself as a natural political enemy to a guy like Barr, but I have to admire his honesty and adherence to his beliefs and rationale instead of lame party politics, etc. (Naturally the ACLU isn't perfect, they sometimes chase rather minor or silly issues, but we're a hell of a lot better off with them than without them, and they certainly don't "belong" to just one party. That's a rather insulting notion to the Republican, Libertarian, Green, and other party members that are members!)
True, the "Sonny Bono" act was renamed for him, but I believe the act was introduced by him, and at the very least, strongly backed by him. I wish I could get more solid background on this. As for the DMCA, however, he was a sponsor on it, he just kicked the bucket before it passed.
But Fritz DIDN'T give us this. Mr. Howard Coble, a Republican, sponsored the DMCA. And Sonny Bono, a Republican, enacted the (you'd never guess) Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act.
For further demonstration, observe the sponsors and voting record of the DMCA:
Sonny Bono - (no official page, sorry - a google search will reveal that he was also a Republican) - Republican
(Please excuse the Issues2000 links - I wanted to use 100% official pages, but not all of the sponsors of the DMCA are still in their offices.)
So, that puts the "score" at Democrats: 3, Republicans: 7
When it comes to voting, the Senate was 99-0 in favor of it, which speaks badly for both parties, though I must still point out that the Republicans had the majority at the time, thus further proving that again, they are no less culpable, if not more. I regret I cannot tell you what the House had to say about this bill, but I'd be willing to bet that the percentages of Democrats and Republicans in favor of this bill is about equal in the House, too.
Once again this proves that you must think for yourself rather than just believing rumor or stereotype as fact.
Aren't the sentences for themes crimes overblown as it is? Why don't they just declare the death penalty for all "hacking" crimes and get it over with? This way we at least don't have to spend money on pushing the legislation through.
Possibly. Perhaps I'm ignorant on the topic, but with auditing, shouldn't they put the vulnerability reports on hold for a short time, especially when there's so many in a row, and just do a sort of "service pack" upgrade?
Maybe there is no answer, I don't know. At least they get the patches out quickly.
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You missed the point. It's all integrated, and "easy to use". What you just listed are completely un-integrated, discrete projects. So, to quote jwz, "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing". Sure, I could spend a ton of time learning to do each of those things for myself, or I could just buy a box that already does it for me.
That said, the price is way too high, and I'm betting it's not quite as easy to use or configure as they think it is. However, if they made it truly easy to configure and use, and brought the price to more like $5000 (you're paying for software and customization here), then they might have something - I could certainly see the Sharper Image types digging this. Plus, it would probably have the effect of spurring guys from projects like the ones you listed to make their stuff easier to configure and use, and would also likely result in a FreePluto project... bwahahahaha...
One thing to keep in mind, though, is that one of the original arguments against Vorbis adoption was "But all the MP3 hardware out there uses a dedicated MP3 decoder chip, so they can't just 'upgrade the firmware' to support Vorbis", along with countless other arguments that deal with the fact that in any given project, 1 codec is easier to deal with than many.
Well, because we now have MP3, AAC, and WMA, all becoming popular, that means that instead of hardcoded support for 1 format, any company that's serious about making music software or hardware is probably going to want to support a plugin style architecture, which means that supporting a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc, format becomes much easier, so things like FLAC and Vorbis have one more barrier to entry removed from their paths.
replying to my own message:
Dear Moderators,
This is not flamebait. It's a sarcastically funny, but honest criticism. Learn to tell the difference.
Thanks,
- jck
Have they fixed the most serious bug from the 4.x line yet? This makes MySQL versions greater than 3.x utterly useless for many people.
;)
I realize and reaffirm that it is wholly their right to license their software however they like, but would it really be so awful for them to make the client library LGPL?
Ah, well... just another reason to use a better database instead.
hahaha... no, it was Godwin's law, only I was asleep at the fucking wheel. How embarassing. I'm starting to wish I could mod *myself* down.
WHOOOOP WHOOOOP WHOOOP!
Warning, Darwin's law triggered! Music cheapskates ("cheapskates", since "thieves" is technically incorrect) just lost the argument on MP3 trading!
Right, unlike our capitalist system of HMOs, and we all know that HMOs are about Choice, Choice, and more Choice, not to mention great service and care for clients. Thank god for Freedom!
Maybe they get the same answer as people get right now who want to use Linux instead of Windows at work:
:)
"Tough shit, pal."
If they are concerned about interoperability between work and home, OpenOffice runs great on Linux *and* Windows, y'know.
Don't make me link to The Amazing Gentoo-Linux-Zealot Translate-o-matic on yo' ass... wait, no... I just did. Whoops!
Agreed. This and the integer medthod used by 'less' (and now Fedora Core) are probably the only two versioning schemes that truly make sense.
Eh? What's wrong with that screenshot? Looks like a very nice start to me...
haha, great point, good joke. Welcome to my 'friends' list!
YES! SCO as Spaceballs! It's perfect! :)
And not to mention being smarter than SCO paying Linux-using businesses to use products SCO doesn't even own. Yeaaah... great revenue generator, that one.
True, it's not free (as in beer), but it is Free (as in speech), and that is what is important. As for support, that depends on which product you're buying - the AS version always comes with support, the ES and WS versions have support as "optional", depending on whether you want to pay more or not. Sounds like a good deal to me...
This is only a "death" in as much as a phoenix dies and is reborn from its own ashes. The PDA isn't dying, it's evolving. Mind you, I'm a big nerd, but I see phone/PDA combos as a PDA that can act as a phone, not a phone that does PDA stuff, too. Yeah, eventually PDAs that don't have a cell phone will not be nearly as common as they are now, but they won't be "dead" for a long time.
;P
But we can hardly blame the Economist, after all, proclaiming the Death of Technology "foo" is a great way to increase page views!
3 words: mod. parent. up.
Hell yeah, I'll second that!
Understood completely, and agreed! I was more interested in quelling the tide of people coming up with "SEE?!? Democrats are teh suck!" when it's "SEE?!? Both parties CAN be total fucking bastards!" It was more about myth-debunking than your actual post per se.
One of my other current favorite myths to debunk is that the ACLU is "owned" by the Democrats. This is obviously bullshit. If the ACLU is good enough for Bob Fucking Barr, it's good enough for anyone concerned with civil liberties. I'd normally see myself as a natural political enemy to a guy like Barr, but I have to admire his honesty and adherence to his beliefs and rationale instead of lame party politics, etc. (Naturally the ACLU isn't perfect, they sometimes chase rather minor or silly issues, but we're a hell of a lot better off with them than without them, and they certainly don't "belong" to just one party. That's a rather insulting notion to the Republican, Libertarian, Green, and other party members that are members!)
True, the "Sonny Bono" act was renamed for him, but I believe the act was introduced by him, and at the very least, strongly backed by him. I wish I could get more solid background on this. As for the DMCA, however, he was a sponsor on it, he just kicked the bucket before it passed.
:)
Thanks for the fact-check, though.
But Fritz DIDN'T give us this. Mr. Howard Coble, a Republican, sponsored the DMCA. And Sonny Bono, a Republican, enacted the (you'd never guess) Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act.
For further demonstration, observe the sponsors and voting record of the DMCA:
(source)
Sponsor: Howard Coble - http://www.house.gov/coble/ - Republican
Co-sponsors:
(Please excuse the Issues2000 links - I wanted to use 100% official pages, but not all of the sponsors of the DMCA are still in their offices.)
So, that puts the "score" at Democrats: 3, Republicans: 7
When it comes to voting, the Senate was 99-0 in favor of it, which speaks badly for both parties, though I must still point out that the Republicans had the majority at the time, thus further proving that again, they are no less culpable, if not more. I regret I cannot tell you what the House had to say about this bill, but I'd be willing to bet that the percentages of Democrats and Republicans in favor of this bill is about equal in the House, too.
Once again this proves that you must think for yourself rather than just believing rumor or stereotype as fact.
Aren't the sentences for themes crimes overblown as it is? Why don't they just declare the death penalty for all "hacking" crimes and get it over with? This way we at least don't have to spend money on pushing the legislation through.
Jonathan Schwartz? Is that you? ;)
Possibly. Perhaps I'm ignorant on the topic, but with auditing, shouldn't they put the vulnerability reports on hold for a short time, especially when there's so many in a row, and just do a sort of "service pack" upgrade?
Maybe there is no answer, I don't know. At least they get the patches out quickly.
RTFP: like I said, the "current score" of recent vulnerabilities of ssh vs lsh is 3 to 1. I was accounting for that vulnerability already. :P