I agree with (1), I believe Godel had a hand in that one.
With (2), the program can reduce the tedium of proving the original proof in some cases. That's what computers are good at and are better at than humans. Proving the program may well be much easier. I would think that's why the researchers in the article used computers in the first place. If you program in C++ you will have a problem, but a functional or logic language program is straight-forward to prove (PROLOG programs are essentially the execution of a proof).
With (3) you could show by running it on different hardware and software that the platforms did not affect the result by a huge probability. If you don't like the 'probability' bit, who says there isn't a human trait or gene that causes any human to get a proof wrong? Humans are imperfect too, but if enough of them agree, and they are qualified, then we agree that what they agree on is true. This is the same situation as the potentially flawed platforms problem.
And also then talks about own product that is very similar to competitors product, but with special proprietary bits that make everything work so much better. But won't give details...
Sheesh, talk about your sycophantic posts, Were you angling for a discount. Here are more a few more realistic things you can get:
- get undressed and possibly into a leather and chains (with whip) outfit. Substitute rubber or lingerie according to (his) taste. - get out the KY - get a couple of your/his friends around - get at it
If he gets presents like these, he's soon be much happier about turning older each year.
Ooh! Ooh! Me too... but I've included thr reply I got from the Beeb. Is he sending out a form letter? Did anyone else get this reply? It's unlikely he's doing a personal reply...
From: "NewsOnline" Subject: RE: Complaints
Dear Sir or Madam
Thanks for your e-mail.
I have noted the points you made - as well as the vigorous debate on Slashdot.org about this article.
Well, Stephen Evan's weekly "stateside" column is not a news story, but an analytical look at major events and business trends in the United States.
It is, of course, debatable whether MyDoom/Novarg Shimgapi was written just to bring down the SCO website, or whether the installation of spamming tools on numerous computers was an additional - or even the main - motive.
That was not the point of Stephen's article.
In his piece he wanted to draw the attention of BBC News Online's audience - many of whom are unlikely to know the ins and outs of the Open Source debate - to the rapid spread of Linux as a commercial application, SCO's attempts to cash in on this fact, and the deep anger that SCO has caused within the Linux community through its legal actions.
Stephen is not the first to draw the link between MyDoom and SCO's actions over Linux - plenty of others have done that before, including virus experts.
Regards,
Tim Weber Business Editor BBC News Interactive - www.bbc.co.uk/businessnews
-----Original Message----- To: NewsOnline Complaints Subject: Complaints
COMMENTS: The latent bigotry shown by your reporter in the article below is appalling. Carefully avoiding stating directly a position which is indefensible, he insinuates that the MyDoom virus is a product of the anger of Linux geeks (as a group) at SCO's behaviour. He doesn't consider the fact that viruses and worms are written by individuals or very small groups working alone, whose personality lends them to isolation, attention seeking, and latching on to the issues of the day to enhance their notoriety. Even if this individual or group of individuals were Linux zeolots out to get SCO, how can you draw the conclusion that the Linux community approves of their behaviour? Your reporter displays a lack of professionalism and reflects poorly on your news organisation.
which could be bad to both it's life and heat spilling into other components could lessen their life too
Which is a disaster for an $80 product which will be well and truly obsolete before it dies a natural death. Also, I think the FCC would have a hard time catching you and I can see them dragging you off to prison for it.
Man, you are old. But maybe you're not that old. Cabaret Voltaire (who I am sure were on Warp but I can't find them on the web site) are pretty old guys - they should be in their 50's now.
The sad fact is most people are pretty ignorant. They wouldn't have a clue about the heritage of their favourite music or how much their favourite band owes to some obscure artist from 20 or 30 years back.
I think for the bigger oligopolist labels this is true. But what Warp has done is what every small label should do - cut out the middleman and go straight to the consumer. It's the only way to overthrow the big labels that are causing all the problems. And it's what the big labels are afraid of.
Also I think that people new to a certain style of music or a certain label would probably have the opposite effect you're talking about - they listen to a classic older track as an introduction and end up buying later releases too.
Yeah I'm heartbroken that I can't download Brittany Spears from the service. Instead I can buy the really cool bands that I listened to as a young teenager. I can't help you if you haven't got taste. Maybe you should invest in some of the files offered on the service.
The point is that this is the way that songs should be sold on the internet - whole back catalogues offered by the labels themselves. Maybe one day we can have some API that will let companies offer many labels' music from one site, but right now the lowest-common-denominator approach taken by Apple and others will not promote competition and better deals for customers.
Well that's what I did. A full analysis projecting DB growth forward, etc, etc. The point is that the system had stopped working. The call center could not answer calls. We needed more disk space right then and there.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah right. If there's $2.1Bil worth of stock in it I'll even give them $1.
I agree with (1), I believe Godel had a hand in that one.
With (2), the program can reduce the tedium of proving the original proof in some cases. That's what computers are good at and are better at than humans. Proving the program may well be much easier. I would think that's why the researchers in the article used computers in the first place. If you program in C++ you will have a problem, but a functional or logic language program is straight-forward to prove (PROLOG programs are essentially the execution of a proof).
With (3) you could show by running it on different hardware and software that the platforms did not affect the result by a huge probability. If you don't like the 'probability' bit, who says there isn't a human trait or gene that causes any human to get a proof wrong? Humans are imperfect too, but if enough of them agree, and they are qualified, then we agree that what they agree on is true. This is the same situation as the potentially flawed platforms problem.
Your show sounds like a bunch of yobs going on about football...
British gits swearing and ranting about open source applies
"You pint fisted wank stain!"
That's gold...
If I download pr0n on my laptop, during the flight, do I join some sort of club?
Having exhausted the possibilities on earth, what choice did they have?
If you think that is good you should check out SCOX.
The contrast is impressive but can anyone tell me what the refresh rate is? I can't find it anywhere... makes me suspicous.
For certain (oil) companies, the Republican National Committee is the competitive advantage.
Really? I just though it was where you went for teen porn. Do you think I attended a Christian youth group for the singing and praying?
As are 100% of /. comments.
I prefer slashot.com. Check out the "related categories". They certainly understand their market.
Not true. They're always going off the rails. Maybe they can program the GPS to beep or something when they do.
It reads:
TODO:
- write security policy
- remove testuser/testpass backdoor
- refer javascript and url holes to developers
- prepare blanket denial of security problems for press
And also then talks about own product that is very similar to competitors product, but with special proprietary bits that make everything work so much better. But won't give details...
Sheesh, talk about your sycophantic posts, Were you angling for a discount. Here are more a few more realistic things you can get:
- get undressed and possibly into a leather and chains (with whip) outfit. Substitute rubber or lingerie according to (his) taste.
- get out the KY
- get a couple of your/his friends around
- get at it
If he gets presents like these, he's soon be much happier about turning older each year.
Ooh! Ooh! Me too... but I've included thr reply I got from the Beeb. Is he sending out a form letter? Did anyone else get this reply? It's unlikely he's doing a personal reply...
From: "NewsOnline"
Subject: RE: Complaints
Dear Sir or Madam
Thanks for your e-mail.
I have noted the points you made - as well as the vigorous debate on Slashdot.org about this article.
Well, Stephen Evan's weekly "stateside" column is not a news story, but an analytical look at major events and business trends in the United States.
It is, of course, debatable whether MyDoom/Novarg Shimgapi was written just to bring down the SCO website, or whether the installation of spamming tools on numerous computers was an additional - or even the main - motive.
That was not the point of Stephen's article.
In his piece he wanted to draw the attention of BBC News Online's audience - many of whom are unlikely to know the ins and outs of the Open Source debate - to the rapid spread of Linux as a commercial application, SCO's attempts to cash in on this fact, and the deep anger that SCO has caused within the Linux community through its legal actions.
Stephen is not the first to draw the link between MyDoom and SCO's actions over Linux - plenty of others have done that before, including virus experts.
Regards,
Tim Weber
Business Editor
BBC News Interactive - www.bbc.co.uk/businessnews
-----Original Message-----
To: NewsOnline Complaints
Subject: Complaints
COMMENTS:
The latent bigotry shown by your reporter in the article below is appalling. Carefully avoiding stating directly a position which is indefensible, he insinuates that the MyDoom virus is a product of the anger of Linux geeks (as a group) at SCO's behaviour. He doesn't consider the fact that viruses and worms are written by individuals or very small groups working alone, whose personality lends them to isolation, attention seeking, and latching on to the issues of the day to enhance their notoriety. Even if this individual or group of individuals were Linux zeolots out to get SCO, how can you draw the conclusion that the Linux community approves of their behaviour? Your reporter displays a lack of professionalism and reflects poorly on your news organisation.
which could be bad to both it's life and heat spilling into other components could lessen their life too
Which is a disaster for an $80 product which will be well and truly obsolete before it dies a natural death. Also, I think the FCC would have a hard time catching you and I can see them dragging you off to prison for it.
What will they talk about?
If it's like computers nowadays, it will be porn.
Man, you are old. But maybe you're not that old. Cabaret Voltaire (who I am sure were on Warp but I can't find them on the web site) are pretty old guys - they should be in their 50's now.
The sad fact is most people are pretty ignorant. They wouldn't have a clue about the heritage of their favourite music or how much their favourite band owes to some obscure artist from 20 or 30 years back.
I think for the bigger oligopolist labels this is true. But what Warp has done is what every small label should do - cut out the middleman and go straight to the consumer. It's the only way to overthrow the big labels that are causing all the problems. And it's what the big labels are afraid of.
Also I think that people new to a certain style of music or a certain label would probably have the opposite effect you're talking about - they listen to a classic older track as an introduction and end up buying later releases too.
Yeah I'm heartbroken that I can't download Brittany Spears from the service. Instead I can buy the really cool bands that I listened to as a young teenager. I can't help you if you haven't got taste. Maybe you should invest in some of the files offered on the service.
The point is that this is the way that songs should be sold on the internet - whole back catalogues offered by the labels themselves. Maybe one day we can have some API that will let companies offer many labels' music from one site, but right now the lowest-common-denominator approach taken by Apple and others will not promote competition and better deals for customers.
So, rather than hyping MUTE, can anyone provide numbers for the network size?
I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay for a massive improvement to transportation in my area than a few massive vehicles designed for killing.
You Sir, are un-American. Hang your head in shame.
Well that's what I did. A full analysis projecting DB growth forward, etc, etc. The point is that the system had stopped working. The call center could not answer calls. We needed more disk space right then and there.