You can be arrested for any reason. Non-arrestable offenses went away in 2006. Every crime, period, can put you in jail at the officer's discretion. So the hyperbole here isn't quite hyperbolic.
Man, I *really* liked your post up until you propagandized lies. I'm feeling charitable so instead of downmodding, I'm going to tell you why you are wrong. What Zimmerman did is NOT stand your ground. Stand your ground is a good law. It means if crazy fucking rednecks come and attack me and my 5 or so friends that I go camping with, my one friend who always carries a gun (concealed permit) can actually save our asses. Without it, we all have to run away, even in the middle of the woods. Possibly being separated, picked off one by one. The point of stand your ground is that, once cornered, you are allowed to save your own fucking life. What zimmerman did is not stand your ground, and even the florida republicans who passed it in florida have called bullshit on this. STand your ground is not "Drop yourself in a tiger cage, then when the tiger's attack you, you can shoot them in self defense." Stand your ground is not "Take your ground with you into a confict". You can't drive the ground you are standing around. You can't say "i'm not standing my ground, i'm chasing you, oh nyah nyah now i'm standing my ground and get to shoot you!" That's not the way it works. So get off your pedestal of bullshit, and stick to the good, relevant, TRUE things that you've said. You ruined a post that deserved a score of 5.
A drug test is a warrantless search too - cops can't just walk up to you on the street and demand your pee. The precedent was set, and every american that willingly pissed in a cup set the stage for this.
GDP per capita? One year, 10 people make $100. The next year, 1 person makes $1000 and 9 people make $0. GDP would be exactly the same per person in both situations; unemployment were not. I know which one *I* find more useful.
A) Wrong. It absolutely is. That's why it's in magazines on every magazine store. I don't know why you would think profanity is illegal with the 1st amendment the way it is. You are SEVERELY out of touch with reality.
B) That may be the case, but it may also be the case that the government cannot give preferential treatment (free/subsidized computer rental) to those who speak using certain words verus those who speak using other words, when all words constitute protected speech. (Which I understand may be hard for you to accept with your position on A being what it is.)
The cop doesn't need to rely on his memory, he can just plant drugs he took from someone else. You can bet your life that this happens to someone, somewhere, on a daily basis (one of many examples).
I wonder - would you accept 3 months in jail with breath mints being the only evidence? Is that close enough? (link)
They can also force a catheter up your penis without evidence. (Well, they can taser you if you don't let them.) Dontcha think that stings a bit? (link)
Or they could just charge you with conspiracy. You can be jailed for years with no evidence for conspiracy, because the sentence (at least in my state) is exactly the same as if you really possessed the drugs. So even if you've never possessed drugs, merely talking about it on the phone carries the same sentence as possessing the same amount. The added bonus is the prosecution now needs no evidence of actual drugs to convict! Open and shut case if you have a phone recording.
While the original poster was possibly engaging in hyperbole - I don't find it quite so objectionally out of realstic bounds. A case could pop up where that is what happened. It would probably require other factors to aggravate the situation (i.e. somebody schtupping a cop's wife), but it's not unimaginable to me.
An accusation without evidence is still enough for them to take your children away, and if you dare brandish a penknife when they do this, they will shoot you dead in front of your children to protect your children from that thing you don't have that someone smelled.
Uh no, Entropius. You are dead wrong. I gotta wonder where you're reading your news. Any random sample of comments will not have "pretty much everyone" agreeing with the police. I question what kind of agenda you have to try to paint the american people in a bright light than they deserve.
Hey Anonymous Coward - once they invent some kind of "wave" that travels "wirelessly" through the air and transmits information... Then I bet you'll really be embarrassed! Think about it - we could possibly receive information WITHOUT A WIRE. I'm going to call it.. the radio.
Why not just say that? Because that's not what I was talking about. You invented your own version of what the conversation really was. I was responding to the statement "I guess I'm old fashioned when I say that one should only kill another animal if it is wounded and will die (mercy killing)", which has nothing to do with gun control or guns, but is a generality about killing.
So next time you correct someone for not saying what you think they should say, maybe you should read the conversation more carefully and not presume it is about what you declare it is about. That is actually decided by the people having the conversation.
Every democratic city in the world? Huh? Felony is an american term about crimes bad enough that they are charged at the federal level instead of the state level. It has no "world" definition. You use the word "felony", but clearly you don't know what it means. And no. Almost all theft is charged at the misdemeanor level. Read your local police reports, but if you don't, for chrissakes don't make claims you have no fucking clue about. No fucking clue whatsoever.
Pretty ignorant comment. Most theft are misdemeanors. Read your local police reports. Don't even know why you bothered to comment when you obviously know so little about what constitutes a felony.
I'd love to see a black guy shoot another guy and then go to jail for a hate crime. As in, I really doubt that would ever happen. The fact of the matter is -- killing someone for certain reasons is now a lesser crime than killing someone for other reasons. I don't agree with that. But since the law is in the books, I'm glad Ravi fried.
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You can be arrested for any reason. Non-arrestable offenses went away in 2006. Every crime, period, can put you in jail at the officer's discretion. So the hyperbole here isn't quite hyperbolic.
Man, I *really* liked your post up until you propagandized lies. I'm feeling charitable so instead of downmodding, I'm going to tell you why you are wrong. What Zimmerman did is NOT stand your ground. Stand your ground is a good law. It means if crazy fucking rednecks come and attack me and my 5 or so friends that I go camping with, my one friend who always carries a gun (concealed permit) can actually save our asses. Without it, we all have to run away, even in the middle of the woods. Possibly being separated, picked off one by one. The point of stand your ground is that, once cornered, you are allowed to save your own fucking life. What zimmerman did is not stand your ground, and even the florida republicans who passed it in florida have called bullshit on this. STand your ground is not "Drop yourself in a tiger cage, then when the tiger's attack you, you can shoot them in self defense." Stand your ground is not "Take your ground with you into a confict". You can't drive the ground you are standing around. You can't say "i'm not standing my ground, i'm chasing you, oh nyah nyah now i'm standing my ground and get to shoot you!" That's not the way it works. So get off your pedestal of bullshit, and stick to the good, relevant, TRUE things that you've said. You ruined a post that deserved a score of 5.
Because it's somewhat sensitive information.
Did you feel this strong when drug testing was introduced?
A drug test is a warrantless search too - cops can't just walk up to you on the street and demand your pee. The precedent was set, and every american that willingly pissed in a cup set the stage for this.
GDP per capita? One year, 10 people make $100. The next year, 1 person makes $1000 and 9 people make $0. GDP would be exactly the same per person in both situations; unemployment were not. I know which one *I* find more useful.
It's better when they are half-dollars.
B) That may be the case, but it may also be the case that the government cannot give preferential treatment (free/subsidized computer rental) to those who speak using certain words verus those who speak using other words, when all words constitute protected speech. (Which I understand may be hard for you to accept with your position on A being what it is.)
C) YES
he tweeted somethign along the lines of "fuck is one of those fucking words that can be used fucking anywhere in a fucking sentence"
If it's government owned, it's public, and the 1st amendment applies. You defeated your own argument pretty effectively there.
Is position an illusion? No. Time is just position on an axis you can't understand.
I wonder - would you accept 3 months in jail with breath mints being the only evidence? Is that close enough? (link)
They can also force a catheter up your penis without evidence. (Well, they can taser you if you don't let them.) Dontcha think that stings a bit? (link)
Or they could just charge you with conspiracy. You can be jailed for years with no evidence for conspiracy, because the sentence (at least in my state) is exactly the same as if you really possessed the drugs. So even if you've never possessed drugs, merely talking about it on the phone carries the same sentence as possessing the same amount. The added bonus is the prosecution now needs no evidence of actual drugs to convict! Open and shut case if you have a phone recording.
While the original poster was possibly engaging in hyperbole - I don't find it quite so objectionally out of realstic bounds. A case could pop up where that is what happened. It would probably require other factors to aggravate the situation (i.e. somebody schtupping a cop's wife), but it's not unimaginable to me.
An accusation without evidence is still enough for them to take your children away, and if you dare brandish a penknife when they do this, they will shoot you dead in front of your children to protect your children from that thing you don't have that someone smelled.
Uh no, Entropius. You are dead wrong. I gotta wonder where you're reading your news. Any random sample of comments will not have "pretty much everyone" agreeing with the police. I question what kind of agenda you have to try to paint the american people in a bright light than they deserve.
There's no true scotsman left, either.
Sounds like it's you who hasn't played FPS games on a PC in awhile, says the Clint who just played hours of QuakeLive this week.
Or remove their subsidy if they can't price fairly. Or just do that anyway. Fuck the subsidy.
Hey Anonymous Coward - once they invent some kind of "wave" that travels "wirelessly" through the air and transmits information... Then I bet you'll really be embarrassed! Think about it - we could possibly receive information WITHOUT A WIRE. I'm going to call it.. the radio.
Yes, I do. Dwight Schruite logic.
votive? like candles? that's your example of an uncommon word? I was expecting a list of words i'd never heard of. Votive?!
So next time you correct someone for not saying what you think they should say, maybe you should read the conversation more carefully and not presume it is about what you declare it is about. That is actually decided by the people having the conversation.
Every democratic city in the world? Huh? Felony is an american term about crimes bad enough that they are charged at the federal level instead of the state level. It has no "world" definition. You use the word "felony", but clearly you don't know what it means. And no. Almost all theft is charged at the misdemeanor level. Read your local police reports, but if you don't, for chrissakes don't make claims you have no fucking clue about. No fucking clue whatsoever.
Pretty ignorant comment. Most theft are misdemeanors. Read your local police reports. Don't even know why you bothered to comment when you obviously know so little about what constitutes a felony.
I'd love to see a black guy shoot another guy and then go to jail for a hate crime. As in, I really doubt that would ever happen. The fact of the matter is -- killing someone for certain reasons is now a lesser crime than killing someone for other reasons. I don't agree with that. But since the law is in the books, I'm glad Ravi fried.
Hate crimes legislation equals "kill your own race and we'll punish you less". That being said, I don't disagree with what happened in this case.