Did this ever happen to Sony when they were demoing on the pre-final hardware - which they did? I don't seem to recall that.
As for people saying its ok for console games to crash - bullsh*t... if your console game crashes, you have no penis, and your probably listen to Yanni. As an industry, we have no use for you.;)
They say they are planning to open the hardware specs, and I can't really see how they could be planning to prevent hacking if this is what they end up doing.
And thats why this will never fly as a games console - as soon as its open, it will be modifiable, and then its a moving target - and console developers HATE that.
I myself will be shocked if this ever gets released in North America.
> I dont understand why apple gets game support and not linux
Thats an easy one.
a) there's enough of a critical mass that the average "AA" title will sell 50k units after its ported... maybe more.
b) stable, well defined target for porting
c) size of market - Macs are good home machines. They're everywhere. They're visable. People know what a Mac is. The average Linux box isn't rigged for mom & pop or little sister access. Joe Consumer still doesn't understand what Linux is, or what it means to him.
Sorry guys - this one isn't the mythical Linux/Games ticket yet, either.
I mean - who's going to publish games for it? Open Source coders... well... look at the quality of homegrown games on the PC. I'm not saying they're not capable - I just wouldn't buy a system based on the promise of, well... what I see.
Nokia probably won't stay with this for long. Every console manufacturer looses money on every unit sold - they make it back on license fees per game sold. If its an open platform, they want to turn a profit on the console? How will they compete with the Big Three?
I'm thinking that this just blew a largish hole in their revenue model. Time to go short on Rambus, perhaps? I was under the impression that revenue from patents were quite important to their buisness strategy.
> We see that even though Adam did violate the terms of employment, he had no intent to cause harm to the plaintiff,
How'd you get to THAT? I mean, the kid wiped out source and encrypted the rest before he bailed without notice, preventing them from developing a product they legally purchased from him.
How can that NOT be classified as malicious?
As dumb as IP rights are, people on this forum have to get their heads out of the sand and realize this kid very nearly screwed over a company who was perfectly within their rights to do what they did.
If that article is true and the kid thought he had the right to encrypt the stuff he left behind and take off the with source CD, he got what he deserved.
Thank you for visiting greenpeace.org. You are visiting from http://www.dubia.com which intends to use our site and organization for some cheap propaganda.
I think that would be great - the ability to access someone's TRUE position or opinion will cause more responsibility in what people claim to be the truth, won't it?
What steps can be taken to prevent this in the future? This is potentially a very dangerous precedent. Should Verisign be held accountable for any resulting damages that result from people being duped by this certificate?
Now thats an interesting question. Can we trust their certs from now on? I'll always be second guessing them now. (sigh)
... I wonder what it takes for a company to be approved as a developer. Anyone know the criteria? track record? publishing deal? a pulse?:)
I mean, it could be fun to start-up a small shop that did games for this... There are more Gameboys then bacteria (it would seem at times) on this planet.
Wondering why there hasn't been a "breakthrough" game lately? The publishing houses just play copy cat - there's 15 rips within 9 months of a new break out title.
Ah... the days before the industry was about money... The big houses (and be honest - they control the industry because they buy the shelf space) are afraid to allow their people to try new things - new ideas. It's most annoying for us. When senior guys get antsy - they're cut loose to "prototype" for a year - but then they're pulled back into the fold like clockwork. Grrr.
You don't need a fancy $600 card to play the average turn based game. Think about who buys the 3 page spread advertisements for hardware in the magazines, and the kind of games that usually play on them. Not turn based, thats for sure.
Also, I mean - the flashy screenshots with 4 stage multipass effects and lens flares get great press coverage... buzz words baby, buzz words.
I expect turn based stuff to be relegated to a niche market, as the accelerator vendors gather more and more influence with the industry.
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Conspiracy theory here... but I'm willing to bet that AOL agreed to this in return for MS backing off on the IM stuff.
Just a theory though. Time will tell.
Did this ever happen to Sony when they were demoing on the pre-final hardware - which they did? I don't seem to recall that.
As for people saying its ok for console games to crash - bullsh*t... if your console game crashes, you have no penis, and your probably listen to Yanni. As an industry, we have no use for you. ;)
And, that's a problem?
It is if the market size is rapidly decreasing. Like DeVito said in some movie that escapes me:
Or someting to that effect.Most writers are cocaine snorting media whores...
So tell us what you really think of them... :)
They say they are planning to open the hardware specs, and I can't really see how they could be planning to prevent hacking if this is what they end up doing.
And thats why this will never fly as a games console - as soon as its open, it will be modifiable, and then its a moving target - and console developers HATE that.
I myself will be shocked if this ever gets released in North America.
> In 37 hours, 23 minutes, and 8 seconds, I am gonna be... so fucking drunk
Yeah - I suppose thats a great way to do the finals. ;) Hope you're taking an abstarct art. ;) Interpretive dance, perhaps? :) :)
> I dont understand why apple gets game support and not linux
Thats an easy one.
a) there's enough of a critical mass that the average "AA" title will sell 50k units after its ported... maybe more.
b) stable, well defined target for porting
c) size of market - Macs are good home machines. They're everywhere. They're visable. People know what a Mac is. The average Linux box isn't rigged for mom & pop or little sister access. Joe Consumer still doesn't understand what Linux is, or what it means to him.
Sorry guys - this one isn't the mythical Linux/Games ticket yet, either.
I mean - who's going to publish games for it? Open Source coders... well... look at the quality of homegrown games on the PC. I'm not saying they're not capable - I just wouldn't buy a system based on the promise of, well... what I see.
Nokia probably won't stay with this for long. Every console manufacturer looses money on every unit sold - they make it back on license fees per game sold. If its an open platform, they want to turn a profit on the console? How will they compete with the Big Three?
Damn... markets are closed. Nice timing. ;)
I'm thinking that this just blew a largish hole in their revenue model. Time to go short on Rambus, perhaps? I was under the impression that revenue from patents were quite important to their buisness strategy.
the "dumbass antics" which you speak of but don't offer any proof could be no worse then some of the dumbass antics business pulls every day :)
Fair enough...
any job you can walk away from on a whim is probably one where your serving fries.
My god... I can't believe I'm reading this. You DO work in the tech industry, right? I mean.. two weeks notice is nice and all, but you can do it.
If you lock up in a bad contract, you have nobody to blame but yourself, as far as I'm concerned.
> alot of people they're evil.
Of course, their dumbass antics would have nothing to do with that, would they?
as a sysadmin I was *forced* to work a 17 hour day
So find another job...
> We see that even though Adam did violate the terms of employment, he had no intent to cause harm to the plaintiff,
How'd you get to THAT? I mean, the kid wiped out source and encrypted the rest before he bailed without notice, preventing them from developing a product they legally purchased from him.
How can that NOT be classified as malicious?
As dumb as IP rights are, people on this forum have to get their heads out of the sand and realize this kid very nearly screwed over a company who was perfectly within their rights to do what they did.
> Let this be a lesson to the rest of you: GPL it and this won't happen.
RIIIIGGHT. Corperate America is by no means thumbing the GPL and ripping off code....
If that article is true and the kid thought he had the right to encrypt the stuff he left behind and take off the with source CD, he got what he deserved.
Thank you for visiting greenpeace.org. You are visiting from http://www.dubia.com which intends to use our site and organization for some cheap propaganda.
I think that would be great - the ability to access someone's TRUE position or opinion will cause more responsibility in what people claim to be the truth, won't it?
... my ass Verisign is a "trusted authority."
What steps can be taken to prevent this in the future? This is potentially a very dangerous precedent. Should Verisign be held accountable for any resulting damages that result from people being duped by this certificate?
Now thats an interesting question. Can we trust their certs from now on? I'll always be second guessing them now. (sigh)
... I wonder what it takes for a company to be approved as a developer. Anyone know the criteria? track record? publishing deal? a pulse? :)
I mean, it could be fun to start-up a small shop that did games for this... There are more Gameboys then bacteria (it would seem at times) on this planet.
You keep telling yourself that, tiger.
We're nowhere near photorealistic - ask anyone who's solved complex local shading equations.
Besides - reality is a moving target. ;)
I think I've seen #3 - but it was a long time ago if I did. my spidy sense just tingled when I read that.
It was new. It was different.
Wondering why there hasn't been a "breakthrough" game lately? The publishing houses just play copy cat - there's 15 rips within 9 months of a new break out title.
Ah... the days before the industry was about money... The big houses (and be honest - they control the industry because they buy the shelf space) are afraid to allow their people to try new things - new ideas. It's most annoying for us. When senior guys get antsy - they're cut loose to "prototype" for a year - but then they're pulled back into the fold like clockwork. Grrr.
Erm, the Playstation1 has towards 80 or 90 million units sold.
I can see this - all sorts of great new content! Just pay $0.05 for each access, of course...
Hmmm...
"You might get eaten by a core ^h^h^h^h grue."
Heh.
You don't need a fancy $600 card to play the average turn based game. Think about who buys the 3 page spread advertisements for hardware in the magazines, and the kind of games that usually play on them. Not turn based, thats for sure.
Also, I mean - the flashy screenshots with 4 stage multipass effects and lens flares get great press coverage... buzz words baby, buzz words.
I expect turn based stuff to be relegated to a niche market, as the accelerator vendors gather more and more influence with the industry.
Yes, but the funniest thing I've heard today.