All I know is that I want nothing -- nothing -- to do with any of the red states.
Hold up just a second. You have to realize that not ALL of a particular state is 'red'. I'm in IL, which went to Kerry. However, I'm in the lower part of the state, St Clair county. Right across the river from here is St Louis, MO, which is part of a "red" state. However, look at the voter breakdown. St Louis was ALSO for Kerry. My particular region is pretty heavy in Democratic support.
What I'm getting at is, don't hate a whole state because its vote went to Bush. Remember that parts of those states voted the other way, but just weren't big enough to carry the state. If you want to hate the red states fine, as long as we get to annex St Louis.
NOTE: I really like St Louis and don't want them lumped in with the rest of MO.
Nowadays children have no fear of their parents, so they need some distractions.
Speak for yourself, my 5 yr old son is terrified of me when he gets into trouble. As soon as I take the "Daddy Tone" he immediately covers his ass with his hands and goes quiet. For the record I've never used a kung-fu backhand on him, just a swat on the ass will do. And its not really that I hurt him, its more of "daddy is mad at me". Most of the time, I just have to say, "That doesn't make be proud of you, I'm very disappointed" and he starts crying. To my son, having my approval means more to him than anything. Thats the way it was with my father, he never really hit me, just the thought of him not being proud of me was enough to make me ponder each action and consider, "how my father would view me if I do this", prevented me from doing many bad things in my life.
I realized all of this when I got after him one time and he looked at me about to cry and goes, "Daddy, you're not proud of me anymore?" It broke my heart to hear him say that, and it really sucked to be a father at that point. There's times that I wish I didn't have to get after him, but it is usually only to teach him right from wrong.
Which is funny, he says, "I believe that the American people, and not activist judges, should make this decision.". So it shouldn't be the judges decision, I do agree...
So whose "decision" should it be" The people's? At one time the majority of voters in this country supported slavery.
Yes, it should be the people's decision, where "the people" is defined as the individual's that are getting married. Not yours, not John and Jane Doe next door's, not the President's, not the court's or judge's, not "the people" as a collective whole. The individual. Those whom are homosexual have a right to choose their partners and whether they choose to marry them. I don't care what the majority says, the majority isn't the one's getting married to the same sex.
Yes, the majority once supported slavery, and that was wrong, since it failed one simple test: does this decision effect the rights of other human being's rights? Does the fact that two people of the same sex get married effect my life? Why should I or you, Mr. AC, really give two shits whether two other people are married, or if the person they love is the same sex? If it does, then WHY?! Why do you care at all? Does it get in the way of your daily life? People need to learn to get on with their own lives, and quit worrying about the lives of those whose decisions are not impacting the lives of anyone else aside from their own. In slavery, one individual's life is destroyed, and their rights and freedoms are stripped from them. In a gay marriage, whose freedoms and rights are stripped away? How does it impact anyone else's lives at all? Why do people believe they have the right to decide who is allowed to be married? (Before you start the slippery-slope argument, we are talking about two gay adults capable of making their own decisions, vote, and are not of the same family, same as the restrictions placed on hetero marriages as well) We have no right to tell a gay couple that they can't love each other the way we love our wives/husbands. Its their life, they have the right to make the choice of who to marry just as we hetero couples are.
I await the torrent of unrelated slippery-slope counter-arguments that are so common here. Its a black and white issue. The basis of sex is only an issue in marriage due to religious beliefs, which I define as those to want to force others to abide by their set of morals. Having a religion is fine, and certain morals are universal. Remember, our country was founded on the princible of every person's rights of Life, so no killing others, Liberty, stay the hell out of others business, and Pursuit of Happiness, see the last point, as long as your Pursuit doesn't step on other people's rights of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. Don't see anything there along the lines of "Pursuit of God's Will".
Don't get in other people's lives, its really simple. Honestly, I don't understand how people can really care enough to demand it be outlawed. Don't you have enough to do? Read a book, build a table, tune up your car, learn a new skill, write a song, paint your house, clean out your gutters, walk the dog. Some work to improve yourself or your home or car or something? I have too much crap to occupy me, tons of projects and things I'd like to learn to do, getting upset that Jim wants to marry John seems like a waste of time. Ok, so you've stopped their marriage, now what? What other cause will you devote yourself to, since you still have not fixed the flaw in your OWN life that makes you feel like you must fill the void with what other people are doing?
Maybe you wonder, if I don't care, they why am I speaking out about it? Because if the religious right succeed in this crusade, what next? What else are they going to try to strip away from us? How many things do we let them strip away before it DOES effect my life? How far will they go?
Some examples:
Kill someone, well that effects the rights of the person you killed, as they are now dead. Pedophiles? Destroying the lives of young children who are not mentally developed enough to make proper decisions and realize it is wrong, therefore trampling their rights. Two men getting married? Don't see anyone's rights getting trampled there....
Please note the fact that I said "pushing a Constitutional Amendment", meaning that he is in favor of a Federal ban on same-sex marriage, and will use his influence as President to persuade Congress to do so. I agree that it has a snowball's chance in Hell of getting passed, however his intention is to ban such marriages. He is therefore in favor of using his influence as Head of State to make his religious views the Law. The fact that he would even do so is my point of his contradiction, it isn't "leave it to the people to decide", its "I'm going to attempt to persuade Congress to make my beliefs Law". If he were serious about leaving it to the people then he would allow the marriages, then the people would choose whether or not to be married to the same sex. By making or supporting a law, or an Amendment, banning anything, you show that the people cannot decide on their own and declare it illegal.
Nader called the President a "messianic militarist" for saying that he has an active belief in God.
That's one of the most intolerant things I've ever read.
Where do you get that idea? Are you over simplifying it? Nader did not call Bush that simply for his active belief in god. If that were true, he would have said the same about Kerry. He likely said that because that is how Bush acts, pushing the ideals of his religion into Federal Policy and law. This is evident in Bush's push to ban gay marriages. Which is funny, he says, "I believe that the American people, and not activist judges, should make this decision.". So it shouldn't be the judges decision, I do agree, but Bush is saying it should be up to him, by pushing a Constitutional Amendment to enforce his religious view! THAT, kind sir, is why Nader, and myself, consider Bush messanic. Militarist, well I told my wife when Bush was elected, "we will be in active war before his 4 years are up." The man is, and was, blatent in his aggression. I regretfully cannot produce the source from the 2000 election that made me feel this way, as I've long forgotten it (damn bad memory), however the impression I felt from his campaign then was that he was a name-calling, aggressive bully. He's proven me right on that point. We are in active war. Is this is justified, or the Right Thing for us to be engaged in, is up for debate, but the point remains, regardless of the attacks on 09/11/01, he would have picked a fight with SOMEONE by now. And we are at war. Therefore I feel he is a militarist. And obviously Nader thinks so too.
Disclaimer: I do not plan to vote for Nader this election. I do respect the man though. I will defend his words, as they may be intolerant if you see it that way, but NOT for the reason you gave. I'm usually passive and I don't usually get into these political discussions, but letting that comment stand as is leaves the impression that Nader hates those with an active belief in god.
I can't believe all of the responses. I can understand all of the caution, taking pics and labelling and all, but seriously, taking laptops apart isn't hard. I've personally taken my Thinkpad apart about 25 times now, sometimes just for the hell of it, to learn how it was put together, other times to put in new CPU, the several times after that looking for pins to set the multiplier. I've put in a new HDD on it too, on that laptop though the HDD was in an easily accessable tray that just slid out.
BUT, the biggest advice one can give is just to simply take it apart. Don't be afraid, just be gentle, and start removing. You'll figure it out.
Once upon a time (last year) I did repair for a teacher in college's Gateway laptop (I hate those damn things), he broke the damn surface mount for the AC connector, first time just broke the terminal pole connecting it to the board, after that he managed to break THE ENTIRE PLASTIC HOUSING. I repaired it several times, eventually I had to buy a cheap AC connector (couldn't find one that would fit) and cut the plastic off of, and used a flat solder tip to melt to the old housing and encase the replacement terminal pole that I'd shaped from some copper with a dremel. Did I ever do anything like that before? Hell no, just tried it and did it. Thats the only way to learn it.
that said, I have a bit of a problem, when I buy something the first thing I do it take it apart and put it back together. When something DOES go wrong then I know my equipment inside and out. Just go for it man!
I don't know why it isn't working. This may be a stupid question, but are you sure the SecondaryLogon service is running?
Yep. I was thinking that maybe runas was completely broken for a second, so I tried running a cmd.exe as administrator, and that worked fine. Unfortunately, I'm a *nix guy and I don't know how to change directory permissions from the cmd shell in windows.
The user is really named Admin.
Thats odd, its not admin on my machine. I'd actually tried the other guys exact command line with the user as admin and it said that user doesn't exist
Did you try SUD/SU? I always use that instead of RunAs anymore.
I may do so, but honestly I don't care enough to do it. I so very rarely use that feature anymore, I was just irritated that runas didn't work. The original post I replied to:
Win2k and up have "runas" which is essentially the same as su/sudo.
I was pointing out that runas is NOTHING like su, it doesn't work for crap as its advertised. su works. runas doesn't. su is a standard on all *nix systems and it always works the same. I can always count on its behaviour.
I've just always had to deal with this kind of crap, from windows junkies. Trust me, I do begrudgingly use Windows for some software, because I have to, but I get REALLY TIRED of hearing the crap of "but things just WORK in windows, no modifying of config files, install xyz lib", etc, but at the same time some very simple things suck so badly in windows. To reverse the argument, I shouldn't HAVE to download some extra software to make something fscking simple like run an explorer window as admin work right.
Sorry I'm so badly off-topic now, I think its time to drop this.
I just tried "runas/u:Admin explorer". It promted me for a password, and then created a new explorer process running as the user Admin.....You could also start a command prompt and run explorer from there.
You have a user named Admin or did you mean the Administrator? Here's what happens when I run the exact same thing you put here (except as Administrator) from a cmd window:
C:\>runas/u:Administrator explorer
Enter password for Administrator:
Attempting to start "explorer" as user "Administrator"...
C:\>
NOTHING. Thats what happens. Not a damn thing appeared.
It worked from xpsp1 and 2ksp3.
This is win2k SP4.
runas is crap. Doesn't even compare to su, which works identically across the 4 different *nix OS's that I admin. Even if runas does work for you, it still doesn't work here. Which I found is typical in windows, such as vbs. The same damn code and scripts don't run the same way on different machines, even though they have the same exact versions of the OS and VBS/WSH
I hate runas, its nothing like su or sudo. Quick rant here, oracle installed with permissions so that only Admin could access the dir. I couldn't change it. Tried to do as I would in KDE and do:
runas/user:Administrator explorer.exe
to pop open an Admin explorer shell to change the permissions on the dir. Just doesn't work. Command ran and nothing happened. In KDE its just a simple
su root -c konqueror
or for me
sudo konqueror
or even ALT+F2, konqueror, "run as different user: root" and enter the password. Had to close everything I was working on (this is my work computer with ssh sessions, code files, and RDP sessions open), log out and log back in as Admin just to simply add my user to the list of allowed users. User-Friendly my ass
I finally got the apps to run on Linux without jinitiator.
I fired up konqueror, with a sun 1.4 jvm, changed the browser identification to MAC, and the apps launched
Interesting.. This doesn't appear to work for Oracle Forms apps though, at work we develop Forms apps, and I just tried what you said above, the app doesn't load up though. Does this only work with this Discoverer app?
And if you get a rogue app' that hogs all your cpu how do you get rid of it?
Umm, kill it? kill -9 works wonders, or in KDE, ctrl+esc to bring up the process list, highlight the task, and hit "Kill". I must be missing something in this "what if" in the parent.....
1. Have applications been consolidated into an Applications or Programs folder, or do I have to hunt for them scattered all over the place?
I'm not really sure what the hell you mean here. Binaries are in the usual places. The K-Menu contains launcher icons in a similar fashion to the Windows Start menu
2. Can I make aliases, shortcuts or their equivalents by right clicking or modifier key dragging the original?
Drag a file icon somewhere, release. A menu pops up under the cursor with three choices, copy, move, or link (as in symlink, or shortcut in your terms)
3. Do applications have a unique icon identifying the executable, so I know what to double-click to launch the program, or what to make the alias from?
Eh? What? Either you need to explain this one a bit more or at least just look at a screenshot. App launchers have uniquely definable icons. You can change the icon by right click, Properties, click on the icon button, and choose the replacement for that file/App launcher. What I'm assuming you mean is how win32 exe's have an embedded icon in the executable itself, which IMO is ass because later down the line, that icon looks HORRIBLE in comparison to the rest of your new fresh XP icons. The icons for Red Alert and HexWorkshop look like ass on my XP desktop in comparison to the other icons.
4. Can I install an application by dragging an icon of the application to the Applications or Programs folder, or by double-clicking an installer icon that I can download as a single file from a website?
No. This has nothing to do with KDE. It has a package manager/installer, though, so you can install packages made for your distro pretty easily, such as RPM or slackware packages.
5. Can I add and remove items from the start menu (or whatever KDE calls it) by dragging and dropping to and from the menus? (A dialog box would be an acceptable alternative.)
6. Can I add a directory to the start menu and have its contents displayed heirarchically when I click on it from the start menu?
No. Personally I'm glad it doesn't, maybe some people like that and that would be a nice feature. But the menu is customized by right clicking on the menu icon (the big K), and selecting "Customize Menu".
7. Can I use a file browser aka Windows Explorer or the Mac OS X Finder instead of a stupid web browser window to find files on my computer?
What? "stupid web browser window"? What the hell do you mean? The file manager is just like Windows Explorer in that it is simply a container app, that can either display files or html or text or whatever. Just like in explorer I can enter a web address in the bar and it displays that page.
8. Are home directories put in a Users or Accounts folder off the root so that I can find them easily?
Have you ever even USED linux? I'm not even going to answer this. This has to be a troll. No, I will answer it, in linux home directories are located in/home off the root directory.
9. Can I find Windows networked computers by double-clicking a Network neighborhood icon or its equivalent?
Yes KDE has a LAN browser
10. Can I set up sharing on my computer, define workgroups, etc. using a configuration tool like Mac OS X's Network and Sharing preferences pane and the Directory Access utility?
Yes. The tools are there. I'm tired of doing this. You haven't even looked at a linux desktop before, so you are either trolling or, err no you are trolling. If you put any effort forth I would be happy to answer these questions. But you haven't, and I've already wasted enough time responding to this.
Just a note. After seeing your above post, I read that article. It angered me enough to write a letter in response to an editor there, who apparently forwarded it to the author, Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. (I couldn't locate the author's email easily, so I sent it to one that I could find.)
Well now I'm engaging in an email point-counterpoint with this guy. He says he apparently has been reading and posting to/. for quite some time. So maybe he could please stand up here? That is, if this post doesn't get modded to oblivion by Mr. Vaughan-Nichols, since that is how I took the following from the email exchange:
I'll be sure to look for your posts the next time I moderate, since you clearly know nothing about me or my work
I'm not sure how to take that, sounds almost like a threat to me. I wasn't trying to shame the guy here, but I'm not sure how else to put that. Honestly, I'd like for this gentleman to show himself here with his "many years" old UID to post to us, to explain his usage of the post the way he did.
Thought it was either me and my picky taste or Australian beer tasted like shite.
I'm glad to hear not all the beer tastes like that, you guys down under should sue those bastards for damaging the Australian beer instustries image, much like SCO is to Novell (see I did manage to stay on topic;)
And man am I trashed right now. Only good American beer I'll vouch for here is MGD. Don't bother whis that otehr shite. I'm totally trashed on it right now. Ok I'm going to stop before this gets even worse and I start sluring more words
Ok........
Lets see, I run Slackware, so most of these listed here don't apply.....ok now, remote exploits where I don't have to do a DAMN THING to get attacked and have my computer rebooting.......still looking.....still looking......damn. I was hoping I'd find a remote root exploit in this list, and one where I have to reboot the whole damn computer and interrupt my work like I do on my Win2k workstation here for work....nope.
Honestly, most FUD against linux just bounces off of me, I don't care, but you know, after reading your comments and seeing you repeatedly saying, "Read my sig, Linux is insecure too", its REALLY pissing me off. I admin a collection of Win2k, Win2k3, WinNT4, HPUX, AIX, Linux, and Solaris boxes here at work. For several different clients. And which ones REALLY piss me off with the patching? Thats right, the windows ones. Ask customer to take machine offline (in terms of "out of production"), check all of the errata to make sure this patch won't break the apps, apply, start whole process from scratch because NONE of our customers has the exact same environment setup. Some of them, the NT4 ones, I CAN'T apply the RPC patch, it will break the apps, and MS has stated to us, DO NOT apply this patch. Great. Or a VPN workstation that we can't patch, otherwise it will break the VPN software that we HAVE to use to connect to one of our clients.
Now, guess which boxes I DON'T worry about patching? Yep, the RH AS Linux servers. Run up2date, wait a few minutes, oh look at that, not even a reboot OR even taking the box out of production required! The site you keep boasting about is nothing save a collection of bugs. Thats it. Local attacks, if anything. This isn't 'shocking'. Software has bugs. But sane coding practices keeps it down to a minimum. I really don't remember the the last time my Linux machine was exploited. Oh, I know why, because it NEVER WAS. Hell I had this Win2k workstation for less than a day, and WHILE I WAS PATCHING IT, it was exploited by blaster.
People ask me if I hate Windows, and why. I say I don't hate it, it just pisses me off sometimes, because I KNOW an OS can be a hell of a lot nicer than it is. MS really just makes horrible software, I have not found ONE peice of software by them that I haven't found a better competetor to. And its sad, it doesn't have to be this way. If they are going to be on every system in the world, causing people to HAVE to use it, they really could make it a bit better to use. I don't mind getting screwed, as long as they drug me up first. I can ignore the monopoly, just make the software decent, dammit! Having a monopoly doesn't really bother me, its just that the monopoly is illogical. They didn't get there by being the best, most secure, easiest to use, etc. And I hate them every day for it.
And no, its not just MS, I hate Oracle on a daily basis too:).
The problem with your analogy is, if you create a separate kernel module, or other portion of code, and you consequently release it as GPL, then you cannot revoke the GPL on that code. The releases that you put it in as GPL will forever be GPL. However, you later decide you no longer want it to be GPL, and you quit working on it, and make all further releases under some other license. Now, you are COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR RIGHT to do this. You are the copyright holder, you wrote the code in question. You can take your code an adapt it and merge it into SomeProprietaryUnix's kernel, and release it under any license you wish. But the code you initially made GPL and had distributed as GPL, will always remain GPL. Someone else can then work on it.
I really hate it when people don't understand copyright at all and make statements like this. As an artist, if I create a work such as a painting, and I then sell it to SomeRichCollector, I am in no way forbidden from painting another and giving it to my grandmother, or teaching some college students exactly how to recreate it. I can do whatever the hell I want with my art. Since source code also falls under copyright, the same applies to GPL source code. You are releasing it under a copyright that gives certain permissions for others to copy it. You are NOT giving away your copyright. You are simply making a release that carries no restrictions, and you cannot retract your release, same as I cannot later force SomeRichCollector to give me back my painting. I released it to him in that instance.
But the point here is, you never give up your right to the code in question, it is your creation for the duration of the copywrite period, and you can license it however you wish and as many times as you wish, with the exceptions of fair use.
This whole case is based upon a contract between IBM and SCO, where SCO claims that IBM, under contract to AT&T, agreed that any code they created and released with the SysV code be kept locked up. This is a derived work, and is somewhat fair, since it would be a Bad Thing for IBM to release their code with the SysV code under any other license. What isn't clear here is what a derived work is. I have no question that the RCU code as released with AIX falls under that contract, and must remain a 'secret'. However, what isn't clear is whether the code by itself is a derived work. Personally I don't feel that it should be, it is a component, a 'part of a whole', that when released in conjunction with AIX is a derived work since it is adding to the SysV code to create AIX, however if said code is reworked without using any portions of SysV, which would likely have been required in order to interact with the SysV kernel, as in to work with the Linux kernel, now it is 'pure' code that IBM has written, it has nothing to do with the SysV code. That is one issue that the courts will have to decide.
I have made ever attempt to spell check this post. But it would be very nice if the slashcode were changed to GIVE ME A BIGGER BOX TO WRITE IN!!!
Ok, WHOSE archives am supposed to check out? I didn't get any hits on Google, and Ati's site is a pain to navigate. Can you provide a bit more info here?
As a developer, the tester should use the program as intended, and throw in a few curves there. That was what the writer was referring to. I'd probably fire you if you came to me and said, "Yea, I finished testing that beta. It sucks. I rm'd the executable and now it doesn't work". That isn't beta testing, moron. Testing is, "hmmm, let's enter some invalid data here, and see how the parser handles it" or "Let's just close this dialog without completing it". The point is to look for normal, unintended use where the application doesn't handle it. It isn't bias in this article. That's beta testing. Nice troll.
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Xerox essentially gave it to apple, or more like the idea. I don't remember the specifics of the deal, but Xerox owed Apple and Apple wanted a look at some of their tech. However, the whole desktop concept came from Apple, from the info I've read.
my WinXP desktop operate like my Kde desktop. Like many, I have a nice machine, good for games, so I do dual boot. Most of the time I'm not really feeling like rebooting, so I haven't rebooted in 2 weeks, but when I do, I've tried to make WinXP like my Linux desktop. I have kde set up so that I can be productive, and I have access to all sorts of info with out much effort.
Short of posting a screenshot, I have my panel at the bottom center, not fully expanded like OS X, and at "Huge". Apps can overlap it, and if it slam the cursor to the bottom edge, the panel reappears. There I have my Konsole, Konqueror Web, Konq FileMan, Kmail, and show desktop buttons. Then, I have my pager, my CPU/Mem load applet, Logout/Lock, then systray: klipper, kmix, KSim(Ethernet/Temp/Mem monitor), and Knotes, for writing little post-its. Finally my clock. All big and easy to access with one click. At the top, I have my Taskbar, all running apps where I can minimize them. In the top right corner I have the main window for KSim, set to be always on top. Now, I've TRIED to make XP like this desktop, and its not possible. The apps don't exist, or they operate very different from the linux equivs and don't have the options that the Kde apps do. I checked out MS's little virtual desktop powertoy, and when it doesn't cause the machine to lock, it still makes it more of a pain in the ass or harder to change desktops than the Kde pager. I'm stuck with the Start menu in the corner (oooh I can move to to some OTHER corner!), I can't make the Quick Launch icons any bigger without making the whole bar bigger, I can't separate the tasklist from the main bar, there is no CPU/Mem monitor that embeds visually in the bar, and I can't find a Knotes like app whose UI is as good as KNotes. I could go on, but I don't feel like wasting the time. In short, Linux may have some of the UI concepts from Windows, but its been enhanced past the XP UI. Besides, who the fuck said MS came up with the "WIMP" UI anyway? They copied it from Apple to begin with.
1.)In house user mode code is not affected by kernel changes.
2.)The API is stable during a release, i.e. 2.2.x API is the same throughout, while 2.4.x has a different API from 2.2, but it is consistant throughout that series.
3.)This would only be necessary if they keep upgrading to the latest and greatest kernel, which shouldn't happen frequently. They can stay on one kernel series and not have the API change on them, and yes, security patches DO come out for the older kernels, 2.2 is still maintained, and I'm not sure but I think 2.0 is too.
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All I know is that I want nothing -- nothing -- to do with any of the red states.
Hold up just a second. You have to realize that not ALL of a particular state is 'red'. I'm in IL, which went to Kerry. However, I'm in the lower part of the state, St Clair county. Right across the river from here is St Louis, MO, which is part of a "red" state. However, look at the voter breakdown. St Louis was ALSO for Kerry. My particular region is pretty heavy in Democratic support.
What I'm getting at is, don't hate a whole state because its vote went to Bush. Remember that parts of those states voted the other way, but just weren't big enough to carry the state. If you want to hate the red states fine, as long as we get to annex St Louis.
NOTE: I really like St Louis and don't want them lumped in with the rest of MO.
Nowadays children have no fear of their parents, so they need some distractions.
Speak for yourself, my 5 yr old son is terrified of me when he gets into trouble. As soon as I take the "Daddy Tone" he immediately covers his ass with his hands and goes quiet. For the record I've never used a kung-fu backhand on him, just a swat on the ass will do. And its not really that I hurt him, its more of "daddy is mad at me". Most of the time, I just have to say, "That doesn't make be proud of you, I'm very disappointed" and he starts crying. To my son, having my approval means more to him than anything. Thats the way it was with my father, he never really hit me, just the thought of him not being proud of me was enough to make me ponder each action and consider, "how my father would view me if I do this", prevented me from doing many bad things in my life.
I realized all of this when I got after him one time and he looked at me about to cry and goes, "Daddy, you're not proud of me anymore?" It broke my heart to hear him say that, and it really sucked to be a father at that point. There's times that I wish I didn't have to get after him, but it is usually only to teach him right from wrong.
Which is funny, he says, "I believe that the American people, and not activist judges, should make this decision.". So it shouldn't be the judges decision, I do agree...
So whose "decision" should it be" The people's? At one time the majority of voters in this country supported slavery.
Yes, it should be the people's decision, where "the people" is defined as the individual's that are getting married. Not yours, not John and Jane Doe next door's, not the President's, not the court's or judge's, not "the people" as a collective whole. The individual. Those whom are homosexual have a right to choose their partners and whether they choose to marry them. I don't care what the majority says, the majority isn't the one's getting married to the same sex.
Yes, the majority once supported slavery, and that was wrong, since it failed one simple test: does this decision effect the rights of other human being's rights? Does the fact that two people of the same sex get married effect my life? Why should I or you, Mr. AC, really give two shits whether two other people are married, or if the person they love is the same sex? If it does, then WHY?! Why do you care at all? Does it get in the way of your daily life? People need to learn to get on with their own lives, and quit worrying about the lives of those whose decisions are not impacting the lives of anyone else aside from their own. In slavery, one individual's life is destroyed, and their rights and freedoms are stripped from them. In a gay marriage, whose freedoms and rights are stripped away? How does it impact anyone else's lives at all? Why do people believe they have the right to decide who is allowed to be married? (Before you start the slippery-slope argument, we are talking about two gay adults capable of making their own decisions, vote, and are not of the same family, same as the restrictions placed on hetero marriages as well) We have no right to tell a gay couple that they can't love each other the way we love our wives/husbands. Its their life, they have the right to make the choice of who to marry just as we hetero couples are.
I await the torrent of unrelated slippery-slope counter-arguments that are so common here. Its a black and white issue. The basis of sex is only an issue in marriage due to religious beliefs, which I define as those to want to force others to abide by their set of morals. Having a religion is fine, and certain morals are universal. Remember, our country was founded on the princible of every person's rights of Life, so no killing others, Liberty, stay the hell out of others business, and Pursuit of Happiness, see the last point, as long as your Pursuit doesn't step on other people's rights of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. Don't see anything there along the lines of "Pursuit of God's Will".
Don't get in other people's lives, its really simple. Honestly, I don't understand how people can really care enough to demand it be outlawed. Don't you have enough to do? Read a book, build a table, tune up your car, learn a new skill, write a song, paint your house, clean out your gutters, walk the dog. Some work to improve yourself or your home or car or something? I have too much crap to occupy me, tons of projects and things I'd like to learn to do, getting upset that Jim wants to marry John seems like a waste of time. Ok, so you've stopped their marriage, now what? What other cause will you devote yourself to, since you still have not fixed the flaw in your OWN life that makes you feel like you must fill the void with what other people are doing?
Maybe you wonder, if I don't care, they why am I speaking out about it? Because if the religious right succeed in this crusade, what next? What else are they going to try to strip away from us? How many things do we let them strip away before it DOES effect my life? How far will they go?
Some examples:
Kill someone, well that effects the rights of the person you killed, as they are now dead. Pedophiles? Destroying the lives of young children who are not mentally developed enough to make proper decisions and realize it is wrong, therefore trampling their rights. Two men getting married? Don't see anyone's rights getting trampled there....
Please note the fact that I said "pushing a Constitutional Amendment", meaning that he is in favor of a Federal ban on same-sex marriage, and will use his influence as President to persuade Congress to do so. I agree that it has a snowball's chance in Hell of getting passed, however his intention is to ban such marriages. He is therefore in favor of using his influence as Head of State to make his religious views the Law. The fact that he would even do so is my point of his contradiction, it isn't "leave it to the people to decide", its "I'm going to attempt to persuade Congress to make my beliefs Law". If he were serious about leaving it to the people then he would allow the marriages, then the people would choose whether or not to be married to the same sex. By making or supporting a law, or an Amendment, banning anything, you show that the people cannot decide on their own and declare it illegal.
Nader called the President a "messianic militarist" for saying that he has an active belief in God.
That's one of the most intolerant things I've ever read.
Where do you get that idea? Are you over simplifying it? Nader did not call Bush that simply for his active belief in god. If that were true, he would have said the same about Kerry. He likely said that because that is how Bush acts, pushing the ideals of his religion into Federal Policy and law. This is evident in Bush's push to ban gay marriages. Which is funny, he says, "I believe that the American people, and not activist judges, should make this decision.". So it shouldn't be the judges decision, I do agree, but Bush is saying it should be up to him, by pushing a Constitutional Amendment to enforce his religious view! THAT, kind sir, is why Nader, and myself, consider Bush messanic. Militarist, well I told my wife when Bush was elected, "we will be in active war before his 4 years are up." The man is, and was, blatent in his aggression. I regretfully cannot produce the source from the 2000 election that made me feel this way, as I've long forgotten it (damn bad memory), however the impression I felt from his campaign then was that he was a name-calling, aggressive bully. He's proven me right on that point. We are in active war. Is this is justified, or the Right Thing for us to be engaged in, is up for debate, but the point remains, regardless of the attacks on 09/11/01, he would have picked a fight with SOMEONE by now. And we are at war. Therefore I feel he is a militarist. And obviously Nader thinks so too.
Disclaimer: I do not plan to vote for Nader this election. I do respect the man though. I will defend his words, as they may be intolerant if you see it that way, but NOT for the reason you gave. I'm usually passive and I don't usually get into these political discussions, but letting that comment stand as is leaves the impression that Nader hates those with an active belief in god.
BUT, the biggest advice one can give is just to simply take it apart. Don't be afraid, just be gentle, and start removing. You'll figure it out.
Once upon a time (last year) I did repair for a teacher in college's Gateway laptop (I hate those damn things), he broke the damn surface mount for the AC connector, first time just broke the terminal pole connecting it to the board, after that he managed to break THE ENTIRE PLASTIC HOUSING. I repaired it several times, eventually I had to buy a cheap AC connector (couldn't find one that would fit) and cut the plastic off of, and used a flat solder tip to melt to the old housing and encase the replacement terminal pole that I'd shaped from some copper with a dremel. Did I ever do anything like that before? Hell no, just tried it and did it. Thats the only way to learn it.
that said, I have a bit of a problem, when I buy something the first thing I do it take it apart and put it back together. When something DOES go wrong then I know my equipment inside and out. Just go for it man!
I don't know why it isn't working. This may be a stupid question, but are you sure the SecondaryLogon service is running?
Yep. I was thinking that maybe runas was completely broken for a second, so I tried running a cmd.exe as administrator, and that worked fine. Unfortunately, I'm a *nix guy and I don't know how to change directory permissions from the cmd shell in windows.
The user is really named Admin.
Thats odd, its not admin on my machine. I'd actually tried the other guys exact command line with the user as admin and it said that user doesn't exist
Did you try SUD/SU? I always use that instead of RunAs anymore.
I may do so, but honestly I don't care enough to do it. I so very rarely use that feature anymore, I was just irritated that runas didn't work. The original post I replied to:
Win2k and up have "runas" which is essentially the same as su/sudo.
I was pointing out that runas is NOTHING like su, it doesn't work for crap as its advertised. su works. runas doesn't. su is a standard on all *nix systems and it always works the same. I can always count on its behaviour.
I've just always had to deal with this kind of crap, from windows junkies. Trust me, I do begrudgingly use Windows for some software, because I have to, but I get REALLY TIRED of hearing the crap of "but things just WORK in windows, no modifying of config files, install xyz lib", etc, but at the same time some very simple things suck so badly in windows. To reverse the argument, I shouldn't HAVE to download some extra software to make something fscking simple like run an explorer window as admin work right.
Sorry I'm so badly off-topic now, I think its time to drop this.
I just tried "runas /u:Admin explorer". It promted me for a password, and then created a new explorer process running as the user Admin.....You could also start a command prompt and run explorer from there.
You have a user named Admin or did you mean the Administrator? Here's what happens when I run the exact same thing you put here (except as Administrator) from a cmd window:
C:\>runas /u:Administrator explorer
Enter password for Administrator:
Attempting to start "explorer" as user "Administrator"...
C:\>
NOTHING. Thats what happens. Not a damn thing appeared.
It worked from xpsp1 and 2ksp3.
This is win2k SP4.
runas is crap. Doesn't even compare to su, which works identically across the 4 different *nix OS's that I admin. Even if runas does work for you, it still doesn't work here. Which I found is typical in windows, such as vbs. The same damn code and scripts don't run the same way on different machines, even though they have the same exact versions of the OS and VBS/WSH
I hate runas, its nothing like su or sudo. Quick rant here, oracle installed with permissions so that only Admin could access the dir. I couldn't change it. Tried to do as I would in KDE and do:
runasto pop open an Admin explorer shell to change the permissions on the dir. Just doesn't work. Command ran and nothing happened. In KDE its just a simple
su root -c konqueror
or for mesudo konqueror
or even ALT+F2, konqueror, "run as different user: root" and enter the password. Had to close everything I was working on (this is my work computer with ssh sessions, code files, and RDP sessions open), log out and log back in as Admin just to simply add my user to the list of allowed users. User-Friendly my assI finally got the apps to run on Linux without jinitiator.
I fired up konqueror, with a sun 1.4 jvm, changed the browser identification to MAC, and the apps launched
Interesting.. This doesn't appear to work for Oracle Forms apps though, at work we develop Forms apps, and I just tried what you said above, the app doesn't load up though. Does this only work with this Discoverer app?
And if you get a rogue app' that hogs all your cpu how do you get rid of it?
Umm, kill it? kill -9 works wonders, or in KDE, ctrl+esc to bring up the process list, highlight the task, and hit "Kill". I must be missing something in this "what if" in the parent.....
1. Have applications been consolidated into an Applications or Programs folder, or do I have to hunt for them scattered all over the place?
I'm not really sure what the hell you mean here. Binaries are in the usual places. The K-Menu contains launcher icons in a similar fashion to the Windows Start menu
2. Can I make aliases, shortcuts or their equivalents by right clicking or modifier key dragging the original?
Drag a file icon somewhere, release. A menu pops up under the cursor with three choices, copy, move, or link (as in symlink, or shortcut in your terms)
3. Do applications have a unique icon identifying the executable, so I know what to double-click to launch the program, or what to make the alias from?
Eh? What? Either you need to explain this one a bit more or at least just look at a screenshot. App launchers have uniquely definable icons. You can change the icon by right click, Properties, click on the icon button, and choose the replacement for that file/App launcher. What I'm assuming you mean is how win32 exe's have an embedded icon in the executable itself, which IMO is ass because later down the line, that icon looks HORRIBLE in comparison to the rest of your new fresh XP icons. The icons for Red Alert and HexWorkshop look like ass on my XP desktop in comparison to the other icons.
4. Can I install an application by dragging an icon of the application to the Applications or Programs folder, or by double-clicking an installer icon that I can download as a single file from a website?
No. This has nothing to do with KDE. It has a package manager/installer, though, so you can install packages made for your distro pretty easily, such as RPM or slackware packages.
5. Can I add and remove items from the start menu (or whatever KDE calls it) by dragging and dropping to and from the menus? (A dialog box would be an acceptable alternative.)
6. Can I add a directory to the start menu and have its contents displayed heirarchically when I click on it from the start menu?
No. Personally I'm glad it doesn't, maybe some people like that and that would be a nice feature. But the menu is customized by right clicking on the menu icon (the big K), and selecting "Customize Menu".
7. Can I use a file browser aka Windows Explorer or the Mac OS X Finder instead of a stupid web browser window to find files on my computer?
What? "stupid web browser window"? What the hell do you mean? The file manager is just like Windows Explorer in that it is simply a container app, that can either display files or html or text or whatever. Just like in explorer I can enter a web address in the bar and it displays that page.
8. Are home directories put in a Users or Accounts folder off the root so that I can find them easily?
Have you ever even USED linux? I'm not even going to answer this. This has to be a troll. No, I will answer it, in linux home directories are located in /home off the root directory.
9. Can I find Windows networked computers by double-clicking a Network neighborhood icon or its equivalent?
Yes KDE has a LAN browser
10. Can I set up sharing on my computer, define workgroups, etc. using a configuration tool like Mac OS X's Network and Sharing preferences pane and the Directory Access utility?
Yes. The tools are there. I'm tired of doing this. You haven't even looked at a linux desktop before, so you are either trolling or, err no you are trolling. If you put any effort forth I would be happy to answer these questions. But you haven't, and I've already wasted enough time responding to this.
Just a note. After seeing your above post, I read that article. It angered me enough to write a letter in response to an editor there, who apparently forwarded it to the author, Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. (I couldn't locate the author's email easily, so I sent it to one that I could find.)
Well now I'm engaging in an email point-counterpoint with this guy. He says he apparently has been reading and posting to /. for quite some time. So maybe he could please stand up here? That is, if this post doesn't get modded to oblivion by Mr. Vaughan-Nichols, since that is how I took the following from the email exchange:
I'll be sure to look for your posts the next time I moderate, since you clearly know nothing about me or my work
I'm not sure how to take that, sounds almost like a threat to me. I wasn't trying to shame the guy here, but I'm not sure how else to put that. Honestly, I'd like for this gentleman to show himself here with his "many years" old UID to post to us, to explain his usage of the post the way he did.
Thought it was either me and my picky taste or Australian beer tasted like shite.
I'm glad to hear not all the beer tastes like that, you guys down under should sue those bastards for damaging the Australian beer instustries image, much like SCO is to Novell (see I did manage to stay on topic ;)
And man am I trashed right now. Only good American beer I'll vouch for here is MGD. Don't bother whis that otehr shite. I'm totally trashed on it right now. Ok I'm going to stop before this gets even worse and I start sluring more words
we just "liberate" the country the operation resides in......
Read my sig
Ok........
Lets see, I run Slackware, so most of these listed here don't apply.....ok now, remote exploits where I don't have to do a DAMN THING to get attacked and have my computer rebooting.......still looking.....still looking......damn. I was hoping I'd find a remote root exploit in this list, and one where I have to reboot the whole damn computer and interrupt my work like I do on my Win2k workstation here for work....nope.
Honestly, most FUD against linux just bounces off of me, I don't care, but you know, after reading your comments and seeing you repeatedly saying, "Read my sig, Linux is insecure too", its REALLY pissing me off. I admin a collection of Win2k, Win2k3, WinNT4, HPUX, AIX, Linux, and Solaris boxes here at work. For several different clients. And which ones REALLY piss me off with the patching? Thats right, the windows ones. Ask customer to take machine offline (in terms of "out of production"), check all of the errata to make sure this patch won't break the apps, apply, start whole process from scratch because NONE of our customers has the exact same environment setup. Some of them, the NT4 ones, I CAN'T apply the RPC patch, it will break the apps, and MS has stated to us, DO NOT apply this patch. Great. Or a VPN workstation that we can't patch, otherwise it will break the VPN software that we HAVE to use to connect to one of our clients.
Now, guess which boxes I DON'T worry about patching? Yep, the RH AS Linux servers. Run up2date, wait a few minutes, oh look at that, not even a reboot OR even taking the box out of production required! The site you keep boasting about is nothing save a collection of bugs. Thats it. Local attacks, if anything. This isn't 'shocking'. Software has bugs. But sane coding practices keeps it down to a minimum. I really don't remember the the last time my Linux machine was exploited. Oh, I know why, because it NEVER WAS. Hell I had this Win2k workstation for less than a day, and WHILE I WAS PATCHING IT, it was exploited by blaster.
People ask me if I hate Windows, and why. I say I don't hate it, it just pisses me off sometimes, because I KNOW an OS can be a hell of a lot nicer than it is. MS really just makes horrible software, I have not found ONE peice of software by them that I haven't found a better competetor to. And its sad, it doesn't have to be this way. If they are going to be on every system in the world, causing people to HAVE to use it, they really could make it a bit better to use. I don't mind getting screwed, as long as they drug me up first. I can ignore the monopoly, just make the software decent, dammit! Having a monopoly doesn't really bother me, its just that the monopoly is illogical. They didn't get there by being the best, most secure, easiest to use, etc. And I hate them every day for it.
And no, its not just MS, I hate Oracle on a daily basis tooHe didn't update the driver. He applied patches. How are you going to use "Roll Back Driver" to undo Windows Updates? I'd like to know that one.
Now who's the dumbass?
hmmm, I've now seen this post with *BSD and Mac now. Its about time we got a linux version of this troll. Truly cross-platform!
In case now one else knows what I'm talking about, this post is an old Mac troll. I've seen it reposted with BSD subbed for Mac too. Too funny!
The problem with your analogy is, if you create a separate kernel module, or other portion of code, and you consequently release it as GPL, then you cannot revoke the GPL on that code. The releases that you put it in as GPL will forever be GPL. However, you later decide you no longer want it to be GPL, and you quit working on it, and make all further releases under some other license. Now, you are COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR RIGHT to do this. You are the copyright holder, you wrote the code in question. You can take your code an adapt it and merge it into SomeProprietaryUnix's kernel, and release it under any license you wish. But the code you initially made GPL and had distributed as GPL, will always remain GPL. Someone else can then work on it.
I really hate it when people don't understand copyright at all and make statements like this. As an artist, if I create a work such as a painting, and I then sell it to SomeRichCollector, I am in no way forbidden from painting another and giving it to my grandmother, or teaching some college students exactly how to recreate it. I can do whatever the hell I want with my art. Since source code also falls under copyright, the same applies to GPL source code. You are releasing it under a copyright that gives certain permissions for others to copy it. You are NOT giving away your copyright. You are simply making a release that carries no restrictions, and you cannot retract your release, same as I cannot later force SomeRichCollector to give me back my painting. I released it to him in that instance.
But the point here is, you never give up your right to the code in question, it is your creation for the duration of the copywrite period, and you can license it however you wish and as many times as you wish, with the exceptions of fair use.
This whole case is based upon a contract between IBM and SCO, where SCO claims that IBM, under contract to AT&T, agreed that any code they created and released with the SysV code be kept locked up. This is a derived work, and is somewhat fair, since it would be a Bad Thing for IBM to release their code with the SysV code under any other license. What isn't clear here is what a derived work is. I have no question that the RCU code as released with AIX falls under that contract, and must remain a 'secret'. However, what isn't clear is whether the code by itself is a derived work. Personally I don't feel that it should be, it is a component, a 'part of a whole', that when released in conjunction with AIX is a derived work since it is adding to the SysV code to create AIX, however if said code is reworked without using any portions of SysV, which would likely have been required in order to interact with the SysV kernel, as in to work with the Linux kernel, now it is 'pure' code that IBM has written, it has nothing to do with the SysV code. That is one issue that the courts will have to decide.
I have made ever attempt to spell check this post. But it would be very nice if the slashcode were changed to GIVE ME A BIGGER BOX TO WRITE IN!!!
And are we both talking about the FireGL drivers?
Check out their archives for more info.
Ok, WHOSE archives am supposed to check out? I didn't get any hits on Google, and Ati's site is a pain to navigate. Can you provide a bit more info here?
As a developer, the tester should use the program as intended, and throw in a few curves there. That was what the writer was referring to. I'd probably fire you if you came to me and said, "Yea, I finished testing that beta. It sucks. I rm'd the executable and now it doesn't work". That isn't beta testing, moron. Testing is, "hmmm, let's enter some invalid data here, and see how the parser handles it" or "Let's just close this dialog without completing it". The point is to look for normal, unintended use where the application doesn't handle it. It isn't bias in this article. That's beta testing. Nice troll.
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Xerox essentially gave it to apple, or more like the idea. I don't remember the specifics of the deal, but Xerox owed Apple and Apple wanted a look at some of their tech. However, the whole desktop concept came from Apple, from the info I've read.
my WinXP desktop operate like my Kde desktop. Like many, I have a nice machine, good for games, so I do dual boot. Most of the time I'm not really feeling like rebooting, so I haven't rebooted in 2 weeks, but when I do, I've tried to make WinXP like my Linux desktop. I have kde set up so that I can be productive, and I have access to all sorts of info with out much effort.
Short of posting a screenshot, I have my panel at the bottom center, not fully expanded like OS X, and at "Huge". Apps can overlap it, and if it slam the cursor to the bottom edge, the panel reappears. There I have my Konsole, Konqueror Web, Konq FileMan, Kmail, and show desktop buttons. Then, I have my pager, my CPU/Mem load applet, Logout/Lock, then systray: klipper, kmix, KSim(Ethernet/Temp/Mem monitor), and Knotes, for writing little post-its. Finally my clock. All big and easy to access with one click. At the top, I have my Taskbar, all running apps where I can minimize them. In the top right corner I have the main window for KSim, set to be always on top. Now, I've TRIED to make XP like this desktop, and its not possible. The apps don't exist, or they operate very different from the linux equivs and don't have the options that the Kde apps do. I checked out MS's little virtual desktop powertoy, and when it doesn't cause the machine to lock, it still makes it more of a pain in the ass or harder to change desktops than the Kde pager. I'm stuck with the Start menu in the corner (oooh I can move to to some OTHER corner!), I can't make the Quick Launch icons any bigger without making the whole bar bigger, I can't separate the tasklist from the main bar, there is no CPU/Mem monitor that embeds visually in the bar, and I can't find a Knotes like app whose UI is as good as KNotes. I could go on, but I don't feel like wasting the time. In short, Linux may have some of the UI concepts from Windows, but its been enhanced past the XP UI. Besides, who the fuck said MS came up with the "WIMP" UI anyway? They copied it from Apple to begin with.
1.)In house user mode code is not affected by kernel changes.
2.)The API is stable during a release, i.e. 2.2.x API is the same throughout, while 2.4.x has a different API from 2.2, but it is consistant throughout that series.
3.)This would only be necessary if they keep upgrading to the latest and greatest kernel, which shouldn't happen frequently. They can stay on one kernel series and not have the API change on them, and yes, security patches DO come out for the older kernels, 2.2 is still maintained, and I'm not sure but I think 2.0 is too.