That would allow people to create mods by trial and error... this way it will be quite expensive to do that. I'm a Live user and I'm happy with their policy.
It is sad to see the incredible amount of flames this article has recieved. I thought that/. would be the last place where sharing information and free speech would be attacked so virulently. Maybe Chris made a mistake by forgetting to add the "spoiler allert". So what if he did so? He did what we all strive to do here: find an interesting story, write it the most objective way he could and post it as fast as possible. And he achived that! Quite well I might add. Sure he fortot to add 3 words at the beginning of the text. Does he deserve all this hatred? I naively hoped he wasn't going to.... I was wrong. I'm afraid this thread just shows how much/. posts, people and opinions are becomming mainstream.
IMHO people keep taking the traditional (and somehow wrong) approach to the Internet market.
Right now (It'll probably change) one of the best ways to get money with the internet is NOT by selling what you create, but by creating something that generates a lot of interest and therefore a lot of traffic to your Web Site...
This traffic will attract banners... banners bring money. (Banners is just one example of ways to get money out of a heavily visited website, I'm sure there are many others)
There are web-sites (User Friendly and Dilbert Zone for example) that don't sell their comics, but they have generated such an interest that I'm sure they could be a good business just by the number of readers they attract
I keep wondering about the legal ages for several things in this country (USA).
Driving age: 14-16
Legal sex age: 16-18 (?)
Marriage age: 15 (?)
Death penalty age: 14
Army age: 18
Voting age: 18
Drinking age: 21
It is amazing for how many things you are considered responsible enough for before you are allowed to drink.
That doesn't quite make much sense. Wouldn't it make much more sense having a legislation more European like? In Europe most countries have a legal drinking age 2 years lower than the driving age (Drink: 16, Drive: 18). What happens is that by the time you get to dive all the drinking hype is already gone and there are not so many accidents related to alcohol....
Would Americans trade one age for the other?
Trying to make sure I was accurate I found this useful link.
http://www.alcyone.com/max/reference/physics/prefi xes.html
Re:1000 trillion is the equivalent of one quadrill
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If you want to be a smart ass... at least be smart.
Unit........ USA............. UK
Million..... 1000000 (6 0's). 1000000 (6)
Billion..... 1000 mill (9)... mill mill (12)
Trillion.... 1000 bill (12).. mill bill (18)
Quadrillion. 1000 trill (15). mill trill (24)
quintillion. 1000 quad (18).. mill quad (30)
sextillion.. 1000 quint (21). mill quint (36)
septillion.. 1000 sixt (24).. mill sixt (42)
octillion... 1000 sept (27).. mill sept (48)
so... 1000 trillion is 10exp21, in USA would be a sextillion.
when you read this big numbers in the press you have to be very careful about who wrote it and where. In other countries, like Spain, for example,10exp24= 1000 trillion (UK) would actually be a thousand million billions (Spain)
I have been pondering your problem for the last few hours and I finally reached a conclusion:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY!
Look, this is what is going to happen:
- Bush promised to spend more money in USA's army... for "defense" (yeah, right)
- Bush wins the elections.
- Bush spends more money in the army.
- The army finds out they have nobody to defend from.
- They army gets bored, they need action!
- Bush decides to take over the world.
- He begins with the third world.
- Takes Philippines in one day (National Security reasons, of course)
- Your country becomes the 51st star in the flag.
- You become an American citizen.
- So by the time you graduate you are ready to work anywhere you want in the USA.
As much as I like... or even more... love, this book, I think it is going to be hard to make a movie that satisfies everybody.
It is not a book that translates very well to the movie language.
Tolkien's books immerses the reader in a world of imagination, magic and fantasy... all those in its mind. The problem of the movie is that they have to show the directors point view... so there is less room for the viewer's imagination.
Also, in the LOTR Tolkien states Aragorn-Arwen relationship in a paragraph. And that's it... In literature, specially if its epic, you can get away with : "Their love was eternal and pure... move on"
In a movie that is not going to work. If Aragorn's love is an important feature of his personality they have to develop it in a convincing way. And it is obvious it is. Aragorn's love for Arwen (at least the way I interpret the book) is the one of Aragorn's main motivations to fulfill his destiny (become a king, and therefore be able to marry her)...
Emphasizing the love story can be a good resource to tell this story. I'd wait and see.
I agree, Sortof bunk... but without the "sortof".
It keeps surprising me how strongly Americans think they are the center of the world.
World Series (beisball), World championship (football), Top X of anything.
It is all measured around what Americans can do or not.
In this "Amazon award for the best book" we have another example. I browsed quickly over the 100 books they have there. The first non english book comes in 26th position and there are only 11 in total.
In the www. there is included a "world wide", something that most companies keep forgetting. Although Amazon is an American company, they should keep in mind that they are not anymore living in the closed environment of their country, but in a WORLD WIDE community. They should act accordingly. English literature is just a very small percent of all what has been written in this last millenium.
Companies like Amazon should take advantage of this kind of awards and OPEN them to all the cultures and languages that this environment offers us.
>>> REVIEW OF THE YEAR, 2000 It was shit. Give us another one.
Politician: Yeah, it was a crappy way to begin the millenium. Lets listen to those Nerds and make another Millenium Party for the 2001.
Although there are some good points in what you say I also have to disagree with some of it.
There will be a spike in "summer" temperate environments. This will bring about the melting of polar caps and the re-routing of standard ocean currents. Once there is enough moisture in the atmosphere, the temperatures will steadily decline
This is just one of the many theories. It is based on the principle that when there is more moisture in the atmosphere the albedo of the earth increases, therefore it reflects more of the Sun's radiation. Less radiation means lower temperatures. Lower temperatures lead you to snow precipitation that increase the Earth's albedo even more...
But... at the same time, as temperatures lower, less water is evaporated, so there are less clouds. Less clouds less albedo... less reflection, increases temperature...
And this is just one of the factors. There are many more considerations I don't even mention.
Although I am no denying the importance of the problem I believe that these alarmist predictions only diminish the credibility of less catastrophic, still serous and more scientific investigations.
Global warming does not mean that we'll be wearing shorts in January. What it does mean is that the seasons will be come more extreme and completely unpredictable.
Prediction is a matter of information. Weather might become extreme (another unproved theory), but the principles of its prediction will be the same. With the improvements in technology I can only predict better predictions.
The only way to bounce back is to shut the planet down and take about a 100 year rest from resource depletion, fossil fuel use, let the forrests re-grow, and all of the anti-global warming idoits out there to stop their "we aren't going to do any thing to the Earth's climate".
Nobody should deny there is warming effect going on. True, and some measures have to be taken. Again, extremists and alarmists only take credibility out of the real problem. Proposing solutions like this is a mistake. First, you are assuming that the global warmth is caused ONLY by those reasons... there are many other reasons. Do not forget that you are trying to evaluate a billions year process from a 10 year analysis. There has been global warmth periods in the past, there has been glacial ages in the past... so, keep your mind open, be ACCURATE in your studies and PROPORTIONATE in your solutions. Being alarmist and catastrophic will not help, and will make people take this issue less seriously.
About Practical Reasons...
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From the top of my mind I can think of 3 main reasons that have driven science all along history: Practical Reasons, wars and humankind endless curiosity.
I guess that for every advance in science we can find a bit of each in it.
Reasons for the elevator?
Practical: Cheaper and safer launch platform for communication satellites, elevator for the first space tourists, cheap way to send labor to orbit.
Wars: Easy and fast way to put spy satellites in orbit, transfer funds from launching to R&D, build an orbital defense/offense system, space wars.
Curiosity: A challenge, a step forward towards space colonization, a way to find new questions.
Pick the one you like most
Personally I like to think that the third is what drives us... but I'm naive
I ABSOLUTELY agree with you.
What some people fail to grasp is that both careers have a very different approach to he problem.
In CS you get a knowledge base: Logic, algorithm, Operating systems, compilers, architecture, patterns, technologies... AND THEN they choose a language/s to teach you all that.
In CIS/MIS they teach you the business, the marketing, a language AND THEN they tell you what to do with that language.
In CS they teach you to fish, in CIS they give you the fish.
If what you want is money, you will have to work hard, no matter what you choose to do in life. If you choose CIS for the money AND the 'less' effort, you can get a job after school, but the rest will depend on EFFORT. So you might as well practice that from school.
If you are lazy you will never get the bucks. No matter what you do in life; wether you are a fireman, a business man or a doctor. If you are lazy you'll get nowhere.
So, if you are getting nowhere, my advice, get to a 'nowhere' you like, because you are going to be there for a long while.
I have to give you something. After being in the IT professional world for over 4 years you get to spot pretty quickly the people that are here for the money and the people that ALSO got into this because they liked it.
The later tend to be a lot more competent.
Why? Because this is a constantly changing environment, you have to learn and study every day if you want to keep the path. If you don't like it, you will drop the vagon pretty soon and you will find yourself stuck in the only job you know how to do getting a decent salary for one third of the rest of your life. Pretty sad...
It seems that everybody is only considering two options (in general), either you quit or you keep, somehow, your position.
Haven't it crossed your mind to accept it? At least for a while. There are some gains on it:
- It is a step that eventually everyone takes. It is difficult to stay in the technical field forever specially when technology changes so fast and there are willing young people better prepared than you in those fields. It will not happen now, nor in 5 even 10 years. But it is a step you will have to take anyway.
- In the software development process there are many steps. Managing a project gives you a point of view that you lack when you just develop. I think the experience can be valuable.
- From what everyone is saying it seems likely that you will change your job anyway. Why not giving it a try?
- It is a new experience, you might end liking it and all. If you don't, well, you can always find a new job.
My advice: try it, you have nothing to loose and an unknown amount of things ( > 0) to win. Its a win-win situation.
After reading some of posts I get the feeling that people think that the only difference between CS and CIS is math. IMHO I believe that is just scratching the surface.
- CS gives you deeper understanding of what you are really doing, rather than just knowing how to do it. Therefore, in general, you get better troubleshooting skills, which are VERY valued in the professional world.
- The IT market has been on a boom for several years, but all that goes up, goes down. Eventually. And this will too (and it is already showing some signs of it). Think that when you graduate the market will probably be closer to be saturated, and then is when CS will have the edge again.
- When in a course 20 managers listed what we value most in a new hire the 3 top things out of a list of 15 were consistently: Ability to learn, Initiative and base knowledge. Make your own conclusions.
- It is my feeling after 4 years working that CS end up as developers and CIS end up as users, VB developers or DBA's (not there is anything wrong with that!;D)
- Basic law of life. What takes you more effort ends up giving you more rewards.
- IT industry law: You are what you have done the last 3-4 years.
- If what worries you is getting a first job, I think that an internship in a good company before you graduate is going to be more important than the difference between CIS and CS.
- But at the end... it all comes to the individual. I hire people, not Resumes... It is going to be your attitude, your initiative, your enthusiasm what at the end is going to get you hired. What you have done up to the point of the interview is a reflection of who you are and how you do things. Choosing between CS and CIS already says something about you.
A agree with you... and I would go further. Greedy record labels are not worried about losing record sales, but about being THEM and NO OTHER the ones that get benefit of this new emerging media (Internet)
Basically what they are doing is creating so many barriers and legal problems that only established powerful industries can get a piece of the cake, making it impossible for independent or startup companies.
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In 2029 $10.000 may allow you to buy a bag of dog food... maybe a couple of sandwiches.
That would allow people to create mods by trial and error... this way it will be quite expensive to do that.
I'm a Live user and I'm happy with their policy.
Great post!
I was about to reply this when I read yours... Thanks for bringing some sanity to the thread.
It is sad to see the incredible amount of flames this article has recieved. /. would be the last place where sharing information and free speech would be attacked so virulently. /. posts, people and opinions are becomming mainstream.
I thought that
Maybe Chris made a mistake by forgetting to add the "spoiler allert". So what if he did so? He did what we all strive to do here: find an interesting story, write it the most objective way he could and post it as fast as possible.
And he achived that! Quite well I might add.
Sure he fortot to add 3 words at the beginning of the text. Does he deserve all this hatred?
I naively hoped he wasn't going to.... I was wrong.
I'm afraid this thread just shows how much
IMHO people keep taking the traditional (and somehow wrong) approach to the Internet market.
Right now (It'll probably change) one of the best ways to get money with the internet is NOT by selling what you create, but by creating something that generates a lot of interest and therefore a lot of traffic to your Web Site...
This traffic will attract banners... banners bring money. (Banners is just one example of ways to get money out of a heavily visited website, I'm sure there are many others)
There are web-sites (User Friendly and Dilbert Zone for example) that don't sell their comics, but they have generated such an interest that I'm sure they could be a good business just by the number of readers they attract
I keep wondering about the legal ages for several things in this country (USA).
Driving age: 14-16
Legal sex age: 16-18 (?)
Marriage age: 15 (?)
Death penalty age: 14
Army age: 18
Voting age: 18
Drinking age: 21
It is amazing for how many things you are considered responsible enough for before you are allowed to drink.
That doesn't quite make much sense. Wouldn't it make much more sense having a legislation more European like? In Europe most countries have a legal drinking age 2 years lower than the driving age (Drink: 16, Drive: 18). What happens is that by the time you get to dive all the drinking hype is already gone and there are not so many accidents related to alcohol....
Would Americans trade one age for the other?
Just a thought
Trying to make sure I was accurate I found this useful link. http://www.alcyone.com/max/reference/physics/prefi xes.html
If you want to be a smart ass... at least be smart.
Unit........ USA............. UK
Million..... 1000000 (6 0's). 1000000 (6)
Billion..... 1000 mill (9)... mill mill (12)
Trillion.... 1000 bill (12).. mill bill (18)
Quadrillion. 1000 trill (15). mill trill (24)
quintillion. 1000 quad (18).. mill quad (30)
sextillion.. 1000 quint (21). mill quint (36)
septillion.. 1000 sixt (24).. mill sixt (42)
octillion... 1000 sept (27).. mill sept (48)
so... 1000 trillion is 10exp21, in USA would be a sextillion.
when you read this big numbers in the press you have to be very careful about who wrote it and where. In other countries, like Spain, for example,10exp24= 1000 trillion (UK) would actually be a thousand million billions (Spain)
I have been pondering your problem for the last few hours and I finally reached a conclusion:
:)
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY!
Look, this is what is going to happen:
- Bush promised to spend more money in USA's army... for "defense" (yeah, right)
- Bush wins the elections.
- Bush spends more money in the army.
- The army finds out they have nobody to defend from.
- They army gets bored, they need action!
- Bush decides to take over the world.
- He begins with the third world.
- Takes Philippines in one day (National Security reasons, of course)
- Your country becomes the 51st star in the flag.
- You become an American citizen.
- So by the time you graduate you are ready to work anywhere you want in the USA.
ISN'T THAT GREAT!!?
You are welcome
As I said... I briefly browsed over the list. One might have skipped through.
As much as I like... or even more... love, this book, I think it is going to be hard to make a movie that satisfies everybody.
It is not a book that translates very well to the movie language.
Tolkien's books immerses the reader in a world of imagination, magic and fantasy... all those in its mind. The problem of the movie is that they have to show the directors point view... so there is less room for the viewer's imagination.
Also, in the LOTR Tolkien states Aragorn-Arwen relationship in a paragraph. And that's it... In literature, specially if its epic, you can get away with : "Their love was eternal and pure... move on"
In a movie that is not going to work. If Aragorn's love is an important feature of his personality they have to develop it in a convincing way. And it is obvious it is. Aragorn's love for Arwen (at least the way I interpret the book) is the one of Aragorn's main motivations to fulfill his destiny (become a king, and therefore be able to marry her)...
Emphasizing the love story can be a good resource to tell this story. I'd wait and see.
I agree, Sortof bunk... but without the "sortof".
It keeps surprising me how strongly Americans think they are the center of the world.
World Series (beisball), World championship (football), Top X of anything.
It is all measured around what Americans can do or not.
In this "Amazon award for the best book" we have another example. I browsed quickly over the 100 books they have there. The first non english book comes in 26th position and there are only 11 in total.
In the www. there is included a "world wide", something that most companies keep forgetting. Although Amazon is an American company, they should keep in mind that they are not anymore living in the closed environment of their country, but in a WORLD WIDE community. They should act accordingly. English literature is just a very small percent of all what has been written in this last millenium.
Companies like Amazon should take advantage of this kind of awards and OPEN them to all the cultures and languages that this environment offers us.
Less biased and more accurate articles about the Pentium IV can be found at:
www.tomshardware.com
www.anandtech.com
The human brain IS a can o' worms
;)
Freud.com
The human brain IS a can o' worms Freud.com ;)
>>> REVIEW OF THE YEAR, 2000 It was shit. Give us another one. Politician: Yeah, it was a crappy way to begin the millenium. Lets listen to those Nerds and make another Millenium Party for the 2001.
Although there are some good points in what you say I also have to disagree with some of it.
There will be a spike in "summer" temperate environments. This will bring about the melting of polar caps and the re-routing of standard ocean currents. Once there is enough moisture in the atmosphere, the temperatures will steadily decline
This is just one of the many theories. It is based on the principle that when there is more moisture in the atmosphere the albedo of the earth increases, therefore it reflects more of the Sun's radiation. Less radiation means lower temperatures. Lower temperatures lead you to snow precipitation that increase the Earth's albedo even more...
But... at the same time, as temperatures lower, less water is evaporated, so there are less clouds. Less clouds less albedo... less reflection, increases temperature...
And this is just one of the factors. There are many more considerations I don't even mention.
Although I am no denying the importance of the problem I believe that these alarmist predictions only diminish the credibility of less catastrophic, still serous and more scientific investigations.
Global warming does not mean that we'll be wearing shorts in January. What it does mean is that the seasons will be come more extreme and completely unpredictable.
Prediction is a matter of information. Weather might become extreme (another unproved theory), but the principles of its prediction will be the same. With the improvements in technology I can only predict better predictions.
The only way to bounce back is to shut the planet down and take about a 100 year rest from resource depletion, fossil fuel use, let the forrests re-grow, and all of the anti-global warming idoits out there to stop their "we aren't going to do any thing to the Earth's climate".
Nobody should deny there is warming effect going on. True, and some measures have to be taken. Again, extremists and alarmists only take credibility out of the real problem. Proposing solutions like this is a mistake. First, you are assuming that the global warmth is caused ONLY by those reasons... there are many other reasons. Do not forget that you are trying to evaluate a billions year process from a 10 year analysis. There has been global warmth periods in the past, there has been glacial ages in the past... so, keep your mind open, be ACCURATE in your studies and PROPORTIONATE in your solutions. Being alarmist and catastrophic will not help, and will make people take this issue less seriously.
From the top of my mind I can think of 3 main reasons that have driven science all along history: Practical Reasons, wars and humankind endless curiosity. I guess that for every advance in science we can find a bit of each in it. Reasons for the elevator? Practical: Cheaper and safer launch platform for communication satellites, elevator for the first space tourists, cheap way to send labor to orbit. Wars: Easy and fast way to put spy satellites in orbit, transfer funds from launching to R&D, build an orbital defense/offense system, space wars. Curiosity: A challenge, a step forward towards space colonization, a way to find new questions. Pick the one you like most Personally I like to think that the third is what drives us... but I'm naive
I ABSOLUTELY agree with you.
What some people fail to grasp is that both careers have a very different approach to he problem.
In CS you get a knowledge base: Logic, algorithm, Operating systems, compilers, architecture, patterns, technologies... AND THEN they choose a language/s to teach you all that.
In CIS/MIS they teach you the business, the marketing, a language AND THEN they tell you what to do with that language.
In CS they teach you to fish, in CIS they give you the fish.
If what you want is money, you will have to work hard, no matter what you choose to do in life. If you choose CIS for the money AND the 'less' effort, you can get a job after school, but the rest will depend on EFFORT. So you might as well practice that from school.
If you are lazy you will never get the bucks. No matter what you do in life; wether you are a fireman, a business man or a doctor. If you are lazy you'll get nowhere.
So, if you are getting nowhere, my advice, get to a 'nowhere' you like, because you are going to be there for a long while.
I have to give you something. After being in the IT professional world for over 4 years you get to spot pretty quickly the people that are here for the money and the people that ALSO got into this because they liked it.
The later tend to be a lot more competent.
Why? Because this is a constantly changing environment, you have to learn and study every day if you want to keep the path. If you don't like it, you will drop the vagon pretty soon and you will find yourself stuck in the only job you know how to do getting a decent salary for one third of the rest of your life. Pretty sad...
It seems that everybody is only considering two options (in general), either you quit or you keep, somehow, your position.
Haven't it crossed your mind to accept it? At least for a while. There are some gains on it:
- It is a step that eventually everyone takes. It is difficult to stay in the technical field forever specially when technology changes so fast and there are willing young people better prepared than you in those fields. It will not happen now, nor in 5 even 10 years. But it is a step you will have to take anyway.
- In the software development process there are many steps. Managing a project gives you a point of view that you lack when you just develop. I think the experience can be valuable.
- From what everyone is saying it seems likely that you will change your job anyway. Why not giving it a try?
- It is a new experience, you might end liking it and all. If you don't, well, you can always find a new job.
My advice: try it, you have nothing to loose and an unknown amount of things ( > 0) to win. Its a win-win situation.
After reading some of posts I get the feeling that people think that the only difference between CS and CIS is math. IMHO I believe that is just scratching the surface.
- CS gives you deeper understanding of what you are really doing, rather than just knowing how to do it. Therefore, in general, you get better troubleshooting skills, which are VERY valued in the professional world.
- The IT market has been on a boom for several years, but all that goes up, goes down. Eventually. And this will too (and it is already showing some signs of it). Think that when you graduate the market will probably be closer to be saturated, and then is when CS will have the edge again.
- When in a course 20 managers listed what we value most in a new hire the 3 top things out of a list of 15 were consistently: Ability to learn, Initiative and base knowledge. Make your own conclusions.
- It is my feeling after 4 years working that CS end up as developers and CIS end up as users, VB developers or DBA's (not there is anything wrong with that! ;D)
- Basic law of life. What takes you more effort ends up giving you more rewards.
- IT industry law: You are what you have done the last 3-4 years.
- If what worries you is getting a first job, I think that an internship in a good company before you graduate is going to be more important than the difference between CIS and CS.
- But at the end... it all comes to the individual. I hire people, not Resumes... It is going to be your attitude, your initiative, your enthusiasm what at the end is going to get you hired. What you have done up to the point of the interview is a reflection of who you are and how you do things. Choosing between CS and CIS already says something about you.
A agree with you... and I would go further. Greedy record labels are not worried about losing record sales, but about being THEM and NO OTHER the ones that get benefit of this new emerging media (Internet)
Basically what they are doing is creating so many barriers and legal problems that only established powerful industries can get a piece of the cake, making it impossible for independent or startup companies.