no, I've had only slightly better luck running it here on NT as well. I do get a window, but everything is frozen and it seems to be stuck in a loop or something trying to init a database key or something. I killed it and tried again and got past that but then because I'm behind a firewall that asks for user and password, that seems to really confuse it as well. I tried to use the prefs to bypass the proxy for local addresses (have a http server running on this box) and that didn't work. Tried putting in 127.0.0.1 and it still gets the challenge from the proxy. I enter the user and pass and it just pops back up again. I'll wait till I get home and try it on various machines behind my masq box (NT W98 Linux, etc) to see how it works without a pesky proxy server around.
Not too bent out of shape at this point, tho. I think 12 actually worked better because it didn't seem to be proxy-aware and I could use it on internal servers with no problems. Methinks I'll wait and see if it warrants a bug report (do they even want those yet?)
Ever read the short-story "Fat Farm"? (I can't remember who the author is)
Basically the main character is a rich, fat bastard who routinely goes to this exclusive spa that is able to create a complete adult clone of him (22 yrs old, good looking and fit) and then "transfer" his consciousness into the clone. A few papers to sign, and then the clone walks out, bearing his full concioussness and legal identity. The final step in the process is to humanely dispose of the original, which in this case is actually like the 6th or 7th copy, the actual original having supposedly been euthanized years ago.
(if you haven't read this, and intend to, read no further)
So but then they don't actually dispose of him, do they? They send him to a kind of boot camp where they whip him (literally) into shape for several months. There is some wiry old bastard that seems to take sadistic delight in physically and mentally tormenting him as he goes through a 6-month hard-labor kind of training.
And then after he is 'broken' and back in some kind of useful physical shape, he is then forced into some kind of hideous assignment (the author does not go into detail, the reader is left to imagine what kind of crap they can pull on you since you have no more legal standing than a slab of beef).
Then the kicker is that the guy that whipped him into shape is none other than his original self who is now forced for the rest of his life to see his fat clones come in, having spent his money, lived his life, become enourmously fat and then created yet another clone who had no idea nor cares what happened to the former selves - so he sadistically punishes his clones for six months during their 'training'.
What was my point? Oh, yeah. When your 'essence' is transferred to another 'vessel' (bio or mech) is it really you? Heh, in this case, they were all 'him'. They all shared the same life experience at least up until the first cloning. Each of the subsequent clones lived their life knowing that they were a complete copy of the original, with the same attitudes, indifference and arrogance that the original had.
Thanks Chad, I do know that. My problem lately is I'm too lazy to click that box and frankly I'm a little tired of the whole karma/moderation thing. I'm just going though a period of civil disobedience after being accused of being a karma whore when all I'm doing is posting relevant comments and questions instead of just being an ass like everyone else seems to be around here anymore.
Guess it's just time to turn off scores and browse at -1 and not look at my user info page to see what replies to my comments are like. But then that kind of defeats the purpose. Dunno, maybe I just had too much for one day, you know?
I mean really, it's true that it was kind of a contradiction that not releasing the source for the site that openly supports open source, but the hysteria and trolling around it was too much.
So, you've won. Slash is released. Time to move on to some other all-important issue to bitch and whine about at -1 on every thread. What will it be? Where will all the complainers focus their hostility now? LinuxOne? RedHat? George Lucas? Hot grits?
Lots of (negative) energy floating around out there now without a single purpose anymore. What an opportunity to re-direct all of than onto some new life/death cause!
I've noticed this trend of 1st posters being loggen in rather than AC. What is that all about? Make moderators waste 2 points instead of 1 to make it -1?
>let's face it, if one had the potential to become a Dark Lord and kill the Jedi, don't you think that it would have sent off some vibes to warn someone???
Of course, maybe this is why Yoda resists letting him into the club at first? He senses something not quite right with the kid, can't put his finger on it, and comes up with some other excuse to deny Leeson's request to take him on as apprentice.
Of course, you can always come up with some plausible explanation for this kind of this. That's what keeps the SW newsgroups full of this kind of crap.
(barely on-topic, better moderate it down just to be safe ):-)
Really? How does that work? I can't do that with my Panasonic DVD and my Hitachi VCR. When I got my DVD, I just wanted to hook it up by daisy-chaining it through the VCR but the signal gets all scrambled if the VCR power happens to be on. I ended up finally finding a use for that s-video terminal on my TV by buying a cable and hooking up the DVD there. Screwed up my setup though because I used to have a splitter to bring the cable direct into the ant. on the TV, send the other to the cable box and VCR that then went into video so I could tape the Soprano's off HBO and watch X-files at the same time.
(sorry, long off-topic post, please moderate it down)
Another way to go is adjustable wire shelves. I have a couple different setups in strategic locations in my house. I have a 72"high by 18" deepby 36" wide 5-shelf unit that sits on casters and is in the corner of my computer room/study that basically has my cable modem, masq box and a hub that functions as a walk-up LAN workstation and cd burning center. I got a $20 slide-out kbd that fits unser one of the shelves and a cheapo vga monitor to go with the whole deal. Think I paid like $60 at Sam's for the wire shelf kit.
I have a 72"Hx48"Wx18#D 4-shelf that I have in my converted walk-in closet that I use for the servers. I have 3 boxes sitting on the bottom shelf, the next one up has a hub and some other equipment and the other 2 are basically storage and bookshelf. This one cost a little more, maybe $150 but not nearly as much as some of the rack units I looked at that were $800 or more.
>we are also free to do as we please with our possessions.
Right, and I think 'possessions' is at or near the crux of the matter. If you buy a DVD, your perception of your rights to use that recorded media as you see fit ovbiously are different than what the DVD CCA would like. You want to be able to play it whenever you like on whatever device you prefer. They don't want you to play it on a device or system that they can't control and exact some kind of membership fee or other tax.
I've seen arguments back and forth about whether piracy is an issue with the prohibitive costs and bandwidth restrictions, but I think a far more compelling motivation in all this is to keep all the lisencees in lock-step and keep under their control who can manufacture systems that can play DVD CSS'ed information.
Because of the karma system and the moderators actions on my posts, I have a stupid amount of karma which adds a +1 to every post I make (see my new sig)
I guess that's a good question, but isn't an injunction different than a final judgement? I thought the idea was to stop whatever is going on because you convinced the judge you are suffering irreparable harm, yet to be proven -BTW, so they shut you down until you have your day in court. Sucks, but I think that's the idea, knock it off for now until we decide if you're really breaking the law because if you are wrong, there's no way to stuff the shit back in to horse that comes out for the two years that it takes to decide the case. If you end up winning, and you've been shut down all this time, oh well- too bad.
Course, if you've wrongfully siffered financial harm because of the injunction, do you have grounds of a counter-suit?
>If you are doing video editing or other disk-intensive tasks, you should probably use SCSI, otherwise...
Thanks for saying this, now I don't feel as much like an idiot after reading through these posts.
I bought a SCSI drive and adapter after I ran into trouble with my PC being able to capture video over IEEE 1394 from my new digital camcorder. My PII-333 and WD udma-66/7200 drive dropped about 20% of the video frames. When I checked into this, the best advice I found was to go SCSI.
Adaptec makes a combo adapter that has Firewire as well as UW-SCSI interface (was coming up short on PCI slots) and I went with a Seagate Barracuda drive. I'm still using the IDE drive for running the machine since I've never had any trouble with it being fast enough for anything else, but now I'm using the SCSI drive to do the video capture and editing. This was an expensive way to go, but it sounds like the alternative might have been to upgrade the CPU to compensate for the IDE.
Well, that's a really good point and you may very well be right. I'm willing to be very impressed. I didn't mean to come off skeptical if that's how I sounded.
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no, I've had only slightly better luck running it here on NT as well. I do get a window, but everything is frozen and it seems to be stuck in a loop or something trying to init a database key or something. I killed it and tried again and got past that but then because I'm behind a firewall that asks for user and password, that seems to really confuse it as well. I tried to use the prefs to bypass the proxy for local addresses (have a http server running on this box) and that didn't work. Tried putting in 127.0.0.1 and it still gets the challenge from the proxy. I enter the user and pass and it just pops back up again. I'll wait till I get home and try it on various machines behind my masq box (NT W98 Linux, etc) to see how it works without a pesky proxy server around.
Not too bent out of shape at this point, tho. I think 12 actually worked better because it didn't seem to be proxy-aware and I could use it on internal servers with no problems. Methinks I'll wait and see if it warrants a bug report (do they even want those yet?)
Love that moderation!
The parent is offtopic, but the reply to the offtopic question is +3 informitive. Yay!
Time to turn off scores again.
And your point being.... what?
thank you sir, may I have another? (-1)
Ever read the short-story "Fat Farm"? (I can't remember who the author is)
Basically the main character is a rich, fat bastard who routinely goes to this exclusive spa that is able to create a complete adult clone of him (22 yrs old, good looking and fit) and then "transfer" his consciousness into the clone. A few papers to sign, and then the clone walks out, bearing his full concioussness and legal identity. The final step in the process is to humanely dispose of the original, which in this case is actually like the 6th or 7th copy, the actual original having supposedly been euthanized years ago.
(if you haven't read this, and intend to, read no further)
So but then they don't actually dispose of him, do they? They send him to a kind of boot camp where they whip him (literally) into shape for several months. There is some wiry old bastard that seems to take sadistic delight in physically and mentally tormenting him as he goes through a 6-month hard-labor kind of training.
And then after he is 'broken' and back in some kind of useful physical shape, he is then forced into some kind of hideous assignment (the author does not go into detail, the reader is left to imagine what kind of crap they can pull on you since you have no more legal standing than a slab of beef).
Then the kicker is that the guy that whipped him into shape is none other than his original self who is now forced for the rest of his life to see his fat clones come in, having spent his money, lived his life, become enourmously fat and then created yet another clone who had no idea nor cares what happened to the former selves - so he sadistically punishes his clones for six months during their 'training'.
What was my point? Oh, yeah. When your 'essence' is transferred to another 'vessel' (bio or mech) is it really you? Heh, in this case, they were all 'him'. They all shared the same life experience at least up until the first cloning. Each of the subsequent clones lived their life knowing that they were a complete copy of the original, with the same attitudes, indifference and arrogance that the original had.
I can't help it, I think that's funny!
Thanks Chad, I do know that. My problem lately is I'm too lazy to click that box and frankly I'm a little tired of the whole karma/moderation thing. I'm just going though a period of civil disobedience after being accused of being a karma whore when all I'm doing is posting relevant comments and questions instead of just being an ass like everyone else seems to be around here anymore.
Guess it's just time to turn off scores and browse at -1 and not look at my user info page to see what replies to my comments are like. But then that kind of defeats the purpose. Dunno, maybe I just had too much for one day, you know?
Uh, no... I would guess that some one is setting up Unitek to be mailbombed and DoS'ed.
Good. Now can we finally move on?
I mean really, it's true that it was kind of a contradiction that not releasing the source for the site that openly supports open source, but the hysteria and trolling around it was too much.
So, you've won. Slash is released. Time to move on to some other all-important issue to bitch and whine about at -1 on every thread. What will it be? Where will all the complainers focus their hostility now? LinuxOne? RedHat? George Lucas? Hot grits?
Lots of (negative) energy floating around out there now without a single purpose anymore. What an opportunity to re-direct all of than onto some new life/death cause!
Sheesh.
I've noticed this trend of 1st posters being loggen in rather than AC. What is that all about? Make moderators waste 2 points instead of 1 to make it -1?
(way offtopic, better mark it down quick!)
>let's face it, if one had the potential to become a Dark Lord and kill the Jedi, don't you think that it would have sent off some vibes to warn someone???
:-)
Of course, maybe this is why Yoda resists letting him into the club at first? He senses something not quite right with the kid, can't put his finger on it, and comes up with some other excuse to deny Leeson's request to take him on as apprentice.
Of course, you can always come up with some plausible explanation for this kind of this. That's what keeps the SW newsgroups full of this kind of crap.
(barely on-topic, better moderate it down just to be safe )
Really? How does that work? I can't do that with my Panasonic DVD and my Hitachi VCR. When I got my DVD, I just wanted to hook it up by daisy-chaining it through the VCR but the signal gets all scrambled if the VCR power happens to be on. I ended up finally finding a use for that s-video terminal on my TV by buying a cable and hooking up the DVD there. Screwed up my setup though because I used to have a splitter to bring the cable direct into the ant. on the TV, send the other to the cable box and VCR that then went into video so I could tape the Soprano's off HBO and watch X-files at the same time.
(sorry, long off-topic post, please moderate it down)
Another way to go is adjustable wire shelves. I have a couple different setups in strategic locations in my house. I have a 72"high by 18" deepby 36" wide 5-shelf unit that sits on casters and is in the corner of my computer room/study that basically has my cable modem, masq box and a hub that functions as a walk-up LAN workstation and cd burning center. I got a $20 slide-out kbd that fits unser one of the shelves and a cheapo vga monitor to go with the whole deal. Think I paid like $60 at Sam's for the wire shelf kit.
I have a 72"Hx48"Wx18#D 4-shelf that I have in my converted walk-in closet that I use for the servers. I have 3 boxes sitting on the bottom shelf, the next one up has a hub and some other equipment and the other 2 are basically storage and bookshelf. This one cost a little more, maybe $150 but not nearly as much as some of the rack units I looked at that were $800 or more.
Looks good dumbass. Next time try the tag. Dumbfuck.
Really. With all your billions, don't you have anything better to do than take an hour out of your day to troll on /.?
yes, but he mentions opensource, GPL and Linux...
>we are also free to do as we please with our possessions.
Right, and I think 'possessions' is at or near the crux of the matter. If you buy a DVD, your perception of your rights to use that recorded media as you see fit ovbiously are different than what the DVD CCA would like. You want to be able to play it whenever you like on whatever device you prefer. They don't want you to play it on a device or system that they can't control and exact some kind of membership fee or other tax.
I've seen arguments back and forth about whether piracy is an issue with the prohibitive costs and bandwidth restrictions, but I think a far more compelling motivation in all this is to keep all the lisencees in lock-step and keep under their control who can manufacture systems that can play DVD CSS'ed information.
...and you forgot Gnome vs KDE and GPL vs BSD
>and, just why is this post rated score:2 ?
Because of the karma system and the moderators actions on my posts, I have a stupid amount of karma which adds a +1 to every post I make (see my new sig)
I saw that very proverb in a fortune cookie last night! Who wudda guessed!
I guess that's a good question, but isn't an injunction different than a final judgement? I thought the idea was to stop whatever is going on because you convinced the judge you are suffering irreparable harm, yet to be proven -BTW, so they shut you down until you have your day in court. Sucks, but I think that's the idea, knock it off for now until we decide if you're really breaking the law because if you are wrong, there's no way to stuff the shit back in to horse that comes out for the two years that it takes to decide the case. If you end up winning, and you've been shut down all this time, oh well- too bad.
Course, if you've wrongfully siffered financial harm because of the injunction, do you have grounds of a counter-suit?
Gee, you are 0 for 3!
(no you are not first. No you cannot think of anything intelligent to say. No, Star Wars blows goats)
>If you are doing video editing or other disk-intensive tasks, you should probably use SCSI, otherwise...
Thanks for saying this, now I don't feel as much like an idiot after reading through these posts.
I bought a SCSI drive and adapter after I ran into trouble with my PC being able to capture video over IEEE 1394 from my new digital camcorder. My PII-333 and WD udma-66/7200 drive dropped about 20% of the video frames. When I checked into this, the best advice I found was to go SCSI.
Adaptec makes a combo adapter that has Firewire as well as UW-SCSI interface (was coming up short on PCI slots) and I went with a Seagate Barracuda drive. I'm still using the IDE drive for running the machine since I've never had any trouble with it being fast enough for anything else, but now I'm using the SCSI drive to do the video capture and editing. This was an expensive way to go, but it sounds like the alternative might have been to upgrade the CPU to compensate for the IDE.
Well, that's a really good point and you may very well be right. I'm willing to be very impressed. I didn't mean to come off skeptical if that's how I sounded.