Easy, go take a modern car, start it and take the gas cap off. Leave it for a couple minutes and the CEL will turn on.
First thing any good mechanic will do who isn't trying to screw over the customer when they come in with a CEL is to check the gas cap is tight and if its not, clear the code and tell the customer to see if it comes back.
On my old car (2001 Audi S4) I had a seal on the gas cap go bad, and got a CEL until the dealer replaced the cap.
Fuel systems are, in fact, sealed when the gas cap is on, thats why they click and continue to turn now... it lets you know its tight. Go read you cap, it tells you to turn until it clicks.
The tank repressurizes via a vapor recovery system, modern cars have gas lines going from the engine, and back to the tank.
For what its worth, in less time than it took you to claim it sounds like BS you could've typed "gas cap check engine light" into Google and found pleanty of proof.
I was a big Firefly fan, but I have to take exception to that... Firefly was very well written and horribly acted. Enterprise was written -- well, like any Trek -- and is acceptably acted.
And seeing T'Pol with just her undies on makes up for any of the bad acting!
I know this post will get lost in the 300 other posts already put here, but for the information of those who might read it, the issue of filling up with the car running is an environmental one.
With the advent of OBD and check engine lights, one thing cars have to monitor is pressure in the fueling system. If the engine is on, and the sensors detect a leak in the fuel system, the check engine light comes on. Leaving the engine running with the cap off will do the same thing. There's no fire risk as a result of fueling the car with the engine running.
Well if one buys the evidence that the Chinese did in fact get to the Americas before the Europeans, and they did, in fact, produce the original charts that were the basis for the charts used by the Portuguese (sp?) to nagivate to North America, and the records of what resources were there to actually motivate those trips, then that makes the Chinese exploration massively important.
Either the Chinese didn't get here, and you're absolutely right, or they did and they were of primary importance to the exploration that followed. The fact that its existance, if it happened, wasn't understood until recently and the fact that, if true, the Europeans were going to American knowing it was there and what they would fine wasn't fully understood until recently is irrelavent to its significance. Lots of critically important discovery over the centuries has inspired later discovery, and the sheer importance of the original was not appreciated until much later.
If he thinks those three Italians were, regardless of what we're taught in Kindergarten, at all significant in the history of global exploration, he needs to do a lot more reading.
When you were the first to perform a voyage of discovery like that, thats significant. Of course they weren't... the Chinese, Vikings and others of course were doing it long before.
When you set out as a representative of your country to explore, well thats significant I guess to your country. But we all know the history around Columbus and who was supporting him, right? Being the first of your people to get somewhere when it was an accident of timing isn't all that significant either.
And all of that is completely ignoring the (hotly contested, but significant enough to be interesting) evidence that Columbus set sail knowing exactly what he was going to find, with charts of the Carribean and Gulf of Mexico drawn by people who had already been there.
I think if you were going to honor the nationality of the people who really were the first to do global exploration in an organized manner by having them land on Mars first, it would be the Chinese, not the Italians.
And, the way China is moving with their space program, that might just happen.
If an advertisement works on two people, and irritates you, then they might as well run the ad. And 33% of the people out there don't get their panties in a knot over advertisements.
No flame here, you've got a valid opinion, but I can assure you no one who is deciding how, when and where to advertise cares.
What happened is people on/. repeatedly demonstrating they don't understand how patents work.
Every later claim narrows the scope of the patent. You always cover it in a broad stroke with the first claim, and keep narrowing down what it is you're actually patenting with each additional claim.
I'm no expert, but I always assumed it was a way to be able to rapidly determine if a patent impacts an item you're searching for prior patents on. Ie, if you have a player application and it doesn't have those panes working in that way, then you don't need to keep reading, you aren't violating this patent.
Its like determing if you've got a troll on/.
1) Is a person 2) Is on the internet 3) Reads technical websites 4) Reads Slashdot 5) Posts on Slashdot 6) Posts to enflame on Slashdot
If you get to claim #3 and its not true, then you aren't infringing the troll patent.:)
For what its worth my old gas guzzling 300+hp twin turbocharged 165mph+ Audi S4 would get upper 20's MPG on the highway, and is so clean people have passed emissions tests running straight pipes (ie, no catalytic converters at all).
Modern engine design means MOST gasoline engines today qualify as LEV or SULEV.
I'm repeating the question prior to answering it, so you're right, I am responding to the question I posed, or rather based on the suggested question of the story submission.
Here's one reason why...
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Why would stores not want you having a phone with you?
I take pics with mine a lot -- most of the time they're cutsie pics to send to my girlfriend of interesting things I see. The one real useful thing I do with it is snap pictures of things I see in a store I want to look up online later and get for cheaper.
There have been more than one book I've snapped a photo of so I could look up later.
Now, its kind of stupid to blame the use of the phone since I could write them down too, but maybe thats their logic.
Laser rot has been a known significant problem with laserdiscs since the early 80's.
I've only got one or two CDs I've found with rot, but a number of laserdiscs do.
Annoying.
I bought a CDR back in 1996 or so ($1k for a 1x CDR drive!)... ironically all the CDR's I burned back then I can still read, but I've got several DVD-R's that have already gone bad in less than a year, and a good number of more recent cheap-o CDR discs that have gone bad.
Moral is, rot happens, and buy the higher end discs for important stuff.
Your friend needs to try driving it harder. Its easy to make the battery run out of juice... keep your foot down to the floor for a mile or so. When that juice is gone, the car is slower than a busted down Geo Metro.
FWIW, I've never seen them located there, usually I've seen them located along the upper edge of the hood, on the drivers side but there'll be a decal wherever it is indicating where the power cut-off switch is. Usually the external one is just a cable running to an internal one the driver can reach.
Most sanctioning bodies require a power cut off and a fire system trigger, both externally and internally accessible.
I'd also say its probably 50/50 on battery placement in production-based race cars that would have a trunk/boot. I've seen as many with them up front as in the rear, and I've seen pleanty with sealed batteries in the cabin itself.
Last year, the Rallye International de Quebec, up in Quebec City (which I'm sure most of you could've guessed from the name), had a Toyota Prius rally car running. Toyota was doing in the CARS series to show off that their hybrids could hold up to that kind of abuse.
The car sucked... badly... in almost all of the stages, because it was really fast for the first mile or two until it ran out of battery, and then the dinky motor wouldn't be able to give it enough power to keep up with anyone.
There was one stage at the hippodrome, though, where they were running a mile or so course on a twisty infield and part of a horse track. It was very competitive on there. It was so surreal though to have one roaring rally car after another go flying by, and then when the Prius ran, the first car went screaming by, followed a bit later by the Prius -- where all you could hear was the tires on the dirt/gravel.
They still have credit card debt because they never bothered to do the math.
The vast majority of dual income families have less free income at the end of the month that those same families would have if one of them stayed home.
Child care, added vehicle costs, more days of takeout food for dinner all adds up, quickly. Very few dual income families have the lower of the two incomes actually high enough to come out ahead, completely ignoring the factors around the happiness of their children, their own personal happiness, etc.
Aluminum block V8's are fairly light, as light as a small 4 or 6 cyl turbo iron block motor... something us classic 911 owners know very well. A common (frowned upon) swap is a small aluminum block V8 into a 911, and the engine weight is basically the same as compared to a very small displacement six.
Secondly, although I can't read the slashdotted site, I'd hazard a guess the engine swap was to be able to use a Subie transmission more than anything else... so you can drive the car with the front wheels and use the driveshaft going to the rear differential to drive it in the water.
Could be totally off-base, but thats how I'd do it, and would be why I'd consider that sort of a transplant in that case.
People have started putting those Subaru engines in 911's, too... they fit very nicely and have lots of very reliable power.
Actually for tools, Home Depot and the warehouse stores like Costco are great places, too.
The Huskey brand tools are made with the same dies in the same factory as the Craftsman tools... and the Mastercraft are the same as another top-name brand, although I don't recall which one.
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I've driven enough autocross courses where I swear the cones have moved between runs, I suspect these have been around for years.
Either that or cone shaggers can't manage to put them back at the same place every time.
Actually, its not terribly hard to get a home-built car registered, there are very few restrictions on it... most state DMV/RMV's can provide you with a list of specific items they require, and you have to get it more carefully inspected.
People do it all the time.
Google is your friend, it would've told you that with a quick search.
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Easy, go take a modern car, start it and take the gas cap off. Leave it for a couple minutes and the CEL will turn on.
First thing any good mechanic will do who isn't trying to screw over the customer when they come in with a CEL is to check the gas cap is tight and if its not, clear the code and tell the customer to see if it comes back.
On my old car (2001 Audi S4) I had a seal on the gas cap go bad, and got a CEL until the dealer replaced the cap.
Fuel systems are, in fact, sealed when the gas cap is on, thats why they click and continue to turn now... it lets you know its tight. Go read you cap, it tells you to turn until it clicks.
The tank repressurizes via a vapor recovery system, modern cars have gas lines going from the engine, and back to the tank.
For what its worth, in less time than it took you to claim it sounds like BS you could've typed "gas cap check engine light" into Google and found pleanty of proof.
I was a big Firefly fan, but I have to take exception to that... Firefly was very well written and horribly acted. Enterprise was written -- well, like any Trek -- and is acceptably acted.
And seeing T'Pol with just her undies on makes up for any of the bad acting!
I know this post will get lost in the 300 other posts already put here, but for the information of those who might read it, the issue of filling up with the car running is an environmental one.
With the advent of OBD and check engine lights, one thing cars have to monitor is pressure in the fueling system. If the engine is on, and the sensors detect a leak in the fuel system, the check engine light comes on. Leaving the engine running with the cap off will do the same thing. There's no fire risk as a result of fueling the car with the engine running.
Well if one buys the evidence that the Chinese did in fact get to the Americas before the Europeans, and they did, in fact, produce the original charts that were the basis for the charts used by the Portuguese (sp?) to nagivate to North America, and the records of what resources were there to actually motivate those trips, then that makes the Chinese exploration massively important.
Either the Chinese didn't get here, and you're absolutely right, or they did and they were of primary importance to the exploration that followed. The fact that its existance, if it happened, wasn't understood until recently and the fact that, if true, the Europeans were going to American knowing it was there and what they would fine wasn't fully understood until recently is irrelavent to its significance. Lots of critically important discovery over the centuries has inspired later discovery, and the sheer importance of the original was not appreciated until much later.
If he thinks those three Italians were, regardless of what we're taught in Kindergarten, at all significant in the history of global exploration, he needs to do a lot more reading.
When you were the first to perform a voyage of discovery like that, thats significant. Of course they weren't... the Chinese, Vikings and others of course were doing it long before.
When you set out as a representative of your country to explore, well thats significant I guess to your country. But we all know the history around Columbus and who was supporting him, right? Being the first of your people to get somewhere when it was an accident of timing isn't all that significant either.
And all of that is completely ignoring the (hotly contested, but significant enough to be interesting) evidence that Columbus set sail knowing exactly what he was going to find, with charts of the Carribean and Gulf of Mexico drawn by people who had already been there.
I think if you were going to honor the nationality of the people who really were the first to do global exploration in an organized manner by having them land on Mars first, it would be the Chinese, not the Italians.
And, the way China is moving with their space program, that might just happen.
I almost always blame it on the UPS.
If an advertisement works on two people, and irritates you, then they might as well run the ad. And 33% of the people out there don't get their panties in a knot over advertisements.
No flame here, you've got a valid opinion, but I can assure you no one who is deciding how, when and where to advertise cares.
Or use AdBlock. I haven't seen an ad anywhere online in months, including on /.
What happened is people on /. repeatedly demonstrating they don't understand how patents work.
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Every later claim narrows the scope of the patent. You always cover it in a broad stroke with the first claim, and keep narrowing down what it is you're actually patenting with each additional claim.
I'm no expert, but I always assumed it was a way to be able to rapidly determine if a patent impacts an item you're searching for prior patents on. Ie, if you have a player application and it doesn't have those panes working in that way, then you don't need to keep reading, you aren't violating this patent.
Its like determing if you've got a troll on
1) Is a person
2) Is on the internet
3) Reads technical websites
4) Reads Slashdot
5) Posts on Slashdot
6) Posts to enflame on Slashdot
If you get to claim #3 and its not true, then you aren't infringing the troll patent.
For what its worth my old gas guzzling 300+hp twin turbocharged 165mph+ Audi S4 would get upper 20's MPG on the highway, and is so clean people have passed emissions tests running straight pipes (ie, no catalytic converters at all).
Modern engine design means MOST gasoline engines today qualify as LEV or SULEV.
Bet you a dollar the first one was for something kinky.
I'm repeating the question prior to answering it, so you're right, I am responding to the question I posed, or rather based on the suggested question of the story submission.
Why would stores not want you having a phone with you?
I take pics with mine a lot -- most of the time they're cutsie pics to send to my girlfriend of interesting things I see. The one real useful thing I do with it is snap pictures of things I see in a store I want to look up online later and get for cheaper.
There have been more than one book I've snapped a photo of so I could look up later.
Now, its kind of stupid to blame the use of the phone since I could write them down too, but maybe thats their logic.
It did solve mine.
I just fowarded all of them to my gmail account/ Problem solved.
Now if only I could get all my old archives in there.
Laser rot has been a known significant problem with laserdiscs since the early 80's.
I've only got one or two CDs I've found with rot, but a number of laserdiscs do.
Annoying.
I bought a CDR back in 1996 or so ($1k for a 1x CDR drive!)... ironically all the CDR's I burned back then I can still read, but I've got several DVD-R's that have already gone bad in less than a year, and a good number of more recent cheap-o CDR discs that have gone bad.
Moral is, rot happens, and buy the higher end discs for important stuff.
Your friend needs to try driving it harder. Its easy to make the battery run out of juice... keep your foot down to the floor for a mile or so. When that juice is gone, the car is slower than a busted down Geo Metro.
FWIW, I've never seen them located there, usually I've seen them located along the upper edge of the hood, on the drivers side but there'll be a decal wherever it is indicating where the power cut-off switch is. Usually the external one is just a cable running to an internal one the driver can reach.
Most sanctioning bodies require a power cut off and a fire system trigger, both externally and internally accessible.
I'd also say its probably 50/50 on battery placement in production-based race cars that would have a trunk/boot. I've seen as many with them up front as in the rear, and I've seen pleanty with sealed batteries in the cabin itself.
Last year, the Rallye International de Quebec, up in Quebec City (which I'm sure most of you could've guessed from the name), had a Toyota Prius rally car running. Toyota was doing in the CARS series to show off that their hybrids could hold up to that kind of abuse.
The car sucked... badly... in almost all of the stages, because it was really fast for the first mile or two until it ran out of battery, and then the dinky motor wouldn't be able to give it enough power to keep up with anyone.
There was one stage at the hippodrome, though, where they were running a mile or so course on a twisty infield and part of a horse track. It was very competitive on there. It was so surreal though to have one roaring rally car after another go flying by, and then when the Prius ran, the first car went screaming by, followed a bit later by the Prius -- where all you could hear was the tires on the dirt/gravel.
They still have credit card debt because they never bothered to do the math.
The vast majority of dual income families have less free income at the end of the month that those same families would have if one of them stayed home.
Child care, added vehicle costs, more days of takeout food for dinner all adds up, quickly. Very few dual income families have the lower of the two incomes actually high enough to come out ahead, completely ignoring the factors around the happiness of their children, their own personal happiness, etc.
There's this place down the road from me, I hear, where you can outsource punching the monkey.
Oh wait, you said punching. Nevermind.
Aluminum block V8's are fairly light, as light as a small 4 or 6 cyl turbo iron block motor... something us classic 911 owners know very well. A common (frowned upon) swap is a small aluminum block V8 into a 911, and the engine weight is basically the same as compared to a very small displacement six.
Secondly, although I can't read the slashdotted site, I'd hazard a guess the engine swap was to be able to use a Subie transmission more than anything else... so you can drive the car with the front wheels and use the driveshaft going to the rear differential to drive it in the water.
Could be totally off-base, but thats how I'd do it, and would be why I'd consider that sort of a transplant in that case.
People have started putting those Subaru engines in 911's, too... they fit very nicely and have lots of very reliable power.
Actually for tools, Home Depot and the warehouse stores like Costco are great places, too.
The Huskey brand tools are made with the same dies in the same factory as the Craftsman tools... and the Mastercraft are the same as another top-name brand, although I don't recall which one.
I've driven enough autocross courses where I swear the cones have moved between runs, I suspect these have been around for years.
Either that or cone shaggers can't manage to put them back at the same place every time.
Never said I was terribly organized :)
It'll never happen?
Actually, its not terribly hard to get a home-built car registered, there are very few restrictions on it... most state DMV/RMV's can provide you with a list of specific items they require, and you have to get it more carefully inspected.
People do it all the time.
Google is your friend, it would've told you that with a quick search.