If you want to order lobster in a restaurant they will still charge "Market Price."
That's what you want -- market price this year was dirt cheap. You could get them for $4/lbs in grocery stores, and it was common to find twin lobster deals in the $10-$12 range. The places that were still expensive were the places that had fixed lobster pricing.
I did my part, on a budget, for dealing with this overpopulation.
As much as I'd love to bash on Microsoft for a while, I must say that there seems to be some FUD floating around here. You have reviewers generally praising the hardware and the OS while at the same time advising readers to stay away because of the struggling App ecosystem. Good luck attracting developers that way.
Seems to me that MS could drop the price to make it a loss-leader and watch them fly off the the shelves, if they wanted.
There's both FUD and just plain stupidity.
The Surface is available online -- where no one can touch it before buying -- and in about 30 Microsoft stores. Nowhere else. The bizarre thing is that anyone would've expected huge sales numbers. You basically have 30 places people can actually touch one before buying it. I'd also bet 99% of the people who will reply in this thread will have never laid a finger on one, either.
These posts are just as ignorant as the (exactly opposite of reality) "ZOMG Windows8 isn't selling" posts that have happened a few times in the last few weeks on here. People think a device with deliberately limited retail availability is a failure for not selling as much as devices you can buy at Best Buy, just like people don't seem to get that PC sales don't matter a squat to Microsoft. If 40 million people upgrade to Win8 instead of buying a new computer, that hurts Dell and HP, not Microsoft.
IMO, its the stupidification of the media and the consumers of the media. Just as Fox learned it can make any shit up it wants and its rabid followers will shut their brains off and eat it up, so have places like Slashdot.
The hood is part of the structural strength of the vehicle.
What if you printed a hood from plastic that shattered? And you had a crash, and sharp plastic shards penetrated the windscreen and impaled you, "Omen" style?
That's not just wrong, its ridiculously wrong. The hood isn't remotely structural, in any form, in any vehicle. And no plastic shard is going to come from the hood and through the windshield and impale you. Ever.
Windows Store apps. Those are.NET-based, and run on the Windows RT runtime,
They are not necessarily.NET based..NET is an option, but so is HTML5/JS and C++ (and combinations thereof). If it includes C++, then obviously those bits have to be compiled differently for different platforms.
C++ has always been a supported target language for.NET applications. And HTML5/JS are effectively layers on top of.NET in Store applications (you can access.NET constructs from them)
"although it won’t be able to run apps developed for Windows RT, unless the developers in question also built a version of their app for Windows 8—you really can’t get here from there"
It means the author was an idiot.
Windows RT only supports one kind of application that isn't signed with a Microsoft code signing key -- Windows Store apps. Those are.NET-based, and run on the Windows RT runtime, which is the core of "metro" apps on both platforms. Apps that work on ARM will work on Intel Windows 8, but the opposite may not be true.
I thought RT used.net and thus the software would be supported on both arm and x86.
The biggest problem I see with the surface pro, is that it is a tablet with no tablet software, because it can't run RT software. So it is a niche marked, even within the niche windows tablet marked.
It runs Microsoft Store apps just fine, just like every other Windows 8 computer.
I've had a few customers with trojans, from like 2009 and MS Sec. Essentials doesn't detect them with a quick scan. Only after a full scan did it see them. These machines always had MSE running and up to date.
It's unfortunate that so many software companies write software such that it requires admin access or we could avoid so much of these infections.
Sounds like you need better software. I can't remember the last time I ran anything that needed admin rights, with the single exception of Visual Studio when I was doing something that required escalated privileges (loading drivers, etc).
Seriously, anything you pick, at all, will need ongoing long-term maintenance, security monitoring, etc... the only thing worse than no system is an abandoned system.
If the town thinks its valuable, they should fund it appropriately (no matter what technology you use). Or get the scouts to run a bake sale or something.
But I think there will be many more winners than losers.
Maybe.
But here's the thing, the economists say that the pie gets bigger and as a result, everyone's living standards increase.
That's because they're economists and work in theories, not realities. Economics is zero sum because there's an effective limit on productivity and resources. Only localized economic interactions can be non-zero-sum.
Americans are rich because much of the world is poor. America's standard of living is declining for a simple reason -- a lot less of the world is as crushingly poor. Those people want their resources, and want to own more. In fact, America's standard of living would be vastly lower if there hadn't been massive reductions in the costs of producing much of what its population consumes through automation, miniaturization, computing, etc.
The only way to make everyone live a "western" lifestyle is to reduce the costs of everything we consume in the west such that the economic power the rest of the world has can afford it -- you can't magically make everyone able to consume resources and productivity at the same rate as people do in "western" societies. I can buy a pretty nice flatscreen for a mornings' worth of work. If the global average wage's "mornings worth of work" is, say, $10... for everyone to be able to do that, you need to be able to process resources and labor from the ground to their house at that price... effectively getting the man-hours of labor to build a TV from the rawest of materials to the house down to four hours of work.
The economy, globally, depends on poverty to maintain growth. The only way you'll ever change that is to get off the planet so we're not resource constrained, and have nano-scale manufacturing that utilizes effectively no human resources, and virtually no energy resources. Otherwise its a complete fantasy to think US standards of living can ever rise again unless a lot more people either decide to be happy in crushing poverty or are forced into it.
I think movies are more personal than objective. I don't really watch movies because their artistic, I watch them because I like to imagine myself as part of the experience.
That works better with things like porn and anything with Scarlett Johansson, not so much for things like Saving Private Ryan and anything with Will Farrell.
Good point, though that only works for planets with a day/night cycle and aliens depending on sight during night.
And life that relies on sight at all. Life was on Earth a very long time without being sensitive to EM radiation. The majority of life on Earth still doesn't, to any significant effect. And there are comparatively intelligent creatures that rely predominantly on echolocation.
The only thing Windows Phone lacks right now is apps.
And a reason to buy one. Will my apps still work on WP9, or will they have to be rewritten because Microsoft changed their development model again? Will there be a WP9, or will it follow the ZuneHD 2 into the void?
You do realize that virtually all WP7 apps run fine on WP8, right? And the ones that don't, for the most part, are because of mis-implementation or they were among the "special" set of apps allowed to use native code? The opposite is not true, but last I checked the majority of iOS5 apps don't run on iOS4 anymore. Upgrades happen.
WTF? Slashdot is referencing a comment on Geekwire as a basis for people installing Linux? How low can it go? Idiot submitters like theodp and symbolset are turning Slashdot into a anti-Microsoft tabloid rather than any place for serious discussion. Not surprising that people with half a brain are ditching Slashdot in droves in disgust.
it was a cheap buy and they will be sorely disappointed when it runs like crap a year from now.
I know several people who bought very cheap netbooks and were very happy with them for a number of years. Heck, I still use my ageing eee 900 daily.
Cheap doesn't mean bad or badly built. Not everyone needs a 64 processor monster to surf the web.
And, in my experience (admittedly limited to a small number of older netbooks like my Dell Mini9), Win8 runs better on it than 7 or XP did, although it can take a bit of driver fiddling.
They get 22+ miles per kWh, which is insanely good.
Impossibly good, its probably a math or recording error. To do that they'd need to maintain 22mph with only a touch more than 1hp of equivalent power usage, for an hour. The Leaf weighs 3400lbs, you couldn't get it up to speed or maintain its speed with so little power. And you'd have to be doing even better than that, if that is the average. I don't know what the current draw is of all the electronics in the car, either, but that is consumed power, too. I'd bet, best case, its still 1/4 of that being used just to keep the systems in the car running.
As has been stated in other posts, every level of abstraction away from the act of violence removes a layer of conscience from the execution of the act; whether it be robots, drone strikes, or trigger-happy, 60 year-old politicians who ducked service in Vietnam.
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A golden shower, one might say.
If you want to order lobster in a restaurant they will still charge "Market Price."
That's what you want -- market price this year was dirt cheap. You could get them for $4/lbs in grocery stores, and it was common to find twin lobster deals in the $10-$12 range. The places that were still expensive were the places that had fixed lobster pricing.
I did my part, on a budget, for dealing with this overpopulation.
As much as I'd love to bash on Microsoft for a while, I must say that there seems to be some FUD floating around here. You have reviewers generally praising the hardware and the OS while at the same time advising readers to stay away because of the struggling App ecosystem. Good luck attracting developers that way.
Seems to me that MS could drop the price to make it a loss-leader and watch them fly off the the shelves, if they wanted.
There's both FUD and just plain stupidity.
The Surface is available online -- where no one can touch it before buying -- and in about 30 Microsoft stores. Nowhere else. The bizarre thing is that anyone would've expected huge sales numbers. You basically have 30 places people can actually touch one before buying it. I'd also bet 99% of the people who will reply in this thread will have never laid a finger on one, either.
These posts are just as ignorant as the (exactly opposite of reality) "ZOMG Windows8 isn't selling" posts that have happened a few times in the last few weeks on here. People think a device with deliberately limited retail availability is a failure for not selling as much as devices you can buy at Best Buy, just like people don't seem to get that PC sales don't matter a squat to Microsoft. If 40 million people upgrade to Win8 instead of buying a new computer, that hurts Dell and HP, not Microsoft.
IMO, its the stupidification of the media and the consumers of the media. Just as Fox learned it can make any shit up it wants and its rabid followers will shut their brains off and eat it up, so have places like Slashdot.
It seems illogical because everything in the submission is either made up, or twisted to drive ad revenue. Like most stories on /. these days...
The hood is part of the structural strength of the vehicle.
What if you printed a hood from plastic that shattered? And you had a crash, and sharp plastic shards penetrated the windscreen and impaled you, "Omen" style?
That's not just wrong, its ridiculously wrong. The hood isn't remotely structural, in any form, in any vehicle. And no plastic shard is going to come from the hood and through the windshield and impale you. Ever.
Windows Store apps. Those are .NET-based, and run on the Windows RT runtime,
They are not necessarily .NET based. .NET is an option, but so is HTML5/JS and C++ (and combinations thereof). If it includes C++, then obviously those bits have to be compiled differently for different platforms.
C++ has always been a supported target language for .NET applications. And HTML5/JS are effectively layers on top of .NET in Store applications (you can access .NET constructs from them)
So what does the following from the article mean:
"although it won’t be able to run apps developed for Windows RT, unless the developers in question also built a version of their app for Windows 8—you really can’t get here from there"
It means the author was an idiot.
Windows RT only supports one kind of application that isn't signed with a Microsoft code signing key -- Windows Store apps. Those are .NET-based, and run on the Windows RT runtime, which is the core of "metro" apps on both platforms. Apps that work on ARM will work on Intel Windows 8, but the opposite may not be true.
Why can't it run software for Windows 8 RT?
I thought RT used .net and thus the software would be supported on both arm and x86.
The biggest problem I see with the surface pro, is that it is a tablet with no tablet software, because it can't run RT software. So it is a niche marked, even within the niche windows tablet marked.
It runs Microsoft Store apps just fine, just like every other Windows 8 computer.
And once queued, we'll cue them one by one.
I've had a few customers with trojans, from like 2009 and MS Sec. Essentials doesn't detect them with a quick scan. Only after a full scan did it see them.
These machines always had MSE running and up to date.
It's unfortunate that so many software companies write software such that it requires admin access or we could avoid so much of these infections.
Sounds like you need better software. I can't remember the last time I ran anything that needed admin rights, with the single exception of Visual Studio when I was doing something that required escalated privileges (loading drivers, etc).
If you have no budget, keep it all on paper.
Seriously, anything you pick, at all, will need ongoing long-term maintenance, security monitoring, etc ... the only thing worse than no system is an abandoned system.
If the town thinks its valuable, they should fund it appropriately (no matter what technology you use). Or get the scouts to run a bake sale or something.
I was worried it was going to have Quake-like graphics, but really the art form peaked with Doom.
But I think there will be many more winners than losers.
Maybe.
But here's the thing, the economists say that the pie gets bigger and as a result, everyone's living standards increase.
That's because they're economists and work in theories, not realities. Economics is zero sum because there's an effective limit on productivity and resources. Only localized economic interactions can be non-zero-sum.
Americans are rich because much of the world is poor. America's standard of living is declining for a simple reason -- a lot less of the world is as crushingly poor. Those people want their resources, and want to own more. In fact, America's standard of living would be vastly lower if there hadn't been massive reductions in the costs of producing much of what its population consumes through automation, miniaturization, computing, etc.
The only way to make everyone live a "western" lifestyle is to reduce the costs of everything we consume in the west such that the economic power the rest of the world has can afford it -- you can't magically make everyone able to consume resources and productivity at the same rate as people do in "western" societies. I can buy a pretty nice flatscreen for a mornings' worth of work. If the global average wage's "mornings worth of work" is, say, $10... for everyone to be able to do that, you need to be able to process resources and labor from the ground to their house at that price... effectively getting the man-hours of labor to build a TV from the rawest of materials to the house down to four hours of work.
The economy, globally, depends on poverty to maintain growth. The only way you'll ever change that is to get off the planet so we're not resource constrained, and have nano-scale manufacturing that utilizes effectively no human resources, and virtually no energy resources. Otherwise its a complete fantasy to think US standards of living can ever rise again unless a lot more people either decide to be happy in crushing poverty or are forced into it.
What happens when corporations can no longer exploit global wage differences?
You make less. A LOT less.
I think movies are more personal than objective. I don't really watch movies because their artistic, I watch them because I like to imagine myself as part of the experience.
That works better with things like porn and anything with Scarlett Johansson, not so much for things like Saving Private Ryan and anything with Will Farrell.
Good point, though that only works for planets with a day/night cycle and aliens depending on sight during night.
And life that relies on sight at all. Life was on Earth a very long time without being sensitive to EM radiation. The majority of life on Earth still doesn't, to any significant effect. And there are comparatively intelligent creatures that rely predominantly on echolocation.
oie! Kids! Keep it down and get off mah lawn! (sorry finally found someone with higher UIDs than me to do that to).
Hmph
The only thing Windows Phone lacks right now is apps.
And a reason to buy one. Will my apps still work on WP9, or will they have to be rewritten because Microsoft changed their development model again? Will there be a WP9, or will it follow the ZuneHD 2 into the void?
You do realize that virtually all WP7 apps run fine on WP8, right? And the ones that don't, for the most part, are because of mis-implementation or they were among the "special" set of apps allowed to use native code? The opposite is not true, but last I checked the majority of iOS5 apps don't run on iOS4 anymore. Upgrades happen.
WTF? Slashdot is referencing a comment on Geekwire as a basis for people installing Linux? How low can it go? Idiot submitters like theodp and symbolset are turning Slashdot into a anti-Microsoft tabloid rather than any place for serious discussion. Not surprising that people with half a brain are ditching Slashdot in droves in disgust.
You must be new here.
it was a cheap buy and they will be sorely disappointed when it runs like crap a year from now.
I know several people who bought very cheap netbooks and were very happy with them for a number of years. Heck, I still use my ageing eee 900 daily.
Cheap doesn't mean bad or badly built. Not everyone needs a 64 processor monster to surf the web.
And, in my experience (admittedly limited to a small number of older netbooks like my Dell Mini9), Win8 runs better on it than 7 or XP did, although it can take a bit of driver fiddling.
They get 22+ miles per kWh, which is insanely good.
Impossibly good, its probably a math or recording error. To do that they'd need to maintain 22mph with only a touch more than 1hp of equivalent power usage, for an hour. The Leaf weighs 3400lbs, you couldn't get it up to speed or maintain its speed with so little power. And you'd have to be doing even better than that, if that is the average. I don't know what the current draw is of all the electronics in the car, either, but that is consumed power, too. I'd bet, best case, its still 1/4 of that being used just to keep the systems in the car running.
Same thing, different configuration options.
Problem is, they're compile-time, not run-time.
Clearly the investigator saved $500 on his car insurance.
I predict that the results are accurate, but not nearly as exciting as media is trying to get us to believe.
Fixed that for you.
As has been stated in other posts, every level of abstraction away from the act of violence removes a layer of conscience from the execution of the act; whether it be robots, drone strikes, or trigger-happy, 60 year-old politicians who ducked service in Vietnam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
I can't tell you how often, when reading Slashdot, I wish I had one of those buttons ... forget modding down, I'll just shock 'em!