>he is to blame for selling it
Yes. >His action of selling it caused this
Nah.
We get enough causality bullshit from the justice system, thanks. I'm no friend of Big ISP, but they aren't "enabling terrorism and child porn" by providing people connectivity. Besides, you and I are commoners and don't get to exploit the fallacy for our agendas, that's reserved for our righteous betters with Authority And Power.
I chose my handle 20 years ago when picking out a name for a video game (Secret of Evermore). I had no idea it had linguistic ties in most of Europe's languages. To this day I have mixed feelings about the glory-or-not of running around on the internet as "penis".
>try to tell people
FTFY. Turns out I own the fucking client machine and I decide what it fucking does, including which documents and data I fetch/render.
If you think there's an obligation involved, demand agreement, THEN you can demand participation. Better still if you wall access - in the rest of the proprietary world, they don't unconditionally broadcast "conditional" data.
The devices were put in free-game mode. Granted, maybe not every admin was aware of the fact (more like "not still employed") but that doesn't change the reality of the first point.
The devices were put in free-game mode, possibly with the awareness that Some Punk Kid might do something obnoxious, and thus ruin it for everyone by breaking the Have Nice Things implied-truce. A risk to acknowledge and accept because some of us are just fucking nice and do shit like that anyway, strange as that may seem to the modern American mind. I'm pretty sure lots "art experiments" go even further about exposed stuff..
THIS is the obligatory XKCD, which is to say weev did something permitted but is still a dick. It even reminds us that society has ways of reacting; laws from a nanny state are appropriate for crimes but not for correcting manner. https://xkcd.com/1499/
While this sounds like whiny bitchy hyperbole, it's worth remembering that garbage will naturally be easier to retain in a catalog, it won't take premium negotiating to get/keep rights to it.
Any given system over time is only going to be reconfigured over time to favor those with power. By those with power. In capitalism, power being money.
This drift may be too subtle to notice, but it's obvious if you ponder the effect's foundation, not the effect's subtlety.
I'm not trying to be moralistic, even the benefactors may be unaware in cases where it's just a natural consequence of the imbalance.
This same line of reasoning identifies that giving more/all control to the financial services (banks) will see drift from the lopsided influence, the only debatable point being how much.
>every time some idiot gets ketchuped
bwahahahaha omg
Seriously though, trains are an icon of relative safety. Is there a phrase that umbrellas 21st century fear hyperbole? We have no problem with letting everyderp drive a thousand kilos of speeding metal, we sell them daily smoking and drinking, and yet we spend billions on useless TSA because we demand theater. A child is vastly more likely to have a heart attack than be kidnapped by a stranger, yet we (reasonably) disregard the former's risk.
To the point, I want a buzzword for the hype we manufacture with FUD and episodes of CSI. Sometimes deliberately, to sell tiger-repelling rocks.
Might've been possible 100 years ago. But yeah, today, forget about it.
It's like how you can't uninvent a new tech, something that Our Wealthier Betters have often gnashed and wailed about in futility, when it costs them profits - if their kicking and screaming didn't work, what chance do we have?
If an ISP can be hammered for providing an internet connection ("enabling piracy") we can certainly blame a website for what the third party did.
Real talk though, precedent or not these wide-net causality chains are bullshit. It's arbitrarily applied, which is another way of saying "weaponized against anyone that lacks power/authority/money/lawyers".
>he can't because he has committed a bunch of crimes
He couldn't as John Doe. If a headline screams "no longer incognito" then it follows he previously was.
But John Doe couldn't claim to be author of sketchier accomplishments, and Razvan decided he needed their double-edged merit.
I won't claim those were "right" or "wrong", or even opine on the wisdom-or-not of this latest move.
You can't win, but you can muck it up. Fortunately, the involved systems will usually be indirectly connected at best, or outright competitors, or the data certainly exists in two piles but the draw'able conclusions from their overlap can't be made because the two data dumps aren't compatible (yet).
It's kind of like how the last bastion for commoners is the supercompanies (and governments) holding each other back. Or kind of like living with an incurable disease, but one of symptoms you can somewhat respond to.
As time passes, yes, these lines will blur. It's bad now, it'll be worse later. And culture won't adapt at the same pace, culture tends to need generations to repropagate.
Shit, even turning Location off might not actually be working.
Some Android builds (mine came with Oxygen) natively give you some amount of permissions control, denying apps granular access, like access to camera or location. I'm guessing 5.0+ can do it, if OEM enables. I don't really know this stuff.
Thank you for your informative efforts, sister posts. Perhaps together we can figure out why the surface dwellers worship the Kardashian. Their religious texts don't indicate any sort of grand events, legends, or accomplishments, biblical or otherwise, that would prompt the exhaustive rituals and culture.
But the Kardashian phenomenon (not sure if sacred location, diety, or artifact) has a net worth of over 9000, so _clearly_ there must be something of value for me to find.
>She has a net worth of over $100 million.
>I don't think she is as dumb as you think she is.
I can't say much because I'm not an expert on this subject: It's 2016 and I still don't know what a Kardashian is.
>Compares It To Piracy
Huh. Usually when we mention the slippery slope it's in future tense, not past tense.
>if people don't pay in some way for content, then that content will eventually no longer exist
Sure, sure, let's see if music ceases to exist, let's see if no one makes music and it goes extinct.
>spent money on maintenance, superfluous employees
All I hear is a robot voice saying "OPTIMIZING..."
$5/hr humans are going to look expensive when an unpaid robot can lay the brick, hell, can assemble the fucking wash system itself.
It's not here now, no, but 99.9% of Earth's descendants are fucked. I might complain about the shit deals my generation got, but I'm glad I dodged the post-labor bullet.
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>gross negligence
At best. This is an inch of intent away from deliberate misinformation. Malice. That's with benefit of the doubt.
>he is to blame for selling it
Yes.
>His action of selling it caused this
Nah.
We get enough causality bullshit from the justice system, thanks. I'm no friend of Big ISP, but they aren't "enabling terrorism and child porn" by providing people connectivity. Besides, you and I are commoners and don't get to exploit the fallacy for our agendas, that's reserved for our righteous betters with Authority And Power.
I chose my handle 20 years ago when picking out a name for a video game (Secret of Evermore). I had no idea it had linguistic ties in most of Europe's languages. To this day I have mixed feelings about the glory-or-not of running around on the internet as "penis".
>try to tell people
FTFY. Turns out I own the fucking client machine and I decide what it fucking does, including which documents and data I fetch/render.
If you think there's an obligation involved, demand agreement, THEN you can demand participation. Better still if you wall access - in the rest of the proprietary world, they don't unconditionally broadcast "conditional" data.
>that decided they're owed family support /s is hidden.
Although I feel like a
The devices were put in free-game mode. Granted, maybe not every admin was aware of the fact (more like "not still employed") but that doesn't change the reality of the first point.
The devices were put in free-game mode, possibly with the awareness that Some Punk Kid might do something obnoxious, and thus ruin it for everyone by breaking the Have Nice Things implied-truce. A risk to acknowledge and accept because some of us are just fucking nice and do shit like that anyway, strange as that may seem to the modern American mind. I'm pretty sure lots "art experiments" go even further about exposed stuff..
THIS is the obligatory XKCD, which is to say weev did something permitted but is still a dick. It even reminds us that society has ways of reacting; laws from a nanny state are appropriate for crimes but not for correcting manner.
https://xkcd.com/1499/
While this sounds like whiny bitchy hyperbole, it's worth remembering that garbage will naturally be easier to retain in a catalog, it won't take premium negotiating to get/keep rights to it.
[something about ACs being easy to ignore/block]
[something about the effort put into #51759755]
[some other outrage to help further validate the trolling]
I'll keep trying to find more fucks to give, I'll probably find more motivation once I convince myself you're worth it.
The classic ones, the everquests and diablos, they were even more cancerous in some ways.
And for that subset, some which I respected more.
Though for that subset, some only Because Oldschool, I suppose.
Any given system over time is only going to be reconfigured over time to favor those with power. By those with power. In capitalism, power being money.
This drift may be too subtle to notice, but it's obvious if you ponder the effect's foundation, not the effect's subtlety.
I'm not trying to be moralistic, even the benefactors may be unaware in cases where it's just a natural consequence of the imbalance.
This same line of reasoning identifies that giving more/all control to the financial services (banks) will see drift from the lopsided influence, the only debatable point being how much.
>every time some idiot gets ketchuped
bwahahahaha omg
Seriously though, trains are an icon of relative safety. Is there a phrase that umbrellas 21st century fear hyperbole? We have no problem with letting everyderp drive a thousand kilos of speeding metal, we sell them daily smoking and drinking, and yet we spend billions on useless TSA because we demand theater. A child is vastly more likely to have a heart attack than be kidnapped by a stranger, yet we (reasonably) disregard the former's risk.
To the point, I want a buzzword for the hype we manufacture with FUD and episodes of CSI. Sometimes deliberately, to sell tiger-repelling rocks.
Might've been possible 100 years ago. But yeah, today, forget about it.
It's like how you can't uninvent a new tech, something that Our Wealthier Betters have often gnashed and wailed about in futility, when it costs them profits - if their kicking and screaming didn't work, what chance do we have?
If an ISP can be hammered for providing an internet connection ("enabling piracy") we can certainly blame a website for what the third party did.
Real talk though, precedent or not these wide-net causality chains are bullshit. It's arbitrarily applied, which is another way of saying "weaponized against anyone that lacks power/authority/money/lawyers".
>he can't because he has committed a bunch of crimes
He couldn't as John Doe. If a headline screams "no longer incognito" then it follows he previously was.
But John Doe couldn't claim to be author of sketchier accomplishments, and Razvan decided he needed their double-edged merit.
I won't claim those were "right" or "wrong", or even opine on the wisdom-or-not of this latest move.
You can't win, but you can muck it up. Fortunately, the involved systems will usually be indirectly connected at best, or outright competitors, or the data certainly exists in two piles but the draw'able conclusions from their overlap can't be made because the two data dumps aren't compatible (yet).
It's kind of like how the last bastion for commoners is the supercompanies (and governments) holding each other back. Or kind of like living with an incurable disease, but one of symptoms you can somewhat respond to.
As time passes, yes, these lines will blur. It's bad now, it'll be worse later. And culture won't adapt at the same pace, culture tends to need generations to repropagate.
"Once you go cephalopod you'll never want a human bod"
Shit, even turning Location off might not actually be working.
Some Android builds (mine came with Oxygen) natively give you some amount of permissions control, denying apps granular access, like access to camera or location. I'm guessing 5.0+ can do it, if OEM enables. I don't really know this stuff.
Thank you for your informative efforts, sister posts. Perhaps together we can figure out why the surface dwellers worship the Kardashian. Their religious texts don't indicate any sort of grand events, legends, or accomplishments, biblical or otherwise, that would prompt the exhaustive rituals and culture.
But the Kardashian phenomenon (not sure if sacred location, diety, or artifact) has a net worth of over 9000, so _clearly_ there must be something of value for me to find.
>She has a net worth of over $100 million.
>I don't think she is as dumb as you think she is.
I can't say much because I'm not an expert on this subject: It's 2016 and I still don't know what a Kardashian is.
>Compares It To Piracy
Huh. Usually when we mention the slippery slope it's in future tense, not past tense.
>if people don't pay in some way for content, then that content will eventually no longer exist
Sure, sure, let's see if music ceases to exist, let's see if no one makes music and it goes extinct.
Fucking rent seekers.
>communicating without a government permit
The future is here.
What, you thought it'd be heralded by jetpacks and teleporters?
>You neckbeards also work for NASA?
Several, I imagine.
Probably not GP in particular, but someone decided to defend "Neckbeards do not run anything"
>spent money on maintenance, superfluous employees
All I hear is a robot voice saying "OPTIMIZING..."
$5/hr humans are going to look expensive when an unpaid robot can lay the brick, hell, can assemble the fucking wash system itself.
It's not here now, no, but 99.9% of Earth's descendants are fucked. I might complain about the shit deals my generation got, but I'm glad I dodged the post-labor bullet.
Displaced labor is a hilarious argument. We displaced from labor to labor. We've never faced the actual extinction of labor itself.
Prolekistan has exactly one viable export, and it's about to evaporate. I trust everyone knows what happens to countries that have no exports.
Like this is the first time /. has put spin into the summary?
Even choice of article is something an agenda causes. Even if the userbase gets tired of it after The Year of the YouKnowWhat.