Well, hypothetically, IPv6 netblocks should become cheaper than their scarce IPv4 counterparts. Coupled with vastly simplified client requirements (such as not having to figure out how to connect two machines that are behind NATs), an IPv6 network could be quite a bit cheaper than an IPv4-only setup.
15 minutes of activity, followed by 3 hours of waiting. Which is how long it takes for Migration Assistant to copy over all my apps & data & configuration from my old mac.
the licence is there for the benefit of the developers and the end users - not just the new FSF agenda
The license will only apply to code which the developers of that code apply it to. The FSF will apply it to all their code, and I expect many developers will similarly apply it to all their code. Some may not.
Re-read what you wrote above and you will understand that would be just making it more difficult for those groups that already comply with the existing licence.
I have little sympathy with makers of devices using GPLd software that do not allow me to modify the software. It is against the spirit of the current license, and will be against the letter of the next.
Older hardware without the button would be stuck at the last version with the existing licence - which doesn't help the end user or the developer.
If there's no way to replace the signing key on that hardware, the signing key is the same for every device, and the hardware developer doesn't want to give out the common key to all hardware owners, then, yes, they can't put GPLv3 software on that piece of hardware. Otherwise, they could tell the owner the signing key for their device.
In an effort to stop DRM you want to make some systems of authentication completely unusable and effectively do the same thing as posting the shadow password file on the net?
You still seem to be under some misguided idea that you can't use signed binaries with GPLv3. Again, you can. There just has to be some way for the owner to get or replace the signing key. This makes no systems of authentication unusable except the authentication of a device being unmodified by the owner, to the device maker.
Nor does it do anything like posting a shadow password file to the net. I don't even know where you're getting that from...
This is a ridiculous argument. You don't need to have DRM to make a device safe from tampering. Make the hardware require a physical button to be held down in order to write to the firmware.
If you, for some reason, want to add signed binaries to the mix, then just require a physical button to be held down in order to write to the set of authorized keys.
GPL3 is satisfied and script kiddies can't overwrite the software on your device.
The _owner_ has to be able to add trusted keys, other people do not. There are any number of possibilities for authenticating that the "change trusted keys" request is not from a hacker. Most common would likely be a physical component ("flip a switch on the motherboard", "hold down reset button for 20 seconds", etc). You could also require a password known only by the owner, verified by trusted boot loader code. Or anything else you feel appropriate.
Actually it does not prevent good uses of signed binaries. The "good" kind of binary signing is the kind where you, the end user, are in control of the restrictions. It is perfectly acceptable under the GPLv3's terms if your computing device refuses to run binaries that aren't properly signed, as long as you, the user, can either disable that behavior, or add your own trusted keys.
I concur with the Brother recommendation. I recently bought a Brother DCP-8065DN fax/copy/scan/printer. It has postscript, ethernet interface, input and output duplexer and cost around $500. I've been very impressed by its features, driver software that actually works on OSX, and print speed. This printer even supports IPv6, which I'm sure _every_ slashdotter uses on their networks, since it's been around for more than 10 years by now.:)
I'd avoid HP, unfortunately -- from what I've heard, their consumer-level printers these days are disposable crap. Seems a shame to tarnish their brand like that, since they do make good high end printers.
Come on, I'm disappointed, only 7143 people linked to TMRC from slashdot in the last 4.5 hours? At least you're nearly saturating our puny 10bT connection to the outside world.:)
"""The nice thing about having a decent *nix base is that anything attempting to mess with Internet Explorer.app would have to ask for the sudo password."""
Or not...if you use the default setup, users who are Administrators (are in group 'admin') have write access to nearly everything in/Applications and/Library, and can thus screw up damn near everything (including Internet Explorer) without asking for a sudo password.
Of course, if you use your computer as a non-administrator, then you're safe.
Mail.app in 10.2 only checks all folders when you 1) Start Mail.app, 2) Select "Go offline" followed by "Go online" from the menu, or 3) Have a network connectivity change.
It does not check for new messages during the periodic (every ? min) check except in the "INBOX" folder.
How hard is it, really, to set up intelligent filters for e-mail. Surely someone in the USA knows how to harness the power of computers to sift through thousands of emails to filter out spam and sort messages by topic.
There was a system done by people at the MIT AI Lab that did just that for the Clinton administration. It was quite good - it would scan the email looking for key phrases/common questions/etc and if it found something that looked like it was about some known topic, send back further info about that topic, with a link to reply again if that wasn't what you were asking about or if it didn't help you answer your question.
After all the Bush election mess, though, somehow the people maintaining it as volunteers just didn't feel like it any more...(or something like that, I don't really know the details)
And oops, I forgot to include the Home Media Option which lets you have the webserver capability, that's an additional $99. So the real TiVo is up to $749. Yet, that comes for free with a custom built one.
So the TiVo costs more than $100 more than my box, yet my custom built box does more and won't stop working when TiVo goes out of business.
Compare my box to the price of a TiVo. From Amazon.com: TiVo Series2 80 Hour Digital Video Recorder - $399 - $50 rebate = $350. (I couldn't find the price of a 120 hour TiVo, so I'll give TiVo a little advantage)
Okay, now add the lifetime service fee of $299. Now you're up to $650. Wow look, all of a suddenmy box is cheaper! Or maybe you just want to add two years of service. Well then $12.95/month * 24 months of service fee - oops that's more than the lifetime fee!
But guess what: my box can also play video games, and MP3s. I can get TV shows OFF of it onto other media. It can be a webserver, file server, whatever else I want it to be. It stores my MP3s and can play them. Guess which one's a better deal?
I just built myself a new MythTV (www.mythtv.org) box a few weeks ago with the following hardware: Shuttle SK41G case+MB+PSU - $250 120GB Maxtor Fluid Dynamic Bearings 5400RPM HD - $130 WinTV dbx model 401 card - $100 Athlon 1800+ (I did not need to get this fast a processor, but I wanted speed left over for other things too) - $60 512MB DDR ram: $70 New remote control: $20 Total: $630
It works great, does ff/rew/pause of live TV, downloads TV listings off free websites, lets you record all showings of a show, has a webserver builtin so you can set recordings remotely, etcetc.
It also looks pretty and works great with a remote control so you really can use it like a set top box.
There are even optional modules for showing the weather, playing MP3s, and running various emulators/games.
It also supports multiple frontends and backends, so you can make an ultimate setup with 10 tuner cards and 20 TVs all connected to the same video storage if you're so inclined.
First, w.r.t the CPU requirements of MythTV: that is in no way true. MythTV runs *perfectly fine* recording and playing back simultaneously (aka Live TV) a 480x480 stream on a 1Ghz Athlon! Yes, *1*GHz. With about 10% CPU left over. (In case you are wondering it was an Athlon 1600+ underclocked to 100Mhz bus speed)
I just built myself a new MythTV box with the following hardware: Shuttle SK41G case+MB+PSU - $250 120GB Maxtor Fluid Dynamic Bearings 5400RPM HD - $130 WinTV dbx model 401 card - $100 Athlon 1800+ (NOTE I did *not* need to get this fast a processor, but I wanted speed left over for other things too) - $60 512MB DDR ram: $70 New remote control: $20 Total: $630
Compare this to the price of a TiVo. From Amazon.com: TiVo Series2 80 Hour Digital Video Recorder - $399 - $50 rebate = $350. (I couldn't find the price of a 120 hour TiVo, so I'll give TiVo a little advantage)
Okay, now add the lifetime service fee of $299. Now you're up to $650. Wow look, all of a suddenmy box is cheaper! Or maybe you just want to add two years of service. Well then $12.95/month * 24 months of service fee - oops that's more than the lifetime fee!
But guess what: my box can also play video games. I can get TV shows OFF of it onto other media. It can be a webserver, file server, whatever else I want it to be. It stores my MP3s and can play them. Guess which one's a better deal?
Seriously, before knocking MythTV, learn what you're talking about. Your claim of needing a Athlon XP2600+ is probably for having a *DUAL* tuner system. That is, encoding and decoding TWO MPEG4 streams simultaneously (for Picture in Picture, or just for recording one show while watching/pausing/fastforwarding another).
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You cannot send from 2002::/16 to 2002::/16 via 192.88.99.1, because many (all?) of the 6to4 relay routers filter packets of those characteristics. However, most (all?) OSes know how to *properly* deal with 6to4 tunnels, and will directly tunnel packets to other 2002::/16 addresses to the IPv4 endpoint, instead of tunneling via IPv4 to the intermediate router, which will then in turn just need to package up the packet into another IPv4 packet to send to the destination.
Yep there is. Almost every OS includes those tools now. ping6, traceroute6, host -t AAAA name, telnet, etc.
Linux has them. Windows XP has them. MacOSX has them. xBSD has them (at least some of the xBSDs that is, I don't use them so I don't really know).
If you're using debian, apt-get install iputils-tracepath iputils-ping iputils-arping iproute.
That'll give you the traceroute6, ping6, tracepath6. It also gives you the "ip" command which is a replacement for ifconfig and route and a couple more things. nslookup and dig and host all will find IPv6 addresses, if you specify to do so by asking for records of type "AAAA" (in MacOSX, it finds them by default, but seemingly not in linux). Both telnet and ssh work fine.
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Oh yes, I forgot, I also found a bunch of links that might be useful to anyone wanting to set up IPv6, so here they are:
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After the last/. article, I took it upon myself to learn more about IPv6 and maybe possibly start using it inside my private network. Well, what I found out was that I could use it on the *public* network, with hardly any hassle at all.
There's this really great feature in IPv6 that lets everyone with a (publicly routable) IPv4 address get 2^80 IPv6 addresses. Your IPv6 network is 2002:xxxx:yyyy::/48, where xxxxyyyy is the hex equivalent of your IPv4 address.
It's a system called "6to4" and basically involves the OS encapsulating all IPv6 packets into IPv4 and sending them through a tunnel to the "anycast" IPv4 address 192.88.99.1. This IP address is not that of one individual computer, but rather, the closest router actually on an IPv6 network. This router will then unencapsulate your packet and send it off into IPv6-land. Because your IPv4 address is embedded into the IPv6 address, every router on the IPv4 network knows how to reach you, given an IPv6 packet destined for your address, so you aren't tied to a particular tunnel endpoint like you are in some other schemes.
The best part about this is how easy it is to enable in OSX. Assuming you aren't behind NAT, to enable IPv6, just type:
Of course replace en0 with whichever device you're using (en1 probably if you're using airport). All done! Now try something like "ping6 debian.ipv6.lcs.mit.edu" to make sure it's working. There's also traceroute6, and telnet works as well.
Unfortunately, ssh for OSX doesn't appear to be compiled for IPv6 yet. If it were, "ssh -6 host" should work. Also unfortunately, none of the browsers I've tried can resolve IPv6 DNS for some reason. However, at least Safari does work with explicit IP addresses, so http://[3ffe:501:4819:2000:210:f3ff:fe03:4d0]/ will work.
no they *can't* do a simple search, because the "search engine" DOESN'T INDEX 3-LETTER WORDS. Go ahead, search for "rat", you won't find anything. Try searching for "rat mind", wow look at all those irrelevant articles because it conveniently ignored the "rat" part of the search. I really don't understand how the slashdot search engine can possibly pretend to be useful when it doesn't index 3-letter words. Half the interesting search terms "for nerds" are acronyms of 3 letters or less, not to mention the actual real words like rat.
I don't understand what the big deal is here...why are so many linux clients using the AOL private protocol, when AOL relased a public protocol (TOC) that works just fine? Not only does the public protocol still work, it also supports storing buddy lists on the server, which is a very nice feature.
As far as I know, however, only tik and tac use TOC. All the other stuff uses the half-working, mostly-broken, half-implemented FAIM implementation of AOL's private protocol. Is everyone just crazy, or what?
I don't blame AOL for breaking support for their private protocol. Just use the public one. Its there, it works. What's the big deal?
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Remember what happened when Apple released the Airport Express with support for non-NAT'd IPv6? http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2007-1338
So don't give me that crap about IPv6 meaning there will be a true end-to-end network. It's a nice dream, but it's not gonna happen.
15 minutes of activity, followed by 3 hours of waiting. Which is how long it takes for Migration Assistant to copy over all my apps & data & configuration from my old mac.
Nor does it do anything like posting a shadow password file to the net. I don't even know where you're getting that from...
This is a ridiculous argument. You don't need to have DRM to make a device safe from tampering. Make the hardware require a physical button to be held down in order to write to the firmware.
If you, for some reason, want to add signed binaries to the mix, then just require a physical button to be held down in order to write to the set of authorized keys.
GPL3 is satisfied and script kiddies can't overwrite the software on your device.
Everyone's happy, The End.
Sorry, that doesn't follow *at all*.
The _owner_ has to be able to add trusted keys, other people do not. There are any number of possibilities for authenticating that the "change trusted keys" request is not from a hacker. Most common would likely be a physical component ("flip a switch on the motherboard", "hold down reset button for 20 seconds", etc). You could also require a password known only by the owner, verified by trusted boot loader code. Or anything else you feel appropriate.
Actually it does not prevent good uses of signed binaries. The "good" kind of binary signing is the kind where you, the end user, are in control of the restrictions. It is perfectly acceptable under the GPLv3's terms if your computing device refuses to run binaries that aren't properly signed, as long as you, the user, can either disable that behavior, or add your own trusted keys.
I concur with the Brother recommendation. I recently bought a Brother DCP-8065DN fax/copy/scan/printer. It has postscript, ethernet interface, input and output duplexer and cost around $500. I've been very impressed by its features, driver software that actually works on OSX, and print speed. This printer even supports IPv6, which I'm sure _every_ slashdotter uses on their networks, since it's been around for more than 10 years by now. :)
I'd avoid HP, unfortunately -- from what I've heard, their consumer-level printers these days are disposable crap. Seems a shame to tarnish their brand like that, since they do make good high end printers.
Outgoing rates: 7329.4 kbits/sec 621.8 packets/sec
"""The nice thing about having a decent *nix base is that anything attempting to mess with Internet Explorer.app would have to ask for the sudo password."""
/Applications and /Library, and can thus screw up damn near everything (including Internet Explorer) without asking for a sudo password.
Or not...if you use the default setup, users who are Administrators (are in group 'admin') have write access to nearly everything in
Of course, if you use your computer as a non-administrator, then you're safe.
Mail.app in 10.2 only checks all folders when you 1) Start Mail.app, 2) Select "Go offline" followed by "Go online" from the menu, or 3) Have a network connectivity change.
It does not check for new messages during the periodic (every ? min) check except in the "INBOX" folder.
There was a system done by people at the MIT AI Lab that did just that for the Clinton administration. It was quite good - it would scan the email looking for key phrases/common questions/etc and if it found something that looked like it was about some known topic, send back further info about that topic, with a link to reply again if that wasn't what you were asking about or if it didn't help you answer your question. After all the Bush election mess, though, somehow the people maintaining it as volunteers just didn't feel like it any more...(or something like that, I don't really know the details)
And oops, I forgot to include the Home Media Option which lets you have the webserver capability, that's an additional $99. So the real TiVo is up to $749. Yet, that comes for free with a custom built one.
So the TiVo costs more than $100 more than my box, yet my custom built box does more and won't stop working when TiVo goes out of business.
Compare my box to the price of a TiVo. From Amazon.com: TiVo Series2 80 Hour Digital Video Recorder - $399 - $50 rebate = $350. (I couldn't find the price of a 120 hour TiVo, so I'll give TiVo a little advantage)
Okay, now add the lifetime service fee of $299. Now you're up to $650. Wow look, all of a suddenmy box is cheaper! Or maybe you just want to add two years of service. Well then $12.95/month * 24 months of service fee - oops that's more than the lifetime fee!
But guess what: my box can also play video games, and MP3s. I can get TV shows OFF of it onto other media. It can be a webserver, file server, whatever else I want it to be. It stores my MP3s and can play them. Guess which one's a better deal?
I just built myself a new MythTV (www.mythtv.org) box a few weeks ago with the following hardware:
Shuttle SK41G case+MB+PSU - $250
120GB Maxtor Fluid Dynamic Bearings 5400RPM HD - $130
WinTV dbx model 401 card - $100
Athlon 1800+ (I did not need to get this fast a processor, but I wanted speed left over for other things too) - $60
512MB DDR ram: $70
New remote control: $20
Total: $630
It works great, does ff/rew/pause of live TV, downloads TV listings off free websites, lets you record all showings of a show, has a webserver builtin so you can set recordings remotely, etcetc.
It also looks pretty and works great with a remote control so you really can use it like a set top box.
There are even optional modules for showing the weather, playing MP3s, and running various emulators/games.
It also supports multiple frontends and backends, so you can make an ultimate setup with 10 tuner cards and 20 TVs all connected to the same video storage if you're so inclined.
First, w.r.t the CPU requirements of MythTV: that is in no way true. MythTV runs *perfectly fine* recording and playing back simultaneously (aka Live TV) a 480x480 stream on a 1Ghz Athlon! Yes, *1*GHz. With about 10% CPU left over. (In case you are wondering it was an Athlon 1600+ underclocked to 100Mhz bus speed)
I just built myself a new MythTV box with the following hardware:
Shuttle SK41G case+MB+PSU - $250
120GB Maxtor Fluid Dynamic Bearings 5400RPM HD - $130
WinTV dbx model 401 card - $100
Athlon 1800+ (NOTE I did *not* need to get this fast a processor, but I wanted speed left over for other things too) - $60
512MB DDR ram: $70
New remote control: $20
Total: $630
Compare this to the price of a TiVo. From Amazon.com: TiVo Series2 80 Hour Digital Video Recorder - $399 - $50 rebate = $350. (I couldn't find the price of a 120 hour TiVo, so I'll give TiVo a little advantage)
Okay, now add the lifetime service fee of $299. Now you're up to $650. Wow look, all of a suddenmy box is cheaper! Or maybe you just want to add two years of service. Well then $12.95/month * 24 months of service fee - oops that's more than the lifetime fee!
But guess what: my box can also play video games. I can get TV shows OFF of it onto other media. It can be a webserver, file server, whatever else I want it to be. It stores my MP3s and can play them. Guess which one's a better deal?
Seriously, before knocking MythTV, learn what you're talking about. Your claim of needing a Athlon XP2600+ is probably for having a *DUAL* tuner system. That is, encoding and decoding TWO MPEG4 streams simultaneously (for Picture in Picture, or just for recording one show while watching/pausing/fastforwarding another).
You cannot send from 2002::/16 to 2002::/16 via 192.88.99.1, because many (all?) of the 6to4 relay routers filter packets of those characteristics. However, most (all?) OSes know how to *properly* deal with 6to4 tunnels, and will directly tunnel packets to other 2002::/16 addresses to the IPv4 endpoint, instead of tunneling via IPv4 to the intermediate router, which will then in turn just need to package up the packet into another IPv4 packet to send to the destination.
Yep there is. Almost every OS includes those tools now. ping6, traceroute6, host -t AAAA name, telnet, etc.
Linux has them. Windows XP has them. MacOSX has them. xBSD has them (at least some of the xBSDs that is, I don't use them so I don't really know).
If you're using debian, apt-get install iputils-tracepath iputils-ping iputils-arping iproute.
That'll give you the traceroute6, ping6, tracepath6. It also gives you the "ip" command which is a replacement for ifconfig and route and a couple more things. nslookup and dig and host all will find IPv6 addresses, if you specify to do so by asking for records of type "AAAA" (in MacOSX, it finds them by default, but seemingly not in linux). Both telnet and ssh work fine.
After the last /. article, I took it upon myself to learn more about IPv6 and maybe possibly start using it inside my private network. Well, what I found out was that I could use it on the *public* network, with hardly any hassle at all.
There's this really great feature in IPv6 that lets everyone with a (publicly routable) IPv4 address get 2^80 IPv6 addresses. Your IPv6 network is 2002:xxxx:yyyy::/48, where xxxxyyyy is the hex equivalent of your IPv4 address.
It's a system called "6to4" and basically involves the OS encapsulating all IPv6 packets into IPv4 and sending them through a tunnel to the "anycast" IPv4 address 192.88.99.1. This IP address is not that of one individual computer, but rather, the closest router actually on an IPv6 network. This router will then unencapsulate your packet and send it off into IPv6-land. Because your IPv4 address is embedded into the IPv6 address, every router on the IPv4 network knows how to reach you, given an IPv6 packet destined for your address, so you aren't tied to a particular tunnel endpoint like you are in some other schemes.
The best part about this is how easy it is to enable in OSX. Assuming you aren't behind NAT, to enable IPv6, just type:
sudo ip6config start-v6 en0; sudo ip6config start-stf en0
Of course replace en0 with whichever device you're using (en1 probably if you're using airport). All done! Now try something like "ping6 debian.ipv6.lcs.mit.edu" to make sure it's working. There's also traceroute6, and telnet works as well.
Unfortunately, ssh for OSX doesn't appear to be compiled for IPv6 yet. If it were, "ssh -6 host" should work. Also unfortunately, none of the browsers I've tried can resolve IPv6 DNS for some reason. However, at least Safari does work with explicit IP addresses, so http://[3ffe:501:4819:2000:210:f3ff:fe03:4d0]/ will work.
Have fun.
no they *can't* do a simple search, because the "search engine" DOESN'T INDEX 3-LETTER WORDS. Go ahead, search for "rat", you won't find anything. Try searching for "rat mind", wow look at all those irrelevant articles because it conveniently ignored the "rat" part of the search. I really don't understand how the slashdot search engine can possibly pretend to be useful when it doesn't index 3-letter words. Half the interesting search terms "for nerds" are acronyms of 3 letters or less, not to mention the actual real words like rat.
I don't understand what the big deal is here...why are so many linux clients using the AOL private protocol, when AOL relased a public protocol (TOC) that works just fine? Not only does the public protocol still work, it also supports storing buddy lists on the server, which is a very nice feature.
As far as I know, however, only tik and tac use TOC. All the other stuff uses the half-working, mostly-broken, half-implemented FAIM implementation of AOL's private protocol. Is everyone just crazy, or what?
I don't blame AOL for breaking support for their private protocol. Just use the public one. Its there, it works. What's the big deal?