I'm trying to run a petition (http://sb.drtwister.com/linux/) to get a game developer to agree to a Linux version before the game's released -- any recommendations? Are you concerned that eventually, game companies will start developing Linux versions of their games, and you guys will be outta work?
It's more appropriate to blame release of binaries without source code onto the net without any programmer's ability to check and find out the difference between the "real" program and one hacked as a trojan horse.
Wolfpack Studios, which is developing the new massively-multiplayer game (screenshots at http://sb.drtwister.com/sb-media.html) acknowledged the petition, at the very least. Got 300+ entries so far, sure could use more!
This is the one that's being developed with OpenGL as its primary graphics API, with Windows and Mac versions. All they want to know is that Linux users are a viable market.
The UO Linux port has been poorly maintained, but the UO Linux community page (http://uolinux.dhp.com) still has info. Last I read, Network Dragon (siteadmin) was praising the virtues of VMWare.
Never mind that, there's a better game coming out this summer, called Shadowbane. The developers of this title are already planning to use OpenGL to develop both Windows and MacOS ports, and have acknowledged that they might do a Linux version if there was enough of a response.
A news site I help run has started a petition. Sure could use some more entries.
http://sb.drtwister.com/linux/
I suspect it might be a lot easier to approach at least one prospectively great game in development to get the port you want. In this case, this game might come to Linux users, if that's what you want.
But for all other games, I suggest you support the petition site at http://www.tuxgames.com/ -- they do good work.
What was this Simple Implementation before it was open source? Was this something they sold to the commercial apps before? Has anyone gone to look at the code to see what this actually is?
I agree it's a step towards full open source, but I wonder if it's not just a baby step.
Shadowbane (http://www.shadowbane.com) is a massively-multiplayer environment now in development by Wolfpack Studios, a startup game shop in Austin. As the executive producer, Todd "Warden" Coleman, put it:
"Well, we've actually talked about Linux support in the past (and since we use Open GL, and have a single code base for both PC (Windows) and Mac, it wouldn't be *that* hard to do) -- but, to be honest, the market cry for it just hasn't been that great. If we get enough response from Linux users, I'm sure that we'll pay attention."
The petition has received over 200 entries since it went up two days ago.
Unfortunately, this was rejected as a story twice already.
Simple enough. Just a simple gravestone, maybe with a curved top, casting a shadow over a lonely little spot of ground, maybe with a daisy. That or an open coffin.
I'd advise against using religious symbols or vultures or anything like that. But an obituary icon would make sense to me.
OT Tuner disables connections to the 'base station' for iBooks and other AirPort-compatible Macs, and makes TCP/IP connections via Timbuktu Pro impossible.
OS 9 users may already have a solution on their install CDs, a control panel called "TCP/IP Options" which is unsupported by Apple, but can disable the IP Path MTU Discovery feature that reportedly causes the 'Mac attack.' Apple has a Tech Info Library about TCP/IP Options: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n210 75
Finally, a Mac network software guy said the problem is indeed related to OT using Mentat/TCP 3.5's new method of Automatic Path MTU Discovery. OT previously would set all outgoing datagrams as "Don't Fragment," though OT Tuner changes that. (whatever the hell that means.)
More is here at http://www.macintouch.com/macattack.html
There are at least 10 sources to this article, but/none/ of them are identified in this story! It's a great story, but how can anyone believe it conclusively? ZDNet could have just as easily made the whole thing up!
Sure, it's believable, since AOL is evil incarnate [/dripping sarcasm] but I just have to say WTF Man, couldn't they have found one person in the rogues' gallery to own up to their statements? If they don't work for Netscape anymore, what the hell do they have to lose?
How do you respond to accusations that you routinely modify quotes (as with Ken Williams,) claim associations with major entities (like NASA) who later tell other sites they never had anything to do with you...
Eh, skip it. Assuming any of the "atrocities" leveled at you are true, why would you try them? What possible benefit could there be to try and deceive people on the Internet, where information is rarely more than a few clicks away?
It's been open for two months now. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/09/22/086251 &mode=thread Here's the new site: http://www.securify.com/packetstorm/ The new host is security firm Kroll-O'Gara, at http://www.securify.com/ I really wish a href tags would work for me again. J.
I'd rather hear about how they expect to market Win2K to general users as a replacement for Win95 or 98 -- it might recognize and perform appropriately on new hardware and have 64-bit memory, but some reports suggest 500M to a full gig of hard disk space and 128M of RAM to function. All at NT 4.0's prices ($319).
It's all at http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/1999 /11-02pricing.htm
If they can sell this turkey, I would call that innovative. Innovative marketing, that is.
You realize Microsoft was one of four new companies (plus Intel, SBC and Home Depot) that recently made it onto the Dow Industrial Average. How's the stock market going to cope? What's that say for the Dow, that they're putting megalithic evil companies up with the set standard?
Then again, they have had Ford.
And what about Windows 2000? That's scheduled to come out Feb. 17. Not that lots of people are gonna yank it off the shelves, but does it have much of a chance now?
Note that 14 CFR lists Part 1211 as [Reserved]. Note also that this page suggests that "NASA is removing 14 CFR Part 1211 since it has served its purpose and is no longer in keeping with current policy."
So it might be legal now, but there were 22 years that made "ET Phone Home" illegal in America.
So maybe Steven Spielberg was encouraging kids to break federal law if they encounter wrinkly aliens?
One of the very first success stories on the Internet, as far as e-commerce was concerned, was a cheesecake company up in the Northeast that put up a Web site but didn't get any business. Finally, after a year, the owner put his cheesecake recipe out there and out of nowhere started getting massive numbers of calls. So, one of the things that you hear said a lot in the Open Source movement is "publish the recipe and build the restaurant."
Anyone know what he's talking about? I've never heard this story before.
There are just good reporters and bad reporters, good agencies and bad agencies. Though it might seem like Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch control everything in the news, there's one important thing to remember:
There exist people in this world that are open to the truth, and there exist people in this world that will be forever ignorant. The latter will always be the majority.
So please, say "bad article" when reading crap like this, but don't fall into the same trap the deluded reporter fell into. Acknowledge that if every media agent was as clueless and careless as Andrew Leonard, we might as well live in a propagandized state.
But also acknowledge that there are a lot more reporters who get it.
On the other hand, reporters (especially for those with a general audience) are supposed to write their stories from the perspective of someone clueless. It illustrates how shallow one's point of view can be.
So in that case, it just goes to show how confused people can be about Linux. This is something I'm assuming everyone reading/. already knows.
The quotes from both Wired articles came from Dave. If he was my dad and I was either of those two, I'd be embarassed as hell that he was blabbing to the world how concerned he was for the company's sake that I couldn't get into the frigging con.
Seems to me like Dad didn't really try that hard after all. The posts in the previous/. forum suggested COMDEX officials would've let the kids in anyway. Maybe the WIRED writer just wanted the scoop so didn't bother talking to either teenager or COMDEX officials for the first article.
This is why single-source stories are generally not the best way to report news. Dad just let everyone make a big deal out of a big nothing.
Ratte' started editing the t-files from Lubbock, Texas, a town known for its je ne sais quoi, as Texans say. In reality, it's a pretty boring place.
To a group that meets every so often at hacker conventions and otherwise talks on the net, why should it matter where they live? Why should it matter where anyone lives, so long as they can connect to the net?
If they wanted to use their real names, they would. But their real names are pretty ephemeral and useless, especially if they choose not to use them.
Mike the CTO is 17, but Andrew (his brother) the support manager is 14. You might be able to pass one in no sweat, but I dunno about the other.
One has to wonder how much effort Dad Dave made to get his "principals" (yeah, nice name for your CHILDREN, Dad) into COMDEX before the Wired reporter got the scoop.
Note there are no quotes from either of the teenage technocrats in the article, it's all Dad. I wonder what they think, and if they're not just annoyed as hell at dear old Dad like I would be for making a big frigging deal out of the thing.
Even though Meggs may be anti-Apple, he works for Logicware. I doubt they hired him for political reasons, just that he can port code. And porting code to MacOS is virtually all that Logicware does. They were the ones that did Quake II for the Mac.
-- Gartner Group wrote it all, despite what the small-type notice (quoted earlier) says in direct contradiction.
-- We're to understand that a set of URLs on www.gartner.com are "the Microsoft site".
-- Microsoft "sponsors" this "site", and paid unspecified fees to Gartner Group related to the content, but in no way did Microsoft fund the study.
...I can only find the third a legitimate complaint. We should treat Gartner for what it is: research for hire. They're not objective unless they're paid to be.
The first point is incorrect, and the second is irrelevant. The third is a legitimate concern, striking right at the dark heart of PHB consent for brand-name spindoctoring.
J. trust your local newspaper reporter, unless he's John Markoff
"pasa" is from the Spanish infinitive "pasar" which means "to happen." "pasa" by itself is the present third-person form of the verb, as in "it happens," so "que pasa" would literally be "what happens."
However, considering the literal translation of "what is happening" is "que pasando," I can assume slang cuts off the last couple syllables, so all that's left is "pasa."
Whatever, I'm a white guy. But the verb is "happen."
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I'm trying to run a petition (http://sb.drtwister.com/linux/) to get a game developer to agree to a Linux version before the game's released -- any recommendations? Are you concerned that eventually, game companies will start developing Linux versions of their games, and you guys will be outta work?
It's more appropriate to blame release of binaries without source code onto the net without any programmer's ability to check and find out the difference between the "real" program and one hacked as a trojan horse.
J.
Got a petition for it and everything.
http://sb.drtwister.com/linux/
Wolfpack Studios, which is developing the new massively-multiplayer game (screenshots at http://sb.drtwister.com/sb-media.html) acknowledged the petition, at the very least. Got 300+ entries so far, sure could use more!
This is the one that's being developed with OpenGL as its primary graphics API, with Windows and Mac versions. All they want to know is that Linux users are a viable market.
Thanks to TuxGames for the plug.
J.
damned vulpine
http://sb.drtwister.com/
The UO Linux port has been poorly maintained, but the UO Linux community page (http://uolinux.dhp.com) still has info. Last I read, Network Dragon (siteadmin) was praising the virtues of VMWare.
Never mind that, there's a better game coming out this summer, called Shadowbane. The developers of this title are already planning to use OpenGL to develop both Windows and MacOS ports, and have acknowledged that they might do a Linux version if there was enough of a response.
A news site I help run has started a petition. Sure could use some more entries.
http://sb.drtwister.com/linux/
I suspect it might be a lot easier to approach at least one prospectively great game in development to get the port you want. In this case, this game might come to Linux users, if that's what you want.
But for all other games, I suggest you support the petition site at http://www.tuxgames.com/ -- they do good work.
J.
damned vulpine
http://sb.drtwister.com/
What was this Simple Implementation before it was open source? Was this something they sold to the commercial apps before? Has anyone gone to look at the code to see what this actually is?
I agree it's a step towards full open source, but I wonder if it's not just a baby step.
J.
Shadowbane (http://www.shadowbane.com) is a massively-multiplayer environment now in development by Wolfpack Studios, a startup game shop in Austin. As the executive producer, Todd "Warden" Coleman, put it:
"Well, we've actually talked about Linux support in the past (and since we use Open GL, and have a single code base for both PC (Windows) and Mac, it wouldn't be *that* hard to do) -- but, to be honest, the market cry for it just hasn't been that great. If we get enough response from Linux users, I'm sure that we'll pay attention."
The petition has received over 200 entries since it went up two days ago.
Unfortunately, this was rejected as a story twice already.
J.
Simple enough. Just a simple gravestone, maybe with a curved top, casting a shadow over a lonely little spot of ground, maybe with a daisy. That or an open coffin.
I'd advise against using religious symbols or vultures or anything like that. But an obituary icon would make sense to me.
J.
Release the source of what? /.? That's already been done.
Penguin DNA? Talk to God.
J.
Among its readers' findings:
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OT Tuner disables connections to the 'base station' for iBooks and other AirPort-compatible Macs, and makes TCP/IP connections via Timbuktu Pro impossible.
OS 9 users may already have a solution on their install CDs, a control panel called "TCP/IP Options" which is unsupported by Apple, but can disable the IP Path MTU Discovery feature that reportedly causes the 'Mac attack.' Apple has a Tech Info Library about TCP/IP Options: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n21
Finally, a Mac network software guy said the problem is indeed related to OT using Mentat/TCP 3.5's new method of Automatic Path MTU Discovery. OT previously would set all outgoing datagrams as "Don't Fragment," though OT Tuner changes that. (whatever the hell that means.)
More is here at http://www.macintouch.com/macattack.html
J.
There are at least 10 sources to this article, but /none/ of them are identified in this story! It's a great story, but how can anyone believe it conclusively? ZDNet could have just as easily made the whole thing up!
Sure, it's believable, since AOL is evil incarnate [/dripping sarcasm] but I just have to say WTF Man, couldn't they have found one person in the rogues' gallery to own up to their statements? If they don't work for Netscape anymore, what the hell do they have to lose?
J.
Just because the submitter can't spell the name of the country doesn't mean you should follow suit, Rob. :o> It's "Taiwan." Please and thank you.
J.
damned vulpine
Eh, skip it. Assuming any of the "atrocities" leveled at you are true, why would you try them? What possible benefit could there be to try and deceive people on the Internet, where information is rarely more than a few clicks away?
J.
It's been open for two months now. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/09/22/086251 &mode=thread Here's the new site: http://www.securify.com/packetstorm/ The new host is security firm Kroll-O'Gara, at http://www.securify.com/ I really wish a href tags would work for me again. J.
I'd rather hear about how they expect to market Win2K to general users as a replacement for Win95 or 98 -- it might recognize and perform appropriately on new hardware and have 64-bit memory, but some reports suggest 500M to a full gig of hard disk space and 128M of RAM to function. All at NT 4.0's prices ($319).
9 /11-02pricing.htm
It's all at
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/199
If they can sell this turkey, I would call that innovative. Innovative marketing, that is.
J.
You realize Microsoft was one of four new companies (plus Intel, SBC and Home Depot) that recently made it onto the Dow Industrial Average. How's the stock market going to cope? What's that say for the Dow, that they're putting megalithic evil companies up with the set standard?
Then again, they have had Ford.
And what about Windows 2000? That's scheduled to come out Feb. 17. Not that lots of people are gonna yank it off the shelves, but does it have much of a chance now?
J.
J.
So it might be legal now, but there were 22 years that made "ET Phone Home" illegal in America.
So maybe Steven Spielberg was encouraging kids to break federal law if they encounter wrinkly aliens?
J.
One of the very first success stories on the Internet, as far as e-commerce was concerned, was a cheesecake company up in the Northeast that put up a Web site but didn't get any business. Finally, after a year, the owner put his cheesecake recipe out there and out of nowhere started getting massive numbers of calls. So, one of the things that you hear said a lot in the Open Source movement is "publish the recipe and build the restaurant."
Anyone know what he's talking about? I've never heard this story before.
J.
There are just good reporters and bad reporters, good agencies and bad agencies. Though it might seem like Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch control everything in the news, there's one important thing to remember:
/. already knows.
There exist people in this world that are open to the truth, and there exist people in this world that will be forever ignorant. The latter will always be the majority.
So please, say "bad article" when reading crap like this, but don't fall into the same trap the deluded reporter fell into. Acknowledge that if every media agent was as clueless and careless as Andrew Leonard, we might as well live in a propagandized state.
But also acknowledge that there are a lot more reporters who get it.
On the other hand, reporters (especially for those with a general audience) are supposed to write their stories from the perspective of someone clueless. It illustrates how shallow one's point of view can be.
So in that case, it just goes to show how confused people can be about Linux. This is something I'm assuming everyone reading
J.
The quotes from both Wired articles came from Dave. If he was my dad and I was either of those two, I'd be embarassed as hell that he was blabbing to the world how concerned he was for the company's sake that I couldn't get into the frigging con.
/. forum suggested COMDEX officials would've let the kids in anyway. Maybe the WIRED writer just wanted the scoop so didn't bother talking to either teenager or COMDEX officials for the first article.
Seems to me like Dad didn't really try that hard after all. The posts in the previous
This is why single-source stories are generally not the best way to report news. Dad just let everyone make a big deal out of a big nothing.
J.
Ratte' started editing the t-files from Lubbock, Texas, a town known for its je ne sais quoi, as Texans say. In reality, it's a pretty boring place.
To a group that meets every so often at hacker conventions and otherwise talks on the net, why should it matter where they live? Why should it matter where anyone lives, so long as they can connect to the net?
If they wanted to use their real names, they would. But their real names are pretty ephemeral and useless, especially if they choose not to use them.
J.
Mike the CTO is 17, but Andrew (his brother) the support manager is 14. You might be able to pass one in no sweat, but I dunno about the other.
One has to wonder how much effort Dad Dave made to get his "principals" (yeah, nice name for your CHILDREN, Dad) into COMDEX before the Wired reporter got the scoop.
Note there are no quotes from either of the teenage technocrats in the article, it's all Dad. I wonder what they think, and if they're not just annoyed as hell at dear old Dad like I would be for making a big frigging deal out of the thing.
J.
Even though Meggs may be anti-Apple, he works for Logicware. I doubt they hired him for political reasons, just that he can port code. And porting code to MacOS is virtually all that Logicware does. They were the ones that did Quake II for the Mac.
J.
...but wasn't it ESR that gave the initial notice that Apple's Public Software License was "open source"?
It's nice that Bruce Perens thinks Corel's being GPL compliant, but how about a second opinion?
J.
-- Gartner Group wrote it all, despite what the small-type notice (quoted earlier) says in direct contradiction.
-- We're to understand that a set of URLs on www.gartner.com are "the Microsoft site".
-- Microsoft "sponsors" this "site", and paid unspecified fees to Gartner Group related to the content, but in no way did Microsoft fund the study.
The first point is incorrect, and the second is irrelevant. The third is a legitimate concern, striking right at the dark heart of PHB consent for brand-name spindoctoring.
J.
trust your local newspaper reporter, unless he's John Markoff
"pasa" is from the Spanish infinitive "pasar" which means "to happen." "pasa" by itself is the present third-person form of the verb, as in "it happens," so "que pasa" would literally be "what happens."
However, considering the literal translation of "what is happening" is "que pasando," I can assume slang cuts off the last couple syllables, so all that's left is "pasa."
Whatever, I'm a white guy. But the verb is "happen."
J.