Debian is not planning to switch to KDE's menu system nor they're planning to dump their menu policy and all the beautiful thoughts behind it. It's just about the format of the menu entries.
Namely they're planning to switch their own, though working and widely used (withing their distribution), menu format to use the same standard as described in freedesktop.org's Desktop Menu Specification. Or at the moment it's still just a proposal, I haven't been following the discussion, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
But anyway, it's the same thing what GNOME and KDE of the future will be using to build their menus. Now is that a bad thing then? GNOME, KDE and Debian sharing the same menu entries but still everyone is able to present those menus as they natively please (as long as they implement the freedesktop.org standard)?
Actually, Galeon has exactly these features. Yuo can arrange the order of tabs within a window by dragging. You can drag tabs from a Galeon window to another or you can create a new window out of a tab by dragging the tab outside the window in which it currently is. No wonder Galeon has such advanced tab features since Galeon was the first browser to use tabs (if my memory serves correctly) so it kind of started this whole tab craze (on which we all depend nowadays:)
Adobe has offered SVG plugin for Mozilla-compatible browsers (and IE) since 11/2001. Get it here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/main.html. It's not libre, but gratis and does the job. There's version for Linux, Windows, Mac OS X and obsolete Mac OS.
...we've had this kind of service offered by Finnish Road Administartion for years, I believe it was opened in 98-99 or so. It's in English too, you can check it out here. It has been a great help many times. Especially those dozens of almost-real-time weather cameras by roads all over the country are very nifty. This one, for example, is quite near where I was born. Pretty sad picture at the moment:(
One thing that indicate the level of professionalism of these people is that the Neo client is written in VisualBasic (check their forums for reference, last night it was _so slow_ that I don't bother linking the thread here). VisualBasic has uses but not here I'm afraid. Yeah, why not lock out all the *nix clusters with cool admins that are the biggest contributors to distributed cracking projects by letting their clusters crack stuff when they otherwise would be idle. I guess they were developing a new portable client from the scratch with C... But still, no sympathy from me.
It takes the time to initialize graphics mode (like 0.1 secs to 2 secs, depends on your graphics device but it's the same for all graphical systems using the device, Windows included) plus a few milliseconds overhead even with old machines to get X up and running. Hardly slow for me, but perhaps you've got something better to offer.
What you're calling SLOW is the desktop environment running on top of X, GNOME or KDE or something. And I certainly can't argue with you that there wouldn't be lots of room for improvements here. But it's not fault of X, it's the bloat in applications.
So one thing that could improve all of Linux in terms of speed would be removal of GNOME and/or KDE, X is irrelevant here. Oh, wait a second. Actually that sentence doesn't make sense at all, you can't remove X or GNOME or KDE from Linux since it's not there. Linux is just the kernel. Let's try once more. One thing that could improve all of Linux distribution somedist in terms of speed would be removal of GNOME and/or KDE. But then again, I wouldn't use mydist if they took my GNOME desktop away.
For 2.4 series it's not up to Linus what gets merged. Marcelo Tosatti is the maintainer of Linux kernel 2.4 and he's the dictator-for-life of the stable tree.
You're right, default kernel is 2.2.x based but there's 2.4.18 based installation kernel too. With newer PC's you can choose which image load from the CD or if you're computer doesn't support that, you can make boot floppies w/ 2.4.18 as usual. And even if you installed it with 2.2.x, just apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18 afterwards if you don't want to compile your own kernel.
Hardware autodetection.
Uh so you write a pretty graphical installer and all suddenly it also autodetects your hardware automatically, no additional programming required?. Damn, I love those graphical installers.
Great. Perhaps you'll teach me how to install RedHat on my SGI Indy then since it's so much easier than Debian? What about RedHat for Hitachi SH? With pretty Anaconda-based install of course, that ugly text mode is only for hippies and Unix dinosaurs.
Perhaps because PGI only works with i386 (afaik?) But Debian/unstable is being developed for 13 different Linux-based architectures plus 4 non-linux (hurd, *bsd). shiny-multimedia-super-douper-developed-for-pc-use rs junk just doesn't work there. That's why you have to build a modular installer engine from scratch so you can choose graphical back-end if your platform supports it or you want in in the first place. I don't want a graphical installation even for my monster AthlonXP box.
And you always have the right to stop bitching and use something else if you don't like the way Debian is doing things. Try it sometime. Thank you very much.
Even if SuSE packaged GPL'ed software, they don't have to make rpms publically available. GPL says you have to give source to anyone you distribute binaries of GPL'ed programs. Therefore it's perfectly ok for SuSE or anyone only to sell rpms on CD to customers as long as you give a CD with source rpms too. Or give an account to a private FTP containing the source. You only have to give everything to those who get binaries by some mean. Then of course if you buy SuSE cd's, you can redistribute images of CD's without caring SuSE's feelings at all. But you don't have to. But back to the point, your conclusion was that rpms of GPL'ed software means they HAVE TO BE downloadable somewhere. Well, it just is not necessarily true.
Hunting for more GHz will continue for as long as computers work the way they currently does. There will always be demand for faster and faster CPU's. Only radically different technology will stop this GHz hunting we see now. But on the other hand, it's also kind of GHz hunting since that technology will of course be more efficient and powerful than the current technology where a silicon chip is pulsing n times a second, both achieve the same goal; computers that operate faster than their previous ones.
As for Pentium 4, I remember reading an interview of Intel engineer who said P4 architecture is able to run up to around 6GHz, and that they could announce a 6GHz procssor anytime, but it would be economical desaster to Intel. People will buy newer, faster processors anyway so why jump from 1.7GHz to 6GHz while you can milk'em with 2.4GHz, 2.8GHz, 3.0GHz... releases. And after announcing 6GHz, you'd better have something even better to offer a few months after that. I feel so lame not to be able to provide reference to back this post it's just the way it is:(
Great points, except one small correction must be made. Not every needed too to resize an XFS filesystem exists. There's no way to reduce size o f an XFS volume. I needed this feature last May when I played around with XFS on top of LVM. It was my fault in the first place, better make a working plan beforehand next time, but still you couldn't do it. With ReiserFS, it's easy - though time - consuming to reduce a volume.
Sure they do, I bet every university out there has a course on practical computer security. Should be, at least. My university's is here, probably not very interesting though since it's in Finnish. Basically first you choose a topic which can be from cracking DES to hijacking TCP session to hacking into WWW/FTP/DNS/NFS server. Then you make a written plan then you do the hack (within the lab network:) and then you get a grade.
Telecommunications software and multimedia laboratory of my school, Helsinki University of Technology organized this this kind of course back in year 1999. It was the first and the last time it was organized. The reason why they removed it, that I don't know. Maybe subject wasn't sexy enough back then. But it's a real shame I have no possibility to attend a course like that. Actually, maybe I hold a petition among friends and mail the professor who lead the '99 course and request the course to be added to selection:) Actually, the homepage of the course is still online (in Finnish) as is the course material which is partly in English. Material covers corresponding EU directives and Finnish national legislation.
Finland Post Corporation does this too, but if you move to a new address, they'll automatically redirect your mail mail sent to old address to this new address for 6 months for free. Pretty neat. For about $13 you can extend this period to one year.
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Just a small note to the original poster regarding his witty comment about spammers in China...
Spammers tend to be citizens of western countries for sure. They just exploit mis-configured, open Chinese, Korean, Indian and so on mailservers that allow one to freely relay messages through them. How would a random Chinese kid TRYING TO MAKE MONEY FAST by offering you life with 89% LESS BODY FAT and 48% LARGER PENIS FOR FREE know or care that minority of his target audience can potentially be fooled by marketing these things that match with values so important to most/many spoiled American/Western Europe people but that make no sense to his neighbours? Nope, it comes from inside, we (who have the privilege to live in welfare states, I'm from Finland by the way) shouldn't blame no-one but ourselves for this.
In traditional/. style I prefer to ask silly questions instead of go googling or reading Bugzilla so here it goes.
Does anyone know if they're planning to replace GTK 1.2 with GTK 2.0 soon as default toolkit on Unix platforms? By default I mean it uses GTK 2.0 if found without having to use --with-toolkit=gtk2 configure option of whatever it's called. I think basic GTK 2.0 support has been in since February or so and I personally tested it sometime in April or May (had to get some patches somewhere and apply to source from CVS, wasn't yet committed back then) and it worked fine on my mainstream system (i686 PC running Debian/unstable). Also some days ago I grabbed some snapshot debs from an APT repository announced on galeon-devel mailing list. Packages included Mozilla with GTK2 support and Galeon compiled from source from the HEAD branch of their CVS. That GNOME 2.0 version of Galeon is already almost quite usable, very cool.
Anyway, IMHO, it would be appropriate to begin public testing of new rendering back-end in early stages of 1.1 alphas by compiling official snapshots for Unices with GTK 2.0 support enabled. Any words regarding the issue?
Crux is ported. I'm currently using it. Works great, looks nice. This Metacity is compiled from source obtained from GNOME CVS, I'm not sure if the latest released tarball includes any themes, though. In Meta city CVS repository there're 8 different themes.
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Debian runs on NetBSDDude, hold on a second.
Debian is not planning to switch to KDE's menu system nor they're planning to dump their menu policy and all the beautiful thoughts behind it. It's just about the format of the menu entries.
Namely they're planning to switch their own, though working and widely used (withing their distribution), menu format to use the same standard as described in freedesktop.org's Desktop Menu Specification. Or at the moment it's still just a proposal, I haven't been following the discussion, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
But anyway, it's the same thing what GNOME and KDE of the future will be using to build their menus. Now is that a bad thing then? GNOME, KDE and Debian sharing the same menu entries but still everyone is able to present those menus as they natively please (as long as they implement the freedesktop.org standard)?
Actually, Galeon has exactly these features. Yuo can arrange the order of tabs within a window by dragging. You can drag tabs from a Galeon window to another or you can create a new window out of a tab by dragging the tab outside the window in which it currently is. No wonder Galeon has such advanced tab features since Galeon was the first browser to use tabs (if my memory serves correctly) so it kind of started this whole tab craze (on which we all depend nowadays :)
Adobe has offered SVG plugin for Mozilla-compatible browsers (and IE) since 11/2001. Get it here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/main.html. It's not libre, but gratis and does the job. There's version for Linux, Windows, Mac OS X and obsolete Mac OS.
...we've had this kind of service offered by Finnish Road Administartion for years, I believe it was opened in 98-99 or so. It's in English too, you can check it out here. It has been a great help many times. Especially those dozens of almost-real-time weather cameras by roads all over the country are very nifty. This one, for example, is quite near where I was born. Pretty sad picture at the moment :(
One thing that indicate the level of professionalism of these people is that the Neo client is written in VisualBasic (check their forums for reference, last night it was _so slow_ that I don't bother linking the thread here). VisualBasic has uses but not here I'm afraid. Yeah, why not lock out all the *nix clusters with cool admins that are the biggest contributors to distributed cracking projects by letting their clusters crack stuff when they otherwise would be idle. I guess they were developing a new portable client from the scratch with C... But still, no sympathy from me.
It takes the time to initialize graphics mode (like 0.1 secs to 2 secs, depends on your graphics device but it's the same for all graphical systems using the device, Windows included) plus a few milliseconds overhead even with old machines to get X up and running. Hardly slow for me, but perhaps you've got something better to offer.
What you're calling SLOW is the desktop environment running on top of X, GNOME or KDE or something. And I certainly can't argue with you that there wouldn't be lots of room for improvements here. But it's not fault of X, it's the bloat in applications.
So one thing that could improve all of Linux in terms of speed would be removal of GNOME and/or KDE, X is irrelevant here. Oh, wait a second. Actually that sentence doesn't make sense at all, you can't remove X or GNOME or KDE from Linux since it's not there. Linux is just the kernel. Let's try once more. One thing that could improve all of Linux distribution somedist in terms of speed would be removal of GNOME and/or KDE. But then again, I wouldn't use mydist if they took my GNOME desktop away.
For 2.4 series it's not up to Linus what gets merged. Marcelo Tosatti is the maintainer of Linux kernel 2.4 and he's the dictator-for-life of the stable tree.
You're right, default kernel is 2.2.x based but there's 2.4.18 based installation kernel too. With newer PC's you can choose which image load from the CD or if you're computer doesn't support that, you can make boot floppies w/ 2.4.18 as usual. And even if you installed it with 2.2.x, just apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18 afterwards if you don't want to compile your own kernel.
Hardware autodetection.
Uh so you write a pretty graphical installer and all suddenly it also autodetects your hardware automatically, no additional programming required?. Damn, I love those graphical installers.
Great. Perhaps you'll teach me how to install RedHat on my SGI Indy then since it's so much easier than Debian? What about RedHat for Hitachi SH? With pretty Anaconda-based install of course, that ugly text mode is only for hippies and Unix dinosaurs.
Perhaps because PGI only works with i386 (afaik?) But Debian/unstable is being developed for 13 different Linux-based architectures plus 4 non-linux (hurd, *bsd). shiny-multimedia-super-douper-developed-for-pc-use rs junk just doesn't work there. That's why you have to build a modular installer engine from scratch so you can choose graphical back-end if your platform supports it or you want in in the first place. I don't want a graphical installation even for my monster AthlonXP box.
And you always have the right to stop bitching and use something else if you don't like the way Debian is doing things. Try it sometime. Thank you very much.
Even if SuSE packaged GPL'ed software, they don't have to make rpms publically available. GPL says you have to give source to anyone you distribute binaries of GPL'ed programs. Therefore it's perfectly ok for SuSE or anyone only to sell rpms on CD to customers as long as you give a CD with source rpms too. Or give an account to a private FTP containing the source. You only have to give everything to those who get binaries by some mean. Then of course if you buy SuSE cd's, you can redistribute images of CD's without caring SuSE's feelings at all. But you don't have to. But back to the point, your conclusion was that rpms of GPL'ed software means they HAVE TO BE downloadable somewhere. Well, it just is not necessarily true.
Pretty hilarious :) Wonder if that book collection is protected...
Hunting for more GHz will continue for as long as computers work the way they currently does. There will always be demand for faster and faster CPU's. Only radically different technology will stop this GHz hunting we see now. But on the other hand, it's also kind of GHz hunting since that technology will of course be more efficient and powerful than the current technology where a silicon chip is pulsing n times a second, both achieve the same goal; computers that operate faster than their previous ones.
... releases. And after announcing 6GHz, you'd better have something even better to offer a few months after that. I feel so lame not to be able to provide reference to back this post it's just the way it is :(
As for Pentium 4, I remember reading an interview of Intel engineer who said P4 architecture is able to run up to around 6GHz, and that they could announce a 6GHz procssor anytime, but it would be economical desaster to Intel. People will buy newer, faster processors anyway so why jump from 1.7GHz to 6GHz while you can milk'em with 2.4GHz, 2.8GHz, 3.0GHz
Great points, except one small correction must be made. Not every needed too to resize an XFS filesystem exists. There's no way to reduce size o f an XFS volume. I needed this feature last May when I played around with XFS on top of LVM. It was my fault in the first place, better make a working plan beforehand next time, but still you couldn't do it. With ReiserFS, it's easy - though time - consuming to reduce a volume.
Sure they do, I bet every university out there has a course on practical computer security. Should be, at least. My university's is here, probably not very interesting though since it's in Finnish. Basically first you choose a topic which can be from cracking DES to hijacking TCP session to hacking into WWW/FTP/DNS/NFS server. Then you make a written plan then you do the hack (within the lab network :) and then you get a grade.
Telecommunications software and multimedia laboratory of my school, Helsinki University of Technology organized this this kind of course back in year 1999. It was the first and the last time it was organized. The reason why they removed it, that I don't know. Maybe subject wasn't sexy enough back then. But it's a real shame I have no possibility to attend a course like that. Actually, maybe I hold a petition among friends and mail the professor who lead the '99 course and request the course to be added to selection :) Actually, the homepage of the course is still online (in Finnish) as is the course material which is partly in English. Material covers corresponding EU directives and Finnish national legislation.
Finland Post Corporation does this too, but if you move to a new address, they'll automatically redirect your mail mail sent to old address to this new address for 6 months for free. Pretty neat. For about $13 you can extend this period to one year.
Just a small note to the original poster regarding his witty comment about spammers in China...
Spammers tend to be citizens of western countries for sure. They just exploit mis-configured, open Chinese, Korean, Indian and so on mailservers that allow one to freely relay messages through them. How would a random Chinese kid TRYING TO MAKE MONEY FAST by offering you life with 89% LESS BODY FAT and 48% LARGER PENIS FOR FREE know or care that minority of his target audience can potentially be fooled by marketing these things that match with values so important to most/many spoiled American/Western Europe people but that make no sense to his neighbours? Nope, it comes from inside, we (who have the privilege to live in welfare states, I'm from Finland by the way) shouldn't blame no-one but ourselves for this.
Go check Google with words like "spam chinese relay" and you'll get loads of matches like this which furher explains the problem.
What the hell are you talking about?
You didn't mention what spec you mean but I think you meant that Tomcat implements Servlet, JSP etc. specs poorly?
I wonder what is your standard for poor but you can't get any better compliance than what you get with Tomcat namely it happens to be the official, Sub-blessed reference implementation of these very specs. If you're in doubt, then check these URLs: Java Servlet technology - Implementations ja Specifications at java.sun.com and Front page of Tomcat site. Thank you.
We'll have more information next week on things like content tarballs and releasing the site source.
-- http://lwn.net/Articles/5052
Very cool. Bookmarks won't work, of course, but the content can be found somewhere as probably dozens of LWN replicas will offer it.
In traditional /. style I prefer to ask silly questions instead of go googling or reading Bugzilla so here it goes.
Does anyone know if they're planning to replace GTK 1.2 with GTK 2.0 soon as default toolkit on Unix platforms? By default I mean it uses GTK 2.0 if found without having to use --with-toolkit=gtk2 configure option of whatever it's called. I think basic GTK 2.0 support has been in since February or so and I personally tested it sometime in April or May (had to get some patches somewhere and apply to source from CVS, wasn't yet committed back then) and it worked fine on my mainstream system (i686 PC running Debian/unstable). Also some days ago I grabbed some snapshot debs from an APT repository announced on galeon-devel mailing list. Packages included Mozilla with GTK2 support and Galeon compiled from source from the HEAD branch of their CVS. That GNOME 2.0 version of Galeon is already almost quite usable, very cool.
Anyway, IMHO, it would be appropriate to begin public testing of new rendering back-end in early stages of 1.1 alphas by compiling official snapshots for Unices with GTK 2.0 support enabled. Any words regarding the issue?
Download here: http://shakti.tky.hut.fi/slashdot/effmp3
Crux is ported. I'm currently using it. Works great, looks nice. This Metacity is compiled from source obtained from GNOME CVS, I'm not sure if the latest released tarball includes any themes, though. In Meta city CVS repository there're 8 different themes.