Pale Moon is a Firefox fork, and is the closest thing I can find to the old, "good" Firefox. I've used it for almost a year now, and have had zero issues (I'm on Linux mostly, but it has worked flawlessly on my Win machines as well).
"You can change the source, you have the power!" Yeah, not so much... nobody is really going to do anything except complain. (Well, except that one guy who is now going to make it his life work to fork it into something he calls Freefox that gets used by around 53 people... but those 53 people are very happy about it.)
Firefox has been forked already. More than 53 people are very happy about it. Pale Moon
I didn't notice the 10. Just saw the/8. and went with it.
You lay a trap, then bitch about someone falling into it? I'm on your side, pal, yet you'd rather nitpick bullshit. Grow up. It was late, people make errors reading.
The most entertaining thing is reading the nonsense written by people who have a tenuous grasp of the subject matter. It happens with everything, from network protocols to climate science.
Just kidding, It's not entertaining at all.
Not sure what how this relates to my post. I merely stated that careless distribution in the early days exacerbated the problem, which it did. That has nothing to do with the fact that the address space is woefully insufficient overall, other than it made it unnecessarily smaller, unecessarily sooner.
You do realize that such careless distribution of IPv4 addresses in the early days is a big reason that IPv6 became necessary, correct? Conservation wouldn't have obviated the need for 6 by any stretch, but it would have helped.
Because NAT was designed as a temporary bandaid for the fatal design flaw of IPv4 (insufficient address space), the flaw that IPv6 was designed to fix.
We're running out of IPv4 addresses, that's what's broken. You keep hearing these arguments because the adults are talking. No one is saying that NAT is broken, just that IPv6 does away with it, and those that do not understand firewalls feel vulnerable.
The world is more safe now than at any time in its history. I'm not implying that guns are the reason, just informing you that you should take that bullshit somewhere else.
So you have an aversion to a person enjoying firearms? Have you ever fired one? It's kinda enjoyable.
The "sad sack" you refer to seems completely rational to me. He's just shooting a gun. You're the one being silly.
Total nonsense. Unless you're still running 10 y/o kit, almost every device that's sold NOW is supported on Windows. That can't be said for more than a small sample of printers, webcams or anything else under Linux.
That is a vast overstatement, and if you were experienced with Linux to a level beyond OP's mom, you'd know that.
I've been using Linux for over 10 years now, and while things have gotten much better over time, I've had issues with exactly 2 devices: a winmodem in the first pc on which I tried Linux (Mandrake), and iPod. Every other device that I have tried has worked.
The fork is there. Others took the initiative, despite your assertions to the contrary.
Pale Moon is a Firefox fork, and is the closest thing I can find to the old, "good" Firefox. I've used it for almost a year now, and have had zero issues (I'm on Linux mostly, but it has worked flawlessly on my Win machines as well).
"You can change the source, you have the power!" Yeah, not so much... nobody is really going to do anything except complain. (Well, except that one guy who is now going to make it his life work to fork it into something he calls Freefox that gets used by around 53 people... but those 53 people are very happy about it.)
Firefox has been forked already. More than 53 people are very happy about it.
Pale Moon
Add? You think these things are new?!
I didn't notice the 10. Just saw the /8. and went with it.
You lay a trap, then bitch about someone falling into it? I'm on your side, pal, yet you'd rather nitpick bullshit. Grow up. It was late, people make errors reading.
The most entertaining thing is reading the nonsense written by people who have a tenuous grasp of the subject matter. It happens with everything, from network protocols to climate science.
Just kidding, It's not entertaining at all.
Not sure what how this relates to my post. I merely stated that careless distribution in the early days exacerbated the problem, which it did. That has nothing to do with the fact that the address space is woefully insufficient overall, other than it made it unnecessarily smaller, unecessarily sooner.
You tricked me!
You do realize that such careless distribution of IPv4 addresses in the early days is a big reason that IPv6 became necessary, correct? Conservation wouldn't have obviated the need for 6 by any stretch, but it would have helped.
Because NAT was designed as a temporary bandaid for the fatal design flaw of IPv4 (insufficient address space), the flaw that IPv6 was designed to fix.
The argument for NAT-as-security, I mean...
More accurately, it's like someone declaring, during a debate on knife design, that scissors were designed for cutting parsley all along.
99% of the populations of those countries aren't spreading bullshit all over this thread. I was referring specifically to those individuals.
If enterprises are unaware of this situation in 2015, they need more than a few new "gurus".
We're running out of IPv4 addresses, that's what's broken. You keep hearing these arguments because the adults are talking. No one is saying that NAT is broken, just that IPv6 does away with it, and those that do not understand firewalls feel vulnerable.
No, it's socially acceptable behavior. The industry may have disdain for it, but it is absolutely not frowned upon by society.
The world is more safe now than at any time in its history. I'm not implying that guns are the reason, just informing you that you should take that bullshit somewhere else.
So you have an aversion to a person enjoying firearms? Have you ever fired one? It's kinda enjoyable. The "sad sack" you refer to seems completely rational to me. He's just shooting a gun. You're the one being silly.
Total nonsense. Unless you're still running 10 y/o kit, almost every device that's sold NOW is supported on Windows. That can't be said for more than a small sample of printers, webcams or anything else under Linux.
That is a vast overstatement, and if you were experienced with Linux to a level beyond OP's mom, you'd know that. I've been using Linux for over 10 years now, and while things have gotten much better over time, I've had issues with exactly 2 devices: a winmodem in the first pc on which I tried Linux (Mandrake), and iPod. Every other device that I have tried has worked.
Touche, King Whoosh.
Expand on that.
From now on, I'm modding up any troll posts in these bs threads. This is beyond ridiculous.
Choo choo choo choo choosh...
You need to get out from under your rock a little more often.
Minimum wage was $4.25/hr in the mid 90's. How old is your grandmother?