Does the government surveillance benefit citizens of the USA ? If so: how ?
Does it benefit a small, well connected elite ? If so: who are they ?
That is the trouble with all this secret nonsense - no one knows how much it goes on, why it happens, who gains by it.
BTW: I suspect that if a company pushes back, the government just finds a low level employee or two: shows them (but does not let them keep) a scary looking bit of paper and gets what it wants anyway.
This reminds me of the Content Addressable File Store that ICL developed some 50 years ago. OK: different implementation, but today a huge amount of RAM is affordable whereas CAFS needed to search for the data on disk.
If an organisation is going to want to 'Hack Back' at somewhere that (they believe) has attacked them then they are going to need tools to do so. The result will be an arms race of 'Hacking' tools as companies rush to fill a gap in the market - good news for the likes of Symantec I suppose, a new profit centre. So: will these tools only ever be used 'legitimately' ?
other than their route home, what else will that app monitor about the employee. "Mr Smith we notice that you did not leave the bar until 23.30 last night... please report to room 101 for an alcohol test"
I am quite aware of that, thank you. The point that I am making is that I value the stability of RedHat/CentOS, the version that I am running does the job that I need it for. If I needed a new feature then I would upgrade the whole OS.
I am running 2.6.32 - on a CentOS 6 system. Not everyone is always chasing the latest. I shall upgrade when RedHat/CentOS 8 comes out, probably in a year or two.
More like a car manufacturer who made a truck with brakes that can be hacked: made to fail via an external wifi signal... then a mechanic at a repair shop notices that the wifi is not properly protected but does not tell anyone. Mr Nasty sends the signal and someone dies. Who is at fault: the manufacturer, the repair shop or Mr Nasty ? Mr Nasty deserves jail time, but, I believe, so does the mechanic for not reporting the fault.
What is a reasonable lifetime for a product ? It depends on what it is. For something like a PC it is reasonable to expect 10 years, I know that many corporations upgrade after 3-5 years, but many home users will expect 10. That is 10 from when they bought it which could be 3+ years after it was first released [ I am not talking about a second hand sale ]. A mobile 'phone: I would say 5-8 years; I know that the vendors often only support 18 months and then want you to buy a new one. IoT stuff (eg light switches) I would expect them to be supported for 40 years -- that is definitely not the case, which is part of the reason that I have not bought one.
Income $26K, cost to scammer... probably not a lot, maybe a $few K. Cost to those scammed: huge, potentially millions and maybe a few lives lost or harmed — it hit quite a few hospitals; not that the scammers really care what it cost other people.
What is surprising is that something like this has not happened before now.... and when, oh when, are people going to stop using MS Windows for mission critical systems?
robbed by it own employees who, it seems, were subject to pressure to open more bank accounts. They have been fired (5,300 of them), but I would like to know if the managers who put the 5,300 under pressure have also been sacked.
you know that, I know that. However the people who buy these things do not know that and do not read reports of security issues; they probably would not even know if one of their IoT devices were used in a DDOS or something. The Chinese manufacturer loses interest once he has sold it to a distributor; the distributor and retailer just want to buy something as cheaply as possible to maximise profits.
The only way of getting this under control is to make the retailer responsible for any problems. They will rapidly realise that this will cost them a lot and so seek better (more secure) devices. I cannot see this happening for a long time.
If companies are going to start to do dynamic pricing like that... I wonder how long before someone produces an app that shows you where fuel is the cheapest in your area - maybe crowd-sourcing the data; then the fuel company monitors the app and changes prices based on what it learns... this could be interesting.
It has ever been thus. You gain more market share by having features, even if they are hard to use or broken. If your competitors have better sounding features than you do then customers will go there. There is little point in having a perfect system if no one uses it. So if MS has developer hours they are best spent adding new stuff than fixing things that don't quite work properly.
will these be in the application store or will Microsoft keep these out so as to lock people into Office 365 and Edge ? What about things like the Gimp ?
What they should be made to do is to comply with the GPL: to be ordered to release, under the GPL, their code that the linked to the GPL code. GPL infringement would stop overnight if the courts properly enforced the GPL.
I agree with this. I have installed & maintained some largish Cyrus installations (10,000 - 20,000 mail boxes). It works well but is complicated. Dovecot is what I have used for my more modest recent uses.
Apple also noted it had been trying to reach a licensing agreement with Qualcomm for more than five years, but said Qualcomm had refused to negotiate "fair terms".
That is a really interesting view Apple — some people would not view some of what you do as 'fair terms', for instance stopping 3rd party repairs. So: why one rule for you and another for others ?
The big manufacturers sell their products world wide. This means that they need to make them comply with the various standards that exist in different parts of the world. The EU market is about the same size as the USA one. The EU has its own energy standards and labelling, if the EPA Energy Star goes away in the USA they could simply display the EU ones in the USA. USA consumers would quickly learn what it was about, the manufacturers would save costs by not having to have their stuff tested twice; everyone wins. Going for global standards is where we will probably end up sooner or later anyway.
the idea about friends is that you interact with them personally, that you spend time with them - that willingness to spend time with them is part of what makes the friendship worth while and makes you feel valued and wanted. Having some bot that can do this for you entirely devalues the idea of friendship.
I acknowledge that you might not be able to be physically present with some friends, maybe they live a long way away, but you will still spend time talking to them on the 'phone, emailing,...
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Does the government surveillance benefit citizens of the USA ? If so: how ?
Does it benefit a small, well connected elite ? If so: who are they ?
That is the trouble with all this secret nonsense - no one knows how much it goes on, why it happens, who gains by it.
BTW: I suspect that if a company pushes back, the government just finds a low level employee or two: shows them (but does not let them keep) a scary looking bit of paper and gets what it wants anyway.
If you are not doing anything wrong: why do you shut the door when you have a shit in some public toilets ?
This reminds me of the Content Addressable File Store that ICL developed some 50 years ago. OK: different implementation, but today a huge amount of RAM is affordable whereas CAFS needed to search for the data on disk.
If an organisation is going to want to 'Hack Back' at somewhere that (they believe) has attacked them then they are going to need tools to do so. The result will be an arms race of 'Hacking' tools as companies rush to fill a gap in the market - good news for the likes of Symantec I suppose, a new profit centre. So: will these tools only ever be used 'legitimately' ?
How is this different from having more guns on the street, the result of which is that more people get killed ? (Sorry NRA supporters, but there is a reason that the USA is near the top of the List of countries by firearm-related deaths)
Would Microsoft release a new suite 'Microsoft Hack', what operating system(s) would it seek to subvert ?
So will unfettered use of nmap now be unarguably legal ?
other than their route home, what else will that app monitor about the employee. "Mr Smith we notice that you did not leave the bar until 23.30 last night ... please report to room 101 for an alcohol test"
I am quite aware of that, thank you. The point that I am making is that I value the stability of RedHat/CentOS, the version that I am running does the job that I need it for. If I needed a new feature then I would upgrade the whole OS.
I am running 2.6.32 - on a CentOS 6 system. Not everyone is always chasing the latest. I shall upgrade when RedHat/CentOS 8 comes out, probably in a year or two.
or maybe the inhabitants over there just did not pay their electricity bill ....
More like a car manufacturer who made a truck with brakes that can be hacked: made to fail via an external wifi signal ... then a mechanic at a repair shop notices that the wifi is not properly protected but does not tell anyone. Mr Nasty sends the signal and someone dies. Who is at fault: the manufacturer, the repair shop or Mr Nasty ? Mr Nasty deserves jail time, but, I believe, so does the mechanic for not reporting the fault.
What is a reasonable lifetime for a product ? It depends on what it is. For something like a PC it is reasonable to expect 10 years, I know that many corporations upgrade after 3-5 years, but many home users will expect 10. That is 10 from when they bought it which could be 3+ years after it was first released [ I am not talking about a second hand sale ]. A mobile 'phone: I would say 5-8 years; I know that the vendors often only support 18 months and then want you to buy a new one. IoT stuff (eg light switches) I would expect them to be supported for 40 years -- that is definitely not the case, which is part of the reason that I have not bought one.
Income $26K, cost to scammer ... probably not a lot, maybe a $few K. Cost to those scammed: huge, potentially millions and maybe a few lives lost or harmed — it hit quite a few hospitals; not that the scammers really care what it cost other people.
What is surprising is that something like this has not happened before now.... and when, oh when, are people going to stop using MS Windows for mission critical systems?
robbed by it own employees who, it seems, were subject to pressure to open more bank accounts. They have been fired (5,300 of them), but I would like to know if the managers who put the 5,300 under pressure have also been sacked.
you know that, I know that. However the people who buy these things do not know that and do not read reports of security issues; they probably would not even know if one of their IoT devices were used in a DDOS or something. The Chinese manufacturer loses interest once he has sold it to a distributor; the distributor and retailer just want to buy something as cheaply as possible to maximise profits.
The only way of getting this under control is to make the retailer responsible for any problems. They will rapidly realise that this will cost them a lot and so seek better (more secure) devices. I cannot see this happening for a long time.
it would have been priced in litres.
If companies are going to start to do dynamic pricing like that ... I wonder how long before someone produces an app that shows you where fuel is the cheapest in your area - maybe crowd-sourcing the data; then the fuel company monitors the app and changes prices based on what it learns ... this could be interesting.
It has ever been thus. You gain more market share by having features, even if they are hard to use or broken. If your competitors have better sounding features than you do then customers will go there. There is little point in having a perfect system if no one uses it. So if MS has developer hours they are best spent adding new stuff than fixing things that don't quite work properly.
The difference in mindset is: geek vs marketing.
will these be in the application store or will Microsoft keep these out so as to lock people into Office 365 and Edge ? What about things like the Gimp ?
What they should be made to do is to comply with the GPL: to be ordered to release, under the GPL, their code that the linked to the GPL code. GPL infringement would stop overnight if the courts properly enforced the GPL.
I agree with this. I have installed & maintained some largish Cyrus installations (10,000 - 20,000 mail boxes). It works well but is complicated. Dovecot is what I have used for my more modest recent uses.
and who will be able to update pages ?
LibreOffice is just a Russian tool to help their spies in the USA. Presidential order to ban its use.
That is a really interesting view Apple — some people would not view some of what you do as 'fair terms', for instance stopping 3rd party repairs. So: why one rule for you and another for others ?
I don't think that you have actually seen a household appliance in a European house. Then there is the 220/110v difference.
I am European. I have not seen household appliances in the USA. Yes, your puny voltage means higher current for the same work.
The big manufacturers sell their products world wide. This means that they need to make them comply with the various standards that exist in different parts of the world. The EU market is about the same size as the USA one. The EU has its own energy standards and labelling, if the EPA Energy Star goes away in the USA they could simply display the EU ones in the USA. USA consumers would quickly learn what it was about, the manufacturers would save costs by not having to have their stuff tested twice; everyone wins. Going for global standards is where we will probably end up sooner or later anyway.
the idea about friends is that you interact with them personally, that you spend time with them - that willingness to spend time with them is part of what makes the friendship worth while and makes you feel valued and wanted. Having some bot that can do this for you entirely devalues the idea of friendship.
I acknowledge that you might not be able to be physically present with some friends, maybe they live a long way away, but you will still spend time talking to them on the 'phone, emailing, ...
Stopped reading here, you're delusional.
The pay cheque that he will get from some MS front will be very real.