I agree with you whole heartedly. It also helps that the country didn't have too big of an exsisting deliver infrastruction and is about the size of the state of Wisconsin, USA.
"I think the same is true about global warming the earth will always be changing, we will learn to deal with it and prevent it when possible."
>So I'm assuming you are saying its impossible to do anything about global warming and human activity has nothing to do with it, well people will disagree. I think your wrong, but like I said earlier there are plenty of reasons to stop burning fossil fuels even if they aren't causing global warming, and maybe there is that off chance they are contributing to it and if we stop burning them we lessen the problem.
I'm saying it is unlikely that human activity has much to do with global warming. I do agree that we should find better sources of energy. I'm not against greener sources, I've even considered investing in a local wind farm, but county permits classify the structure as a tower and requires a lot of red tape with stupid building codes.
"We aren't that powerful"
>Well you have no actual basis on which to make that assertion. There was a picture in the National Geographic recently showing source of manmade light around the globe at night from.
If you break it down to raw physics, how much energy does it take to heat at 1 acre/foot of water 1 degree celcious. Light is easy to produce, energy of the amount the sun or even the earth produces is beyond our foreseeable grasp.
>Go visit a coal fired power plant, my favorite the one by Glen Canyon damn in Arizona. Look at all the CO2 billowing out of its smoke stack. It might not be quite a match for a Volcano but it runs 24x7 and has for years. Its one of thousands of coal fired power plants in the world.
Seen it, live with in 30 miles of 3 plants actually: Garbage incinerator, coal and nuclear. The coal was put back into commission after protestors and city counsels decided the nuclear plant was too scary.
>Its pretty naive of you to think that 6.5 billion people don't have an impact on the environment. Again look for space and see the millions of acres of rain forest we've clear cut or slashed and burned. Look at the oceans and see how many species we've fished to near extinction.
Again, we aren't talking about environment we are talking about climate. We do change environment, it would be naïve to think otherwise. While I'm trying to avoid semantics, the environment is a good reason to change things. However, global or even national policy isn't a good vehicle to make it happen.
"In Abu Graib, pictures should not have been taken and some of the photos may have been taken out of context"
>You're wrong and you are just being an apologist. The context for them is well known, some of the Iraqis in them were called to testify about them and described what happened in graphic detail, can dig up the transcripts if you like.
I will, but I recall a Syrian actually being an enemy combatant. I do plan to look into this as I really would like to see what came of the trials.
>If you think they are no big deal I assume you would be OK if we come and do the same stuff to you?
No, I'm no holding no war or information against you, nor have I committed any crimes punishable in such way.
"If there was torture, I hope they find those responsible."
>The question the Abu Graib photos raises is not what the show, but what kind of torture is going on that no one is taking pictures of so its never been exposed. The U.S. has secret detention facilities in numerous places around the world run by disciplined special forces, which may well be doing stuff 10 times worse tha Abu Graib but are disciplined enough they wont be caught. Only mistake the Army made in Abu Graib was using undisciplined gaurdsmen to do it. >They were understaffed so they let amateurs do it and they got caught. Even if American's aren't doing its been established beyond a shadow of a doubt the U.S. is shipping detainees to governments who have no reservations about full blown torture, so the U.S. is as guilty as the people a
>Damn you are a rocket scientist. If you weren't completely clueless you might have deduced that he is most probably Canadian, though American education is so dismal in things like basic Geography you probably don't know where Toronto is.
It was a guess, but I'm not going to assume nationality on slashdot. I do know where it is and I've been there several times. It isn't hard to forget the capital of a country. (Crappy Joke)
>For example, WTF is a "Tornato"?
Tornado, sorry, I don't nit pick your posts.
>Me I'm not a pedant like you so I don't care if there are typos in BS slashdot posts but maybe you should stop ranting about proof reading when you apparently don't proof read your own posts.
Agree'd. I didn't rant about proof reading, I don't, it was an implied attack. Something like, "I can't believe I've wasted my time responding to you, I'm gonna stop now."
>Thats was a chickenshit cop out if ever I heard one.
It isn't a cop out, it is a matter of living on a planet that is always changing. Thinking that we have the ability to effect the climate in a major way is the height of egotism. We aren't that powerful. I live with in 10 miles of one of the largest fault lines in North America, someday it will move, and when that happens people are going to be displaced and home destroyed. What can we do to stop it!!! OH NO!! AHHHH WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!. I think the same is true about global warming the earth will always be changing, we will learn to deal with it and prevent it when possible.
"We have torture law?"
>I assure the people in Abu Graib were protected from torture under the Geneva coventions protecting civilians in occupied countries which is what Iraq is. It has nothing to do with terrorists, or enemy combatants.
In Abu Graib, pictures should not have been taken and some of the photos may have been taken out of context. (People control things and such) If there was torture, I hope they find those responsible. Abu Graib wasn't an example of out right tourture.
" The constitution only applies to US citizens, no one else."
>Nice try, you lose. Jose Padilla is a U.S. citizen and has been held for years now without access to a lawyer, charges being filed, access to family or any of the most basic rights American citizen's are assured under the Bill of Rights and Rule of Law.
No argument from me here; However, his acts could be construed as treason, but he does need a trial, not a tribunal, to find that out.
>I assure you Europeans and everyone in the civilized world are going to stop coming to the U.S. if its made clear that they have no basic legal rights or due process when they are here which is what you are saying. Good way to destroy your economy.
Right....
"We can do with with out nuclear, it is just harder, I don't really see a problem."
>Once you start using nukes everyone else who has them is going to start using them too. Maybe its OK to use one on a cave in the middle of nowhere, next its OK to use one downtown Baghdad to take out one of Saddam Jr's bunkers.
Yes, if the yield is similar the amount of destruction is similar; they can be used as a common replacement of conventional weapons.
>There is an internet rumor circulating that Bush relayed to Al Qaida the message that if they attack again the U.S., the U.S. will nuke all the holy sites in Arabia. Far fetched now but plausible once the U.S. starts using tactical nukes as a matter of routine.
Sounds like psy-ops if it is true, but it is probably not true.
"Last I recall, we have a democracy, the Congress can at any moment put a stop to military operations if they wanted to. In either case, you've left your first subject and went to Iraq, which I'm going to ignore from here on in."
>Again bad reading comprehension on your part. I wasn't talking about the U.S. I was saying the U.S. is going to be unhappy when their fledgling Democracy in Iraq turns in to an Iranian aligned Islamic theocracy. When that happens chances are they will have to conjour up an excuse to invade and put them out of power again, and keep doing it until they elect a pro U.S. government. The U.S. has a long track record of toppling democraticly elected governments, and replacing them with dictators, because they didn't like how the people voted, Argentina, Chile, Haiti, Iran(the Shah), Nicragauga, Guatemala, its a really long list of democraticly elected governments the U.S. toppled because they were socialists or anti American.
I don't think you noticed the change in US Policy, long term over short stability. Iraq doesn't like Iran, in any situation. A theocracy isn't a republic; it tends to lean toward dictatorship.
"You went from talking about Kyoto to Bashing the current administrations forgiegn policy "
>Other than potentially making a start at ending global warming, which if it happens, and it is an "if", is going to do far more damage to the world both physically and economicly than Kyoto will.
I've just started dismissing the premis of mans change of the climate. So I'm going to ignore every reference to it from here on.
>I think a really good test for Americans would be to offer, or maybe compel them to trade their current homes and real estate for an estate several times more valuable on some low lying coastland or better yet a low lying tropical island and see if they are willing to gamble that global warming is a lie.
That is a the stupidest thing I've heard. There are risks buidling a house anywhere. Why would I build it on a cost subject to tsunami's, hurricanes, tropical storms and no water to drink from the ocean.
>But no, Kyoto is inevitably going to end up one of American's expansive land fills probably outside of Washingtoon D.C. alongside the Geneva conventions, the ABM treaty, U.S. law against torture, the rule of law, the Constitution and it appears very soon the global test ban treaty.
Lets see, ABM Treaty was made with U.S.S.R. last I checked they aren't around anymore. We have torture law? Last I knew, we only tortured enemy combatants, which are protected by no law and no treaty, besides the US laws don't extend beyond our borders. I'll agree with you Constitution, but not the way you think. The constitution only applies to US citizens, no one else.
>There is irony that as the U.S. tries to dictate to nation after nation that thou shalt not develop nuclear weapons the U.S. is in fact developing new ones, is going to test them in violation of treaty, and in the case of the new nuclear bunker busters is almost inevitably going to start using them to kill people for the first time since World War II. When the U.S. takes the first step off that slippery slope the world is going to become a VERY dangerous place.
We have bunker busters, Nuclear buster bunker bombs would be smaller and more effective at doing their jobs. This isn't a 1.4 Megaton explosion ment to whip out a city, it is a directional explosion desinged to tank out a fortified bunker...hench the name. We can do with with out nuclear, it is just harder, I don't really see a problem.
>It certainly is a subject for debate. Just because an election was held proves next to nothing. There is still a high probability that the Shia majority is just bideing its time until the constitution is written, the next elections are held which the Shia's will win, which the Shia will always win being 60% of the population and being an extremely cohesive voting block. Sistani issued a Fatwah compelling his large block of Shia's to vote which is why they did in such large numbers, the voted because they knew they would win the power they've been denied so long by doing so.
Huh? Wouldn't the largest block of people....have more votes? Their constitution isn't even drafted yet, give them some credit.
>You see the U.S. really only likes Democracies when they vote the way the White House wants them to. If they don't the U.S. really isn't that big a supporter of the concept.
Last I recall, we have a democracy, the Congress can at any moment put a stop to military operations if they wanted to. In either case, you've left your first subject and went to Iraq, which I'm going to ignore from here on in.
You went from talking about Kyoto to Bashing the current administrations forgiegn policy in Iraq. Congrats, you can always sleep at night knowing in 2009, GWB won't be president anymore.
I don't know if you're American but their are somethings you should know about the US and Kyoto.
1. The Senate must ratify international treaties and didn't ratify Kyoto. Not by a little, but by an ultra majority. 2. Bush will not be president in 2009
Notes on DC
1. DC isn't a happy looking city, I agree 2. Thank you, for your opinion as to why there was cloud cover. It was really cold this winter, it must be global cooling. I've seen serveral Tornatos. When I'm in the mountians sometimes the clouds cover everything and I can't see the base of the mountian, or even 1 meter infront of me. It is even brown, I think it came there from DC.
Non US and Kyoto
1. Nuclear, please, I want it. It won't blowup, the russians won't kill us with it. 2. Coal Plant + Garbage =/me Happy 3. The Solution to pollution is dillution
Simple, create and maintain your own. our distribution, Zinux http://zinux.cynicbytrade.com/, is based on LFS, and hit as been installed and has been funtioning on machines from routers and webservers, to Windows PDCs and NFS share hosts.
It even includes things like NPTL and a recent version of glibc. While not a lot of people are linux Savvy enough to do such a thing, but if you already have the investment of people. Installing and keeping an inhouse installation runninging isn't that large of an increase in costs.
Not to jump on the defense of Apple bandwagon here, but iTunes is a good example of easy organization. By default is stores music in folders organized by Artist/Album/Song. The power comes from the ability to actually find something in a collection of 10,000 songs in under 3 seconds by knowing some of the information.
IIRC, WinFS has been removed from the Longhorn line up. Again something that lets you put your files where ever and indexes them when they are created or modified is useful. Better than the current method which is go through each folder one by one looking at each file.
Your diving into more than one argument here, so I'll just focus on the social security issue here.
Lets say I work 40 hours a week at 5.15 the federal min wage (I don't knwo where you could do that, Full time at Mc Donalds pays 6.35 starting) that is about 10,000 a year. Here in La Crosse County Wisconsin, that is at the poverty line. Lets take out social security and no other taxes and they are left with 8800. 1200 dollars is 2 months of food and the amount of money that is taxed away increaes if they were to get a raise, or a better job.
Several Grand a year, no. But a rather large (Say 12 percent of their income from wages) amount.
All these dates are entirely arbitrary. The only thing rooted in christianity in terms of time is the sun is bright the sun is gone, when the sun comes back, that is a new day. All things were created in 6 days and there was some resting on the 7th. After that, all dates, christmas, easter columbus day are as arbitratry to time as your birthday. A lot of christian traditions come pagan traditions. Societies and cultures have and are always been feeding off of each other.
Just because it is based off of a pagan holiday for some people doesn't mean it isn't a good time to celebrate your belief in something. If you want to get that picky, you need to open up a few other debates such as the gregarian calander and all the major religions are based off the god of abraham so what is the big fucking deal. then again, what does all this have to do with increased drought effected lands.
Change has been happening since the dawn of time and there is little we can do to effect it. Weather the earth is warming or cooling, We can heat or cool where to live. People live all over the planet, from deserts to tropical islands to on active fault lines. We can only change the planet so much and given all the power we think we have, we don't have squat. How much energy does it take to heat 1 square meter of water at sea level? How much water is on the surface of the earth? Yeah, that is a lot of energy.
I agree, I don't see why humans shouldn't seek to make the global climate a better place for us, but the extent of our power only goes so far, and we really have to keep doing what we do. Make life better and change what we can.
What the hell does that all of that have to do with the article. Or even other topics spawned by the threads.
Drought effected areas became larger, IT IS THE CHRISTIANS FAULT. VOTE NOT REPUBLICAN! This is all fine and dandy but you're a little off. Christians are split just like american politics. Some believe to be a good steward of the earth you should respect it and be prudent with the resources given, others don't care and like their iPods and cell phones on a 6 month consumer cycle. Others yet, think black people are a plague placed here by the devil.
I sound a bit like Tom Daschel with this line but things aren't always Democrat or Replublican. Just because someone believes in god a certian way doesn't mean that they plot the increase in drought effected land. Oh, wait you didn't say that, you were completly off topic spouting shit, just like I am right now.
We agree, I just had more of a complaint with what people I.E. The Press, will and have said about the conclusion of the study. Which should be obese people may sleep differently than nonobese people.
You can't put a GPS on my house either. You can't put a camera on my door, yard or drive way without authorization.
The act of tracking someone isn't at issue with me, the act of attaching and modifying private property without due processes is. There isn't an expectation of keeping your whereabouts private on public roadways, but there is an expectation of privacy when it comes to intercepting communication or modifying personal property.
On another note. Would he have been liable if he found and removed the device? Destroyed the device? Jammed or placed the device on someone else's vehicle? Can I place tracking devices on other people cars? Can I place cameras? Can I place Identifying stickers or magnets?
Again the idea of tracking someone on the road isn't what is at issue. It is the method in which they do it.
I haven't read the entire comment thread so I hope this isn't redundant.
I think the study isn't all that inacurate, but the conclusions that people draw are wrong. The story is covered as Lack of Sleep = Over Weight, when it could and probably is Over Weight = Lack of sleep.
A person packing on extra pounds has a lot of extra stresses when they breath laying down. There is extra weight on the diaphram and increased amount of fatty tissues in the neck increaseing the chances for sleep apneia and other sleeping difficulties.
This is just something to consider, and as you said simple correlative studies are rarely valuable, but because it has the keywords of panic "Fat" "Obese" "Disease" it will get a lot of press.
No, the 50 bucks to buy the game should help with new hardware deployment (I know to deploy hardware in a data center like that is a long process with their uptime demands but seriously, Ironforge is not a fun place on Blackhand (I know Blackhand is one of the higher use (1000 in ironforge at one time last week))
No, I don't know what, but I'm sure you're going to tell me.
>You don't like social security?
In its current form no. It is looked at as a retirement entitlment that everyone who pays the tax and turns the ever rising age of retirment should get. It was never ment to be that and it never should be that. It is a Tax which takes ~14% of people income and gives it to other people.
>You don't like workers rights?
I do like workers rights. This doesn't mean they have a right to a job, the right to strike and not get fired. Workers rights are something that gets better as bussinesses realize happy workers are productive workers, legislation and a change in mentality has helped this, but seriously I don't think people are working 14 hours a day for pennies and a loaf of bread (at least in the US)
>You don't like Medicare?
Medicare is another intersting governemtn entitlement. Take money and redistributing it to other people. Sounds to me like Medicare and Social Security need to become one smaller more direct and effect program for helping people.
>You don't like being able to hold large corporations accountable in the court systems?
They are. But because of their size they also have a hold of the legislative branch. However, that is an argument for a later day.
>You want to be able to walk around strapped?
Hell yes.
>You want no govenment regulation of the environment?
Some, but not a lot.
>You ought to move to Mexico where all that's the norm. And I'm not kidding.
Why? Mexico like a 1930s America. There are parts where you'd think hey, this is a nice place to live. Other parts where you'd think, who put me in a 3rd world hell hole. And other places where you'd think, "I didn't know Al Cappone had a spanish cousin"
>The only reason I give a shit about you is that you're fucking up my country.
That is a little not nice. If he is working and paying his taxes, you can only gripe about his ideas.
I get about 25-30FPS@1600x1200 with almost every visual settings on low. A lot of the problem is my lack of ram. The disk swaps like mad when i do a turn in a city or ride a griffin. Installing the update now, we'll see.
I've been looking for a way to describe the movie using other movies names. Seriously, your "Beetlejuice in CandyLand" his the nail on the head. Other things I've though of were:
"Fear and Loathing in Chocolate" "Charlie and the Neverland Ranch"
But again, "Beetlejuice in CandyLand" had me laughing out loud
The parent is kinda funny in a historical perspective. The comment you link to is an interesting but tin foil hat like comment about the Chinese censorship.
I hope you're just trying to be funny. It is generally assumed that once energy is turned into heat, it is for the most part useless. Also, wind turbines remove the kinetic energy from the air, so the wind doesn't have the energy to carry the heat as far as it could.
Maybe I'm just a getting old but lets shed a little less paniced and more cynical light on the situation
ultra conservative supreme court appointments.
As shown by recent event, you need 60 people in the senate to do anything. The Senate cannot approve a majority appointment if it can't be brought to a vote.
ruining of Social Security
My personal views of Social Security asside, Social Security is a governemnt spending program...it isn't going away. Everyone elction in memory has threatened that, not gonna happen.
inability for Americans to safely travel overseas
There has always been a "Do not travel here" list. For various reasons. Unless you mean violence against Americans, which would just be silly and stupid in any most of the world.
the imposition of fundamentalist christian morality on all citizens (prayer in school, no abortion, discrimination and violence against gays, teaching creationism, etc)
Religous have been imposed more or less in every governemnt since the dawn of time. Specifics are hard to argue in a single responce, but lets just say, there is an influence. Which is why we should have Religion free from Government and Government free from religion (Note difference of Religion and faith)
bankruptcy of the Federal government due to grandiose overspending and insufficient tax revenue
The only thing that has limited the rate of growth in the government is gridlock. The only way government spending going to go down, is to change the way reps think and how people think of their reps. A truley fiscal conservative president wouldn't hurt, but no one, NO ONE wants to stop spending money once the it has started flowing. Pork is a problem, for everyone in office at all levels with money. At current rates it take 3+ trillion dollars a year to run the government. All we can hope in the near future is to stop or slow the rate of growth.
The list goes on
Typing too fast and not enough time to proofread, sorry for errors
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Not sure what you mean by credible but here are some links to some interesting sources
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http://www.canadafreepress.com/2004/main051704.
Think of the children.
I agree with you whole heartedly. It also helps that the country didn't have too big of an exsisting deliver infrastruction and is about the size of the state of Wisconsin, USA.
"I think the same is true about global warming the earth will always be changing, we will learn to deal with it and prevent it when possible."
>So I'm assuming you are saying its impossible to do anything about global warming and human activity has nothing to do with it, well people will disagree. I think your wrong, but like I said earlier there are plenty of reasons to stop burning fossil fuels even if they aren't causing global warming, and maybe there is that off chance they are contributing to it and if we stop burning them we lessen the problem.
I'm saying it is unlikely that human activity has much to do with global warming. I do agree that we should find better sources of energy. I'm not against greener sources, I've even considered investing in a local wind farm, but county permits classify the structure as a tower and requires a lot of red tape with stupid building codes.
"We aren't that powerful"
>Well you have no actual basis on which to make that assertion. There was a picture in the National Geographic recently showing source of manmade light around the globe at night from.
If you break it down to raw physics, how much energy does it take to heat at 1 acre/foot of water 1 degree celcious. Light is easy to produce, energy of the amount the sun or even the earth produces is beyond our foreseeable grasp.
>Go visit a coal fired power plant, my favorite the one by Glen Canyon damn in Arizona. Look at all the CO2 billowing out of its smoke stack. It might not be quite a match for a Volcano but it runs 24x7 and has for years. Its one of thousands of coal fired power plants in the world.
Seen it, live with in 30 miles of 3 plants actually: Garbage incinerator, coal and nuclear. The coal was put back into commission after protestors and city counsels decided the nuclear plant was too scary.
>Its pretty naive of you to think that 6.5 billion people don't have an impact on the environment. Again look for space and see the millions of acres of rain forest we've clear cut or slashed and burned. Look at the oceans and see how many species we've fished to near extinction.
Again, we aren't talking about environment we are talking about climate. We do change environment, it would be naïve to think otherwise. While I'm trying to avoid semantics, the environment is a good reason to change things. However, global or even national policy isn't a good vehicle to make it happen.
"In Abu Graib, pictures should not have been taken and some of the photos may have been taken out of context"
>You're wrong and you are just being an apologist. The context for them is well known, some of the Iraqis in them were called to testify about them and described what happened in graphic detail, can dig up the transcripts if you like.
I will, but I recall a Syrian actually being an enemy combatant. I do plan to look into this as I really would like to see what came of the trials.
>If you think they are no big deal I assume you would be OK if we come and do the same stuff to you?
No, I'm no holding no war or information against you, nor have I committed any crimes punishable in such way.
"If there was torture, I hope they find those responsible."
>The question the Abu Graib photos raises is not what the show, but what kind of torture is going on that no one is taking pictures of so its never been exposed. The U.S. has secret detention facilities in numerous places around the world run by disciplined special forces, which may well be doing stuff 10 times worse tha Abu Graib but are disciplined enough they wont be caught. Only mistake the Army made in Abu Graib was using undisciplined gaurdsmen to do it. >They were understaffed so they let amateurs do it and they got caught. Even if American's aren't doing its been established beyond a shadow of a doubt the U.S. is shipping detainees to governments who have no reservations about full blown torture, so the U.S. is as guilty as the people a
"I don't know if you're American"
>Damn you are a rocket scientist. If you weren't completely clueless you might have deduced that he is most probably Canadian, though American education is so dismal in things like basic Geography you probably don't know where Toronto is.
It was a guess, but I'm not going to assume nationality on slashdot. I do know where it is and I've been there several times. It isn't hard to forget the capital of a country. (Crappy Joke)
>For example, WTF is a "Tornato"?
Tornado, sorry, I don't nit pick your posts.
>Me I'm not a pedant like you so I don't care if there are typos in BS slashdot posts but maybe you should stop ranting about proof reading when you apparently don't proof read your own posts.
Agree'd. I didn't rant about proof reading, I don't, it was an implied attack. Something like, "I can't believe I've wasted my time responding to you, I'm gonna stop now."
"There are risks buidling a house anywhere"
>Thats was a chickenshit cop out if ever I heard one.
It isn't a cop out, it is a matter of living on a planet that is always changing. Thinking that we have the ability to effect the climate in a major way is the height of egotism. We aren't that powerful. I live with in 10 miles of one of the largest fault lines in North America, someday it will move, and when that happens people are going to be displaced and home destroyed. What can we do to stop it!!! OH NO!! AHHHH WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!. I think the same is true about global warming the earth will always be changing, we will learn to deal with it and prevent it when possible.
"We have torture law?"
>I assure the people in Abu Graib were protected from torture under the Geneva coventions protecting civilians in occupied countries which is what Iraq is. It has nothing to do with terrorists, or enemy combatants.
In Abu Graib, pictures should not have been taken and some of the photos may have been taken out of context. (People control things and such) If there was torture, I hope they find those responsible. Abu Graib wasn't an example of out right tourture.
" The constitution only applies to US citizens, no one else."
>Nice try, you lose. Jose Padilla is a U.S. citizen and has been held for years now without access to a lawyer, charges being filed, access to family or any of the most basic rights American citizen's are assured under the Bill of Rights and Rule of Law.
No argument from me here; However, his acts could be construed as treason, but he does need a trial, not a tribunal, to find that out.
>I assure you Europeans and everyone in the civilized world are going to stop coming to the U.S. if its made clear that they have no basic legal rights or due process when they are here which is what you are saying. Good way to destroy your economy.
Right....
"We can do with with out nuclear, it is just harder, I don't really see a problem."
>Once you start using nukes everyone else who has them is going to start using them too. Maybe its OK to use one on a cave in the middle of nowhere, next its OK to use one downtown Baghdad to take out one of Saddam Jr's bunkers.
Yes, if the yield is similar the amount of destruction is similar; they can be used as a common replacement of conventional weapons.
>There is an internet rumor circulating that Bush relayed to Al Qaida the message that if they attack again the U.S., the U.S. will nuke all the holy sites in Arabia. Far fetched now but plausible once the U.S. starts using tactical nukes as a matter of routine.
Sounds like psy-ops if it is true, but it is probably not true.
"Last I recall, we have a democracy, the Congress can at any moment put a stop to military operations if they wanted to. In either case, you've left your first subject and went to Iraq, which I'm going to ignore from here on in."
>Again bad reading comprehension on your part. I wasn't talking about the U.S. I was saying the U.S. is going to be unhappy when their fledgling Democracy in Iraq turns in to an Iranian aligned Islamic theocracy. When that happens chances are they will have to conjour up an excuse to invade and put them out of power again, and keep doing it until they elect a pro U.S. government. The U.S. has a long track record of toppling democraticly elected governments, and replacing them with dictators, because they didn't like how the people voted, Argentina, Chile, Haiti, Iran(the Shah), Nicragauga, Guatemala, its a really long list of democraticly elected governments the U.S. toppled because they were socialists or anti American.
I don't think you noticed the change in US Policy, long term over short stability. Iraq doesn't like Iran, in any situation. A theocracy isn't a republic; it tends to lean toward dictatorship.
"You went from talking about Kyoto to Bashing the current administrations forgiegn policy "
>Other than potentially making a start at ending global warming, which if it happens, and it is an "if", is going to do far more damage to the world both physically and economicly than Kyoto will.
I've just started dismissing the premis of mans change of the climate. So I'm going to ignore every reference to it from here on.
>I think a really good test for Americans would be to offer, or maybe compel them to trade their current homes and real estate for an estate several times more valuable on some low lying coastland or better yet a low lying tropical island and see if they are willing to gamble that global warming is a lie.
That is a the stupidest thing I've heard. There are risks buidling a house anywhere. Why would I build it on a cost subject to tsunami's, hurricanes, tropical storms and no water to drink from the ocean.
>But no, Kyoto is inevitably going to end up one of American's expansive land fills probably outside of Washingtoon D.C. alongside the Geneva conventions, the ABM treaty, U.S. law against torture, the rule of law, the Constitution and it appears very soon the global test ban treaty.
Lets see, ABM Treaty was made with U.S.S.R. last I checked they aren't around anymore. We have torture law? Last I knew, we only tortured enemy combatants, which are protected by no law and no treaty, besides the US laws don't extend beyond our borders. I'll agree with you Constitution, but not the way you think. The constitution only applies to US citizens, no one else.
>There is irony that as the U.S. tries to dictate to nation after nation that thou shalt not develop nuclear weapons the U.S. is in fact developing new ones, is going to test them in violation of treaty, and in the case of the new nuclear bunker busters is almost inevitably going to start using them to kill people for the first time since World War II. When the U.S. takes the first step off that slippery slope the world is going to become a VERY dangerous place.
We have bunker busters, Nuclear buster bunker bombs would be smaller and more effective at doing their jobs. This isn't a 1.4 Megaton explosion ment to whip out a city, it is a directional explosion desinged to tank out a fortified bunker...hench the name. We can do with with out nuclear, it is just harder, I don't really see a problem.
>It certainly is a subject for debate. Just because an election was held proves next to nothing. There is still a high probability that the Shia majority is just bideing its time until the constitution is written, the next elections are held which the Shia's will win, which the Shia will always win being 60% of the population and being an extremely cohesive voting block. Sistani issued a Fatwah compelling his large block of Shia's to vote which is why they did in such large numbers, the voted because they knew they would win the power they've been denied so long by doing so.
Huh? Wouldn't the largest block of people....have more votes? Their constitution isn't even drafted yet, give them some credit.
>You see the U.S. really only likes Democracies when they vote the way the White House wants them to. If they don't the U.S. really isn't that big a supporter of the concept.
Last I recall, we have a democracy, the Congress can at any moment put a stop to military operations if they wanted to. In either case, you've left your first subject and went to Iraq, which I'm going to ignore from here on in.
You went from talking about Kyoto to Bashing the current administrations forgiegn policy in Iraq. Congrats, you can always sleep at night knowing in 2009, GWB won't be president anymore.
You're not worth proofreading.
I don't know if you're American but their are somethings you should know about the US and Kyoto.
/me Happy
1. The Senate must ratify international treaties and didn't ratify Kyoto. Not by a little, but by an ultra majority.
2. Bush will not be president in 2009
Notes on DC
1. DC isn't a happy looking city, I agree
2. Thank you, for your opinion as to why there was cloud cover. It was really cold this winter, it must be global cooling. I've seen serveral Tornatos. When I'm in the mountians sometimes the clouds cover everything and I can't see the base of the mountian, or even 1 meter infront of me. It is even brown, I think it came there from DC.
Non US and Kyoto
1. Nuclear, please, I want it. It won't blowup, the russians won't kill us with it.
2. Coal Plant + Garbage =
3. The Solution to pollution is dillution
You're not worth proof reading.
Simple, create and maintain your own. our distribution, Zinux http://zinux.cynicbytrade.com/, is based on LFS, and hit as been installed and has been funtioning on machines from routers and webservers, to Windows PDCs and NFS share hosts.
It even includes things like NPTL and a recent version of glibc. While not a lot of people are linux Savvy enough to do such a thing, but if you already have the investment of people. Installing and keeping an inhouse installation runninging isn't that large of an increase in costs.
Who needs a preview.
Not to jump on the defense of Apple bandwagon here, but iTunes is a good example of easy organization. By default is stores music in folders organized by Artist/Album/Song. The power comes from the ability to actually find something in a collection of 10,000 songs in under 3 seconds by knowing some of the information.
IIRC, WinFS has been removed from the Longhorn line up. Again something that lets you put your files where ever and indexes them when they are created or modified is useful. Better than the current method which is go through each folder one by one looking at each file.
Your diving into more than one argument here, so I'll just focus on the social security issue here.
Lets say I work 40 hours a week at 5.15 the federal min wage (I don't knwo where you could do that, Full time at Mc Donalds pays 6.35 starting) that is about 10,000 a year. Here in La Crosse County Wisconsin, that is at the poverty line. Lets take out social security and no other taxes and they are left with 8800. 1200 dollars is 2 months of food and the amount of money that is taxed away increaes if they were to get a raise, or a better job.
Several Grand a year, no. But a rather large (Say 12 percent of their income from wages) amount.
You were right, I ment cube. Though I should have stuck with my gut and used acre/feet.
WTF Dude.
All these dates are entirely arbitrary. The only thing rooted in christianity in terms of time is the sun is bright the sun is gone, when the sun comes back, that is a new day. All things were created in 6 days and there was some resting on the 7th. After that, all dates, christmas, easter columbus day are as arbitratry to time as your birthday. A lot of christian traditions come pagan traditions. Societies and cultures have and are always been feeding off of each other.
Just because it is based off of a pagan holiday for some people doesn't mean it isn't a good time to celebrate your belief in something. If you want to get that picky, you need to open up a few other debates such as the gregarian calander and all the major religions are based off the god of abraham so what is the big fucking deal. then again, what does all this have to do with increased drought effected lands.
Change has been happening since the dawn of time and there is little we can do to effect it. Weather the earth is warming or cooling, We can heat or cool where to live. People live all over the planet, from deserts to tropical islands to on active fault lines. We can only change the planet so much and given all the power we think we have, we don't have squat. How much energy does it take to heat 1 square meter of water at sea level? How much water is on the surface of the earth? Yeah, that is a lot of energy.
I agree, I don't see why humans shouldn't seek to make the global climate a better place for us, but the extent of our power only goes so far, and we really have to keep doing what we do. Make life better and change what we can.
What the hell does that all of that have to do with the article. Or even other topics spawned by the threads.
Drought effected areas became larger, IT IS THE CHRISTIANS FAULT. VOTE NOT REPUBLICAN! This is all fine and dandy but you're a little off. Christians are split just like american politics. Some believe to be a good steward of the earth you should respect it and be prudent with the resources given, others don't care and like their iPods and cell phones on a 6 month consumer cycle. Others yet, think black people are a plague placed here by the devil.
I sound a bit like Tom Daschel with this line but things aren't always Democrat or Replublican. Just because someone believes in god a certian way doesn't mean that they plot the increase in drought effected land. Oh, wait you didn't say that, you were completly off topic spouting shit, just like I am right now.
We agree, I just had more of a complaint with what people I.E. The Press, will and have said about the conclusion of the study. Which should be obese people may sleep differently than nonobese people.
You can't put a GPS on my house either. You can't put a camera on my door, yard or drive way without authorization.
The act of tracking someone isn't at issue with me, the act of attaching and modifying private property without due processes is. There isn't an expectation of keeping your whereabouts private on public roadways, but there is an expectation of privacy when it comes to intercepting communication or modifying personal property.
On another note. Would he have been liable if he found and removed the device? Destroyed the device? Jammed or placed the device on someone else's vehicle? Can I place tracking devices on other people cars? Can I place cameras? Can I place Identifying stickers or magnets?
Again the idea of tracking someone on the road isn't what is at issue. It is the method in which they do it.
Didn't even proofread.
I haven't read the entire comment thread so I hope this isn't redundant.
I think the study isn't all that inacurate, but the conclusions that people draw are wrong. The story is covered as Lack of Sleep = Over Weight, when it could and probably is Over Weight = Lack of sleep.
A person packing on extra pounds has a lot of extra stresses when they breath laying down. There is extra weight on the diaphram and increased amount of fatty tissues in the neck increaseing the chances for sleep apneia and other sleeping difficulties.
This is just something to consider, and as you said simple correlative studies are rarely valuable, but because it has the keywords of panic "Fat" "Obese" "Disease" it will get a lot of press.
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No, the 50 bucks to buy the game should help with new hardware deployment (I know to deploy hardware in a data center like that is a long process with their uptime demands but seriously, Ironforge is not a fun place on Blackhand (I know Blackhand is one of the higher use (1000 in ironforge at one time last week))
>You know what?
No, I don't know what, but I'm sure you're going to tell me.
>You don't like social security?
In its current form no. It is looked at as a retirement entitlment that everyone who pays the tax and turns the ever rising age of retirment should get. It was never ment to be that and it never should be that. It is a Tax which takes ~14% of people income and gives it to other people.
>You don't like workers rights?
I do like workers rights. This doesn't mean they have a right to a job, the right to strike and not get fired. Workers rights are something that gets better as bussinesses realize happy workers are productive workers, legislation and a change in mentality has helped this, but seriously I don't think people are working 14 hours a day for pennies and a loaf of bread (at least in the US)
>You don't like Medicare?
Medicare is another intersting governemtn entitlement. Take money and redistributing it to other people. Sounds to me like Medicare and Social Security need to become one smaller more direct and effect program for helping people.
>You don't like being able to hold large corporations accountable in the court systems?
They are. But because of their size they also have a hold of the legislative branch. However, that is an argument for a later day.
>You want to be able to walk around strapped?
Hell yes.
>You want no govenment regulation of the environment?
Some, but not a lot.
>You ought to move to Mexico where all that's the norm. And I'm not kidding.
Why? Mexico like a 1930s America. There are parts where you'd think hey, this is a nice place to live. Other parts where you'd think, who put me in a 3rd world hell hole. And other places where you'd think, "I didn't know Al Cappone had a spanish cousin"
>The only reason I give a shit about you is that you're fucking up my country.
That is a little not nice. If he is working and paying his taxes, you can only gripe about his ideas.
I get about 25-30FPS@1600x1200 with almost every visual settings on low. A lot of the problem is my lack of ram. The disk swaps like mad when i do a turn in a city or ride a griffin. Installing the update now, we'll see.
2x2GHz G5
512MB RAM
ATI 9600XT
I've been looking for a way to describe the movie using other movies names. Seriously, your "Beetlejuice in CandyLand" his the nail on the head. Other things I've though of were:
"Fear and Loathing in Chocolate"
"Charlie and the Neverland Ranch"
But again, "Beetlejuice in CandyLand" had me laughing out loud
So join right in and celebrate, the war of 1812.
What?
The parent is kinda funny in a historical perspective. The comment you link to is an interesting but tin foil hat like comment about the Chinese censorship.
Again I say, What?
I hope you're just trying to be funny. It is generally assumed that once energy is turned into heat, it is for the most part useless. Also, wind turbines remove the kinetic energy from the air, so the wind doesn't have the energy to carry the heat as far as it could.
Didn't even preview.
Maybe I'm just a getting old but lets shed a little less paniced and more cynical light on the situation
ultra conservative supreme court appointments.
As shown by recent event, you need 60 people in the senate to do anything. The Senate cannot approve a majority appointment if it can't be brought to a vote.
ruining of Social Security
My personal views of Social Security asside, Social Security is a governemnt spending program...it isn't going away. Everyone elction in memory has threatened that, not gonna happen.
inability for Americans to safely travel overseas
There has always been a "Do not travel here" list. For various reasons. Unless you mean violence against Americans, which would just be silly and stupid in any most of the world.
the imposition of fundamentalist christian morality on all citizens (prayer in school, no abortion, discrimination and violence against gays, teaching creationism, etc)
Religous have been imposed more or less in every governemnt since the dawn of time. Specifics are hard to argue in a single responce, but lets just say, there is an influence. Which is why we should have Religion free from Government and Government free from religion (Note difference of Religion and faith)
bankruptcy of the Federal government due to grandiose overspending and insufficient tax revenue
The only thing that has limited the rate of growth in the government is gridlock. The only way government spending going to go down, is to change the way reps think and how people think of their reps. A truley fiscal conservative president wouldn't hurt, but no one, NO ONE wants to stop spending money once the it has started flowing. Pork is a problem, for everyone in office at all levels with money. At current rates it take 3+ trillion dollars a year to run the government. All we can hope in the near future is to stop or slow the rate of growth.
The list goes on
Typing too fast and not enough time to proofread, sorry for errors