this is a very interesting question. a container i good shape that is still within ISO spec's is worth 2400 new, used abut 1000 to 1500 range. container repair is a big business in Asia so steamship lines will buy them..
Cargo wise, in the summer, the USA east coast export to Europe, and the other way around is House hold goods ( light containers can be stacked to the max level ), so you want to think light density products, that don't suffer with heat exposure ( containers can get to 120F or hotter in the summer )
Auto filters, tires, light bulbs, sneakers, tea shirts, blue jeans, air craft machinery, stuff like that. If your lucky you'll get motor cycles, since they don't pack it so tight.
a lot of this stuff is an easy claim to the insurance company, just call them after you have the container number, tell them you found it, file the proper paperwork and you get a percentage of the cargo's value if the want it, or you get the entire cargo if they don't. and you'll get a payout for the container also.
the problem in the recovery is location of the container, if it's sunk, you got to find a way to get the container up, good thing is that if you can get a hook on the corners, you can haul it up with inflatable bags, a winch might strain itself too much.
High sea's recovery is very expensive, boat time can run you into multiple 1000's per day.
best thing is to learn the shipping lanes, get copies of lost cargo reports, and work the area's that have the highest density vessels and claims when there is a storm. I once research the lane from miami to new york, rather nice scattering 20 to 40 miles off shore but the odds of diving in the right spot are nil. I would need a powerful metal detector to find them.
Well that's what I'm thinking, surface containers can be caught, secured and towed onto shore rather quickly and cheaply ( some sort of simple inflatable balloons ). 200 miles or less from a port, you could get to it in 12 hours. of the weather is good. What a lot of people don't see is that the container itself is worth about 1000.00, it only broke free and fell, if it did not sink, then it's in decent shape. then I got the cargo, I could get anywhere from 10% to 50% of the value form the insurance company. so the worst case is I get fuel covered. best case is I find recyclable goods.
One thing I have going for me is that top cargo on large teu ship ( 5000 TEU's + ) have the lightest cargo on top. those take a while to sink so there is a good chance that I might be able to make some change.
it's rather simple, the way a container get's lost is... a) declared not lifted by the crane operator and marks his list showing that he lifted only 1 less than what he really lifted. b) that container is placed on a truck, and stacked near the empties. c) wait for the late gate to be opened one day, and have a yard hauler move it over to someone warehouse. ( the late gate is not that effective in counting containers leaving the port, that gate is good for last minute cargo that has to make it to the vessel or export.) d) unload container e) give the container to a buddy at the scrap yard he grinds it and it's gone.
I once lost a container at the port. I was warned that once I was at the port, I might not make it back ( containers do fall, even on windless days ), so I went to the port with a few people, paid a union man to drive me around and stick to my side like butter on bread ( ever see a union port worker nervous ) and by pot luck found my container. What they did not know at that time is that I was renting P&O and Cast Line containers for redeliver back to china, so these containers were blue, rather easy to see, and I quickly found it. the export cargo was worth in excess of 400K and I did not want this customer to go to another shipper.
In my past, I was exporting in excess for my clients 2000 TEU's per week, the loss of a container was a very big issue for my client. lucky for me I had only one claim in my transport career. But with that said, the device that needs to be designed is rather simple. it's a beacon type, that when it turns 180 degrees it becomes active. I am rather sure that at one point of the entire process the containers beacon would trigger.
You get very wet while on the High Seas and it is normal when you are traveling around the world, the vessel pumps are dumping a rather huge amount during storms. so you really want the tracking device only to be activated while it's falling off the deck and rotating, I've seen vessels move 20 degrees or more due to wind and wave action, so you don't want beacons being activated without reason.
Just to think out loud, How would a signal transmit from 1000M below sea floor? I am guessing that it could transmit while it's still floating but afterwards as it's sinking, would it still work?
You are all thinking along the right lines in my perspective. If he could publish some of the plans from the past, what the thinking was for the specific controller, and how to formulate the right devices together it would be a benefit for the 'home brew' hackers that wants to help.
open source for the project would just be a benefit for those that are disabled.
Just think, I got a cnc in my basement, another guy has spare chips, another has got the tubes they need and everyone could donate to the project. and make gifts of these things every year. Find a non-profit sponsor to help hire the right people to advise the group of what the needs of the disabled are and in no time a mock-up is made on the computer, the logic is reviewed, and final confirmation for making is made. Heck this could be a start to finish project that each controller could take only 2 months to make as initial prototype, then basic models could be made and proper adjustments could be built in...
Well I am off to help Hatti and solve that problem
>>Imalso have this nice feature where the first time I load a.PDF file it crashes but when I open it a second time it works
That my friend is a problem, you most likely have a pirated version of the software, or a related Adobe product, rather sure of it. I learned that by helping a friend out after his son installed some downloaded crap and added Photoshop. had to do a clean install go paid a WD passport for all my problems.
If this type of war did happen, and let's just say that there was no radioactive fallout. I would venture to guess that all agriculture zone 9 would become about a zone 5 http://www.willisorchards.com/zone... with that being the case, in North America, we would then move southerly to Mexico and the west coast of the USA.
I don't know much about South America in general, but I would guess that most of the amazon lower basin would become the worlds bread basket after a large investment in fertilizer
I don't even want to think about water level drops, and change in weather patterns
You are more or less right. Now also look at some 3rd party sites that have figured out Google's retention policy. I never get it right but from what i understand, even deleted it's sitting in some server for 90 to 120 days. I'm sure i am wrong about that but get your own clarification. I hope that it never comes to haunt this poor guy.
I can only think that the counter defense to ADS is a Faraday cage, but I'm not even sure you can make one that would be portable in this type of crowd situation.
Post like this is what keeps me reading slashdot. No matter where you go, there is always an accounting cost. it's like being hit on the head with the anvil, the Answer is very true but nobody ever thinks of it.
If I was given to think about the 2 choices you offered : "Go back to your homes, everything is fine" vrs. "At this point in time we simply don't know"
I would have to think that statement 1 is factual and certain, while the second statement tells me that nobody knows anything and I am at my own risk.
it comes down to the lack of common sense from the announcer.
Well, "space archaeology" has been around a while. I recall national geographic speaking about it back in the late 80's when talking about finding Mayan ruins. I also recall it being mentioned as far back as early 80's when used in passing about some straight lines that are man made, carved and marked from Mexico into the USA, Some sort of walking journey and they discovered more of these lines that people could walk.
it's also been useful in finding old settlements where rivers once existed
the cable is hitched to the draft horse harness. a good draft horse, well feed and maintained can pull about 600 to 800 LBS most of the day without much worry, I don't think that pulling a cable would be too much a problem since it smooth. and the distances covered would not be too great over the day.
Draft horses are known to pull out stumps and drag trees for great distances.
The Nazi's took note that everyone over 14 most likely had great training in rifle shooting, a large percentage of men ( and boys) were hunters, and that sharp-shooting is a national past-time. That with the heightened fear of invasion, the odds were well against the nazi's for a quick bloodless victory. I read a long while back that the cost was going to be 4 to 5 nazi's for ever Swiss and a complete decimation of the officer ranks before a victory.
I find that there is a simple loop hole to this problem for twitter. what's to stop the courts from issuing a black-hole order and block it? can be done, and since British ISP have obey the rules, it might be doable. sure as heck would wake up a lot of people.
diesel is fact, fuel stays good for a long while and can be treated if need be, and parts for diesels are common enough in most boat yards. Ok now I'm ready for those zombie's, come and eat me. Oh and if you want a safe location I'll be right here 27.245725,-78.342662 come in full light since any other time I just will shoot and think about it later.
a) setting up your zombie defenses, you need lot's of room before they get near. b) the further out defenses need to funnel them so that you have a higher chance of a head shot from far range. c) a simple spike defense might work to slow them down at all distances, which later you can come back and administer head shots within closer range (safely). d) find someone to do the clean up later. e) your last line of defenses would be some sort of boat in which to escape off the land, that does not mean that they wont chase you, but it gives you room to reset a new level of defenses.
f) most humans have feeling for there families, so keep humans outside of your defenses for a few days as a quarantine. g) kill quickly any zombies that have family within your zombie defense range, people are stupid and might try to use logic with a zombie brother or husband. h) simple slowdown traps ( looped rope attached to a tree ) is the easiest traps to set to slow a zombie threat cumming towards your defenses. then later apply idea c
since zombies not only eat humans but also other living beings, be ready for dogs, cats, horses and any other domesticated live stock to be a zombie.
hmmm, you got to ask yourself, if this is the situation, and the CDC is publishing this stuff. is there any chance of this sort of stuff happening.
now people ask, what do I do, and here we are talking about it.
I figured my defense would work, and here I am wondering how to set up a long & tall wall and how many people will it take to create this defense....
well then, I've come to a conclusion. grab a nice big sail boat, sail south to brazil, wait out the hurricane season the sail back to the gulf and hang out till I find a simple nice island.
crap, I have to pass to outflow of the amazon, I would expect zombies on driftwood 200 miles out. hmmm
if we can fly to one of these places, there is no doubt ( due to it's size ) that there is a way to dig way deep into it's mantel to get stored heat energy or tap into some sort of gravity effect to produce energy.
yep, a death zone, complete scorched earth policy would be most effective, but the problem is when you want to retake a zone afterwards. prevention of the infection is key, because if it crosses the zone, you need to create a new one and kill everyone in the other zones.
SO yes, a mote might work until it fills up, scorched earth on a consistent policy moving forward and containment is most likely the right policy.
yep, I'm ready, I'm in a small island on a bay, with only 2 bridges. get those removed and I can isolate my location decently safely. Question, do zombies swim ?
It sounds so simple because the idea has a lot going for it. the lack of an energy resource is the only thing, but I am thinking that a deep enough mine, might produce geo-therm heat.
Where I perceive the problem to be is the evolution of the people on the planet, we can barely keep ourselves from getting killed every 40ish years, I would love to know what would happen on this journey of 10000+ years.
As for a way to guild the direction, well these things are Jupiter size, so I would guess we would jump on one, then work on some sort of small consistent thrust that over 5000 years, MIGHT move the routing. But it looks like we would be hitchhikers just a long for the ride first.
Now how would we detect one with 200 to 400 years of advance notice so we can send up a scouting vessel to see if it works.
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this is a very interesting question.
a container i good shape that is still within ISO spec's is worth 2400 new, used abut 1000 to 1500 range. container repair is a big business in Asia so steamship lines will buy them..
Cargo wise, in the summer, the USA east coast export to Europe, and the other way around is House hold goods ( light containers can be stacked to the max level ), so you want to think light density products, that don't suffer with heat exposure ( containers can get to 120F or hotter in the summer )
Auto filters, tires, light bulbs, sneakers, tea shirts, blue jeans, air craft machinery, stuff like that. If your lucky you'll get motor cycles, since they don't pack it so tight.
a lot of this stuff is an easy claim to the insurance company, just call them after you have the container number, tell them you found it, file the proper paperwork and you get a percentage of the cargo's value if the want it, or you get the entire cargo if they don't. and you'll get a payout for the container also.
the problem in the recovery is location of the container, if it's sunk, you got to find a way to get the container up, good thing is that if you can get a hook on the corners, you can haul it up with inflatable bags, a winch might strain itself too much.
High sea's recovery is very expensive, boat time can run you into multiple 1000's per day.
best thing is to learn the shipping lanes, get copies of lost cargo reports, and work the area's that have the highest density vessels and claims when there is a storm. I once research the lane from miami to new york, rather nice scattering 20 to 40 miles off shore but the odds of diving in the right spot are nil. I would need a powerful metal detector to find them.
Well that's what I'm thinking, surface containers can be caught, secured and towed onto shore rather quickly and cheaply ( some sort of simple inflatable balloons ). 200 miles or less from a port, you could get to it in 12 hours. of the weather is good. What a lot of people don't see is that the container itself is worth about 1000.00, it only broke free and fell, if it did not sink, then it's in decent shape. then I got the cargo, I could get anywhere from 10% to 50% of the value form the insurance company. so the worst case is I get fuel covered. best case is I find recyclable goods.
One thing I have going for me is that top cargo on large teu ship ( 5000 TEU's + ) have the lightest cargo on top. those take a while to sink so there is a good chance that I might be able to make some change.
Funny. I meant upside down
it's rather simple, the way a container get's lost is ...
a) declared not lifted by the crane operator and marks his list showing that he lifted only 1 less than what he really lifted.
b) that container is placed on a truck, and stacked near the empties.
c) wait for the late gate to be opened one day, and have a yard hauler move it over to someone warehouse. ( the late gate is not
that effective in counting containers leaving the port, that gate is good for last minute cargo that has to make it to the vessel or export.)
d) unload container
e) give the container to a buddy at the scrap yard he grinds it and it's gone.
I once lost a container at the port. I was warned that once I was at the port, I might not make it back ( containers do fall, even on windless days ),
so I went to the port with a few people, paid a union man to drive me around and stick to my side like butter on bread ( ever see a union port worker nervous )
and by pot luck found my container. What they did not know at that time is that I was renting P&O and Cast Line containers for redeliver back to china, so these containers were blue, rather easy to see, and I quickly found it. the export cargo was worth in excess of 400K and I did not want this customer to go to another shipper.
In my past, I was exporting in excess for my clients 2000 TEU's per week, the loss of a container was a very big issue for my client. lucky for me I had only one claim in my transport career. But with that said, the device that needs to be designed is rather simple. it's a beacon type, that when it turns 180 degrees it becomes active. I am rather sure that at one point of the entire process the containers beacon would trigger.
You get very wet while on the High Seas and it is normal when you are traveling around the world, the vessel pumps are dumping a rather huge amount during storms. so you really want the tracking device only to be activated while it's falling off the deck and rotating, I've seen vessels move 20 degrees or more due to wind and wave action, so you don't want beacons being activated without reason.
Just to think out loud, How would a signal transmit from 1000M below sea floor? I am guessing that it could transmit while it's still floating but afterwards as it's sinking, would it still work?
You are all thinking along the right lines in my perspective.
If he could publish some of the plans from the past,
what the thinking was for the specific controller,
and how to formulate the right devices together
it would be a benefit for the 'home brew' hackers that
wants to help.
open source for the project would just be a benefit for
those that are disabled.
Just think, I got a cnc in my basement, another guy ...
has spare chips, another has got the tubes they need
and everyone could donate to the project. and make gifts
of these things every year. Find a non-profit sponsor
to help hire the right people to advise the group of what
the needs of the disabled are and in no time a mock-up
is made on the computer, the logic is reviewed, and
final confirmation for making is made. Heck this could
be a start to finish project that each controller could take
only 2 months to make as initial prototype, then basic
models could be made and proper adjustments could be
built in
Well I am off to help Hatti and solve that problem
>>Imalso have this nice feature where the first time I load a .PDF file it crashes but when I open it a second time it works
That my friend is a problem, you most likely have a pirated version of the software, or a related Adobe product, rather sure of it.
I learned that by helping a friend out after his son installed some downloaded crap and added Photoshop. had to do a clean install
go paid a WD passport for all my problems.
If this type of war did happen, and let's just say that there was no radioactive fallout. I would venture to guess that all agriculture zone 9 would become about a zone 5 http://www.willisorchards.com/zone ... with that being the case, in North America, we would then move southerly to Mexico and the west coast of the USA.
I don't know much about South America in general, but I would guess that most of the amazon lower basin would become the worlds bread basket after a large investment in fertilizer
I don't even want to think about water level drops, and change in weather patterns
You are more or less right. Now also look at some 3rd party sites that have figured out Google's retention policy. I never get it right but from what i understand, even deleted it's sitting in some server for 90 to 120 days. I'm sure i am wrong about that but get your own clarification. I hope that it never comes to haunt this poor guy.
I can only think that the counter defense to ADS is a Faraday cage, but I'm not even sure you can make one that would be portable in this type of crowd situation.
Post like this is what keeps me reading slashdot. No matter where you go, there is always an accounting cost. it's like being hit on the head with the anvil, the Answer is very true but nobody ever thinks of it.
If I was given to think about the 2 choices you offered : "Go back to your homes, everything is fine" vrs. "At this point in time we simply don't know"
I would have to think that statement 1 is factual and certain, while the second statement tells me that nobody knows anything and I am at my own risk.
it comes down to the lack of common sense from the announcer.
Well, "space archaeology" has been around a while. I recall national geographic speaking about it back in the late 80's when talking about finding Mayan ruins. I also recall it being mentioned as far back as early 80's when used in passing about some straight lines that are man made, carved and marked from Mexico into the USA, Some sort of walking journey and they discovered more of these lines that people could walk.
it's also been useful in finding old settlements where rivers once existed
the cable is hitched to the draft horse harness. a good draft horse, well feed and maintained can pull about 600 to 800 LBS most of the day without much worry, I don't think that pulling a cable would be too much a problem since it smooth. and the distances covered would not be too great over the day.
Draft horses are known to pull out stumps and drag trees for great distances.
The Nazi's took note that everyone over 14 most likely had great training in rifle shooting, a large percentage of men ( and boys) were hunters, and that sharp-shooting is a national past-time. That with the heightened fear of invasion, the odds were well against the nazi's for a quick bloodless victory. I read a long while back that the cost was going to be 4 to 5 nazi's for ever Swiss and a complete decimation of the officer ranks before a victory.
I find that there is a simple loop hole to this problem for twitter. what's to stop the courts from issuing a black-hole order and block it?
can be done, and since British ISP have obey the rules, it might be doable. sure as heck would wake up a lot of people.
diesel is fact, fuel stays good for a long while and can be treated if need be, and parts for diesels are common enough in most boat yards. Ok now I'm ready for those zombie's, come and eat me. Oh and if you want a safe location I'll be right here 27.245725,-78.342662 come in full light since any other time I just will shoot and think about it later.
if you were to look at this in perspective, the storm seems to be the same size ratio as one on earth.
so far I have come to the follow conclusion.
a) setting up your zombie defenses, you need lot's of room before they get near.
b) the further out defenses need to funnel them so that you have a higher chance of a head shot from far range.
c) a simple spike defense might work to slow them down at all distances, which later you can come back and administer head shots within closer range (safely).
d) find someone to do the clean up later.
e) your last line of defenses would be some sort of boat in which to escape off the land, that does not mean that they wont chase you, but it gives you room to reset a new level of defenses.
f) most humans have feeling for there families, so keep humans outside of your defenses for a few days as a quarantine.
g) kill quickly any zombies that have family within your zombie defense range, people are stupid and might try to use logic with a zombie brother or husband.
h) simple slowdown traps ( looped rope attached to a tree ) is the easiest traps to set to slow a zombie threat cumming towards your defenses. then later apply idea c
since zombies not only eat humans but also other living beings, be ready for dogs, cats, horses and any other domesticated live stock to be a zombie.
thank you, now to find my sailing craft. I wonder if the infection will cross over to food sources
hmmm, you got to ask yourself, if this is the situation, and the CDC is publishing this stuff. is there any chance of this sort of stuff happening.
now people ask, what do I do, and here we are talking about it.
I figured my defense would work, and here I am wondering how to set up a long & tall wall and how many people will it take to create this defense....
well then, I've come to a conclusion. grab a nice big sail boat, sail south to brazil, wait out the hurricane season the sail back to the gulf and hang out till I find a simple nice island.
crap, I have to pass to outflow of the amazon, I would expect zombies on driftwood 200 miles out. hmmm
if we can fly to one of these places, there is no doubt ( due to it's size ) that there is a way to dig way deep into it's mantel to get stored heat energy or tap into some sort of gravity effect to produce energy.
yep, a death zone, complete scorched earth policy would be most effective, but the problem is when you want to retake a zone afterwards. prevention of the infection is key, because if it crosses the zone, you need to create a new one and kill everyone in the other zones.
SO yes, a mote might work until it fills up, scorched earth on a consistent policy moving forward and containment is most likely the right policy.
yep, I'm ready, I'm in a small island on a bay, with only 2 bridges. get those removed and I can isolate my location decently safely. Question, do zombies swim ?
It sounds so simple because the idea has a lot going for it. the lack of an energy resource is the only thing, but I am thinking that a deep enough mine, might produce geo-therm heat.
Where I perceive the problem to be is the evolution of the people on the planet, we can barely keep ourselves from getting killed every 40ish years, I would love to know what would happen on this journey of 10000+ years.
As for a way to guild the direction, well these things are Jupiter size, so I would guess we would jump on one, then work on some sort of small consistent thrust that over 5000 years, MIGHT move the routing. But it looks like we would be hitchhikers just a long for the ride first.
Now how would we detect one with 200 to 400 years of advance notice so we can send up a scouting vessel to see if it works.
Big deal, open the application in a sandbox, take a look at the log's. and as the poster above commented, most likely examples.