I did a search of SCO on news.google.com just now, and although I didn't click any of the links, I saw no mention of Linux anywhere (saw a couple of references of 'Hackers' though). I did, however, see a few headlines like this:
"SCO claims of DDoS are being doubted" "SCO's 'DDoS Attack' - Was It or Wasn't It?"
and this one...
"Who is DoSing SCO?" - "As a public service, we are launching a public poll probe to try to learn the true identity of the villains behind the alleged DoS attack on SCO yesterday... It has been suggested at Groklaw and elsewhere the true villain is none other than The SCO Group itself, either by mistake as a result of poor network administration or on purpose, acting out of desperation in hopes of eliciting support from honest business-people."
It looks like this event might not be working in their favor. The media is starting to wise up. It's worth noting that all the above headlines came from Linux/IT web sites, but it's a start.
I, too, like it do the initial table layout and design in a WYSIWYG and then use a text editor to clean out all the garbage. In the end, I generally save time for complicated pages over coding it all by hand.
I think this method is coming to a quick end, however, given the direction the web is going with XHTML, standards, and CSS layout (which I think is a very good thing, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my brain around it.)
> Outlook, Pegasus, Eudora, Mulberry -- they all ignore usability in favor of Cool Features.
Sadly, you're right. Eudora USED to be quick and to the point (version 3.x), but now it's just as bloated and confusing as the others. The usability of Outlook Express is pretty good, if only it didn't have all those vulnerabilities.:/
I think Thunderbird is forging ahead of the rest, balancing both features and usability. And it's zippy on my overbloated inbox over IMAP. Very nice.
I was the AC who posted the parent. I agree that it has some truly innovative features (security, integration), but it also lacks in others (Lotus Script, ODBC anyone?). But the fact (popular opinion?) remains that the Notes e-mail client SUCKS. Do we have to trade powerful features for usability? I don't think we should have to in this case, since it's the little things that suck about Notes that could easily be fixed without sacrificing features... Things like F5 CLEARS the password instead of refreshing the screen, which anyone used to Windows apps will find really annoying. F9 refreshes instead. I want to know which guy decided, "Let's be different, we don't have to follow M$'s conventions. Let's make F9 the refresh key!".
There are other things like windows not redrawing properly, Open Mail not exposing new messages, and what I like to call the "Red Box of Death", which any Lotus admins out there will know what I'm talking about. The interface is clunky to me, too, but I suppose that's a side effect of it being more of a framework than an application.
For the record, I was a forced Notes 4.6/R5 admin for a very short period, and I still have the slash marks on my wrists to prove it. It was awhile ago, and it's possible Notes is much better now, but I doubt it, given how horrible it was to work with the first 5 major revisions.
> Not quite the same. A Jerry Springer show does have things in it that people are willing to pay to see: Nudity, girl on girl action, etc.
Bah! Have you seen some of the women on Springer? Makes IBM's legal team not look so bad. Hell, makes that mysterious hole on your neighbors fence look not so bad...
I would love it if Sharman blocked downloads of its signature:D
You know, how the whole P2P industry claims that they don't have control over their content, and that it's really a medium intended for legal distribution. Heh.
> If IBM doesn't think it's a good investment, IBM probably won't push it.
I completely agree, but it might be in IBM's best interest to discourage future lawsuits of this sort. I don't think they'd keep the countersuit out of revenge, I think they'd keep it so this sort of thing is less likely to happen in the future. I suppose it could be a double-edged sword if the GPL is ruled against, however. Even if the future lawsuit wasn't again them, they do have enough of a stake to want to prevent future FUD.
* KDE or Gnome Pick one * commandlines are for geeks, not users * Consistant AND Easy Versioning * Pick the best in class client/app * User Manuals in the style of "Dummies series" * Want to do THIS, use THAT app. * commandlines are for geeks, not users.
I agree 100%, this is a good list. I would also add "one-click installs". I download a program (whatever.dev) off the web, save it to my desktop or home directory, and double click the little icon to start the installation. Although the most important point would probably be "commandlines are for geeks, not users", the most important to me personally is consistency between apps. The file dialog should look and act exactly the same (with the ability to add advanced options) in every app, and standards should be followed that dictate "where things should go" and "how they should be organized" (even 'Settings' should always be in a consistent spot, like with many Microsoft products... Tools -> Options, usually as the last item of the menu).
I can understand why they wouldn't want to hire students per se due to the high turnover rates. However, they're probably pumping out graduates like every other University who would love a cushy University job, do a good job, and probably work cheap out of desperity all while gaining experience so they can make the big bucks later in life and give back to the MIT Foundation.
I see even the biggest of schools aren't immune to Microsoft's grasp, and PHBs aren't excluded by acedemia.
Heh, the University I attended wouldn't hire any of their graduates either. For the few positions I saw open up while I was graduating, most of them were filled with people whom had no degree or a 2-year degree with varying experience (some had decent experience, some had little more than the average student.) Nothing wrong with either type of person, of course, but it shows the faith the Uni had in its own undergrads.
I guess I should have seen the warning signs, but I was told I would make lots of money and be able to pick and choose my job with a bachelor's degree:D
> I love it when people who don't even have the balls to post under a MEANINGLESS USERNAME make fun of other people's looks.
Maybe the nick isn't the problem. Maybe he has a link back to his own web site and doesn't want the world to know that they themselves are even more ugly that those he makes fun of.
Either way, he's probably ugly inside, which is worse.
How is this on-topic? The poster asked for a CMS solution, not a recommendation to spend big bucks on a new computer only to use a proprietary version. He even provided open-source, non-platform-specific examples, and you fanboys STILL mention to get your "GO BUY A MAC" commented modded to +5.
> And this company... Wants us to trust them to run our electorate system?
Ehh, does it really matter who gets into office? The DMCA remains, companies like MiSCOsoft still fund campaigns, and the RIAA ia allowed to continue to spread their evil globally. Like candidate A vs. candidate B ever really makes a difference. Their funding, kickbacks, and dividends all come from the same place - big corporations.
I love Samba, but in a data center? I guess my idea of a data center is the likes of Rackshack and DataPipe, of which have no use for Windows shares, but I suppose if your data center has a need for thousands of Windows shares...:/
Doc: No wonder this circuit failed. It says "Made in Japan". Marty McFly: What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan. Doc: Unbelievable.
> Root password split btween 3 persons, i.e. all three have to be present to log in as root..priceless
Was the password set by an individual who then gave each part to the respective person, or did each of the 3 type their own part of the password that they came up with? If it's the latter, it would be interesting to see what happened if one of the 3 people died. Neat idea though, and sounds like they had a good security policy.
> This can be a *big* problem for *nix/mac users which normally don't need or use AV software.
I don't think most major ISP would leave Mac users out in the cold, but I could easily see where they would give two rips about Lunix users (or require they upgrade to a "business" account which support such operating systems that were design to be used as "servers"). What I am more concerned with is freedom of choice:
> In an unusual alliance among staunch competitors, Cisco Systems will collaborate with three of the largest computer security firms to fight virus and worm attacks.
Ok, I see how it is. Your router creates more AV sales for us, so we give you a kickback. We both make more money! Meanwhile, the likes of AVG and Avast are left out in the cold, as are their users. Soon you will require a "Cisco license" to release Anti Virus software if you want it to work for the masses, for a fee of course.
And what about personal routers/firewalls? Will we all have to upgrade to Cisco-AV(tm)-compliant home routers that report correctly to the ISP? Although this would be an extra expense (and I happen to like my SOHO router, thank you) I suppose it would allow you to run any sort of OS behind the firewall, include *nix.
Me too. I especially like how the last job I applied for on Monster.com got bounced by the HR person's inbox by SpamAssasin because it "looked like spam". Maybe I used too many buzzwords in my resume...
"Hire me now and enjoy as the ladies in the office will marvel at your enormous penis size relative to mine!"
Spam has made it difficult to set up legitimate servers to send legitimate e-mail to their indended recipients...
Exactly, get you hooked and then raise the price to $1.20/song once they have they have the whole world using WMA with DRM. There might be cheaper alternatives, but you'll be forced to use what "everybody else is using" just like Word documents.
> Out of curiosity, are you a fanatical religious moron?
Well, according to his web site, he is a student at BYU (which I believe is "spiritually themed") and he "recently returned from a full-time mission in Serbia and Bulgaria for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
He preaches about treating woman as objects, yet his religion promotes polygamy and child brides. Get real.
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Ehh, it worked for Kathleen Gilliam (McDonald's). You just need to look feeble enough compared to Goliath and the jury takes pity on you.
I did a search of SCO on news.google.com just now, and although I didn't click any of the links, I saw no mention of Linux anywhere (saw a couple of references of 'Hackers' though). I did, however, see a few headlines like this:
... It has been suggested at Groklaw and elsewhere the true villain is none other than The SCO Group itself, either by mistake as a result of poor network administration or on purpose, acting out of desperation in hopes of eliciting support from honest business-people."
"SCO claims of DDoS are being doubted"
"SCO's 'DDoS Attack' - Was It or Wasn't It?"
and this one...
"Who is DoSing SCO?" - "As a public service, we are launching a public poll probe to try to learn the true identity of the villains behind the alleged DoS attack on SCO yesterday
It looks like this event might not be working in their favor. The media is starting to wise up. It's worth noting that all the above headlines came from Linux/IT web sites, but it's a start.
I, too, like it do the initial table layout and design in a WYSIWYG and then use a text editor to clean out all the garbage. In the end, I generally save time for complicated pages over coding it all by hand.
I think this method is coming to a quick end, however, given the direction the web is going with XHTML, standards, and CSS layout (which I think is a very good thing, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my brain around it.)
> Outlook, Pegasus, Eudora, Mulberry -- they all ignore usability in favor of Cool Features.
Sadly, you're right. Eudora USED to be quick and to the point (version 3.x), but now it's just as bloated and confusing as the others. The usability of Outlook Express is pretty good, if only it didn't have all those vulnerabilities. :/
I think Thunderbird is forging ahead of the rest, balancing both features and usability. And it's zippy on my overbloated inbox over IMAP. Very nice.
I was the AC who posted the parent. I agree that it has some truly innovative features (security, integration), but it also lacks in others (Lotus Script, ODBC anyone?). But the fact (popular opinion?) remains that the Notes e-mail client SUCKS. Do we have to trade powerful features for usability? I don't think we should have to in this case, since it's the little things that suck about Notes that could easily be fixed without sacrificing features... Things like F5 CLEARS the password instead of refreshing the screen, which anyone used to Windows apps will find really annoying. F9 refreshes instead. I want to know which guy decided, "Let's be different, we don't have to follow M$'s conventions. Let's make F9 the refresh key!".
There are other things like windows not redrawing properly, Open Mail not exposing new messages, and what I like to call the "Red Box of Death", which any Lotus admins out there will know what I'm talking about. The interface is clunky to me, too, but I suppose that's a side effect of it being more of a framework than an application.
For the record, I was a forced Notes 4.6/R5 admin for a very short period, and I still have the slash marks on my wrists to prove it. It was awhile ago, and it's possible Notes is much better now, but I doubt it, given how horrible it was to work with the first 5 major revisions.
There are other good ones:
UNIX Expertise
UNIX Skillz
20 years
And I like this one because the guy looks cornered and doesn't know what to do:
Make it happen
> Not quite the same. A Jerry Springer show does have things in it that people are willing to pay to see: Nudity, girl on girl action, etc.
Bah! Have you seen some of the women on Springer? Makes IBM's legal team not look so bad. Hell, makes that mysterious hole on your neighbors fence look not so bad...
I would love it if Sharman blocked downloads of its signature :D
You know, how the whole P2P industry claims that they don't have control over their content, and that it's really a medium intended for legal distribution. Heh.
> If IBM doesn't think it's a good investment, IBM probably won't push it.
I completely agree, but it might be in IBM's best interest to discourage future lawsuits of this sort. I don't think they'd keep the countersuit out of revenge, I think they'd keep it so this sort of thing is less likely to happen in the future. I suppose it could be a double-edged sword if the GPL is ruled against, however. Even if the future lawsuit wasn't again them, they do have enough of a stake to want to prevent future FUD.
We don't need another SCO.
I agree 100%, this is a good list. I would also add "one-click installs". I download a program (whatever.dev) off the web, save it to my desktop or home directory, and double click the little icon to start the installation. Although the most important point would probably be "commandlines are for geeks, not users", the most important to me personally is consistency between apps. The file dialog should look and act exactly the same (with the ability to add advanced options) in every app, and standards should be followed that dictate "where things should go" and "how they should be organized" (even 'Settings' should always be in a consistent spot, like with many Microsoft products... Tools -> Options, usually as the last item of the menu).
After re-reading the article, I agree it was a stretch, but I bet I'm not wrong ;)
Perhaps spending too much time at this site has made me a bitter man driven by group-think.
I can understand why they wouldn't want to hire students per se due to the high turnover rates. However, they're probably pumping out graduates like every other University who would love a cushy University job, do a good job, and probably work cheap out of desperity all while gaining experience so they can make the big bucks later in life and give back to the MIT Foundation.
I see even the biggest of schools aren't immune to Microsoft's grasp, and PHBs aren't excluded by acedemia.
:D
Heh, the University I attended wouldn't hire any of their graduates either. For the few positions I saw open up while I was graduating, most of them were filled with people whom had no degree or a 2-year degree with varying experience (some had decent experience, some had little more than the average student.) Nothing wrong with either type of person, of course, but it shows the faith the Uni had in its own undergrads.
I guess I should have seen the warning signs, but I was told I would make lots of money and be able to pick and choose my job with a bachelor's degree
> I love it when people who don't even have the balls to post under a MEANINGLESS USERNAME make fun of other people's looks.
Maybe the nick isn't the problem. Maybe he has a link back to his own web site and doesn't want the world to know that they themselves are even more ugly that those he makes fun of.
Either way, he's probably ugly inside, which is worse.
Debian... It just works.
:)
Debian... When your job depends on it.
Speaking strictly on the server of course, not on the desktop
How is this on-topic? The poster asked for a CMS solution, not a recommendation to spend big bucks on a new computer only to use a proprietary version. He even provided open-source, non-platform-specific examples, and you fanboys STILL mention to get your "GO BUY A MAC" commented modded to +5.
> And this company ... Wants us to trust them to run our electorate system?
Ehh, does it really matter who gets into office? The DMCA remains, companies like MiSCOsoft still fund campaigns, and the RIAA ia allowed to continue to spread their evil globally. Like candidate A vs. candidate B ever really makes a difference. Their funding, kickbacks, and dividends all come from the same place - big corporations.
I love Samba, but in a data center? I guess my idea of a data center is the likes of Rackshack and DataPipe, of which have no use for Windows shares, but I suppose if your data center has a need for thousands of Windows shares... :/
SCP is the way for me.
Doc: No wonder this circuit failed. It says "Made in Japan".
Marty McFly: What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan.
Doc: Unbelievable.
> Root password split btween 3 persons, i.e. all three have to be present to log in as root..priceless
Was the password set by an individual who then gave each part to the respective person, or did each of the 3 type their own part of the password that they came up with? If it's the latter, it would be interesting to see what happened if one of the 3 people died. Neat idea though, and sounds like they had a good security policy.
> This can be a *big* problem for *nix/mac users which normally don't need or use AV software.
I don't think most major ISP would leave Mac users out in the cold, but I could easily see where they would give two rips about Lunix users (or require they upgrade to a "business" account which support such operating systems that were design to be used as "servers"). What I am more concerned with is freedom of choice:
> In an unusual alliance among staunch competitors, Cisco Systems will collaborate with three of the largest computer security firms to fight virus and worm attacks.
Ok, I see how it is. Your router creates more AV sales for us, so we give you a kickback. We both make more money! Meanwhile, the likes of AVG and Avast are left out in the cold, as are their users. Soon you will require a "Cisco license" to release Anti Virus software if you want it to work for the masses, for a fee of course.
And what about personal routers/firewalls? Will we all have to upgrade to Cisco-AV(tm)-compliant home routers that report correctly to the ISP? Although this would be an extra expense (and I happen to like my SOHO router, thank you) I suppose it would allow you to run any sort of OS behind the firewall, include *nix.
I'll pass, and I hope my ISP does too.
> I likes my SpamAssassin, thanks ;^)
Me too. I especially like how the last job I applied for on Monster.com got bounced by the HR person's inbox by SpamAssasin because it "looked like spam". Maybe I used too many buzzwords in my resume...
Spam has made it difficult to set up legitimate servers to send legitimate e-mail to their indended recipients...
Exactly, get you hooked and then raise the price to $1.20/song once they have they have the whole world using WMA with DRM. There might be cheaper alternatives, but you'll be forced to use what "everybody else is using" just like Word documents.
> If they become interested in hacking, setting up a local honey pot and let them play around with it.
We are still talking about hacking, right?
> Out of curiosity, are you a fanatical religious moron?
Well, according to his web site, he is a student at BYU (which I believe is "spiritually themed") and he "recently returned from a full-time mission in Serbia and Bulgaria for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
He preaches about treating woman as objects, yet his religion promotes polygamy and child brides. Get real.