> If you're using IE, you're running a piece of software *on your machine* which is advertising and providing the ability for a web page to basically screw your system up.
Oh please. I dare to say there are quite a few Slashdotters who have NO problem running IE on a regular basis. I generally use IE at work and Phoenix at home, and I have NO problems. Everytime I get asked to install Comet or Bonzai buddy, I simply click "No". Sure, this might not be so obvious to the layperson, but your post was targetted at the Slashdot crowd.
I have an idea: All you geeks who have been DOSing Microsoft and RIAA.org unite and start on xupiter.com.
eMule is evil because it is seriously affecting eDonkey and Overnet performance. eDonkey is only good for private trading groups, IMO. Overnet is the ways to go, or Direct Connect rocks too if you have a shitload to share.
By the looks of the.NSF in their URL they are running Blowtus Goats (Lotus Notes to the lay-person who was lucky enough never to have worked with Lotus "databases"). I'd rather use MS Access through WINE on a Linux box with an AMD processor through a dialup connection.
LOL, while taking a break from typing this, I did a Netcraft lookup on their domain. It says, they are running Windows NT/98, which isn't too surprising, but this was:
"NT4/Windows 98 users include ABB Asea Brown Boveri Ltd, British Nuclear Fuels Ltd and Ernst & Young International"
I guess Chernobyl can't blame their disaster on a BSOD, but maybe these guys can. I mean, christ, upgrade to Millenium Edition already.
I like Phoenix because I'm forced to switch between browsers a lot (thanks to my job). All the shortcut keys are similar between IE and Phoenix (unlike Mozilla). Alt-D puts me in the address bar (Ctrl-L in Moz), Shift-Click opens in a new window, and best of all, Ctrl-Enter in the address bar, as you said, works just like in IE. The consistency is handy if you use two different browser at the same time (like havign IE at home and Phoenix at work, as I imagine many of your employees will have).
> Well, for one thing, many companies (like Musicland, which owns Sam Goody, Suncoast, and other music stores) use OS/2 to manage their individual stores.
Well, I know those stores are a part of Best Buy, and IBM has been their supplier/consulting firm (as far as I know) since the beginning of time. Check out their IBM terminals and Lexmark printers next time you're in the store. Some semi-competent IBM salesman prolly talked them into it back when it was in its hey-day (sp?). Best Buy iteself seems to have migrated to Windows (looks like 9x) on their answer center computers, though.
Hah! Only a market droid could believe that spamming search engines and paying for unmarked higher ranks (thus polluting accuracy) make the Internet a better place.
What is it about their name that make me think of Barney Gumble? Perhaps Google should consult the legal advice of Mr. Search - "Call Mr. Search, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Search"
> Just like car-mounted UHF/VHF antennae drove the final nail in the coffin of FM radio?
Obviously the moderators of this post have never seen or used digital cable or satellite television. DirecTV comes with lots o' music stations. Plus, Internet access would allow for Internet radio as long as it lasts.
I didn't recompile kernel after installation RH and YDL in their last releases. All modules has been pre-installed and ready for being configured to start. Seems the problem is solved at least in leading commercial distros.
I don't think that's what the parent was getting at. Can I go to downloads.com and download my favorite (insert software product here) and double-click the executable to install it (out of the box)? This point also touches on your whole "wizards" argument.
Linux Evangelists Stop Insulting MS And Its Users.
Solved. *snip*
Oh please... No MS bashing here (or anywhere else). You do make a valid point about OS X zealots, though.
Butter substitutes are not allowed to be served in state prisons.
Citizens may not murder their enemies.
Whenever two trains meet at an intersection of said tracks, neither shall
proceed until the other has.
At one time, margarine was illegal.
State Law made it illegal to serve apple pie in public restaurants without
cheese.
The state definition of rape stated that it was a man having sex with a
woman he knows not to be his wife. That would mean that women could not be
guilty of rape and neither could men who thought they were married to the
woman.
While all cheese making requires a license, Limburger cheese making
requires a master cheese maker's license.
It is illegal to kiss on a train.
It is illegal to cut a woman's hair.
Car dealerships cannot sell cars on Sunday
In St. Croix, women are not allowed to wear anything red in public.
Most of these are unconfimred, but I know car dealership are closed in Wisconsin on Sunday, and I know we have some goofy provisions in the books on margarine restrictions (97.18(5) The serving of margarine to students, patients or inmates of any state institutions as a substitute for table butter is prohibited). I couldn't find references to the others, although the search function on the Wisconsin legislation site pretty worthless...
> the accidents caused by people using their cell phones while driving...
You anti-cell phone activists make me laugh. There are two types of people in the world: those who enjoy the convenience of a cell phone, and those who bitch about how dangerous they are in traffic.
It's the same with anything: those who like hunting, and those who preech about gun control. Those who like cigarettes and those who can't fathom why someone would want to pay to kill themselves (it's an entertainment expense, just like anything else).
It seems the only thing that makes a person for or against something is whether they use it or not. How about just being neutral and allowing those who enjoy it use their phone.
Ok, now bring on the sob stories about how your relative was killed by a drunk, rabid cell-phone user but the evil cell-phone user lived and your relative (who, incidentally, was 3 months away from graduation and pregnant with her 6th child) did not.
> Tons of poor people have cell phones. (This is a symptom of the cause of their poverty.)
I'm glad someone else noticed. I know someone who can never pay her electric and cable bill, yet every few months she seems to upgrade to the latest PDA cell phone and buys elaborate outfits for those rennaissance festivals. And this person has kids. Lack of priorities?
I've noticed this elsewhere too. Seems like some people are poor for a reason (but certainly not all, as I wasn't doing so well for a period and I was working my ass off looking for a job). Ok, now I'm sounding like my shit doesn't stink, but whatev.
> Would it be possible to have multiple lasers all burning at once to increase speed?
You may remember Zen Research who created the TrueX technology found in the old Kenwood 72x drives. I believe these used 7 heads for reading data. However, the technology seems to have died, along with the company. I remember reading reports of the drives not being 100% compatible, having speed issues, and having high failure rates.
I feel like you have described my experience with Linux exactly. I have come to like it now, though, on my "test" machine. I am able to do EVERYTHING I need on Linux that I do on Windows (finally) except video encoding. I haven't found a replacement for VirtualDUB that I like (although I'll admit I haven't looked very hard). I just like all the tools available for Windows and video encoding. Anyone get some serious MPEG4 encoding with a capture board setup and working well?
> I found Slackware unleashed an excellent Slack book for beginners.
That's assuming beginners should be using Slack as their first distro. I guess it depends on your savvy. Like many here, I'd recommend a Debian distro.
Anyway, I've found Linux Administration, A Beginner's Guide to be excellent. Most of the books I saw at the book store on "Beginning Linux" showed you how to use the latest outdated GUI on a specific distribution. Boring. I already know how to use Windows. The aforementioned book shows you how manage Linux from the command prompt in a very easy way. It assumes you know a little bit about computers (like what "users" are and file system basics like file types and permissions) but shows you how to get all the things you know how to do in Windows done at the Linux command line.
It is fairly platform independent too. It describes things like how to install programs via RPM or compiling from source in a very straightforward manner (as well as the difference and why you might need/want to do one or the other).
When you're done with it, it also makes a great reference. Very easy to find stuff you're looking for via the TOC or Index. Truely a great book.
Fair enough, but which fields are you speaking of? Accounting, History, Sociology, Mathematics perhaps? I don't see those as any more useful than a degree in IS or CS right now. Perhaps you are referring to the medical or engineering fields. Those areas aren't for me. So am I doomed to working loser jobs or going back to school to be a nurse or engineer?!
> Imagine a geek with _very_ expensive hardware tastes, who can't get a job, and even gets turned down by Jack in the Box due to lack of experience, despite the fact I spent 4 years working a register.
Wow, you're preaching to the choire, brother. You have basically described me exactly. After graduating from college, I got turned down for all the good jobs of course, but I even got turned down for a job at Sears and Lowe's despite having a little over 3 years experience doing customer service and register and a local hardware store. Best Buy finally gave me a job, but they don't care much for my bachelor's degree and I don't think I fit the corporate culture very well...
On the bright side, I have a girlfriend whom I love very much and have been serious with for quite some time. Best of all, she's a geek too (I saw her once take a wireless-enabled laptop to the shitter, which is something I have not done yet).
> I've never ran accross a site that "forced" its software on me.
You, like me, probably have your security settings set correctly. I've seen a lot of people turn their security to Low (to avoid all the annoying message boxes), which allows IE to install ActiveX content on the fly without asking. MAJOR MISTAKE.
I really hate IE asking me "Are you sure you want to view secure and unsecure content" or "the page you are about to view isn't encrypted" or whatever, but if you turn your security down to Medium-Low you ditch the annoying message boxes but still keep the ability to approve ActiveX content. Seems to be the sweet spot for me.
> Now, get off the stick & build the Alpha EV8+.
Hmmm, perhaps they don't care about Alpha anymore?
> If you're using IE, you're running a piece of software *on your machine* which is advertising and providing the ability for a web page to basically screw your system up.
Oh please. I dare to say there are quite a few Slashdotters who have NO problem running IE on a regular basis. I generally use IE at work and Phoenix at home, and I have NO problems. Everytime I get asked to install Comet or Bonzai buddy, I simply click "No". Sure, this might not be so obvious to the layperson, but your post was targetted at the Slashdot crowd.
I have an idea: All you geeks who have been DOSing Microsoft and RIAA.org unite and start on xupiter.com.
The following companies have also released new products recently:
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Microsoft,
Compaq,
3M,
Dupont,
Disney,
Ado
eMule is evil because it is seriously affecting eDonkey and Overnet performance. eDonkey is only good for private trading groups, IMO. Overnet is the ways to go, or Direct Connect rocks too if you have a shitload to share.
By the looks of the .NSF in their URL they are running Blowtus Goats (Lotus Notes to the lay-person who was lucky enough never to have worked with Lotus "databases"). I'd rather use MS Access through WINE on a Linux box with an AMD processor through a dialup connection.
LOL, while taking a break from typing this, I did a Netcraft lookup on their domain. It says, they are running Windows NT/98, which isn't too surprising, but this was:
"NT4/Windows 98 users include ABB Asea Brown Boveri Ltd, British Nuclear Fuels Ltd and Ernst & Young International"
I guess Chernobyl can't blame their disaster on a BSOD, but maybe these guys can. I mean, christ, upgrade to Millenium Edition already.
I like Phoenix because I'm forced to switch between browsers a lot (thanks to my job). All the shortcut keys are similar between IE and Phoenix (unlike Mozilla). Alt-D puts me in the address bar (Ctrl-L in Moz), Shift-Click opens in a new window, and best of all, Ctrl-Enter in the address bar, as you said, works just like in IE. The consistency is handy if you use two different browser at the same time (like havign IE at home and Phoenix at work, as I imagine many of your employees will have).
> Well, for one thing, many companies (like Musicland, which owns Sam Goody, Suncoast, and other music stores) use OS/2 to manage their individual stores.
Well, I know those stores are a part of Best Buy, and IBM has been their supplier/consulting firm (as far as I know) since the beginning of time. Check out their IBM terminals and Lexmark printers next time you're in the store. Some semi-competent IBM salesman prolly talked them into it back when it was in its hey-day (sp?). Best Buy iteself seems to have migrated to Windows (looks like 9x) on their answer center computers, though.
"SearchKing - Building a Better Internet"
Hah! Only a market droid could believe that spamming search engines and paying for unmarked higher ranks (thus polluting accuracy) make the Internet a better place.
What is it about their name that make me think of Barney Gumble? Perhaps Google should consult the legal advice of Mr. Search - "Call Mr. Search, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Search"
> Just like car-mounted UHF/VHF antennae drove the final nail in the coffin of FM radio?
Obviously the moderators of this post have never seen or used digital cable or satellite television. DirecTV comes with lots o' music stations. Plus, Internet access would allow for Internet radio as long as it lasts.
Binary Distributions For Everything.
I didn't recompile kernel after installation RH and YDL in their last releases. All modules has been pre-installed and ready for being configured to start. Seems the problem is solved at least in leading commercial distros.
I don't think that's what the parent was getting at. Can I go to downloads.com and download my favorite (insert software product here) and double-click the executable to install it (out of the box)? This point also touches on your whole "wizards" argument.
Linux Evangelists Stop Insulting MS And Its Users.
Solved. *snip*
Oh please... No MS bashing here (or anywhere else). You do make a valid point about OS X zealots, though.
Most of these are unconfimred, but I know car dealership are closed in Wisconsin on Sunday, and I know we have some goofy provisions in the books on margarine restrictions (97.18(5) The serving of margarine to students, patients or inmates of any state institutions as a substitute for table butter is prohibited). I couldn't find references to the others, although the search function on the Wisconsin legislation site pretty worthless...
> the accidents caused by people using their cell phones while driving...
You anti-cell phone activists make me laugh. There are two types of people in the world: those who enjoy the convenience of a cell phone, and those who bitch about how dangerous they are in traffic.
It's the same with anything: those who like hunting, and those who preech about gun control. Those who like cigarettes and those who can't fathom why someone would want to pay to kill themselves (it's an entertainment expense, just like anything else).
It seems the only thing that makes a person for or against something is whether they use it or not. How about just being neutral and allowing those who enjoy it use their phone.
Ok, now bring on the sob stories about how your relative was killed by a drunk, rabid cell-phone user but the evil cell-phone user lived and your relative (who, incidentally, was 3 months away from graduation and pregnant with her 6th child) did not.
> Tons of poor people have cell phones. (This is a symptom of the cause of their poverty.)
I'm glad someone else noticed. I know someone who can never pay her electric and cable bill, yet every few months she seems to upgrade to the latest PDA cell phone and buys elaborate outfits for those rennaissance festivals. And this person has kids. Lack of priorities?
I've noticed this elsewhere too. Seems like some people are poor for a reason (but certainly not all, as I wasn't doing so well for a period and I was working my ass off looking for a job). Ok, now I'm sounding like my shit doesn't stink, but whatev.
> Radioactive Christmas trees (Score:4, Funny)
Only on Slashdot could this be modded as 'Funny'. I suggest doing a Google search for "Chernobyl Pictures".
> Would it be possible to have multiple lasers all burning at once to increase speed?
You may remember Zen Research who created the TrueX technology found in the old Kenwood 72x drives. I believe these used 7 heads for reading data. However, the technology seems to have died, along with the company. I remember reading reports of the drives not being 100% compatible, having speed issues, and having high failure rates.
I feel like you have described my experience with Linux exactly. I have come to like it now, though, on my "test" machine. I am able to do EVERYTHING I need on Linux that I do on Windows (finally) except video encoding. I haven't found a replacement for VirtualDUB that I like (although I'll admit I haven't looked very hard). I just like all the tools available for Windows and video encoding. Anyone get some serious MPEG4 encoding with a capture board setup and working well?
If I remember correctly, 52x drives have been on the shelves for close to a month now, and I don't consider Best Buy to be early adopters.
> I found Slackware unleashed an excellent Slack book for beginners.
That's assuming beginners should be using Slack as their first distro. I guess it depends on your savvy. Like many here, I'd recommend a Debian distro.
Anyway, I've found Linux Administration, A Beginner's Guide to be excellent. Most of the books I saw at the book store on "Beginning Linux" showed you how to use the latest outdated GUI on a specific distribution. Boring. I already know how to use Windows. The aforementioned book shows you how manage Linux from the command prompt in a very easy way. It assumes you know a little bit about computers (like what "users" are and file system basics like file types and permissions) but shows you how to get all the things you know how to do in Windows done at the Linux command line.
It is fairly platform independent too. It describes things like how to install programs via RPM or compiling from source in a very straightforward manner (as well as the difference and why you might need/want to do one or the other).
When you're done with it, it also makes a great reference. Very easy to find stuff you're looking for via the TOC or Index. Truely a great book.
Fair enough, but which fields are you speaking of? Accounting, History, Sociology, Mathematics perhaps? I don't see those as any more useful than a degree in IS or CS right now. Perhaps you are referring to the medical or engineering fields. Those areas aren't for me. So am I doomed to working loser jobs or going back to school to be a nurse or engineer?!
*sigh* Always looking for the answer...
> I take a sceptical view of those people whose only claim to fame is a degree or certification.
So I guess the rest of us who graduated from college and can't get experience because nobody will hire us are fucked then.
If I wasn't supposed to go to college, what do you suggest I SHOULD have done after high school? College certainly hasn't paid off.
> He says that AMD's 64-bit chips will be comparatively priced to the 32-bit ones, and backwards compatible.
So in other words, the same chip with a new label? Or just the same perfomance?
> change the name to GNU Image Editor...
... GIMP!"
Perhaps we should ask Monty Python.
"We are the Developers Who Say
My coworkers are losers too. I'd rather just go clubbing by myself and meet some real poeple...
> Imagine a geek with _very_ expensive hardware tastes, who can't get a job, and even gets turned down by Jack in the Box due to lack of experience, despite the fact I spent 4 years working a register.
Wow, you're preaching to the choire, brother. You have basically described me exactly. After graduating from college, I got turned down for all the good jobs of course, but I even got turned down for a job at Sears and Lowe's despite having a little over 3 years experience doing customer service and register and a local hardware store. Best Buy finally gave me a job, but they don't care much for my bachelor's degree and I don't think I fit the corporate culture very well...
On the bright side, I have a girlfriend whom I love very much and have been serious with for quite some time. Best of all, she's a geek too (I saw her once take a wireless-enabled laptop to the shitter, which is something I have not done yet).
> I've never ran accross a site that "forced" its software on me.
You, like me, probably have your security settings set correctly. I've seen a lot of people turn their security to Low (to avoid all the annoying message boxes), which allows IE to install ActiveX content on the fly without asking. MAJOR MISTAKE.
I really hate IE asking me "Are you sure you want to view secure and unsecure content" or "the page you are about to view isn't encrypted" or whatever, but if you turn your security down to Medium-Low you ditch the annoying message boxes but still keep the ability to approve ActiveX content. Seems to be the sweet spot for me.
Either that, or just use Mozilla, which rocks.