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"Re:a new Sun? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 2003.09.21 14:47 (#7018985)
Asking people to die doesn't seem terribly useful. Perhaps you're not as intelligent as you'd like us to believe."
Stupid people need to die. There's too many of them as it is, and despite how stupid they are, far too many of them eventuially breed and the result is even MORE stupid people.
It's gotten to the point where Darwinian selection needs all the help it can get.
If one stupid person actually DOES die because of my encouragement, then the collective I.Q. of the Earth enjoys a collective increase. And if they die before they breed, so much the better.
So many idiots, no where NEAR enough opportunities for them to kill themselves.
"Noone seems to be talking about the danger that there are 40 pounds of Plutonium-238 (the most volatile form) on board this craft. Plunging into ever increasing pressure, no one knows for sure if this will cause a chain reaction, but the potential energy and temperatures are enormous."
You are an idiot. Please die. NOW!
Wipe the drool from your slack lips and have someone click HERE for you and read the facts.
Soon, RAMmodding will be all the rage. Get them really big, bright LEDs installed on the RAM.
And think of the gaming advantages, if you have bright enough LEDs, and can write an app to control them, you can flash them at the frequencies that induce seizures. Think of it! You can mess with other players at the LAN party and gain a tactical advantage as your opponents lay twitching and drooling by their computers.
I bought an Elecom MAPP mouse designed by Shirow Masamune via eBay, to use on my PowerMacintosh 5400/200.
It's an absolutely beautiful work of art, as well as being a fine mouse.
There are a couple of sources for it here in North America. JLIST has it, as do several other vendors. Google is your friend.
Despite the curious asymmetrical shape of the mouse, it's quite comfortable in the hand. You don't hold it, so much as you rest your hand on it. Even though it looks small, it fits my large gaijin hand very well.It's very light and moves with hardly any effort. The scrollwheel is made from some kind of soft polymer, just tacky enough to ensure a non-slip feel to it.
The mouse engine itself is 800ppi, I'm not sure how many times it images, though. The mouse cord is about 3 feet long, which is nice for when I sit back and use the mouse on my trouser leg.
I did need to get a PCI USB port card for the Mac, as well as USB Overdrive, a shareware driver for both Classic and OS X Mac OS's. It allows one to fully use all the buttons and wheels on a mouse or trackball or joystick.
One can also program each indivdual button for use in any application, as well as mouse pointer "speed". Slower for smaller screens or precise positioning, or faster for big screens.
It's well worth the modest US$20.00 shareware fee.
I did this years ago. I had a TeleType hooked to my Commodore 64 via the serial port.
The thing could dial into a local university, shell into my UNIX account, and then one could hack in a proper manly fashion, as God intended a man to hack.
Yellow paper curling around your feed, papertape running through the reader, and the comforting sounds and smells of a TeleType in full action.
"Another sea creature to Exploit and deplete from our oceans:("
OK, are you retarded or something?
I mean, seriously, are you?
Because that's the only reason I can think of for someone to say something so flipping stupid.
Look, it's simple. We takon one of these sponges apart and find out how it grows these fibers.
We snip out the genes for that and stick them in something else.
We turn those genes on and start harvesting fiber.
We are NOT going to harvest every single one of these sponges, individually seperate each 2 to 7 inch long fiber and splice them all together into one long cable.
OK, now, did you understand that? DID YOU?
If not, you really ARE stupid.
Please DIE. NOW! Before you breed more stupid people.
If all goes well, I'll have my ideal desk shortly, and for free, too!
It's a 1950's era Steelcase desk. Weighs a ton and has a desk surface area approximately that of a small aircraft carrier.
What makes it idea is that it has a swingaway typewriter platform on the left side. Pull out and push down and the scanner will disappear inside the desk, behind a door. That's where the scanner will live and if there's enough clearance when the scanner is stowed, the 10 GB external SCSI drive will be stashed there as well.
On the desktop, there will be more than enough room for the PowerMac 5400/200, modem, speakers, mouse, telephone, LaserWriter, Palm cradle, Hello Kitty USB hub, CD rack, plastic file folder holders, red stapler, mug full of pens, coaster for the can of Red Bull, slide rule, calculators, diverse reference books and manuals, diverse desk tools, Initech mouse pad, et al, etc.
Now, to find a used Aeron chair for sale in the Boston area for US$150 or so.
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So tsa sez:
"Three buttons and a wheel are ugly too."
Well, if you buy a Microsoft three button/scrollwheel mouse or it's impostinators, yeah, they're as ugly as original sin.
Spend some money and get something with style and character, like this.
In other words, if you don't buy two coffees a month from Charbucks, and instead put that money in a jar or an envelope, after a year, you can buy the new Mac OS.
So, what's it going to be? Two cups of crappy, overroasted coffee a month, or a better OS?
"However, Apple hardware remains quite usable for years after x86 hardware becomes "obsolete and/or end of life".
That's entirely a personal perspective.
Oh? Read my profile. I'm still using my Commodore 128 for a lot of things. Games, letterwriting and mailing labels for the most part. If I install the TCP/IP stack, I could use it with my ISP. If I plug in the Ethernet interface, I could even go 802.11b wireless with it.
Hardware that still works is still usable, and can still be usuable at a higher level than the average WIndows drone could possibly imagine.
My mother is still using the same system she bought in 1998. I suspect she'll continue using it until it dies.
And is there any reason she shouldn't use it until it dies? You make it sound as if using a 6 year old computer is somehow eccentric.
You do not get twice the lifespan out of your hardware - thinking that is bullshit. If you don't upgrade your software than - surprise - your hardware needs are unlikely to increase and you can keep using it.
And why do we all need to upgrade our software? Eudora Pro 4.3.3 works just splendidly on my Mac 5400/200. What reason is there for me to buy Eudora Pro 5? The 68k version of iCab works nicely on my PowerBook 165c, as does Eudora Pro 3. Is there any really over-riding reason for me to buy a new PowerBook?
I know why Windows users have to upgrade their software constantly, but then, most Windows users are, perhaps, not quite the brightest of God's creatures
.
Should I even mention how quickly PC hardware decreases in price relative to Apple hardware?
The average price of the 5400/180-200 on eBay seems to be in the US$100.00 range. But what does the market price for used hardware have to do with it's useful life? If you're claiming that Wintel hardware depreciates fasters than Mac hardware, well, what does that say about Wintel hardware? That the market considers it worth less than comparable Apple hardware? How perceptive of you!
A mere three months can result in half the price for the same system.
And what does that say about how the market views the worth of the Wintel platform? But I repeat myself.
That certainly can't be said for Apple hardware, and it's not a matter of it holding its value better - it's called artificial price inflation.
Curse Apple and that Evil Genius, Steve Jobs, for building hardware that people value more than Wintel! Curse him and all his progeny unto the 9th generation!
My Mac 5400/200 works just fine. It's 6 years old or so. Currently has 88 MB of RAM. Runs at 200 Mhz. If I hadn't told you that, you'd have no way of knowing what I'm using right now. For all you know, someone right now is reading/. and posting messages via a VT100 terminal and a 2400 baud modem via dial up shell account.
My software for email, web, USENET, graphics work, MP3, streaming media, et al, etc. all work spendidly. Why do I need to upgrade the software? Since I'm not locked into the MS paradigm, I don't need to constantly buy new hardware to run the new software I must buy in order to stay current.
That's a sucker's game.
When I get around to it, I'll eventually install a second 64MB of RAM. Probably install the TV/FM Tuner packaage and a dual USB/FireWire port card in the PCI slot, and maybe even OS 9. But if I don't do any of that, as long as the machine boots, it's still quite useable and will be until the day Something Terrible happens to it. And on that day, I'll pull the Performa 6300CD and a monitor out of the closet and use that until I can find a replacement for the 5400/200.
I tell you, staying well behind the Bleeding Edge of Wintel is a very pleasant, comfortable place to be. No viri, no file format incompatibilities, no constant downloading of security patches.
"...And their (Apple's) hardware is still 1.5-2x the price of PC hardware, for less performance. Don't even try to indicate that Apple isn't raping their customers as bad, if not worse, than Microsoft."
However, Apple hardware remains quite usable for years after x86 hardware becomes "obsolete and/or end of life".
Look, I'm using a PowerMac 5400/200. It's got 88MB of RAM and runs at 200Mhz.
It was introduced February 1997, discontinued March 1998. So it's anywhere from 5 to 6 years old.
This will still be quite usable for another 5 years or so. Sure, I can't run OSX. Boo hoo hoo. But there's nothing preventing me from running Yellow Dog linux, for example.
When I get around to eventually installing more RAM, OS 9 and a dual USB/FireWire port PCI card in it, it'll be even more usable and extend it's usable lifespan even more, thanks to being able to use USB and FireWire peripherals.
I know of quite a few first generation PowerMacs that are still in daily, productive use.
I even know of more than a few 68k Macs still working every day as mail servers, et al.
Yes, Apple hardware IS more expensive than similar Winel hardware. But the Apple hardware has a substantially LONGER useful lifespan than the Wintel hardware.
"Actually the cost run ups comes from DOD folks who specify the requirements for the hammer. I once saw a 17 page spec from the DOD for fruitcake. These guys are so disconnected from reality because they're not driven by cost concerns."
Oh, yes! That,too! Just think about that for a minute. 17 pages to describe a DoD approved fruitcake.
And that generates even MORE paperwork certifying that the fruitcakes supplied to the DoD fully comply with the spec.
You know, for some things, like fruitcake, it'd be SO much cheaper to just buy them wholesale from whatever baker can provide a fruitcake that's good enough for civilians to buy and eat.
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In this Macintosh-only household the browser of choice is iCab!
The ONLY time I use IE is for the few times I have to access my bank's website and mess with my accounts online. As my bank is stupid beyond words, their website is IE only.
For everything else, I use iCab.
"Re:a new Sun? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 2003.09.21 14:47 (#7018985)
Asking people to die doesn't seem terribly useful. Perhaps you're not as intelligent as you'd like us to believe."
Stupid people need to die. There's too many of them as it is, and despite how stupid they are, far too many of them eventuially breed and the result is even MORE stupid people.
It's gotten to the point where Darwinian selection needs all the help it can get.
If one stupid person actually DOES die because of my encouragement, then the collective I.Q. of the Earth enjoys a collective increase. And if they die before they breed, so much the better.
So many idiots, no where NEAR enough opportunities for them to kill themselves.
"a new Sun? (Score:-1, Troll)
by kfort (1132) on 2003.09.21 14:10 (#7018761)"
Ha-HA!
I bet YOU feel like an Inamate Carbon Rod right now.
"Noone seems to be talking about the danger that there are 40 pounds of Plutonium-238 (the most volatile form) on board this craft. Plunging into ever increasing pressure, no one knows for sure if this will cause a chain reaction, but the potential energy and temperatures are enormous."
You are an idiot. Please die. NOW!
Wipe the drool from your slack lips and have someone click HERE for you and read the facts.
Oh, and don't forget to please die, NOW!
Thank you kindly.
The LEDs aren't bright enough!
Soon, RAMmodding will be all the rage. Get them really big, bright LEDs installed on the RAM.
And think of the gaming advantages, if you have bright enough LEDs, and can write an app to control them, you can flash them at the frequencies that induce seizures. Think of it! You can mess with other players at the LAN party and gain a tactical advantage as your opponents lay twitching and drooling by their computers.
I bought an Elecom MAPP mouse designed by Shirow Masamune via eBay, to use on my PowerMacintosh 5400/200.
It's an absolutely beautiful work of art, as well as being a fine mouse.
There are a couple of sources for it here in North America. JLIST has it, as do several other vendors. Google is your friend.
Despite the curious asymmetrical shape of the mouse, it's quite comfortable in the hand. You don't hold it, so much as you rest your hand on it. Even though it looks small, it fits my large gaijin hand very well.It's very light and moves with hardly any effort. The scrollwheel is made from some kind of soft polymer, just tacky enough to ensure a non-slip feel to it.
The mouse engine itself is 800ppi, I'm not sure how many times it images, though. The mouse cord is about 3 feet long, which is nice for when I sit back and use the mouse on my trouser leg.
I did need to get a PCI USB port card for the Mac, as well as USB Overdrive, a shareware driver for both Classic and OS X Mac OS's. It allows one to fully use all the buttons and wheels on a mouse or trackball or joystick.
One can also program each indivdual button for use in any application, as well as mouse pointer "speed". Slower for smaller screens or precise positioning, or faster for big screens.
It's well worth the modest US$20.00 shareware fee.
blakespot, I have one of those Elecom/Shirow-san mice hooked up to my Macintosh.
Let me tell you, this is one sweet mouse! Works very well, and heck, it looks just so damn cool!
Most mice are just boring looking hunks of plastic. This is a work of art.
Domo Arigato, Shirow-san and Elecom!
Um, I think I mention some actress and something about soviet russia, oh, and your base is something or other.
Ah, screw it, I'll just blog it.
I'm using iCab under Mac OS 8.6.
Click one radio button in the JavaScript preferences and no more pop ups, ever!
iCab rocks under the Classic Mac operating systems and is also available an OS X native application.
Opera 6 also has a pop up killing option, but it's kind of clunky with older slower Macs running OS 8/OS 9.
Damn you to the bloody bowels of HELL, mph, for beating me to that Simpsons meta quote!
Still and all, well done, sir!
See! The Freemasons are EVERYWHERE! They censored the URL!
Either that, or I screwed up.
THIS is the URL I messed up on.
Sorry about that!
What is this "The Preview Button" you speak of? Your words confuse me.
So FrostedWheat sez:
"Dropping the spacecraft into the planet just seems wrong! It's like flushing a dead goldfish down the toilet!"
Oh, there's a reason that Galileo is crashing into Jupiter.
The Freemasons want to ignite Jupiter into a star.
It's all here:
It's a long chunk of PRIMO crackpottery, but keep reading, you'll get to the good bits about Galileo.
Just adjust your tinfoil hat accordingly. You don't want THM knowing that you're onto their plans!
So FrostedWheat sez:
"Dropping the spacecraft into the planet just seems wrong! It's like flushing a dead goldfish down the toilet!"
Oh, there's a reason that Galileo is crashing into Jupiter.
The Freemasons want to ignite Jupiter into a star.
It's all here:
It's a long chunk of PRIMO crackpottery, but keep reading, you'll get to the good bits about Galileo.
Just adjust your tinfoil hat accordingly. You don't want THM knowing that you're onto their plans!
I did this years ago. I had a TeleType hooked to my Commodore 64 via the serial port.
The thing could dial into a local university, shell into my UNIX account, and then one could hack in a proper manly fashion, as God intended a man to hack.
Yellow paper curling around your feed, papertape running through the reader, and the comforting sounds and smells of a TeleType in full action.
You kids, you don't know what you're missing.
So vnv sez:
Something or other. I wasn't paying attention, as I was too busy REVVING THE MOTOR OF MY HUMMER!
Now SHUT UP and consume MORE AMERICAN CULTURE AND PRODUCTS!
I swear, you foreigners just don't know your place in the grand scheme of things.
So jaxdahl sez:
"Yeah, but can you put a backhoe through one of these and still expect it to work? *That* will be the day!"
It's ORGANIC optic fiber. It'll HEAL itself by growing back together.
Well, no. Not at first. But give it time.
So NetNinja sez:
:("
"Another sea creature to Exploit and deplete from our oceans
OK, are you retarded or something?
I mean, seriously, are you?
Because that's the only reason I can think of for someone to say something so flipping stupid.
Look, it's simple. We takon one of these sponges apart and find out how it grows these fibers.
We snip out the genes for that and stick them in something else.
We turn those genes on and start harvesting fiber.
We are NOT going to harvest every single one of these sponges, individually seperate each 2 to 7 inch long fiber and splice them all together into one long cable.
OK, now, did you understand that? DID YOU?
If not, you really ARE stupid.
Please DIE. NOW! Before you breed more stupid people.
Thank you.
If all goes well, I'll have my ideal desk shortly, and for free, too!
It's a 1950's era Steelcase desk. Weighs a ton and has a desk surface area approximately that of a small aircraft carrier.
What makes it idea is that it has a swingaway typewriter platform on the left side. Pull out and push down and the scanner will disappear inside the desk, behind a door. That's where the scanner will live and if there's enough clearance when the scanner is stowed, the 10 GB external SCSI drive will be stashed there as well.
On the desktop, there will be more than enough room for the PowerMac 5400/200, modem, speakers, mouse, telephone, LaserWriter, Palm cradle, Hello Kitty USB hub, CD rack, plastic file folder holders, red stapler, mug full of pens, coaster for the can of Red Bull, slide rule, calculators, diverse reference books and manuals, diverse desk tools, Initech mouse pad, et al, etc.
Now, to find a used Aeron chair for sale in the Boston area for US$150 or so.
So tsa sez:
"Three buttons and a wheel are ugly too."
Well, if you buy a Microsoft three button/scrollwheel mouse or it's impostinators, yeah, they're as ugly as original sin.
Spend some money and get something with style and character, like this.
Man from Nantucket
bought Internet penis pills
He can't hear you now.
So cgenman sez:
"A real modder's version complete with unnecessary blue LEDs."
Dude, blue LEDs are NEVER unnecessary!
So TheRaven64 sez:
"Can I just have one cup of coffee, and every alternate OS X release?"
But of course! "Drink Different!"
$129.00 12 = $10.75 per month.
In other words, if you don't buy two coffees a month from Charbucks, and instead put that money in a jar or an envelope, after a year, you can buy the new Mac OS.
So, what's it going to be? Two cups of crappy, overroasted coffee a month, or a better OS?
Your choice, hepkats and hipkittens!
"However, Apple hardware remains quite usable for years after x86 hardware becomes "obsolete and/or end of life".
That's entirely a personal perspective.
Oh? Read my profile. I'm still using my Commodore 128 for a lot of things. Games, letterwriting and mailing labels for the most part. If I install the TCP/IP stack, I could use it with my ISP. If I plug in the Ethernet interface, I could even go 802.11b wireless with it.
Hardware that still works is still usable, and can still be usuable at a higher level than the average WIndows drone could possibly imagine.
My mother is still using the same system she bought in 1998. I suspect she'll continue using it until it dies.
And is there any reason she shouldn't use it until it dies? You make it sound as if using a 6 year old computer is somehow eccentric.
You do not get twice the lifespan out of your hardware - thinking that is bullshit. If you don't upgrade your software than - surprise - your hardware needs are unlikely to increase and you can keep using it.
And why do we all need to upgrade our software? Eudora Pro 4.3.3 works just splendidly on my Mac 5400/200. What reason is there for me to buy Eudora Pro 5? The 68k version of iCab works nicely on my PowerBook 165c, as does Eudora Pro 3. Is there any really over-riding reason for me to buy a new PowerBook?
I know why Windows users have to upgrade their software constantly, but then, most Windows users are, perhaps, not quite the brightest of God's creatures
. Should I even mention how quickly PC hardware decreases in price relative to Apple hardware?
The average price of the 5400/180-200 on eBay seems to be in the US$100.00 range. But what does the market price for used hardware have to do with it's useful life? If you're claiming that Wintel hardware depreciates fasters than Mac hardware, well, what does that say about Wintel hardware? That the market considers it worth less than comparable Apple hardware? How perceptive of you!
A mere three months can result in half the price for the same system.
And what does that say about how the market views the worth of the Wintel platform? But I repeat myself.
That certainly can't be said for Apple hardware, and it's not a matter of it holding its value better - it's called artificial price inflation.
Curse Apple and that Evil Genius, Steve Jobs, for building hardware that people value more than Wintel! Curse him and all his progeny unto the 9th generation!
My Mac 5400/200 works just fine. It's 6 years old or so. Currently has 88 MB of RAM. Runs at 200 Mhz. If I hadn't told you that, you'd have no way of knowing what I'm using right now. For all you know, someone right now is reading /. and posting messages via a VT100 terminal and a 2400 baud modem via dial up shell account.
My software for email, web, USENET, graphics work, MP3, streaming media, et al, etc. all work spendidly. Why do I need to upgrade the software? Since I'm not locked into the MS paradigm, I don't need to constantly buy new hardware to run the new software I must buy in order to stay current.
That's a sucker's game.
When I get around to it, I'll eventually install a second 64MB of RAM. Probably install the TV/FM Tuner packaage and a dual USB/FireWire port card in the PCI slot, and maybe even OS 9. But if I don't do any of that, as long as the machine boots, it's still quite useable and will be until the day Something Terrible happens to it. And on that day, I'll pull the Performa 6300CD and a monitor out of the closet and use that until I can find a replacement for the 5400/200.
I tell you, staying well behind the Bleeding Edge of Wintel is a very pleasant, comfortable place to be. No viri, no file format incompatibilities, no constant downloading of security patches.
So Zatrus sez:
"...And their (Apple's) hardware is still 1.5-2x the price of PC hardware, for less performance. Don't even try to indicate that Apple isn't raping their customers as bad, if not worse, than Microsoft."
However, Apple hardware remains quite usable for years after x86 hardware becomes "obsolete and/or end of life".
Look, I'm using a PowerMac 5400/200. It's got 88MB of RAM and runs at 200Mhz.
It was introduced February 1997, discontinued March 1998. So it's anywhere from 5 to 6 years old.
This will still be quite usable for another 5 years or so. Sure, I can't run OSX. Boo hoo hoo. But there's nothing preventing me from running Yellow Dog linux, for example.
When I get around to eventually installing more RAM, OS 9 and a dual USB/FireWire port PCI card in it, it'll be even more usable and extend it's usable lifespan even more, thanks to being able to use USB and FireWire peripherals.
I know of quite a few first generation PowerMacs that are still in daily, productive use.
I even know of more than a few 68k Macs still working every day as mail servers, et al.
Yes, Apple hardware IS more expensive than similar Winel hardware. But the Apple hardware has a substantially LONGER useful lifespan than the Wintel hardware.
So buckminsterinsd sez:
"Actually the cost run ups comes from DOD folks who specify the requirements for the hammer. I once saw a 17 page spec from the DOD for fruitcake. These guys are so disconnected from reality because they're not driven by cost concerns."
Oh, yes! That,too! Just think about that for a minute. 17 pages to describe a DoD approved fruitcake.
And that generates even MORE paperwork certifying that the fruitcakes supplied to the DoD fully comply with the spec.
You know, for some things, like fruitcake, it'd be SO much cheaper to just buy them wholesale from whatever baker can provide a fruitcake that's good enough for civilians to buy and eat.