I'm with all of the people suggesting you ask them what motivates them. You can set up an anonymous survey (a la SurveyMonkey or using Google Docs) where they can provide their feedback if you want it en masse (and not to seam like an interrogation).
I would suggest asking questions, not just giving them the "what motivates you" question. Things like: * What kind of office benefits are you most interested in (massages, breakfast/lunch/dinner, gym access, childcare, etc) * What kind of workspace benefits are you most interested in (access to more closed-door offices for conferences/meetings/private conversations, 2+ monitors, etc) * What kind of flexibility benefits are you most interested in (remote access, work from home days, flexible in-office hours, FedEx/20% time projects, etc) * If offered, which of the following rewards would interest you the most (project-based bonuses, quarterly bonuses, time off, more office/workspace/flexibility benefits, etc) * What type of review system are you most interested in (peer review, quarterly goals, management review, etc) * How satisfied are you with the current review system, current benefits, etc * What would you improve about the current review system, current benefits, etc
Most of those don't have one-off answers, they may be a ranking type thing where people are MOST motivated by something but would also be interested in something else.
As a manager of a team, it benefits you (or whoever their manager is) to motivate each team member individually, as their interests and motivators will NOT all be the same. The survey or data you gather will tell you how satisfied people are and give you an idea of some commonalities among your team members (like someone said, if the massages are totally useless, get rid of them).
Back when I was in college, studying Chemical Engineering, there were countless people in the department who really had *no clue* about how things actually worked, couldn't apply what they learned, and without a formula to solve the problem for them were absolutely lost. They couldn't visualize the problem, they couldn't visualize the solution, and they will make crappy engineers. But, you know what? They got good grades (similar to the situation you posed above -- they could do extra credit, adequate on tests, and get by), got internships, and then got decent jobs post- graduation (or went on to graduate programs). These people pissed me off to no end, regardless of their gender.
I think over time the scene will change -- she might get the internship now, but I doubt her project manager will go out of their way to give her a rave review. You might get a "lower class" internship, but if you've got a great reference out of it, have decent grades, and get into your first job, you'll forget about her. I doubt she'll go far in IT anyway. Just like all of those MCSEs who don't know WTF they are talking about and think they can get any IT job with those four letters.
I believe if he has the original e-mail/access to the server, you can tell who it *really* came from. I have had to do this several times for people in my company accusing me or someone else in the company of sending them Klez.
With Outhouse, full headers is not exactly inherently obvious, but they are there. If the CEO still has the original e-mail (which I imagine he does, otherwise there isn't really a case is there?), all someone has to do is look at them (or go to the server and dig up the record). Case closed...
Never mind all of those security holes in IRC that they ignored for about two months. They *just* released an update for that stuff and it had been floated on Bugtraq (and they were notified) quite a while ago.
Great for small files, but once you get big you start hitting things like syntax highlighting. Typing " without an end " means you WAIT for about 30 seconds while it highlights the entire rest of the file. EVERY TIME you type unless you are fast or insert the matching " before it freaks out.
I use Komodo because it's decent, but I think it needs to be faster, more flexible, and more functional to really be adopted as an IDE.
At my company, we purchase Dell OptiPlex GX240 systems and use them for decently-powered linux "network appliances" that house the top level of our managed security system.
We pretty much can't buy these systems without an OS. Recently we had to shift from Windows98 to Win2k, which actually isn't that bad considering the 98 licenses were absolutely useless (except for testing). Whenever I asked about a no-OS option, they said "sorry, you have your choice of XP or 2k, what will it be?".
We bring the boxes in, peel off the stickers, slap debian images on them, slap our software on them, and send them to customers. The license is just part of the added cost that we eat.
One option that we have not discussed yet with Dell is buying the machines pre-imaged with our own image... hopefully this is even possible on the OptiPlex line.
Anyway I also don't think the Dell servers are impacted. They weren't mentioned specifically, and they have always been treated differently than the desktop line.
It should probably be noted that this probably does not include PowerEdge servers. While I have never been able to figure out how to get an OptiPlex system without a Microsoft OS, I believe the servers will still offer the no-OS/linux OS option.
I didn't receive the e-mail, but the snippet above does not mention servers and they are usually handled differently.
finally I feel justified in calling DJ's luddites because they view anything that makes the tasks they mastered easier to do with disdain... no matter how much is added to the performer's range of options or how many new skills need to be mastered to use the new device, many still view CDJ's as "posers" and "not sexy" and "wouldn't pay to see that"
Sounds like linux vs. windows users. Or debian vs. Mandrake users.
I had the same experience at the Metreon when we were in the area for LinuxWorld. Several of the little gaming seats were crashed, frozen, or just not working (no joystick control even though the OS said it was there, things like that).
I also couldn't stand the scary breathing down your neck salespeople, but that's sort of OT.
I think MS is going to learn their lesson with the Xbox... you can't take design "risks" (or not think critically about your design) with hardware-based systems.
That would work well if Outlook Web Access were a decently fully featured replacement. This might work well for students, but for a company that utilizes things like the public folders, schedules, and calendaring parts of Exchange/Outlook, the full client is almost necessary.
The story mentions first 37 and 29 percent and then 15 and 17 percent, drawing HUGE differences -- Microsoft is referred to as nearly as trusted as online brokerages, while AOL is paraded as completely untrustable.
Is 2% (or even 8%) really that significant? It may seem huge, but it really depends on the survey size and how the questions are asked. Does anyone know more about how these surveys are done, their margins of error on average, etc?
I think they are jumping to conclusions on this one, unless they know more than they are telling. It almost seems like they are jumping on a "let's hate AOL" bandwagon. (Not that that's necessarily completely unfounded)
I don't know what debian you're using (you're probably not), but I run nothing but debian and I have kernel 2.4, glibc 2.2, and X 4.0. All from debian packages (the kernel was source, but compiled using make-kpkg).
It is nice to see a "friendlier" debian-based distro "for the masses" but that doesn't excuse people from the usual "debian is slow" and "debian only has OLD packages" crap.
This is pretty old news. We have had presentations about EUVL at the university here once or twice in the last year and there is quite a bit of literature dating back to the mid-90s (I did a paper on EUVL for a course in semiconductors).
It is nice to see it in Scientific American, but I think EUVL has been brought up in discussions of other NGLs here on/. The article does take a good broad perspective on the issues as they stand.
Intel has a paper on their website (if you can find it) that describes the process pretty straightforward as well (it might help the read to have a little bit of background).
Did you post this back in the right story (I couldn't find it)? If you didn't, please do. I think the other story needs it. Nobody else has mentioned squat about EUV and other NGLs (next generation lithographies).
(don't know how long that link will work, their web design isn't very efficient)
The president et al says they will not ban it until it is banned. Or so the newspaper says, and the newspaper is known for it's less than superior journalism (including how to write a sentence that makes sense). Their big point is that they will not presume that students are using the network for illegal activities, but students (by policy) can still get in trouble if they are "caught" copying copyrighted material. Like someone else mentioned earlier, I wonder how they would be caught?
While the university will almost immediately halt a user (by removing your net access) from running a game server or FTP server on their network, you can use napster all you want.
You can't use napster in the computer labs, though, as those are state computers and even more restricted.
We were one of the schools to get the infamous letter from the lawyers... both the student gov't and the residence hall association immediately enacted 'bills' to take an official stance against removing access to napster, although neither of them really control what happens on the network or university policy on such things. The RHA and ASWSU bills seem to more PR than policy oriented.
I think if we're going to package managers, we should standardize what they do: most importantly, file formats, how they deal with dependencies, how they interface with an installed database and a net-based database. I think if we go farther than that, it'll start to take away from the user preference part (I like dpkg, others like rpm... if they both used the same file types, we'd be in much more business than alien provides).
WinZip isn't really a good analogy, package managers not only provide the data, they install it, too (along with all the intermediate stuff like checking for dependencies and previous versions). WinZip on linux would be more like a graphical tar/gzip/zip/etc.
You know, for the most part, I think the issue is file interoperability between distributions and/or similar software... if dpkg and rpm could use the same files (successfully!) or if KDE and gnome could use the same files (for example), we'd be in business.
I think one of the big painful things is going to be the kernel and drivers. Recompiling the kernel may not be tough for me, but it's tough for a lot of people. Drivers some people can understand, but kernel modules? It's going to take some explaining.
For the most part, kernel versions aren't that big a deal between major versions, but I *do* have to ask if someone's using a 2.0 or a 2.2 kernel (at least) before I can help them out with some things. The biggies I think you mentioned, which version of X, which version of kernel, which version of glibc. Maybe if there was some sort of system tool that was universal that told you all of this information without having to scramble for it, it'd really help some of these people out. Some kind of simple shell script even.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. I do agree that there is a need for some semblance of standards to not push distributions too far away from each other, but I think we have to be *very* careful about it.
It seems like a lot of the windows-y people coming to linux want to see linux look/feel/act like windows without looking into what linux has for itself, and where it's going on it's own. The only other part of the article(s) that I couldn't stand was the "even your parents, sister, or girlfriend" could use it gem. Excuse me, but my sister is pretty damn smart, and it is I who teaches my husband about linux. *snort*
If I had moderator points that I could use, I'd give you a +1 for your contribution.
I guess the picture of the "linux konsole" answers how he really feels about standards. I certainly don't have a "konsole" on my machine.
Some of the things he says are based ONLY on opinion, others are facts thrown in so he can sound cool to both the windows folks and the linux folks. ugh.
My problem with the article is the talk of "standards". In section 3 (standards), he says: Many people are working to create standards today such as the Linux Standards Board or LSB. This group is working to create standards for how Linux operates. While the lack of standards is an area that threatens to kill Linux right now, it is changing dramatically as the OS becomes more mainstream.
Later, in section #10 (distributions and open sourcce), he says: You have no options as to how Windows 98 will look, act, or what applications will be included.
and
With Linux however, that product can be specialized to give your customers EXACTLY what you or they want. Furthermore, you are never stuck with a single vendor.
So, because windows has so many "standards", it's light years ahead of linux in that department. But because of those "standards", you are stuck buying from one vendor. Hello.
When we start to have "standards" aren't we erasing the choices that many of us make that make our systems different but also make them *ours*? I don't like KDE and I don't like enlightenment, but somehow these have become "standard" to new users as to what a window manager and a desktop environment are. They never got to make the choice. Some people are the same way with their feelings about bash, but it's the majority of default shells on linux distributions.
I think the LSB and others that have standards goals need to be more specific as to what these standards are. Are they something like "a distribution must contain these applications and use these environments" or "a desktop environment must have these features"?
I think "standards" can go too far. I don't *want* a unified linux. I don't want to be forced to use something I can't stand. I want to be able to choose the look and feel of my computer from numerous different vendors.
I don't think the "let's be like windows" solution is a good one.
dammit i used a greater than and a less than, and even though i said PLAIN TEXT they got eaten into tags!!
In the RPM for xfree3 it is probably stated (more or less) that you can't upgrade to xfree bigger than 3 with a straight -U... So, you probably have to uninstall 3 and then install 4.
There are a reviews in mp3.com's hardware section (hardware.mp3.com) of the aiwa and the kenwood (though the majority of the "reviewing" is done by user comments in the aiwa thread). Based on those comments, the kenwood is much more expensive but not worth the $350 price difference (apparently it doesn't have a detachable face, which seems odd).
The reason the aiwa is temp. out of stock is that they scrapped their design and decided to start over sometime earlier this year, delaying their release until late june/august.
Crutchfield and buyitnow.com are the only 2 places I've been able to find the aiwa cdc-mp3 online, both for the same price ($299).
They do support ID3 tags but not CD text, and play CDRs and CDRWs. The neatest little gadget, though, is the steering wheel remote;o)
Supposedly a guy on ebay will sell you a place to find it cheap for $1, also.
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I'm with all of the people suggesting you ask them what motivates them. You can set up an anonymous survey (a la SurveyMonkey or using Google Docs) where they can provide their feedback if you want it en masse (and not to seam like an interrogation).
I would suggest asking questions, not just giving them the "what motivates you" question. Things like:
* What kind of office benefits are you most interested in (massages, breakfast/lunch/dinner, gym access, childcare, etc)
* What kind of workspace benefits are you most interested in (access to more closed-door offices for conferences/meetings/private conversations, 2+ monitors, etc)
* What kind of flexibility benefits are you most interested in (remote access, work from home days, flexible in-office hours, FedEx/20% time projects, etc)
* If offered, which of the following rewards would interest you the most (project-based bonuses, quarterly bonuses, time off, more office/workspace/flexibility benefits, etc)
* What type of review system are you most interested in (peer review, quarterly goals, management review, etc)
* How satisfied are you with the current review system, current benefits, etc
* What would you improve about the current review system, current benefits, etc
Most of those don't have one-off answers, they may be a ranking type thing where people are MOST motivated by something but would also be interested in something else.
As a manager of a team, it benefits you (or whoever their manager is) to motivate each team member individually, as their interests and motivators will NOT all be the same. The survey or data you gather will tell you how satisfied people are and give you an idea of some commonalities among your team members (like someone said, if the massages are totally useless, get rid of them).
good luck!
I do not think this is unique to women.
Back when I was in college, studying Chemical Engineering, there were countless people in the department who really had *no clue* about how things actually worked, couldn't apply what they learned, and without a formula to solve the problem for them were absolutely lost. They couldn't visualize the problem, they couldn't visualize the solution, and they will make crappy engineers. But, you know what? They got good grades (similar to the situation you posed above -- they could do extra credit, adequate on tests, and get by), got internships, and then got decent jobs post- graduation (or went on to graduate programs). These people pissed me off to no end, regardless of their gender.
I think over time the scene will change -- she might get the internship now, but I doubt her project manager will go out of their way to give her a rave review. You might get a "lower class" internship, but if you've got a great reference out of it, have decent grades, and get into your first job, you'll forget about her. I doubt she'll go far in IT anyway. Just like all of those MCSEs who don't know WTF they are talking about and think they can get any IT job with those four letters.
I believe if he has the original e-mail/access to the server, you can tell who it *really* came from. I have had to do this several times for people in my company accusing me or someone else in the company of sending them Klez.
With Outhouse, full headers is not exactly inherently obvious, but they are there. If the CEO still has the original e-mail (which I imagine he does, otherwise there isn't really a case is there?), all someone has to do is look at them (or go to the server and dig up the record). Case closed...
Never mind all of those security holes in IRC that they ignored for about two months. They *just* released an update for that stuff and it had been floated on Bugtraq (and they were notified) quite a while ago.
SecurityFocus Search
Do a search for "trillian". They seem to have a problem with buffer overflows.
Great for small files, but once you get big you start hitting things like syntax highlighting. Typing " without an end " means you WAIT for about 30 seconds while it highlights the entire rest of the file. EVERY TIME you type unless you are fast or insert the matching " before it freaks out.
I use Komodo because it's decent, but I think it needs to be faster, more flexible, and more functional to really be adopted as an IDE.
At my company, we purchase Dell OptiPlex GX240 systems and use them for decently-powered linux "network appliances" that house the top level of our managed security system.
We pretty much can't buy these systems without an OS. Recently we had to shift from Windows98 to Win2k, which actually isn't that bad considering the 98 licenses were absolutely useless (except for testing). Whenever I asked about a no-OS option, they said "sorry, you have your choice of XP or 2k, what will it be?".
We bring the boxes in, peel off the stickers, slap debian images on them, slap our software on them, and send them to customers. The license is just part of the added cost that we eat.
One option that we have not discussed yet with Dell is buying the machines pre-imaged with our own image... hopefully this is even possible on the OptiPlex line.
Anyway I also don't think the Dell servers are impacted. They weren't mentioned specifically, and they have always been treated differently than the desktop line.
It should probably be noted that this probably does not include PowerEdge servers. While I have never been able to figure out how to get an OptiPlex system without a Microsoft OS, I believe the servers will still offer the no-OS/linux OS option.
I didn't receive the e-mail, but the snippet above does not mention servers and they are usually handled differently.
Sounds like linux vs. windows users.
Or debian vs. Mandrake users.
Some of them certainly do.
http://linuxchix.org
I had the same experience at the Metreon when we were in the area for LinuxWorld. Several of the little gaming seats were crashed, frozen, or just not working (no joystick control even though the OS said it was there, things like that).
I also couldn't stand the scary breathing down your neck salespeople, but that's sort of OT.
I think MS is going to learn their lesson with the Xbox... you can't take design "risks" (or not think critically about your design) with hardware-based systems.
That would work well if Outlook Web Access were a decently fully featured replacement. This might work well for students, but for a company that utilizes things like the public folders, schedules, and calendaring parts of Exchange/Outlook, the full client is almost necessary.
The story mentions first 37 and 29 percent and then 15 and 17 percent, drawing HUGE differences -- Microsoft is referred to as nearly as trusted as online brokerages, while AOL is paraded as completely untrustable.
Is 2% (or even 8%) really that significant? It may seem huge, but it really depends on the survey size and how the questions are asked. Does anyone know more about how these surveys are done, their margins of error on average, etc?
I think they are jumping to conclusions on this one, unless they know more than they are telling. It almost seems like they are jumping on a "let's hate AOL" bandwagon. (Not that that's necessarily completely unfounded)
-nicole
I don't know what debian you're using (you're probably not), but I run nothing but debian and I have kernel 2.4, glibc 2.2, and X 4.0. All from debian packages (the kernel was source, but compiled using make-kpkg).
It is nice to see a "friendlier" debian-based distro "for the masses" but that doesn't excuse people from the usual "debian is slow" and "debian only has OLD packages" crap.
-nicole
Will the new museum have $25 admission, too? It's the only thing keeping me from going to the EMP.
-nicole
It is nice to see it in Scientific American, but I think EUVL has been brought up in discussions of other NGLs here on /. The article does take a good broad perspective on the issues as they stand.
Intel has a paper on their website (if you can find it) that describes the process pretty straightforward as well (it might help the read to have a little bit of background).
Here is that and some other URLs:
a rticles/art_4.htm
u nd.html
e w/Highlights/1998/ALS_chips.html
s ld001.htm
. html
% 20lithography
http://www.llnl.gov/str/Sweeney.html
http://developer.intel.com/technology/itj/q31998/
http://lithonet.eecs.berkeley.edu/network/backgro
http://lasers.llnl.gov/IST/euvl.html
http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Research-Revi
http://chomsky.stanford.edu/~kevbert/neha_poster/
http://www.cr.org/publications/MSM2000/html/W3202
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=EUV
-nicole
Try http://www.debian.org/security/2001/dsa-027.
Did you post this back in the right story (I couldn't find it)? If you didn't, please do. I think the other story needs it. Nobody else has mentioned squat about EUV and other NGLs (next generation lithographies).
ha-ha!.
(don't know how long that link will work, their web design isn't very efficient)
The president et al says they will not ban it until it is banned. Or so the newspaper says, and the newspaper is known for it's less than superior journalism (including how to write a sentence that makes sense). Their big point is that they will not presume that students are using the network for illegal activities, but students (by policy) can still get in trouble if they are "caught" copying copyrighted material. Like someone else mentioned earlier, I wonder how they would be caught?
While the university will almost immediately halt a user (by removing your net access) from running a game server or FTP server on their network, you can use napster all you want.
You can't use napster in the computer labs, though, as those are state computers and even more restricted.
We were one of the schools to get the infamous letter from the lawyers... both the student gov't and the residence hall association immediately enacted 'bills' to take an official stance against removing access to napster, although neither of them really control what happens on the network or university policy on such things. The RHA and ASWSU bills seem to more PR than policy oriented.
-nicole
I think if we're going to package managers, we should standardize what they do: most importantly, file formats, how they deal with dependencies, how they interface with an installed database and a net-based database. I think if we go farther than that, it'll start to take away from the user preference part (I like dpkg, others like rpm... if they both used the same file types, we'd be in much more business than alien provides).
WinZip isn't really a good analogy, package managers not only provide the data, they install it, too (along with all the intermediate stuff like checking for dependencies and previous versions). WinZip on linux would be more like a graphical tar/gzip/zip/etc.
You know, for the most part, I think the issue is file interoperability between distributions and/or similar software... if dpkg and rpm could use the same files (successfully!) or if KDE and gnome could use the same files (for example), we'd be in business.
I think one of the big painful things is going to be the kernel and drivers. Recompiling the kernel may not be tough for me, but it's tough for a lot of people. Drivers some people can understand, but kernel modules? It's going to take some explaining.
For the most part, kernel versions aren't that big a deal between major versions, but I *do* have to ask if someone's using a 2.0 or a 2.2 kernel (at least) before I can help them out with some things. The biggies I think you mentioned, which version of X, which version of kernel, which version of glibc. Maybe if there was some sort of system tool that was universal that told you all of this information without having to scramble for it, it'd really help some of these people out. Some kind of simple shell script even.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. I do agree that there is a need for some semblance of standards to not push distributions too far away from each other, but I think we have to be *very* careful about it.
It seems like a lot of the windows-y people coming to linux want to see linux look/feel/act like windows without looking into what linux has for itself, and where it's going on it's own. The only other part of the article(s) that I couldn't stand was the "even your parents, sister, or girlfriend" could use it gem. Excuse me, but my sister is pretty damn smart, and it is I who teaches my husband about linux. *snort*
If I had moderator points that I could use, I'd give you a +1 for your contribution.
-n
I guess the picture of the "linux konsole" answers how he really feels about standards. I certainly don't have a "konsole" on my machine.
Some of the things he says are based ONLY on opinion, others are facts thrown in so he can sound cool to both the windows folks and the linux folks. ugh.
-n
My problem with the article is the talk of "standards". In section 3 (standards), he says:
Many people are working to create standards today such as the Linux Standards Board or LSB. This group is working to create standards for how Linux operates. While the lack of standards is an area that threatens to kill Linux right now, it is changing dramatically as the OS becomes more mainstream.
Later, in section #10 (distributions and open sourcce), he says:
You have no options as to how Windows 98 will look, act, or what applications will be included.
and
With Linux however, that product can be specialized to give your customers EXACTLY what you or they want. Furthermore, you are never stuck with a single vendor.
So, because windows has so many "standards", it's light years ahead of linux in that department. But because of those "standards", you are stuck buying from one vendor. Hello.
When we start to have "standards" aren't we erasing the choices that many of us make that make our systems different but also make them *ours*? I don't like KDE and I don't like enlightenment, but somehow these have become "standard" to new users as to what a window manager and a desktop environment are. They never got to make the choice. Some people are the same way with their feelings about bash, but it's the majority of default shells on linux distributions.
I think the LSB and others that have standards goals need to be more specific as to what these standards are. Are they something like "a distribution must contain these applications and use these environments" or "a desktop environment must have these features"?
I think "standards" can go too far. I don't *want* a unified linux. I don't want to be forced to use something I can't stand. I want to be able to choose the look and feel of my computer from numerous different vendors.
I don't think the "let's be like windows" solution is a good one.
-nicole
dammit i used a greater than and a less than, and even though i said PLAIN TEXT they got eaten into tags!!
In the RPM for xfree3 it is probably stated (more or less) that you can't upgrade to xfree bigger than 3 with a straight -U... So, you probably have to uninstall 3 and then install 4.
blah
My guess is that in the rpm for xfree = 4 with a straight -U. So, you probably have to UNinstall 3 and then install 4.
;o))
(be sure to back up your config for 3, it will be overwritten
There are a reviews in mp3.com's hardware section (hardware.mp3.com) of the aiwa and the kenwood (though the majority of the "reviewing" is done by user comments in the aiwa thread). Based on those comments, the kenwood is much more expensive but not worth the $350 price difference (apparently it doesn't have a detachable face, which seems odd).
;o)
The reason the aiwa is temp. out of stock is that they scrapped their design and decided to start over sometime earlier this year, delaying their release until late june/august.
Crutchfield and buyitnow.com are the only 2 places I've been able to find the aiwa cdc-mp3 online, both for the same price ($299).
They do support ID3 tags but not CD text, and play CDRs and CDRWs. The neatest little gadget, though, is the steering wheel remote
Supposedly a guy on ebay will sell you a place to find it cheap for $1, also.
-nicole