Moron. You increase the number of people on each airplane. Bigger airplanes.
Ain't that simple. "Bigger airplanes" assumes that the longer runways that can accommodate those larger planes aren't already maxed out. In the event that there is room to accommodate those planes, the airport has to account for new wake separation procedures. There's also the issue of whether the markets served by the airline are appropriate for larger planes. Finally, larger planes are in many (but not all) cases louder than smaller planes, and that results in environmental issues that are similar to those building new runways.
At best, "Bigger airplanes" is a stop-gap solution.
Airport capacity is measured in landings/takeoffs per hour.
Exactly. Which means to increase capacity, you have to increase the number of landings and takeoffs per hour. That means a) new runways, or b) new airports. That's really difficult to do these days, hence my point.
Bay Area and LA-area airports are at or near capacity, and will be bursting at the seams in the next 15-20 years. Expanding capacity by adding new runways or building new airports will cost tens of billions of dollars (DIA cost $3 billion, and that was for building an airport in the middle of nowhere almost 20 years ago that handles less traffic than LAX does). Furthermore, air travel can be affected by weather (fog, thunderstorms, in CA's case) that doesn't affect rail
Transportation options are important, there is no single perfect mode.
And what does a gathering place for nerds and geeks have to do with the statement "a cultural difference where American black culture has a much lower opinion on average of nerdy endeavors as opposed to American white culture"? Especially when blacks also attend Comic-con as well as gatherings targeted toward blacks.
Yeah, I didn't really think I had to spell the whole thing out. Nerd = person involved in study/non sporty/uncool activities. Person who is not involved in the world of higher education/going to school/giving a shit about school != nerd culture.
Yeah I got that, but what does that (and you're links) have to do with the assertion of "black culture" being "generally anti nerd"? Low achievement does not automatically mean 'not giving a shit about school.'
I might check it out, but I'm not saying there's a cultural difference [,,]
Than why bother singling out "black culture"?
I'm not comparing black with white, but 2 parents vs 1 parent, hence the similarity with white kids in the same situation. In the UK there are more black kids in that situation.
Sure, but that's an economic problem, not a racial problem, it just happens to fall on racial lines. Attributing differences to "black culture" being "anti nerd" is an unsupported assertion.
Your first link talks about blacks living in single-parent homes, the second link talks about an achievement gap. Neither link supports the claim of blacks being "anti nerd".
Shifting back to the USA for a second, a literature review found that the primary negative effect of being in a single-parent household is the loss of the second income, and that when income is controlled for: "the association between negative outcomes and living in a single-parent home is often substantially reduced."
In terms urging "parents of under-achieving ethnic minority pupils to get more involved in their children's education" (your 2nd link), if you have the time, take a listen to this (again, US-centric) where Prof Harris mentions that there isn't much of a difference between the involvement of whites and blacks in their children's education, the problem is that blacks tend to be more punitive in their involvement rather than being helpful when children underachieve (e.g. "you got a 'C' so you're grounded" vs "you got a 'C', what do we have to do to help you perform better?")
Anyone with $50 - $150 and a library card can pretty much obtain a PC and learn how to use it. Craigslist special. Cable companies are offering dirt cheap broadband, as well as various other gimmicks to get cheap net access.
That's true right now. It wasn't true 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago, which is what is impacting the current market for entrepreneurs.
a cultural difference where American black culture has a much lower opinion on average of nerdy endeavors as opposed to American white culture.
Do you have a citation (preferably multiple citations) to back this up? Certainly there's Ogbu's oppositional culture hypothesis, but there is also a whole body of work (most recently this but I can point you several other works with consistent findings) that indicate a low opinion of nerds isn't isn't anymore prevalent among blacks than in American culture in general.
Why should the people of North Dakota pay for tsunami monitoring for California? If the west coast wants earth quake and tsunami warning, they can pay for it.
The people in North Dakota aren't paying for tsunami monitoring in California, rather it's Californians who are paying for roads, schools, airports and tornado monitoring in North Dakota.http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/10/20/1541224/ron-paul-suggests-axing-5-us-federal-departments-and-budgets#
In typical 2-story U.S. homes, there's structural steel in a few isolated places -- a beam or two in the basement, perhaps another beam and a column in the garage..
I'm pretty sure the complaint is referring to steel studs which are common nowadays in new homes.
Apple stone walled KDE for a couple years until their own lawyers pointed out to them that they had to ad-hear to the GPL.
No. Safari (and what was to become Webkit) was announced at Job's 2003 Macworld keynote. The code was released the same day.
You are correct that the form of the changes was unusable according to KDE developers (which was soon rectified) but Apple contributed code from day 1 (actually, before day 1 in the case of JavaScriptCore.)
1. The employer was lying (they didn't want to hire your family members for some other reason and rather than dealing with repeated followups, they found it easier to say "blame our not hiring you on affirmative action")
Or
2. The employer was working under the same misunderstanding that many other people hold regard AA. In that case, the employer was breaking the law and if your family member had hired a lawyer to challenge that rationale, a judge would have bitched-slapped that employer.
Can you prove this? What if there is a solution that has not been thought up that does not consider race?
Again, by even acknowledging the problem you're considering race. By following up on the results you're considering race. The actual solution may or may not involve race depending on the ultimate problem - if the problem is overt discrimination, than race will necessarily be tied into the solution. If the problem is due to disparate impact the solution may be to resolve a problem that is not directly race-related but has affects along racial lines.
I just said that if it's going to make it unfair for other groups, then I do not want such a "solution" at all.
"Don't discriminate against <group>" (IOW, affirmative action) isn't unfair to other groups.
if the only solution being proposed is to give minorities jobs simply because of their race, then I'd say so.
Good thing that's not the only solution being proposed then. But you can't solve the problem without considering race - by even acknowledging the problem you're considering race!
So I guess black folk will just have to learn to live with higher unemplyment rates across the job market then, despite their experience, educational attainment, and lack of a criminal record.
The study you linked has someone sitting there making up names they feel "sound black/white."
Did you bother to even skim the study? No one "made up" any names, all the names come from actual birth certificates:
To decide on which names are uniquely African American and which are uniquely White, we use name frequency data calculated from birth certificates of all babies born in Massachusetts between 1974 and 1979. We tabulate these data by race to determine which names are distinctively White and which are distinctively African American. Distinctive names are those that have the highest ratio of frequency in one racial group to frequency in the other racial group.
As a check of distinctiveness, we conducted a survey in various public areas in Chicago. Each respondent was given asked to assess features of a person with a particular name, one of which is race. For each name thirty respondents were asked to identify the name as either “White”, “African American”, “Other” or “Cannot Tell”. In general, the names led respondents to readily attribute the expected race for the person but there were a few exceptions and these names were disregarded.
The names used for the study are given in the Appendix.
It's a fairly extensive experiment, based on previous research and with the methodology laid out in detail. And it's based on actual data. You don't like the results, fine, but don't pretend that the researchers pulled the results out of their asses.
So, one study is wrong. I'd believe raw data over someone making up names they think "sound black/white" and submitting resumes.
Okay, I watched the video, and tracked down the only documentation I could find about about the study. No real information about how the study was performed, potential weakness of the study (the relatively limited audience and the focus on professional/executive level jobs being two big ones), and it's basically a correlation study.
The NBER study gives detailed information on the methodology, sources of error, three pages of references, statistical analysis, etc.
Those two studies aren't even in the same planet when it comes down to rigor.
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Pretty sure my Nokia N900 and N9 (consumer version) weren't. My N950 (developer edition) wasn't either
You say this based on...? Nokia is a Foxconn customer
Moron. You increase the number of people on each airplane. Bigger airplanes.
Ain't that simple. "Bigger airplanes" assumes that the longer runways that can accommodate those larger planes aren't already maxed out. In the event that there is room to accommodate those planes, the airport has to account for new wake separation procedures. There's also the issue of whether the markets served by the airline are appropriate for larger planes. Finally, larger planes are in many (but not all) cases louder than smaller planes, and that results in environmental issues that are similar to those building new runways.
At best, "Bigger airplanes" is a stop-gap solution.
Airport capacity is measured in landings/takeoffs per hour.
Exactly. Which means to increase capacity, you have to increase the number of landings and takeoffs per hour. That means a) new runways, or b) new airports. That's really difficult to do these days, hence my point.
Bay Area and LA-area airports are at or near capacity, and will be bursting at the seams in the next 15-20 years. Expanding capacity by adding new runways or building new airports will cost tens of billions of dollars (DIA cost $3 billion, and that was for building an airport in the middle of nowhere almost 20 years ago that handles less traffic than LAX does). Furthermore, air travel can be affected by weather (fog, thunderstorms, in CA's case) that doesn't affect rail
Transportation options are important, there is no single perfect mode.
And what does a gathering place for nerds and geeks have to do with the statement "a cultural difference where American black culture has a much lower opinion on average of nerdy endeavors as opposed to American white culture"? Especially when blacks also attend Comic-con as well as gatherings targeted toward blacks.
Yeah, I didn't really think I had to spell the whole thing out. Nerd = person involved in study/non sporty/uncool activities. Person who is not involved in the world of higher education/going to school/giving a shit about school != nerd culture.
Yeah I got that, but what does that (and you're links) have to do with the assertion of "black culture" being "generally anti nerd"? Low achievement does not automatically mean 'not giving a shit about school.'
I might check it out, but I'm not saying there's a cultural difference [,,]
Than why bother singling out "black culture"?
I'm not comparing black with white, but 2 parents vs 1 parent, hence the similarity with white kids in the same situation. In the UK there are more black kids in that situation.
Sure, but that's an economic problem, not a racial problem, it just happens to fall on racial lines. Attributing differences to "black culture" being "anti nerd" is an unsupported assertion.
Go back to hanging out at the comic book store.
Hint: I'm not the one that used Comic-Con as a citation.
Your first link talks about blacks living in single-parent homes, the second link talks about an achievement gap. Neither link supports the claim of blacks being "anti nerd".
Shifting back to the USA for a second, a literature review found that the primary negative effect of being in a single-parent household is the loss of the second income, and that when income is controlled for: "the association between negative outcomes and living in a single-parent home is often substantially reduced."
In terms urging "parents of under-achieving ethnic minority pupils to get more involved in their children's education" (your 2nd link), if you have the time, take a listen to this (again, US-centric) where Prof Harris mentions that there isn't much of a difference between the involvement of whites and blacks in their children's education, the problem is that blacks tend to be more punitive in their involvement rather than being helpful when children underachieve (e.g. "you got a 'C' so you're grounded" vs "you got a 'C', what do we have to do to help you perform better?")
Anyone with $50 - $150 and a library card can pretty much obtain a PC and learn how to use it. Craigslist special. Cable companies are offering dirt cheap broadband, as well as various other gimmicks to get cheap net access.
That's true right now. It wasn't true 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago, which is what is impacting the current market for entrepreneurs.
Please explain.
a cultural difference where American black culture has a much lower opinion on average of nerdy endeavors as opposed to American white culture.
Do you have a citation (preferably multiple citations) to back this up? Certainly there's Ogbu's oppositional culture hypothesis, but there is also a whole body of work (most recently this but I can point you several other works with consistent findings) that indicate a low opinion of nerds isn't isn't anymore prevalent among blacks than in American culture in general.
What are you talking about?
Soviet's pullout --> chaos in Afghanistan --> rise of Taliban --> subjugation of people --> alliance with AQ --> 1993 WTC bombing --> attempted Philippine Airline bombing --> 1998 embassy bombings --> Sep 11, 2001.
Sure it worked well for the Soviets, for us and a lot of innocent people in other countries, not so much.
We need to learn from history and do as the Soviets did: leave that country while you still can.
Because that worked out so well...
Why should the people of North Dakota pay for tsunami monitoring for California? If the west coast wants earth quake and tsunami warning, they can pay for it.
The people in North Dakota aren't paying for tsunami monitoring in California, rather it's Californians who are paying for roads, schools, airports and tornado monitoring in North Dakota.http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/10/20/1541224/ron-paul-suggests-axing-5-us-federal-departments-and-budgets#
In typical 2-story U.S. homes, there's structural steel in a few isolated places -- a beam or two in the basement, perhaps another beam and a column in the garage. .
I'm pretty sure the complaint is referring to steel studs which are common nowadays in new homes.
Apple stone walled KDE for a couple years until their own lawyers pointed out to them that they had to ad-hear to the GPL.
No. Safari (and what was to become Webkit) was announced at Job's 2003 Macworld keynote. The code was released the same day.
You are correct that the form of the changes was unusable according to KDE developers (which was soon rectified) but Apple contributed code from day 1 (actually, before day 1 in the case of JavaScriptCore.)
If true, I wonder why that was.
1. The employer was lying (they didn't want to hire your family members for some other reason and rather than dealing with repeated followups, they found it easier to say "blame our not hiring you on affirmative action")
Or
2. The employer was working under the same misunderstanding that many other people hold regard AA. In that case, the employer was breaking the law and if your family member had hired a lawyer to challenge that rationale, a judge would have bitched-slapped that employer.
Than what "unfair" solutions were you referring to?
Can you prove this? What if there is a solution that has not been thought up that does not consider race?
Again, by even acknowledging the problem you're considering race. By following up on the results you're considering race. The actual solution may or may not involve race depending on the ultimate problem - if the problem is overt discrimination, than race will necessarily be tied into the solution. If the problem is due to disparate impact the solution may be to resolve a problem that is not directly race-related but has affects along racial lines.
I just said that if it's going to make it unfair for other groups, then I do not want such a "solution" at all.
"Don't discriminate against <group>" (IOW, affirmative action) isn't unfair to other groups.
if the only solution being proposed is to give minorities jobs simply because of their race, then I'd say so.
Good thing that's not the only solution being proposed then. But you can't solve the problem without considering race - by even acknowledging the problem you're considering race!
If the only solution being proposed is something similar to affirmative action, then I'd say so.
Really? Do you even know what affirmative action is? (hint: it's not "give the job to the unqualified black guy over the qualified white guy".
So I guess black folk will just have to learn to live with higher unemplyment rates across the job market then, despite their experience, educational attainment, and lack of a criminal record.
The study you linked has someone sitting there making up names they feel "sound black/white."
Did you bother to even skim the study? No one "made up" any names, all the names come from actual birth certificates:
The names used for the study are given in the Appendix.
It's a fairly extensive experiment, based on previous research and with the methodology laid out in detail. And it's based on actual data. You don't like the results, fine, but don't pretend that the researchers pulled the results out of their asses.
So, one study is wrong. I'd believe raw data over someone making up names they think "sound black/white" and submitting resumes.
Okay, I watched the video, and tracked down the only documentation I could find about about the study. No real information about how the study was performed, potential weakness of the study (the relatively limited audience and the focus on professional/executive level jobs being two big ones), and it's basically a correlation study.
The NBER study gives detailed information on the methodology, sources of error, three pages of references, statistical analysis, etc.
Those two studies aren't even in the same planet when it comes down to rigor.
I've got one. Don't consider race.
How would you solve the problem of employer's preference of interviewing whites with criminal records over blacks without criminal records?