Re:Things I would stress. (one more)
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Ahh yes very good point. You know that is so true that it has almost become a given. I don't even think about that much anymore. I swing from Solaris to Red Hat now between systems and the only thing that still trips me up now is the ps flags.
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Go ahead and give him the "Linux/Unix" why it is better speach. I am sure you will hear it at least once. Push all the FUD aside that you will get and you are left with just a couple real reasons.
#1. The fact that it is harder to understand is going to give you at least someone that is "interested" in unix and making it work right. Everyone thinks they are a microsoft admin, but when it breaks they turn into a user real quick.
#2. Academia is one of the best places to find an up and coming unix guy, and you don't have to pay them much.
#3. You don't get everything under the sun installed as default. It tends to be a more secure box out of the cardboard it was shiped in.
#4. I would say from my exp. that once it is up and running, locked down, and doing it's job there is much less "Could you come in a reboot this for me".
#5. You have something that is yours(ie the departments), the guy above you that did not want to support it will keep his hands out of it.
#6. It is a much better learning tool for the people using it. They get broad exposer to things "not microsoft".
#7. You learn fundamentals, not point and click.
#8. Open Source, no purchases. Every manager loves that one.
#9. I would go ahead and introduce him to other places that are using unix in your field. This loosens them up a bit.
#10. Find some things that will help him with problems he has now that are open source. Get them running on the linux boxes and give a little show. This is free on unix!
-- Don't be pushing, there are many things that windows does well. Period. Find the things that unix does well, and show them how you can make them happen for less.
It is about money, don't be fouled. That worry about support is also about money. Show him there are many people on campus that when you move on you personally will make sure that you fill your own shoes as you leave. Take the presure off him about finding a replacement. Hell make it part of your jobs description. Your not going to be there forever, so look at it this way. You can put that on your resume, for a short time you would have had to manage and train someone. That looks good to anyone.
We deployed, then yanked it right back out. I am not going to bore you with the product, because it really does not make a difference.
After deploying the secure solution, which worked just as promised and proposed to everyone. In fact it worked very well, it was still yanked. Why you ask? Ever tried to take something from someone they have had for over 2 years? Ok multiply it by 600 people. Take those 600 people and have thier managers bitch about having these things taken away from them, then have thier manager bitch, and on up the chain until it gets to the CIO that folds like a little kid with a skinned knee.
What am I trying to say here? Get approval in writing. Make it known what your going to do as soon as you can. Let them know 4 months ahead of time if you can(not 2, because that seem not to be enough). Lay it all out, get it all on the table, and get them to replay with issues, bitches, etc... Of course they are not going to call you until it goes in, but at least for 4 months they where told, warned, and when it comes it is not a surprise.
People by nature ignore what they don't want to hear, and say they never heard it. Say it 30 times. Make sure your CIO has a backbone, and get ready for a war. I hope you don't waste 2 weeks like we did. Good luck.
Get out of Jail Free Card. Serious, call and I come and get you no questions asked kind of thing. Giving them the card from a Monopoly game would be nice touch if it had a promise behind it.
Phone Mic for recording conversations.
Snort for the college network.
For god sakes a wireless switch to be the love of everyone in your dorm.
Paintball gun, so much fun just right at your fingertips.
Noise reduction headphones.
Eye Drops.
Espresso Machine.
Eclipse Light.
Butane Torch.
Web Cam, for almost anything.
Condoms.
Duct Tape(not to be confused with condoms).
MP3 player.
Sony Playstation2/xbox/gamecube.
Blinder.
Shot Glass.
Mixer.
A really nice tool kit.
If there is any room left pack it with Tampons, toliet paper, paper towels, and paper plates. You have no idea what kind of money you can get for these in a dorm on a weekend at around 1am.
Although I agree with you about this on one hand, I disagree on anouther kind of outside the original topic point.
Which is most consumers, IE mom and pop, really don't care about infection rates at all. They care about software, price, and ease of use. The very same ease of use that gives ease of infection.
I agree that the security conscious consumer point is very valid, if that is what you are looking for. If security is that important to someone they are not going to be looking into how secure the OS is, they will be looking into how secure there firewall is. Education is the key here, and they would take steps outside the OS to secure there systems at this point.
I guess what I am saying is at some point your become a bit parinoid and buy a firewall. If you have the beans to rub together to get it set up, your going to have the beans to secure your box as well no matter what OS is on it.
So I guess the argument here is "what is the most secure box, out of the wrapper, for a newbie" that has enough brains to realize that their stuff might need some protection.
How about you get those numbers out then work out a ratio to the number of Windows OS's to Mac OS's.
I think then you will understand the reason the numbers are the way they are. More targets, get more Virii. If Macs had the market share there would be more Virii for Macs than windows. Supply and demand in a strange sort of way. Not a better or worse OS, the OS have very little to do with which system gets more Virii writen for them. It has to do with infection ratios and impact.
Most everyone in the world would say that Linux/Unix is not as user friendly as say OSX and Windows/add suffix here.
With that in mind do you guys see this complexity as a bonus or a henderance to all *nixs moving forward, and please let us know why you feel this way.
Your abount to walk into support nightmare. Ever heard the term you touch it you own it. Never ever give your time away for free, period. Your free installation with become in a matter of days "you touched my computer and now the printer does not work". I am by no means telling you not to move forward with the idea, this has been pushed around a good bit by many people I know. I have even helped build out a full push for a new development. Pulls, switches, and the t's. All pre-wired, DHCP, and the price was included in the rent as a "plus" to moving into the new place. I wish you the best of luck, but figure out how to make your time worth it because once they get it for free and you have touched "their" system your going to get pointed at for all kinds of things.
From my view, this programmer knows more than this mere mortal girl. Just because she has a MCSE degree doesn't mean she's competent in her job.
nor does programing on a linux machine and spouting out some jargon that sounds correct. You have one side of the story, and filtered at that. Agreed that he sounds like he has a pretty good handle on it, but he just went about it a little bit the wrong way. From that perspective it looked hostle.
People just don't warm up to the guy that says "YOU SUCK!, and your not doing you job to the boss." Trust me that chick will be gunning for him now.
We would have a consule with old games ported from other consules, programs made to mimic other consoles, and it would be the prefect low end DVD player with free software for changing channels, recording, and displaying UHF signals. It would have a small but rabid following of users that hate the other consoles, but in secret really want the respect that other consoles get from the world. Although it would have better software for core fuctions, it's playablity would suffer from poor graphics, and sad user friendlyness.
Do you know if she is putting up filters on the firewall? Do you know if you she is NATing? Looking at the information in the artical all you know is that you have internet connectivity and you don't like that way that it is being handled. Seeing how you already took the time to tell her boss and not direct it at her, you have gone on the offense, you are now threat to her. Now she is going to prove you wrong and shut you down. Which it seems she has. Next time think about how you would feel if someone went to there boss, without talking to you and being a MCSE of all things, and said your code sucked. Not knowing an whole hell of a lot in your eyes about code or your job. Then took his boss to you boss and slamed you about your code. What would you do. I know it is hard to see it this way, but your put her in a bad spot right or wrong you went about it the wrong way.
Make a friend not an enemy, and next time just ask for help and ask them to explain it to you so you can learn. Ask the right questions to point them where you want them to look. Believe me they want to cover there ass just like you would, and will fix the problem if they don't have to loose face. Let them think they came up with the idea to change it, or could it be that you are gunning for her job and your pay at "I know more than you" backfired a bit? Anyway, learn the politics they are going to be everywhere.
This could help answer my next question. If your switching hardware has van routing, or routing moduale say like a Cisco 6509 you could set up a NAT or PAT on the switch. This would allow you to have an outgoing address that was not on your ipstack that could be rerouted back to the box. Just a thought, I am very tired and could just be out of my mind here at 4am and 6 coffee's to the wind.
Little pin up anger buddy? I was just giving out a little information for the people that were also looking for headphones. You will also notice I posted a solution to his problem. Try and anger management class, or rub one out. You need a release.
This little jewel lets you plug it into your mp3 player and then it tranmits to a FM channel. You could use it in this case to transmit your computer sound out to a small fm headphone set. Or in my case I plug it into my mp3 player and then catch the FM station on my car stereo. Perfect little fix without spending a ton of new money. The kicker at work is you could let everyone with 30 feet of you tune into your custom FM station playing your mp3's.
Well I got the ones from ThinkGeek and they are ok. Good output, but the range is only about 20 feet. They also seem to loose the freq just a little bit every time you turn them off and on and you have to do a little minor ajustment to the knobs...nothing wrong with a little knob wiggle. Ok, where was I, ho yea. They are pretty good but are a bit on the heavy side and can start to droop. They are also only for people with somewhat larger bennies. Put these on your typcial 115 pound girlfriend and your more likely to hear Jewel on the speaks instead of the headphones, which if like me was the reason you got the damn things in the first place.
Sony has some that seem to be just a tad bit better, lighter, longer range.
Lets get one thing straight. They do help, and anyone that tells you they don't is either jealous or bent 3 ways to sunday because they know someone that has one that is a fool. Well guess that goes with anything. No one remembers the MCSE/CCA/CCNA/Inet+ guy that knew his shit. They only remember the one that asked them what a managed switch was. Here is the skinny. Certifications are good for 2 things. #1 they are resume fodder, period end of story. They don't show you "know your stuff" but they do show you took the time, the effort, and at least have the ability to absorb it. We hired a SysAdmin last month and I can tell you anyone without at least and MCSE did not even get a call. Why? Because we had people with 8+ years exp on NT, 4+ on unix, and large network with Certs across the board. So if you think they don't matter your clueless. They do matter in getting your foot in the door, believe it. I am talking at a shop with over 20 international locations, and 300 plus nt servers. There is no way we are going to even see someone if they did not take the time to pull a MCSE out of their hat. Second, if gives you a broad base to pull from in and experience world you know what you have touched, period. You don't know anything about anything you have not seen or worked on. Granted you might be able to do it, that is fine but how do I know that. The certs at least give you a baseline of knowledge as low as it may be and lets us know you put some time in and stuck with something.
For everyone that did not have an MSCE we just flung in the bit bucket, sorry but that is the ropes bud, and if it is easy to get... roll out and get one. So you can get it easy you say, well put some time in and do it. You don't want to because it is worth nothing? Fine we don't want you working here. Pretty simple. We don't hire people without them because to us it is like asking if you have a high school diploma. MCSE/CCNA is the bottom line that we look for, not the clincher.
My advice, get a helpdesk job. Prove your skills, hone them for 30k a year and put some exp under your belt and crank out the certs on the side before you get out of your study habbits. Before long you will see the light that you are searching for, but there is no easy road. Microsoft might not be the way, cisco might not be the way, but get out there and give it some time. People telling you a cert is not good most of the time don't have one. People that tell you a college degree is worthless most of the time don't have one. Trust me when I tell you that they are both important and are just part of what you need to land that job.
Experience, Degree, Certs, and for god sakes a nice suit are all things that will help. Network in your helpdesk job, you will see things drop in your lap when the time is right.
Someone should bring this up in all the little court cases Microsoft is having right now. Pricing, innovation, quick to market, online services...when was the last time you saw microsoft work this hard to get market share? Seems to me, the layman, that this competition thing makes them work a bit harder, get product out a bit faster, and make something worlth having. Then again, it might just be a cheaper piece of shit with one good game. At least with other products on the market I can pay 1/3 less for that pos.
The last time someone down the isle had to take not one, not two, not three, but four calls all of them answered with "Yo HO whass the happs?!". The last pound of popcorn from my supersized popcorn bucket, 4 ounces of butter, and the bucket also hit him in the back of the head from 6 chairs over. Not only did he shut up but he left in a real big hurry when his anger was squelched by the 60+ people clapping and laughing their collective asses off. Poor sap...I almost felt bad.
Man with those lights I can grow weed, light my pit of an appartment, completely screw the wireless network the guy next door who has to play mp3's at the highest possible bass level at 3 in the AM!
Pro's:
Heat, grows good herb, and kills the wireless network.
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Ahh yes very good point. You know that is so true that it has almost become a given. I don't even think about that much anymore. I swing from Solaris to Red Hat now between systems and the only thing that still trips me up now is the ps flags.
Go ahead and give him the "Linux/Unix" why it is better speach. I am sure you will hear it at least once. Push all the FUD aside that you will get and you are left with just a couple real reasons.
#1. The fact that it is harder to understand is going to give you at least someone that is "interested" in unix and making it work right. Everyone thinks they are a microsoft admin, but when it breaks they turn into a user real quick.
#2. Academia is one of the best places to find an up and coming unix guy, and you don't have to pay them much.
#3. You don't get everything under the sun installed as default. It tends to be a more secure box out of the cardboard it was shiped in.
#4. I would say from my exp. that once it is up and running, locked down, and doing it's job there is much less "Could you come in a reboot this for me".
#5. You have something that is yours(ie the departments), the guy above you that did not want to support it will keep his hands out of it.
#6. It is a much better learning tool for the people using it. They get broad exposer to things "not microsoft".
#7. You learn fundamentals, not point and click.
#8. Open Source, no purchases. Every manager loves that one.
#9. I would go ahead and introduce him to other places that are using unix in your field. This loosens them up a bit.
#10. Find some things that will help him with problems he has now that are open source. Get them running on the linux boxes and give a little show. This is free on unix!
-- Don't be pushing, there are many things that windows does well. Period. Find the things that unix does well, and show them how you can make them happen for less.
It is about money, don't be fouled. That worry about support is also about money. Show him there are many people on campus that when you move on you personally will make sure that you fill your own shoes as you leave. Take the presure off him about finding a replacement. Hell make it part of your jobs description. Your not going to be there forever, so look at it this way. You can put that on your resume, for a short time you would have had to manage and train someone. That looks good to anyone.
Good luck.
We deployed, then yanked it right back out. I am not going to bore you with the product, because it really does not make a difference.
After deploying the secure solution, which worked just as promised and proposed to everyone. In fact it worked very well, it was still yanked. Why you ask? Ever tried to take something from someone they have had for over 2 years? Ok multiply it by 600 people. Take those 600 people and have thier managers bitch about having these things taken away from them, then have thier manager bitch, and on up the chain until it gets to the CIO that folds like a little kid with a skinned knee.
What am I trying to say here? Get approval in writing. Make it known what your going to do as soon as you can. Let them know 4 months ahead of time if you can(not 2, because that seem not to be enough). Lay it all out, get it all on the table, and get them to replay with issues, bitches, etc... Of course they are not going to call you until it goes in, but at least for 4 months they where told, warned, and when it comes it is not a surprise.
People by nature ignore what they don't want to hear, and say they never heard it. Say it 30 times. Make sure your CIO has a backbone, and get ready for a war. I hope you don't waste 2 weeks like we did. Good luck.
Caller ID cell phone.
Get out of Jail Free Card. Serious, call and I come and get you no questions asked kind of thing. Giving them the card from a Monopoly game would be nice touch if it had a promise behind it.
Phone Mic for recording conversations.
Snort for the college network.
For god sakes a wireless switch to be the love of everyone in your dorm.
Paintball gun, so much fun just right at your fingertips.
Noise reduction headphones.
Eye Drops.
Espresso Machine.
Eclipse Light.
Butane Torch.
Web Cam, for almost anything.
Condoms.
Duct Tape(not to be confused with condoms).
MP3 player.
Sony Playstation2/xbox/gamecube.
Blinder.
Shot Glass.
Mixer.
A really nice tool kit.
If there is any room left pack it with Tampons, toliet paper, paper towels, and paper plates. You have no idea what kind of money you can get for these in a dorm on a weekend at around 1am.
Although I agree with you about this on one hand, I disagree on anouther kind of outside the original topic point.
Which is most consumers, IE mom and pop, really don't care about infection rates at all. They care about software, price, and ease of use. The very same ease of use that gives ease of infection.
I agree that the security conscious consumer point is very valid, if that is what you are looking for. If security is that important to someone they are not going to be looking into how secure the OS is, they will be looking into how secure there firewall is. Education is the key here, and they would take steps outside the OS to secure there systems at this point.
I guess what I am saying is at some point your become a bit parinoid and buy a firewall. If you have the beans to rub together to get it set up, your going to have the beans to secure your box as well no matter what OS is on it.
So I guess the argument here is "what is the most secure box, out of the wrapper, for a newbie" that has enough brains to realize that their stuff might need some protection.
You sir are correct, thanks for the clarification. I have been doing that for years I think. Wonder where I picked it up at.
Thanks,
You compare Mac Virii to Windows Virii..fine.
You compare Word Virii to Mac Virii...fine.
How about you get those numbers out then work out a ratio to the number of Windows OS's to Mac OS's.
I think then you will understand the reason the numbers are the way they are. More targets, get more Virii. If Macs had the market share there would be more Virii for Macs than windows. Supply and demand in a strange sort of way. Not a better or worse OS, the OS have very little to do with which system gets more Virii writen for them. It has to do with infection ratios and impact.
Most everyone in the world would say that Linux/Unix is not as user friendly as say OSX and Windows/add suffix here.
With that in mind do you guys see this complexity as a bonus or a henderance to all *nixs moving forward, and please let us know why you feel this way.
Your abount to walk into support nightmare. Ever heard the term you touch it you own it. Never ever give your time away for free, period. Your free installation with become in a matter of days "you touched my computer and now the printer does not work". I am by no means telling you not to move forward with the idea, this has been pushed around a good bit by many people I know. I have even helped build out a full push for a new development. Pulls, switches, and the t's. All pre-wired, DHCP, and the price was included in the rent as a "plus" to moving into the new place. I wish you the best of luck, but figure out how to make your time worth it because once they get it for free and you have touched "their" system your going to get pointed at for all kinds of things.
From my view, this programmer knows more than this mere mortal girl. Just because she has a MCSE degree doesn't mean she's competent in her job.
nor does programing on a linux machine and spouting out some jargon that sounds correct. You have one side of the story, and filtered at that. Agreed that he sounds like he has a pretty good handle on it, but he just went about it a little bit the wrong way. From that perspective it looked hostle.
People just don't warm up to the guy that says "YOU SUCK!, and your not doing you job to the boss." Trust me that chick will be gunning for him now.
We would have a consule with old games ported from other consules, programs made to mimic other consoles, and it would be the prefect low end DVD player with free software for changing channels, recording, and displaying UHF signals. It would have a small but rabid following of users that hate the other consoles, but in secret really want the respect that other consoles get from the world. Although it would have better software for core fuctions, it's playablity would suffer from poor graphics, and sad user friendlyness.
Do you know if she is putting up filters on the firewall? Do you know if you she is NATing? Looking at the information in the artical all you know is that you have internet connectivity and you don't like that way that it is being handled. Seeing how you already took the time to tell her boss and not direct it at her, you have gone on the offense, you are now threat to her. Now she is going to prove you wrong and shut you down. Which it seems she has. Next time think about how you would feel if someone went to there boss, without talking to you and being a MCSE of all things, and said your code sucked. Not knowing an whole hell of a lot in your eyes about code or your job. Then took his boss to you boss and slamed you about your code. What would you do. I know it is hard to see it this way, but your put her in a bad spot right or wrong you went about it the wrong way.
Make a friend not an enemy, and next time just ask for help and ask them to explain it to you so you can learn. Ask the right questions to point them where you want them to look. Believe me they want to cover there ass just like you would, and will fix the problem if they don't have to loose face. Let them think they came up with the idea to change it, or could it be that you are gunning for her job and your pay at "I know more than you" backfired a bit? Anyway, learn the politics they are going to be everywhere.
This could help answer my next question. If your switching hardware has van routing, or routing moduale say like a Cisco 6509 you could set up a NAT or PAT on the switch. This would allow you to have an outgoing address that was not on your ipstack that could be rerouted back to the box. Just a thought, I am very tired and could just be out of my mind here at 4am and 6 coffee's to the wind.
Blue Warrior, needs sleep badly....
Little pin up anger buddy? I was just giving out a little information for the people that were also looking for headphones. You will also notice I posted a solution to his problem. Try and anger management class, or rub one out. You need a release.
Link to speak out to FM
This little jewel lets you plug it into your mp3 player and then it tranmits to a FM channel. You could use it in this case to transmit your computer sound out to a small fm headphone set. Or in my case I plug it into my mp3 player and then catch the FM station on my car stereo. Perfect little fix without spending a ton of new money. The kicker at work is you could let everyone with 30 feet of you tune into your custom FM station playing your mp3's.
Turns speak output into FM channel
At which time you just tune it into your walkman, or radio headphones. Simple solution for mp3 players to your car stereo as well.
Well I got the ones from ThinkGeek and they are ok. Good output, but the range is only about 20 feet. They also seem to loose the freq just a little bit every time you turn them off and on and you have to do a little minor ajustment to the knobs...nothing wrong with a little knob wiggle. Ok, where was I, ho yea. They are pretty good but are a bit on the heavy side and can start to droop. They are also only for people with somewhat larger bennies. Put these on your typcial 115 pound girlfriend and your more likely to hear Jewel on the speaks instead of the headphones, which if like me was the reason you got the damn things in the first place.
Sony has some that seem to be just a tad bit better, lighter, longer range.
enjoy.
The exact way that the questions are selected? Do they get modded up or are they selected by the editors? I assume a little of both.
Thanks,
Lets get one thing straight. They do help, and anyone that tells you they don't is either jealous or bent 3 ways to sunday because they know someone that has one that is a fool. Well guess that goes with anything. No one remembers the MCSE/CCA/CCNA/Inet+ guy that knew his shit. They only remember the one that asked them what a managed switch was. Here is the skinny. Certifications are good for 2 things. #1 they are resume fodder, period end of story. They don't show you "know your stuff" but they do show you took the time, the effort, and at least have the ability to absorb it. We hired a SysAdmin last month and I can tell you anyone without at least and MCSE did not even get a call. Why? Because we had people with 8+ years exp on NT, 4+ on unix, and large network with Certs across the board. So if you think they don't matter your clueless. They do matter in getting your foot in the door, believe it. I am talking at a shop with over 20 international locations, and 300 plus nt servers. There is no way we are going to even see someone if they did not take the time to pull a MCSE out of their hat. Second, if gives you a broad base to pull from in and experience world you know what you have touched, period. You don't know anything about anything you have not seen or worked on. Granted you might be able to do it, that is fine but how do I know that. The certs at least give you a baseline of knowledge as low as it may be and lets us know you put some time in and stuck with something.
For everyone that did not have an MSCE we just flung in the bit bucket, sorry but that is the ropes bud, and if it is easy to get... roll out and get one. So you can get it easy you say, well put some time in and do it. You don't want to because it is worth nothing? Fine we don't want you working here. Pretty simple. We don't hire people without them because to us it is like asking if you have a high school diploma. MCSE/CCNA is the bottom line that we look for, not the clincher.
My advice, get a helpdesk job. Prove your skills, hone them for 30k a year and put some exp under your belt and crank out the certs on the side before you get out of your study habbits. Before long you will see the light that you are searching for, but there is no easy road. Microsoft might not be the way, cisco might not be the way, but get out there and give it some time. People telling you a cert is not good most of the time don't have one. People that tell you a college degree is worthless most of the time don't have one. Trust me when I tell you that they are both important and are just part of what you need to land that job.
Experience, Degree, Certs, and for god sakes a nice suit are all things that will help. Network in your helpdesk job, you will see things drop in your lap when the time is right.
Good luck.
You mean they fell for that backlot footage of us landing on the moon?
Someone should bring this up in all the little court cases Microsoft is having right now. Pricing, innovation, quick to market, online services...when was the last time you saw microsoft work this hard to get market share? Seems to me, the layman, that this competition thing makes them work a bit harder, get product out a bit faster, and make something worlth having. Then again, it might just be a cheaper piece of shit with one good game. At least with other products on the market I can pay 1/3 less for that pos.
Link to NetBSD Hack for XboX
How-to included with loads and mods.
The last time someone down the isle had to take not one, not two, not three, but four calls all of them answered with "Yo HO whass the happs?!". The last pound of popcorn from my supersized popcorn bucket, 4 ounces of butter, and the bucket also hit him in the back of the head from 6 chairs over. Not only did he shut up but he left in a real big hurry when his anger was squelched by the 60+ people clapping and laughing their collective asses off. Poor sap...I almost felt bad.
Man with those lights I can grow weed, light my pit of an appartment, completely screw the wireless network the guy next door who has to play mp3's at the highest possible bass level at 3 in the AM!
Pro's:
Heat, grows good herb, and kills the wireless network.
Con's:
ahhh, shit I forgot...pass that would ya!
It is because over the last 2 years everyone has found out where their favorite porn is now.
*SPIT* BINGO!