"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.
"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."
"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."
"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."
"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."
"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."
"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."
"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.
...the last of the hopi indian prophecies will have come to pass...
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.
so was television...radio...cell phones... seriously G - with the myriad of technology options coming out (quantum, field programmable gate arrays, learning algorithms, wet-ware...) i would never say it would be impossible. improbable maybe...but i'm just a computer scientist with 20 years of CS and rocket science to my name, so digg me down accordingly...
of topic, but damn if this isn't one of those gems that makes slashdot interesting
and to Mr Engineer - Thank You Thank You I've worked on systems for these guys no one cares as long as you get paid it's insane you promise the world deliver 2/3rds and 40% of that has 'issues' slated for fix in a future release yeah right pass go, collect 200, and the circle of life keeps turning...
let's face it - evolution and compassion work in opposite directions. If the weak survive they are peeing in the gene pool, yet they are also a crucial part of the higher ideals we are capable of postulating (elaboration required ? or do you get it ?)....
what if we just killed and ate the weaker, dumber, and fatter ? where to draw the line that we like to think seperates us from animals with shoes ????
The fact is is that we've targeted the terrorists and we're cleaning up and taking out the trash. The fact that it's a republican doing this as opposed to your uber allis drives you fucking nuts.
and torturing a lot of innocents...and disregarding international laws and treatys...and spending more money that you could even fathom. money that can't even all be accounted for, that I suspect wound up somehow with a company the vice president used to head, a vice president that will probably be indicted for bribery...and that's not even the tip of it... I'll go toe to toe with you on the facts ANYTIME. maybe you will wake up... dude - get your head up and look around...you have no clue what's really going on. trust me. why would i lie about this ? what do i possibly have to gain ?
i'm ashamed of my country right now - ashamed of its leaders and our actions. and don't pull that "well if you don't like it leave" crap...no thanks. This country is as much mine as anyone else's, and I will fight to take my country back from these people. I think many people would be with me too. show of hands ?
ok - its a really nifty gun that much i will agree with but, just for thought... take half the money, no, a third of the money we will spend on this and use it to build farms and houses for the people we are bombing back to the stone age...or clean up the nightmare that is africa right now...or south america...etc... might be even more effective than a big gun, in some respects. the best war is the one you never have to fight... now don't get me wrong - I'm not blind to the realities of the modern world, but i feel the biggest kids on the block should also be the nicest, and you have to admit that a lot of the aid we give out now just comes back into our economy as weapons purchases, which doesn't really help the situation imho... just my 2 yen, ymmv...
we're a bunch of geeks... what's the difference between a circus geek and a computer geek ? One runs around biting the heads off chickens, screaming and dripping blood. The other one works at the circus...
make 2 working ones out of a those dead dogs stacked in the closet...hey i'm not offering a solution, just a suggestion...set the rest on fire and push them out in the road ?
well, its hard to justify just throwing them away when you take into account the real cost of the machine (open pit copper mines, etc) and what exactly is involved in these beasts. How about a clearinghouse of some sort, I'll take anyone's old 486 or better boxens in exchange for free bandwidth for the 10^nth supernode ?
seriously - the third world would love a supply of last year's machines and some tech support to get up on the curve...
yes - I agree...the point is, though, that now you can run a picture on a website that has been completely manipulated, and the masses are going to accept it because , for most of them 'seeing is believing'
One of the more interesting points that I think is being overlooked is that the digital media makes the past mutable - look at the Time magazine article that was not just pulled but the entire online edition redone to remove all references to the article (GW1 on the first gulf war), effectively vaporizing the past in a very 1984-esque manner. Were it not for sites like the memory hole we might not even have been aware it was de-existed. Also, the new graphics technology makes it possible to produce almost any photo you would like to have (there was a thread on idymedia about CNN using a doctored photograph just today, for instance, though they aren't sure who specifically doctored the shot). History has become mutable (changable), and unless you were there and saw it you no longer can be sure of anything you read or see online. With this in mind, the internet has the capability to become quite the Orwellian tool for mass manipulation.
While studying CS in school, our graphics teacher said the holy grail of computer graphics was to produce an image that was indistinguishable from a real photo. I asked him if he considered the social implications of such technology...he said "no"...that chilled me then, and still does.
..or embedd it in the fibers of the sleeve of your coat/shirt/dress....then it will be wearable fashion, and not just gear hanging off your body, trying to look cool
is when John Cleese asks "How shall we f*ck off, Oh Lord ?" Serioulsy, this one line and its context says more about religion turning into dogma than anything else I can think of...
Think about it - all those millions of lines of code we wrote are going to be worthless when the lights go out, or martial law gets declared...and all this discussion about outsourcing, brain drain...its smoke and mirrors like Janet's breast instead of an accurate death/wounded/maimed count from Iraq...
The skills any geek worth his/her salt should be studying, imho... 1) reloading cartridge ammunition 2) manual labor-intensive and technology-poor farming and manufacturing techniques (bootstrap baby, bootstrap...) 3) pioneer-style medical care
The real irony is that a nation of overweight cows sitting in front of the magic box can't even see it coming. When the feces hits the ventilation system, no degree will mean as much as simply being ready to deal with the new 'economy'...and like it or not you can't eat money, degrees, nice resumes, or fancy algorithms...its called hubberts peak, and I believe we just hit it...mod me as off topic, but think about it...
it would seem readily apparent that the smaller the number of media outlets, the easier it will be to censure the information Americans have access to.
Hey, what ever happened to the insider trading leads on 9-11 ? Didn't they point to ex-CIA run trading houses ?
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"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.
"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."
"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."
"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."
"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."
"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."
"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."
"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.
http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html
...the last of the hopi indian prophecies will have come to pass...
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.
"AI is a pipe dream."
so was television...radio...cell phones...
seriously G - with the myriad of technology options coming out (quantum, field programmable gate arrays, learning algorithms, wet-ware...) i would never say it would be impossible. improbable maybe...but i'm just a computer scientist with 20 years of CS and rocket science to my name, so digg me down accordingly...
...have not changed - my new 770 off ebay gets here tomorrow, dammit...oh well...
of topic, but damn if this isn't one of those gems that makes slashdot interesting
and to Mr Engineer - Thank You Thank You
I've worked on systems for these guys
no one cares as long as you get paid
it's insane
you promise the world
deliver 2/3rds
and 40% of that has 'issues' slated for fix in a future release
yeah right
pass go, collect 200, and the circle of life keeps turning...
Doctors Without Borders usually gets a good chunk of my donations. I think they do great work all over the world, with little overhead...
...and where do I send my resume ?
let's face it - evolution and compassion work in opposite directions.
If the weak survive they are peeing in the gene pool, yet they are also a crucial part of the higher ideals we are capable of postulating (elaboration required ? or do you get it ?)....
what if we just killed and ate the weaker, dumber, and fatter ? where to draw the line that we like to think seperates us from animals with shoes ????
can you post some data ? i would like to try the prime number thing myself...
wasn't it ? isn't this a little over the line...?
where's alvin and the chipmunks ?
The fact is is that we've targeted the terrorists and we're cleaning up and taking out the trash. The fact that it's a republican doing this as opposed to your uber allis drives you fucking nuts.
and torturing a lot of innocents...and disregarding international laws and treatys...and spending more money that you could even fathom. money that can't even all be accounted for, that I suspect wound up somehow with a company the vice president used to head, a vice president that will probably be indicted for bribery...and that's not even the tip of it...
I'll go toe to toe with you on the facts ANYTIME. maybe you will wake up...
dude - get your head up and look around...you have no clue what's really going on. trust me. why would i lie about this ? what do i possibly have to gain ?
i'm ashamed of my country right now - ashamed of its leaders and our actions. and don't pull that "well if you don't like it leave" crap...no thanks. This country is as much mine as anyone else's, and I will fight to take my country back from these people. I think many people would be with me too. show of hands ?
well ?
and make a spare copy while we are at it ?
ok - its a really nifty gun
that much i will agree with
but, just for thought...
take half the money, no, a third of the money we will spend on this and use it to build farms and houses for the people we are bombing back to the stone age...or clean up the nightmare that is africa right now...or south america...etc...
might be even more effective than a big gun, in some respects. the best war is the one you never have to fight...
now don't get me wrong - I'm not blind to the realities of the modern world, but i feel the biggest kids on the block should also be the nicest, and you have to admit that a lot of the aid we give out now just comes back into our economy as weapons purchases, which doesn't really help the situation imho...
just my 2 yen, ymmv...
we're a bunch of geeks...
what's the difference between a circus geek and a computer geek ?
One runs around biting the heads off chickens, screaming and dripping blood. The other one works at the circus...
make 2 working ones out of a those dead dogs stacked in the closet...hey i'm not offering a solution, just a suggestion...set the rest on fire and push them out in the road ?
seriously - the third world would love a supply of last year's machines and some tech support to get up on the curve...
yes - I agree...the point is, though, that now you can run a picture on a website that has been completely manipulated, and the masses are going to accept it because , for most of them 'seeing is believing'
While studying CS in school, our graphics teacher said the holy grail of computer graphics was to produce an image that was indistinguishable from a real photo. I asked him if he considered the social implications of such technology...he said "no"...that chilled me then, and still does.
..or embedd it in the fibers of the sleeve of your coat/shirt/dress....then it will be wearable fashion, and not just gear hanging off your body, trying to look cool
anyone care to esplain ?
hey zeus...you try not to offend people, an dyou offend them anyways...
"How shall we Fuck Off, Oh Lord ?"
happy now ?
is when John Cleese asks "How shall we f*ck off, Oh Lord ?"
Serioulsy, this one line and its context says more about religion turning into dogma than anything else I can think of...
The skills any geek worth his/her salt should be studying, imho...
1) reloading cartridge ammunition
2) manual labor-intensive and technology-poor farming and manufacturing techniques (bootstrap baby, bootstrap...)
3) pioneer-style medical care
The real irony is that a nation of overweight cows sitting in front of the magic box can't even see it coming. When the feces hits the ventilation system, no degree will mean as much as simply being ready to deal with the new 'economy'...and like it or not you can't eat money, degrees, nice resumes, or fancy algorithms...its called hubberts peak, and I believe we just hit it...mod me as off topic, but think about it...
Hey, what ever happened to the insider trading leads on 9-11 ? Didn't they point to ex-CIA run trading houses ?
And why no Exit Poll ? Why why why ?