Re:SCO could win - Mormons and Microsoft
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Bullcrap. Pure and utter bullcrap.
As a member of the LDS Church living in Utah my entire 30 years of my life, I can say this is a load of hooey. And I am quite pissed that a Utah company is being this big of a horse's rear end.
> Utah is a Mormon theocracy.
Bzzzt! Wrong answer. Utah has a high percentage of members because we settled this hunk of desert when no else wanted to be out here. But now, it's a nice enough place, and plenty of room for all. And many non-LDS people live here and don't take orders from the High Command.
> Mormons live their lives (both personally and > politically) according to the dictates of church leaders.
Well, damn, here I thought we had the ability to choose whether we follow the counsel of the church leaders. Guess not, time to start marching lockstep with the rest! Heil Hinckley!
> There is as much questioning of the leaders' > decisions as there was in the former Soviet > Union.
Oookay, buddy, you are just getting creepy at this point. I can see why you posted as AC, because you needed time to don your tinfoil hat before those bastard Mormons started stealing your thoughts!
Whatever link between members, SCO and the LDS Church is a coincidence. And I, as a God fearing, Linux loving, member of the human race, am pissed off that SCO is doing this. I hope they crash and burn so bad that they are a mere footnote of a footnote in the pages of history.
"It is possible to dislike the RIAA and love this at the same time. It's like a machiavellian wet dream. Couldn't have achieved better if we'd planned it."
Free markets rock! More proof that you can't plan the effects of an open market. Take that, communism!
Sony and MS are battling for the next big thing, set top boxes. Sure, sure, they were a dud before, but companies are still trying to make it work. Sony is seeing if Linux is a vaible OS for this stuff, while MS is trying to figure it all out. Hence the Linux kit for PS2 and the current prices wars. They are gunning for a box cheap enough that just about anyone will buy one, yet priced so they can at least break even. Then they will sell services and charge connection fees.
"A full 92% of their employees are under the age of 25."
Where did you get that? I didn't see a link to any meaningful data, so I have no way of believing that one!
"Which means they have all grown up in the geek culture where television, radio, and Internet are all free or subsidized."
I would hardly call that geek culture, more like modern culture.
"What Microsoft has done here is not so different from what Linux Torvalds did to Minux. Just as his actions drove Minux out of business, so too will Microsoft proceed to drive Linux into the ground."
This was my biggest WTF? How can you possible compare the two? Linus developed a kernel based off Minix. Minix still is around, check http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html but I didn't think they sold Minix. Regardless, Linus created Linux to be a better Minix, but not to compete against it. There was no reason then or now to compete. It is a matter of doing something that he likes, and a whole horde of other programmers like, to do. Write code that works!
MS doesn't want to compete, either. But for different reasons. They don't want to compete because that cuts into their profits. Much easier to have it set up so consumer money flows from the paycheck to the MS coffers without having a chance of getting spent elsewhere. And if there is a choice, why, the consumer might not spend money on MS at all!
The beauty of the OSS or GLPed or any "free" software is the consumer doesn't have to spend money on it to make it work for him.
MS can't drive Linux to the ground because there is no company to drive to the ground. Linux can only be stopped by MS buying laws to prevent programmers to work on it and to distribute it. Or by a huge schism of the Linux faithful. But even then, Linux will mutate and survive, simply because there is no one company in charge of it. If Linus kicked the bucket right now, Linux will still go on as long as someone wants to work on it. And as of right now, there are a lot of people that want to do just that.
"In the end, the winners are the users. For us, things just get more free and easier to use, which is what technology is all about. Empowerment to be our best."
Which are the OSS and Free software ideas. Freedom to choose. Freedom to become our best.
MS is trying to stop that. They want one choice, and that is no choice but them. That's that whole point. Choice. MS is doing their best to make sure that the average consumer will never, ever use anything but MS programs. Their whole OS is being inundated with superfluous programs. MSN Messenger. Windows Media Player. IE. None of this has to do with an operating system and everything to do with market lock in.
And MS will do *anything* to make sure they have market dominance. Even steal other people's code.
I must disagree with this, because while the NGC contoller fits like a glove for me, the XBox controller is like some sort of awkward chunk of plastic, desgined by sadistic Nazi scientists to twist my hands into misshapen claws that would scare children and cause soda pop to go flat.
What's the point of technology if it can't do things that you already can do, but better! And faster! And use batteries! And fit into your pocket! Sheesh.
Sorry, but you just pulled a logical fallacy.
The fact that you feel that you have become emotionally detached from a movie doesn't mean that this is part of the reason that kids are bringing guns to school.
Yes, and closing one pop-up spawned at least one more. It was like those damn smash the gopher games at Chucky Cheeze. But I wouldn't know that from first-hand experience, I have a, um, friend that went to those 'warez' and 'crackz' sites. And Chucky Cheeze. Yeah, a friend.
Older stuff, but it kills inline images of specific dimensions. The drawback is that you need a browser that supports a user-defined CSS file.
I normally don't advocate violence as a solution to problems, but sometimes a good ole ass-whoopin' goes a long way.
I was pretty much the classic geek in middle school, liked computers, RPGs, etc. So I got a lot of ribbing from non-geek friends, and bullying from non-geek non-friends. Until I "snapped" and chased down the lead bully (after he threw a football at my head) and beat the tar out of him.
Sure, I was suspended. So was he. But the bullying stopped. And that was the last and only fight I was ever in.
MS has a history of subverting something popular to their 'standards'.
Look at HTML tags (aka the browser wars) and what MS tried to do with Java.
'Enhancements' to MS means 'It will not work unless you are on a MS approved platform'
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Bullcrap. Pure and utter bullcrap.
As a member of the LDS Church living in Utah my entire 30 years of my life, I can say this is a load of hooey. And I am quite pissed that a Utah company is being this big of a horse's rear end.
> Utah is a Mormon theocracy.
Bzzzt! Wrong answer. Utah has a high percentage of members because we settled this hunk of desert when no else wanted to be out here. But now, it's a nice enough place, and plenty of room for all. And many non-LDS people live here and don't take orders from the High Command.
> Mormons live their lives (both personally and
> politically) according to the dictates of church leaders.
Well, damn, here I thought we had the ability to choose whether we follow the counsel of the church leaders. Guess not, time to start marching lockstep with the rest! Heil Hinckley!
> There is as much questioning of the leaders'
> decisions as there was in the former Soviet
> Union.
Oookay, buddy, you are just getting creepy at this point. I can see why you posted as AC, because you needed time to don your tinfoil hat before those bastard Mormons started stealing your thoughts!
Whatever link between members, SCO and the LDS Church is a coincidence. And I, as a God fearing, Linux loving, member of the human race, am pissed off that SCO is doing this. I hope they crash and burn so bad that they are a mere footnote of a footnote in the pages of history.
lol!
In otherwords, "I don't like Buffy so you're stoopid!"
Ah, with Ren and Stimpy coming back, does that counter the evil done to Buffy? Is balance restored in the cultural wasteland?
"It is possible to dislike the RIAA and love this at the same time. It's like a machiavellian wet dream. Couldn't have achieved better if we'd planned it."
Free markets rock! More proof that you can't plan the effects of an open market. Take that, communism!
Sony and MS are battling for the next big thing, set top boxes. Sure, sure, they were a dud before, but companies are still trying to make it work. Sony is seeing if Linux is a vaible OS for this stuff, while MS is trying to figure it all out. Hence the Linux kit for PS2 and the current prices wars. They are gunning for a box cheap enough that just about anyone will buy one, yet priced so they can at least break even. Then they will sell services and charge connection fees.
What? Huh? Alright, let's look at this, shall we?
"A full 92% of their employees are under the age of 25."
Where did you get that? I didn't see a link to any meaningful data, so I have no way of believing that one!
"Which means they have all grown up in the geek culture where television, radio, and Internet are all free or subsidized."
I would hardly call that geek culture, more like modern culture.
"What Microsoft has done here is not so different from what Linux Torvalds did to Minux. Just as his actions drove Minux out of business, so too will Microsoft proceed to drive Linux into the ground."
This was my biggest WTF? How can you possible compare the two? Linus developed a kernel based off Minix. Minix still is around, check http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html but I didn't think they sold Minix. Regardless, Linus created Linux to be a better Minix, but not to compete against it. There was no reason then or now to compete. It is a matter of doing something that he likes, and a whole horde of other programmers like, to do. Write code that works!
MS doesn't want to compete, either. But for different reasons. They don't want to compete because that cuts into their profits. Much easier to have it set up so consumer money flows from the paycheck to the MS coffers without having a chance of getting spent elsewhere. And if there is a choice, why, the consumer might not spend money on MS at all!
The beauty of the OSS or GLPed or any "free" software is the consumer doesn't have to spend money on it to make it work for him.
MS can't drive Linux to the ground because there is no company to drive to the ground. Linux can only be stopped by MS buying laws to prevent programmers to work on it and to distribute it. Or by a huge schism of the Linux faithful. But even then, Linux will mutate and survive, simply because there is no one company in charge of it. If Linus kicked the bucket right now, Linux will still go on as long as someone wants to work on it. And as of right now, there are a lot of people that want to do just that.
"In the end, the winners are the users. For us, things just get more free and easier to use, which is what technology is all about. Empowerment to be our best."
Which are the OSS and Free software ideas. Freedom to choose. Freedom to become our best.
MS is trying to stop that. They want one choice, and that is no choice but them. That's that whole point. Choice. MS is doing their best to make sure that the average consumer will never, ever use anything but MS programs. Their whole OS is being inundated with superfluous programs. MSN Messenger. Windows Media Player. IE. None of this has to do with an operating system and everything to do with market lock in.
And MS will do *anything* to make sure they have market dominance. Even steal other people's code.
> Given that we are reaching the point where we have more memory and CPU power in computers than we know what to do with...
Don't worry, MS will find away to use even more resources in their next OS release!
> No, it has a better controller
I must disagree with this, because while the NGC contoller fits like a glove for me, the XBox controller is like some sort of awkward chunk of plastic, desgined by sadistic Nazi scientists to twist my hands into misshapen claws that would scare children and cause soda pop to go flat.
Of course, YMMV, but I like fizzy soda pop!
Luddite.
What's the point of technology if it can't do things that you already can do, but better! And faster! And use batteries! And fit into your pocket! Sheesh.
Sorry, but you just pulled a logical fallacy.
The fact that you feel that you have become emotionally detached from a movie doesn't mean that this is part of the reason that kids are bringing guns to school.
Yeah, and a 'marathon' that consists of previous content, interrupted for more begging. And a guest star. One nobody has heard of this side 1970.
Older stuff, but it kills inline images of specific dimensions. The drawback is that you need a browser that supports a user-defined CSS file.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2001/03 /09/anarchist_2.html
Doesn't kill the javascript popups, but it does kill most the images.
I was pretty much the classic geek in middle school, liked computers, RPGs, etc. So I got a lot of ribbing from non-geek friends, and bullying from non-geek non-friends. Until I "snapped" and chased down the lead bully (after he threw a football at my head) and beat the tar out of him.
Sure, I was suspended. So was he. But the bullying stopped. And that was the last and only fight I was ever in.
Darn right. I have done just that, and it is far better solution than ASP+VB.
Look at HTML tags (aka the browser wars) and what MS tried to do with Java.
'Enhancements' to MS means 'It will not work unless you are on a MS approved platform'
Sneaky bastards.
"We are not a monopoly!cried the PR department as they dump another used-up company in the bin ...
I wonder how much this has to do with Windows XP?