I think its because who is involved with the project. Because of that alone it has already gained enormous street cred. If this turns out as planned and lives up to the hype it's going to be a very good thing for linux in general. An up to date version of Debian which actually focuses on ease of use but remains Free long term is something that's been needed for a long time. Plus based on who is involved this project actually does have a chance of being around in 2 years. This isn't just 2 users coming together to fork Debian and "hoping" they'll be around to grow the project.
But as to what your alluding to, yes the hype machine is in full effect and I completely understand why people uninterested in Debian have had enough of Ubuntu "reviews" right now. Personally I'm still a fan of Fedora and Red Hat but I'm definitely giving Ubuntu a spin once it's stable.
For the rest of you don't forget, A)choice can be a good thing and B)OSS devs aren't cattle to be herded to whatever OSS project you think they should be working on.
The user has to actually initiate the update themselves. You simply see a little red arrow, click it, and then are asked to update. Why is this bad if mozilla.org knows how to secure itself?
"Who doesn't think that this kind of thing will have endless potential for hackers to exploit in the years ahead."
Don't you think they've thought of that? Update installs are coded for mozilla.org only and I expect other layered security to come as well. Give them a little credit already. When mozilla/firefox becomes the plauge of the Internet like IE is currently then you can start throwing accusations around. Until then based on their track record I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
"The ability for a browser to download and execute things on the client automatically is just a huge security risk, regardless of the measures that the designers think they have put in place."
Just because Microsoft completely fucked up with IE doesn't mean all of IE's features are bad, just not properly secured. Your wrongly throwing away an entire workable concept for all the wrong reasons.
Also AFAIK there has never been a hack of either Windows Update or Red Hat Network where someone got trojaned for installing an update. Again, expect tighter controls on who can install what in the future.
" next to unusable on my old workstation (450 MHz, RH 7.3) "
Yes, and xp runs slow on 5 to 6 year old hardware as well. What your point? The zilla's won't ever be blazing fast on ancient hardware so you might as well move on now. Photoshop CS won't run very well on a P450 either. That's a fairly lame complaint since most users don't have your problem. The Mozilla developers also never claimed it would be a browser for old computing platforms in the first place. I don't know why you assumed that. I have btw used Firefox on that era hardware as well. It's no speed demon loading but useable once it launched. On my PIII 700 laptop with 256MB, a machine only a little newer than users, Firefox runs pretty well and its all I use.
XP Professional upgrade Retail which is what the vast majority of normal people buy cost anywhere from ~$165 to $199 depending on where you go. So no, that $85 academic upgrade version doesn't count.
see the post a little above for the link to the redistributable version then just copy it over gdiplus.dll where needed. btw if your doing an sp2 slipstream update might as well copy gdiplus.dll over any versions of it in the service pack once expanded.
Really? Why? ATI has always had shit Linux drivers and that hasn't stopped ID from releasing Linux binaries in the past. Is this some sort of annoying marketing agreement?
I remember that bug but it only happened with one particular build for me something like Phoenix.6 or such. I've been using Phoenix/firebird/firefox since day one and I only saw that bug for a very short period. It was annoying but a reload always fixed it.
I've also read slashdot daily for years so I'm surprised I don't see often as others claim they do. I am now of course using.10 and have not seen it yet. Like I said, odd that 25% of the time you have that problem and yet I haven't seen it in 6 months. Are you using non-standard fonts, an odd-ball resolution?
I can't say that your problem doesn't exist but have you tried with.10 and a fresh profile? As it stands the Flash plugin work seemlessly and the whole process is very slick. First time you go to a Flash site and hit install it just works without a restart. The same will happen with other plugins in the future IIRC. I haven't been prompted again for Flash as well.
To be honest once I saw the changes pouring in after Firefox was "feature complete" I got really annoyed and thought Firefox 1.0 was going to be a steaming pile of half-finished shit. Seeing how far they have come though since.9 and how promising the plugin and extension architectures are I am now very hopeful. 1.0 will feature moron proof access to web plugins and extension with the ability to update without hosing your profile. Its gonna be sweet.
Mucking around with your distro and editting config files isn't all its cracked up to be once you've been doing it for a while. I have to constantly hear this "but Gentoo lets you get into the nuts and bolts of the OS" B.S. I'm getting old, I have better things to do then tweak or screw around with my OS. Training to be an admin? Fine monkey around guilt free while your still learning. Want to use your OS for actually doing anything? Join the rest of the world.
Think in 20 years anyone will still be obsessed with the commandline and knowing every detail about their OS? God I hope not.
Kirk : Scottie! Get that warp drive online! Scottie : But captain I'm still busy customizing my USE flags!
Your telling me. I was plently willing to stick with Stormix long term.
"I'd love to have a "user friendly" Debian distro to recommend to people so that they aren't stuck using Mandrake,"
Hello, Fedora, Suse. Anyway, while I'm no fan of proprietary Linux if your set on using a Debian based distro that's user friendly why aren't you pointing them at Xandros or Lindows? Really easy to use, newbie friendly versions of Debian are in short supply.
Showing that most users here run Windows and IE isn't exactly the best PR for one of the most popular pro-Linux sites on the net. You'll never see logfiles from here. Although like most tech sites I'd venture a guess that *zilla products would make up a very small yet growing part of vistors.
This whole topic of who "innovates" the most or even worse as you seem to unfortunately be stuck on, who "innovates" first has gotten really old. Posts where people harp on innovation are about on the same level of those posts where people complain that OSS projects never have good names. Give it a rest already.
If you think that only "recently" linux and OSS have begun to innovate then you've been living with blinders on.
Wow you have the nerve to attack the Dems but then mention Karl Rove as being some sort of victim? I have more respect for Sadam.
"Secondly, I believe that the people that the Deomcrats have chosen as their leadership are wholly dishonest"
Right back at ya chief. I've never seen a bigger bunch of unethical immoral human being then what I'm seeing with GW and Halliburton, I mean DICK. The world is a MUCH worse place because of them.
"I love folks like Pat Cadell. He's not a "win at any cost" Democrat. It's too bad that he and folks like him don't have more influence in their party."
Yea and is too bad that anti-environment, anti-veteran, anti-senior, anti-labor NeoCons completely control the Republican agenda. Your not trying to actually imply that the current administration isn't guilty of the exact charge your trying to level are you?
Considering the dirty tricks your side has been playing and how far right they are, you've got some big balls to say you wish the Dems were not playing "win at any cost". Did you even watch the Republican convention? Republicans are finally just starting to get back a tiny bit of what they have been dishing out for over a decade. And yet you act hurt? I only wish the Left grew some balls four years ago.
I keep seeing Bruce talk about how easy its going to be for outsiders to influence UserLinux which he says doesn't happen with Fedora. He may have a point that Fedora's direction is very much controlled by Red Hat but watch what happens in a few years once UserLinux becomes established. Mature projects are very difficult to bend to your whim or take in a new direction. Thus the many debian forks.
I also don't see how going negative on other distros is going to help your cause when commenting in public. Prove why your better with code, not somewhat negative marketing against Red Hat. You seem to be a bit Red Hat obessed and constantly mention them in the UnitedLinux white paper. I'd rather see why its better than Windows, Solaris, or OS X, not fellow OSS distros. Yes I know your trying to appeal to linux users first but great features sell themselves better than a negative comment anyday. And realize that future UserLinux users will pick up on your tone and intent. A year from now I don't think we all want to a bunch of UserLinux users Trolling against Red Hat and other distros constantly here and elsewhere.
I wish UserLinux the best of luck though and very much look forward to trying it out. It sounds like a great idea and is definitely needed. One more distro in the mix especially a Free one that caters to the business crowd specifically is fine by me.
" RH & Suse are attempts to strap "traditonal" lock-in software business to OSS/Linux... they are bound to fail."
Yes, let's hope that Red Hat and Suse fail along with all their employees who work on key OSS projects. Yea that would be great! Then we could all use Gentoo! I'm sorry but Moronic post.
Oh btw how can you get locked in when your using a completely OSS distro? And no fanboy Debian isn't the only "real" oss. Whatever that means.
They or whoever owns Atari's corpse in 20 years will just keep re-releasing this stuff on new systems forever. And of course Congress will oblige with copyrights that never expire. Sorry but I already shelled out for the real catridges once I'm not doing it again. Emulation is the only way to go IMHO. I don't begrudge anyone who wants to buy this but let's not turn this thread into a emulation users are stealing from the artists thread. I doubt most of the original programmers are even getting a dime from this.
"But Bonnell downplayed the impact bootlegging could have on sales for "Atari Anthology" and the Atari Flashback console."
"You're right to say that a lot of them are bootlegged, and the code is not the right code, and the color is not the right color."
Maybe I'll put up a site showing Bush's speech from last Thursday where he talks about how its our moral duty to take care of Seniors. Then we will have a nice Mirrored image of his face where when you click it, it shows his massive 17% increase in Medicare. That or flash clip playing audio of Bush saying both "I'm a war President" and "I'm a peace President" over and over.
The people who actually decide what goes on the air and in print over are overwhelmingly conservative. This has been shown in many studies yet somehow people dredge up that tired old arguement about liberal journalists. Yea journalists tend to be more liberal then not, let's not forget who is really in charge.
Of course your right. But knowing that pretty smart people are working on this I don't think your going to see them go ahead with an implementation that's only half the speed of current linux file systems. I'm sure they'll only go ahead with this and integrate it into KDE when the performance is up to snuff. It's simply way too early to say that the benefits out weigh cost until the code is complete.
Flashblock has received a ton of complaints about it not working or Flash sites stopping working etc. Many people seem to think its a buggy extension. Plus considering 90%+ of users use IE I'm surprised they would go to that length for a minority used browser and an even more minority used extension.
Anyway if what you said is true that's aweful and probably illegal to boot. I'd verify what you think is happening is really happening or at least get someone else to verify it. Then file complaints with Macromedia and then spread the word to the big tech sites. Start with the Mozillazine forums first though and make sure that you can get others to reproduce this.
Some people just could give two shits about PC's and have no interest in them beyond the fact that the big blue "E" gets them to their homepage where they can check the weather. Its not that they are not capable of learning the basics they simply choose not to. While your busy telling your friend the same thing for the 53rd time he's making a conscious or subconscious effort to be sure he ignores what you just told him so that he can go on to different things. In one ear out the other, all on purpose. Trust me if you told him he would literally die if he didn't perform a certain set of tasks on his PC he would quickly figure it out and never forget how to perform that function.
My father who is an Attorney used to tune and maintain his old Triumph Spitefire. He had no problem remembering how to do a tuneup or fix his breaks. Yet somehow he's not smart enough to figure out how to navigate the Windows filesystem which he has been using for years? Nope, he like your friend has never just flat out tried to learn how to use a computer. If you don't "play" around with your PC or gadget and explore what you can do you'll never learn what it can do. Plus why learn something when you can just call your friend/son whenever you need to? It obviously doesn't bother them that they are technically inept so they will just continue the behavior.
Didn't see any increase or decrease in performance but OSA9.exe kept pegging at 100% after SP2 was installed. Also I now get errors with Wordpad about registered filetype or some such. I give SP2 6/10 for breaking my laptop and ultimately wasting my time with a reinstall which I'll now probably have to do at some point.
before anyone suggests it, I don't have any viruses or spyware installed and I don't use IE or Outlook. SP2 just broke some things as MS themselves admit.
If you had half a brain you'd realize that tutorial was written completely tongue in cheek and as the lead-in page clearly states its supposed to be "rude". I guess you couldn't figure that part out? Wow you Photoshop users will do anything to slam GIMP huh?
For anyone else dumb enough to think that's how all GIMP tutorials are written read the rest of the tutorials espeically the ones under "photo editting".
Most people can't even figure out what to download to enable the ogg codec on their systems in the first place.
Let's take the typical Windows Media Player user and say they want to play some ogg files.
1) serach for ogg on google and you find vorbis.com. "Cool, I can't wait to play these ogg files I legally obtained."
2) Try figure out where the "ogg" codec is and then click on the "vorbis" link.
3) Select OS and to come to a page which doesn't list WMP and only seems to have some old versions of winamp and some media players they have never even heard of.
4) Click "other software" because you can't find anything that will just let you play ogg files on WMP.
5) Scroll through through over 30 programs and then give up because you can't find what you need. Those with more patience will keep scrooling till they find "OggDS Direct Show Filters" which is something like the 40th program on the page. Install the codec and then realize that WMP doesn't support ogg very well and avoid ogg files in the future.
For whatever reason the people at Vorbis do everything in their power to keep people from using ogg in WMP and your asking why Microsoft doesn't do a better job at supporting ogg? Its a two way street.
The link to the DirectShow version of the Format should be 2 clicks away from the front page listed right under playes. If the Vorbis people want to see ogg marketshare grow among enduser they need to do a much better job at A)enabling them to play ogg files in WMP and B) adopting and advocating a GUI win32 encoder and c) explaing why ogg is better than mp3. Saying its not patent encumbered and saying its as good or slightly better than mp3 is't going to cut it. I don't envy them for that hard a task but I'm also not the one putting out the software.
I've said many times in the past that ogg is great for content producers. That does't change the fact that for all intended purposes ogg is very much a solution in search of a problem with regard to the idea of replacing the mp3 with consumers.
It is actually a good thing that the sheep your talking about, ie consumers are that way when you think about it though. It will make the transition to OSS all the more easy. Bear with me for a second.
Change at least when it comes to saying No to licensing costs, vendor lockin, and proprietary IP encumbered technologies is happening at a pretty good clip in the business world. Large business are Very much aware of the benefits to OSS and that has in turn filtered down to the SMB. OSS has become hugely popular in the Corporate business world for core technologies. The next step is the business desktop which may be painfully slow but IS happening. Compare the state of the OSS desktop now to where it was 5 years ago? Whose to say that 5 years from now Adobe won't be falling all over itself to gain a foothold in the OSS market because apps like Scribus(awesome awesome app) and Gimp have eaten its market share away? Don't think OSS will be fully pre-press ready by then? You'd be wrong considering how far an app like Scribus has come even now. No way OpenOffice does't seriously tear into Microsoft's Office dominance by then either.
Then finally we will see the trickle down to consumers. IP was the reason for OSS to exist and now more than ever IP is part of the reason why business's are going OSS. Freedom from lockin in proprietary technologies is something that many business want to invest their futures in. Why do you think MS is killing itself trying not to lose customers to OSS? They know that once they've gone OSS that's it, they're not coming back. The fact that this will all trickle down the consumers is just icing on the cake. =
btw for Anyone even remotely interted in Linux DTP and how far its come read this linuxdevcenter article on Scribus, great stuff! http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/ 2004/09/ 02/scribus.html
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I think its because who is involved with the project. Because of that alone it has already gained enormous street cred. If this turns out as planned and lives up to the hype it's going to be a very good thing for linux in general. An up to date version of Debian which actually focuses on ease of use but remains Free long term is something that's been needed for a long time. Plus based on who is involved this project actually does have a chance of being around in 2 years. This isn't just 2 users coming together to fork Debian and "hoping" they'll be around to grow the project.
But as to what your alluding to, yes the hype machine is in full effect and I completely understand why people uninterested in Debian have had enough of Ubuntu "reviews" right now. Personally I'm still a fan of Fedora and Red Hat but I'm definitely giving Ubuntu a spin once it's stable.
For the rest of you don't forget, A)choice can be a good thing and B)OSS devs aren't cattle to be herded to whatever OSS project you think they should be working on.
The user has to actually initiate the update themselves. You simply see a little red arrow, click it, and then are asked to update. Why is this bad if mozilla.org knows how to secure itself?
"Who doesn't think that this kind of thing will have endless potential for hackers to exploit in the years ahead."
Don't you think they've thought of that? Update installs are coded for mozilla.org only and I expect other layered security to come as well. Give them a little credit already. When mozilla/firefox becomes the plauge of the Internet like IE is currently then you can start throwing accusations around. Until then based on their track record I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
"The ability for a browser to download and execute things on the client automatically is just a huge security risk, regardless of the measures that the designers think they have put in place."
Just because Microsoft completely fucked up with IE doesn't mean all of IE's features are bad, just not properly secured. Your wrongly throwing away an entire workable concept for all the wrong reasons.
Also AFAIK there has never been a hack of either Windows Update or Red Hat Network where someone got trojaned for installing an update. Again, expect tighter controls on who can install what in the future.
" next to unusable on my old workstation (450 MHz, RH 7.3) "
Yes, and xp runs slow on 5 to 6 year old hardware as well. What your point? The zilla's won't ever be blazing fast on ancient hardware so you might as well move on now. Photoshop CS won't run very well on a P450 either. That's a fairly lame complaint since most users don't have your problem. The Mozilla developers also never claimed it would be a browser for old computing platforms in the first place. I don't know why you assumed that. I have btw used Firefox on that era hardware as well. It's no speed demon loading but useable once it launched. On my PIII 700 laptop with 256MB, a machine only a little newer than users, Firefox runs pretty well and its all I use.
XP Professional upgrade Retail which is what the vast majority of normal people buy cost anywhere from ~$165 to $199 depending on where you go. So no, that $85 academic upgrade version doesn't count.
see the post a little above for the link to the redistributable version then just copy it over gdiplus.dll where needed. btw if your doing an sp2 slipstream update might as well copy gdiplus.dll over any versions of it in the service pack once expanded.
Really? Why? ATI has always had shit Linux drivers and that hasn't stopped ID from releasing Linux binaries in the past. Is this some sort of annoying marketing agreement?
I remember that bug but it only happened with one particular build for me something like Phoenix .6 or such. I've been using Phoenix/firebird/firefox since day one and I only saw that bug for a very short period. It was annoying but a reload always fixed it.
.10 and have not seen it yet. Like I said, odd that 25% of the time you have that problem and yet I haven't seen it in 6 months. Are you using non-standard fonts, an odd-ball resolution?
I've also read slashdot daily for years so I'm surprised I don't see often as others claim they do. I am now of course using
I can't say that your problem doesn't exist but have you tried with .10 and a fresh profile? As it stands the Flash plugin work seemlessly and the whole process is very slick. First time you go to a Flash site and hit install it just works without a restart. The same will happen with other plugins in the future IIRC. I haven't been prompted again for Flash as well.
.9 and how promising the plugin and extension architectures are I am now very hopeful. 1.0 will feature moron proof access to web plugins and extension with the ability to update without hosing your profile. Its gonna be sweet.
To be honest once I saw the changes pouring in after Firefox was "feature complete" I got really annoyed and thought Firefox 1.0 was going to be a steaming pile of half-finished shit. Seeing how far they have come though since
Mucking around with your distro and editting config files isn't all its cracked up to be once you've been doing it for a while. I have to constantly hear this "but Gentoo lets you get into the nuts and bolts of the OS" B.S. I'm getting old, I have better things to do then tweak or screw around with my OS. Training to be an admin? Fine monkey around guilt free while your still learning. Want to use your OS for actually doing anything? Join the rest of the world.
Think in 20 years anyone will still be obsessed with the commandline and knowing every detail about their OS? God I hope not.
Kirk : Scottie! Get that warp drive online!
Scottie : But captain I'm still busy customizing my USE flags!
Your telling me. I was plently willing to stick with Stormix long term.
"I'd love to have a "user friendly" Debian distro to recommend to people so that they aren't stuck using Mandrake,"
Hello, Fedora, Suse. Anyway, while I'm no fan of proprietary Linux if your set on using a Debian based distro that's user friendly why aren't you pointing them at Xandros or Lindows? Really easy to use, newbie friendly versions of Debian are in short supply.
Showing that most users here run Windows and IE isn't exactly the best PR for one of the most popular pro-Linux sites on the net. You'll never see logfiles from here. Although like most tech sites I'd venture a guess that *zilla products would make up a very small yet growing part of vistors.
This whole topic of who "innovates" the most or even worse as you seem to unfortunately be stuck on, who "innovates" first has gotten really old. Posts where people harp on innovation are about on the same level of those posts where people complain that OSS projects never have good names. Give it a rest already.
If you think that only "recently" linux and OSS have begun to innovate then you've been living with blinders on.
Wow you have the nerve to attack the Dems but then mention Karl Rove as being some sort of victim? I have more respect for Sadam.
"Secondly, I believe that the people that the Deomcrats have chosen as their leadership are wholly dishonest"
Right back at ya chief. I've never seen a bigger bunch of unethical immoral human being then what I'm seeing with GW and Halliburton, I mean DICK. The world is a MUCH worse place because of them.
"I love folks like Pat Cadell. He's not a "win at any cost" Democrat. It's too bad that he and folks like him don't have more influence in their party."
Yea and is too bad that anti-environment, anti-veteran, anti-senior, anti-labor NeoCons completely control the Republican agenda. Your not trying to actually imply that the current administration isn't guilty of the exact charge your trying to level are you?
Considering the dirty tricks your side has been playing and how far right they are, you've got some big balls to say you wish the Dems were not playing "win at any cost". Did you even watch the Republican convention? Republicans are finally just starting to get back a tiny bit of what they have been dishing out for over a decade. And yet you act hurt? I only wish the Left grew some balls four years ago.
I keep seeing Bruce talk about how easy its going to be for outsiders to influence UserLinux which he says doesn't happen with Fedora. He may have a point that Fedora's direction is very much controlled by Red Hat but watch what happens in a few years once UserLinux becomes established. Mature projects are very difficult to bend to your whim or take in a new direction. Thus the many debian forks.
I also don't see how going negative on other distros is going to help your cause when commenting in public. Prove why your better with code, not somewhat negative marketing against Red Hat. You seem to be a bit Red Hat obessed and constantly mention them in the UnitedLinux white paper. I'd rather see why its better than Windows, Solaris, or OS X, not fellow OSS distros. Yes I know your trying to appeal to linux users first but great features sell themselves better than a negative comment anyday. And realize that future UserLinux users will pick up on your tone and intent. A year from now I don't think we all want to a bunch of UserLinux users Trolling against Red Hat and other distros constantly here and elsewhere.
I wish UserLinux the best of luck though and very much look forward to trying it out. It sounds like a great idea and is definitely needed. One more distro in the mix especially a Free one that caters to the business crowd specifically is fine by me.
" RH & Suse are attempts to strap "traditonal" lock-in software business to OSS/Linux... they are bound to fail."
Yes, let's hope that Red Hat and Suse fail along with all their employees who work on key OSS projects. Yea that would be great! Then we could all use Gentoo! I'm sorry but Moronic post.
Oh btw how can you get locked in when your using a completely OSS distro? And no fanboy Debian isn't the only "real" oss. Whatever that means.
They or whoever owns Atari's corpse in 20 years will just keep re-releasing this stuff on new systems forever. And of course Congress will oblige with copyrights that never expire. Sorry but I already shelled out for the real catridges once I'm not doing it again. Emulation is the only way to go IMHO. I don't begrudge anyone who wants to buy this but let's not turn this thread into a emulation users are stealing from the artists thread. I doubt most of the original programmers are even getting a dime from this.
"But Bonnell downplayed the impact bootlegging could have on sales for "Atari Anthology" and the Atari Flashback console."
"You're right to say that a lot of them are bootlegged, and the code is not the right code, and the color is not the right color."
Uh sure buddy. Whatever you say.
Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief
/. Political Forum is awesome!!!
And no I'm not interested in 12 minutes. Just 7.
Maybe I'll put up a site showing Bush's speech from last Thursday where he talks about how its our moral duty to take care of Seniors. Then we will have a nice Mirrored image of his face where when you click it, it shows his massive 17% increase in Medicare. That or flash clip playing audio of Bush saying both "I'm a war President" and "I'm a peace President" over and over.
Man this new
The people who actually decide what goes on the air and in print over are overwhelmingly conservative. This has been shown in many studies yet somehow people dredge up that tired old arguement about liberal journalists. Yea journalists tend to be more liberal then not, let's not forget who is really in charge.
Of course your right. But knowing that pretty smart people are working on this I don't think your going to see them go ahead with an implementation that's only half the speed of current linux file systems. I'm sure they'll only go ahead with this and integrate it into KDE when the performance is up to snuff. It's simply way too early to say that the benefits out weigh cost until the code is complete.
Flashblock has received a ton of complaints about it not working or Flash sites stopping working etc. Many people seem to think its a buggy extension. Plus considering 90%+ of users use IE I'm surprised they would go to that length for a minority used browser and an even more minority used extension.
Anyway if what you said is true that's aweful and probably illegal to boot. I'd verify what you think is happening is really happening or at least get someone else to verify it. Then file complaints with Macromedia and then spread the word to the big tech sites. Start with the Mozillazine forums first though and make sure that you can get others to reproduce this.
Some people just could give two shits about PC's and have no interest in them beyond the fact that the big blue "E" gets them to their homepage where they can check the weather. Its not that they are not capable of learning the basics they simply choose not to. While your busy telling your friend the same thing for the 53rd time he's making a conscious or subconscious effort to be sure he ignores what you just told him so that he can go on to different things. In one ear out the other, all on purpose. Trust me if you told him he would literally die if he didn't perform a certain set of tasks on his PC he would quickly figure it out and never forget how to perform that function.
My father who is an Attorney used to tune and maintain his old Triumph Spitefire. He had no problem remembering how to do a tuneup or fix his breaks. Yet somehow he's not smart enough to figure out how to navigate the Windows filesystem which he has been using for years? Nope, he like your friend has never just flat out tried to learn how to use a computer. If you don't "play" around with your PC or gadget and explore what you can do you'll never learn what it can do. Plus why learn something when you can just call your friend/son whenever you need to? It obviously doesn't bother them that they are technically inept so they will just continue the behavior.
Yet Another Insprion Owner.
Didn't see any increase or decrease in performance but OSA9.exe kept pegging at 100% after SP2 was installed. Also I now get errors with Wordpad about registered filetype or some such. I give SP2 6/10 for breaking my laptop and ultimately wasting my time with a reinstall which I'll now probably have to do at some point.
before anyone suggests it, I don't have any viruses or spyware installed and I don't use IE or Outlook. SP2 just broke some things as MS themselves admit.
If you had half a brain you'd realize that tutorial was written completely tongue in cheek and as the lead-in page clearly states its supposed to be "rude". I guess you couldn't figure that part out? Wow you Photoshop users will do anything to slam GIMP huh?
For anyone else dumb enough to think that's how all GIMP tutorials are written read the rest of the tutorials espeically the ones under "photo editting".
Better error correction.
Bettter quality mp3 encoder.
Many more formats supported. Ogg, monkey's audio, aac, wav, wma etc.
Can't even compare feature-wise.
From a ripping and encoding standpoint its not even worth talking about being that CDex is better in almost every way.
Most people can't even figure out what to download to enable the ogg codec on their systems in the first place.
Let's take the typical Windows Media Player user and say they want to play some ogg files.
1) serach for ogg on google and you find vorbis.com. "Cool, I can't wait to play these ogg files I legally obtained."
2) Try figure out where the "ogg" codec is and then click on the "vorbis" link.
3) Select OS and to come to a page which doesn't list WMP and only seems to have some old versions of winamp and some media players they have never even heard of.
4) Click "other software" because you can't find anything that will just let you play ogg files on WMP.
5) Scroll through through over 30 programs and then give up because you can't find what you need. Those with more patience will keep scrooling till they find "OggDS Direct Show Filters" which is something like the 40th program on the page. Install the codec and then realize that WMP doesn't support ogg very well and avoid ogg files in the future.
For whatever reason the people at Vorbis do everything in their power to keep people from using ogg in WMP and your asking why Microsoft doesn't do a better job at supporting ogg? Its a two way street.
The link to the DirectShow version of the Format should be 2 clicks away from the front page listed right under playes. If the Vorbis people want to see ogg marketshare grow among enduser they need to do a much better job at A)enabling them to play ogg files in WMP and B) adopting and advocating a GUI win32 encoder and c) explaing why ogg is better than mp3. Saying its not patent encumbered and saying its as good or slightly better than mp3 is't going to cut it. I don't envy them for that hard a task but I'm also not the one putting out the software.
I've said many times in the past that ogg is great for content producers. That does't change the fact that for all intended purposes ogg is very much a solution in search of a problem with regard to the idea of replacing the mp3 with consumers.
It is actually a good thing that the sheep your talking about, ie consumers are that way when you think about it though. It will make the transition to OSS all the more easy. Bear with me for a second.
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Change at least when it comes to saying No to licensing costs, vendor lockin, and proprietary IP encumbered technologies is happening at a pretty good clip in the business world. Large business are Very much aware of the benefits to OSS and that has in turn filtered down to the SMB. OSS has become hugely popular in the Corporate business world for core technologies. The next step is the business desktop which may be painfully slow but IS happening. Compare the state of the OSS desktop now to where it was 5 years ago? Whose to say that 5 years from now Adobe won't be falling all over itself to gain a foothold in the OSS market because apps like Scribus(awesome awesome app) and Gimp have eaten its market share away? Don't think OSS will be fully pre-press ready by then? You'd be wrong considering how far an app like Scribus has come even now. No way OpenOffice does't seriously tear into Microsoft's Office dominance by then either.
Then finally we will see the trickle down to consumers. IP was the reason for OSS to exist and now more than ever IP is part of the reason why business's are going OSS. Freedom from lockin in proprietary technologies is something that many business want to invest their futures in. Why do you think MS is killing itself trying not to lose customers to OSS? They know that once they've gone OSS that's it, they're not coming back. The fact that this will all trickle down the consumers is just icing on the cake. =
btw for Anyone even remotely interted in Linux DTP and how far its come read this linuxdevcenter article on Scribus, great stuff!
http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux