"Right, they aren't prisoners of war. To be a prisoner of war you have to follow the Geneva convention ON THE BATTLEFIELD. You know, wear a uniform, identifiable markings"
Ok, so what are they? If they were imprisoned on the US mainland then surely they are subject to US law and so are *innocent until +proven+ guilty*. They haven't been allowed the minimum of justice. If they are not prisoners of war then they should be held and tried in the country they were captured in. You can't have your cake and eat it.
"They're brigands. Little more than pirates. Frankly, they're lucky they weren't just lined up and shot."
So why are they any different from, say McVeigh the Oklahoma bomber. Is it because they aren't US citizens? So the US state is racist now? You can't just arbitrarily remove the rights of individuals because of what they did or who they are. That is how the rot starts as it has done before.
"You got evidence of torture? Bring it on. There is none. Three squares, clean clothes, prayer mats, exercise yard, the works. Their conditions are equal to and better than typical prisons".
So prisoners are typically led around with bags on their heads? People in the US are regularly locked up, deprived of their freedom, with out trial? You *must* treat everyone equally. Anything else leads the road to ruin.
"I wonder how France would have treated these guys...you might want to check out their kindly ways during the Algerian and Vietnamese wars..."
I don't care how France treated people. That is past. How they and other nations treat people now and in the future is important. As I said before you don't just have to carry out justice you have to be seen to be carrying out justice. Anything else just isn't good enough and makes you as bad as the bad guys.
Then there's turbo diesels. For example the Rover 25 2.0ltr Turbo Diesel has an extra-urban cycle of 67mpg which equates to 54mpg using US gallons. Performance isn't too bad either.
Is this the same freedom that the US prisoners down in Cuba have. They are not prisoners of war (and so the Geneva convention is not being followed) and they are not prisoners of the State (because they have no legal representation). The US was one of the few countries that did *NOT* sign up to the UN anti-torture pact in 1984. And despite finally signing up to it 10 years later tried to block the treaty.
For any country (including the UK) to have the moral imperetive it must be *seen* to be better than the bad guys. That's just not happening.
Over half the population of the UK was against the war. Over a third of the members of parliament of our government voted against action in Iraq. Many of us are so cross with Blair and his actions. To see the anti-war feelings here's a list of articles. My local city was disrupted again yesterday when students took to the streets to protest against the war.
If you ask the most Brits will say that they generally like Americans as individuals but hate the US (as represented by it's Government).
"By the way, were you this opposed to war when Clinton was bombing civilian targets in Serbia?"
Tell that to all the dead transsexuals who suffered with depression so much they killed themselves. It *is* life threatening and after 50 years surgery rather than psychiatry is still the most effective treatment.
Using the same logic, someone born with a hole in the heart, shouldn't bother with all that troublesome surgery and just be happy with their lot.
The trouble with gender dysphoria is really only another gender dysphoric person can actually understand the condition. Some try to accept the way they were born and succeed but live unhappy lives, others realise that there really is no option but to transition and then live happy and fulfilled lives.
It's not just the games industry. It's the same in the embedded world. I suppose it's because we were all 8 bit hackers, locked in our bedrooms, hiding from the world. The we bought modems, found others like ourselves and how to deal with our feelings, went out and got sorted.
You and me both. The last estimate put 85% of the UKs population as cell phone owners. I originally bought a cell phone because I ride motorcycles and some of them are classics (ie old and knackered!) and so when they go wrong, which they do every now and then, I can call the recovery people and get myself home again.
Now I can't live without it. Me and my phone are inseparable. To me it's not just a phone it's a portable communications device. Yes I can receive and make calls with it (I use profiles to determine which calls I actually want to handle and which I want to automatically forward on to my voice mail), I can text people, I can send and receive e-mail (I used that recently to send an e-mail to my boss to tell him I was running late because my train to work had mechanicals problems). I can access information sites such as train time tables, the news headlines, phone directories and the like. In fact many of the uses of my phone mean I *don't* actually have to talk to people. Finally I use it as a walkman (MP3s).
I hardly ever use a land line. But I'm not being disturbed all the time by my cell phone rining. Because I live a life which means I'm often on the move the phone is an essential way of keeping in touch with my nearest and dearest. I see my cell phone as a social tool. I really can't understand the phobia that many slashdotters (predominently american) have of cell phones.
Which is odd considering a hogs head would either weigh that much or be that big in volume anyway so one wonders where the term came from.
Of course we've ditched funny units now (except for a couple which are for special use due to the general public's intransigence) for the sake of compatability and easy of use.
You're completely right of course. I must be getting old because I had a RISC OS 2.1 machine back in 1989. As for Acorn machines, I got my first one in 1983. My venerable Beeb is 20 years old this year.
Ever heard of RISC OS It's been around for about ten years now. It was used widely in schools (until Blair started getting chummy with a certain Mr Gates) on British designed hardware by Acorn. Now-a-days the Brits contribute a lot to the open source community. Alan Cox and Russell King are two notable personalities.
I for one definitely don't say give me microsoft and probably use more european software than american software. My hardware is mainly Taiwanese, Korean or Japanese except for the SGIs. The US is definitely not the fount of all knowledge and technology.
I try other distros but seem to find myself coming back to Slackware every time. Last weekend I bit the bullet and installed slackware-current which has now become 9-RC1 and I kind of like it. I'm not running servers or anything like that, it's just for my desktop machine. Also I'm finally using KDE after using enlightenment for years. I prefer minimal desktops and the last time I used KDE (early days mind) it was all look and no substance. Now I can configure it to be fairly minimal whilst keeping the usefulness of of an integrated desktop.
So all in all I'm happy with the reinstall. It seems stable and does what it says on the tin.
"Funny thing is, it was still the US doing most of the work. Seemed to end the conflict too, even if it wasn't pretty. Wonder why NATO wasn't invited to go to Afghanistan with us? There's your answer."
We didn't need to send the whole of NATO, just John Simpson of the BBC!
Anyway aren't the US part of NATO. And I know the Brits were definitely there.
You want a T68i and one of these the Ericsson MP3 player. Although it doesn't list the T68i as a compatable phone it works fine. The quality is pretty good and it works well as a hands free kit by pausing the music when you get an incoming call. If you've recorded a voice dial 'word' against a name in the phone book it will even replay that when it gets a recognised caller.
It comes with a 32Mb MM card (standard FAT16 format) and a workable but naff card reader. I've found by using VBR encoding at 64Kbps I get very reasonable quality with a playing time of about 2 hours on a 64Mb card.
Battery life is reduced. I find with using the player for about 3 hours a day (travelling to and from work) together with leaving the phone on all the time and may be and hours calls a day I get two to three days charge out of the battery. Using the 'magic word' voice dial (rather than press button voice dial) cuts that down to about 36 hours.
It must depend upon how you use the phone. I tend to use mine for phoning the same old numbers over and over again so it's "yes", select number, "yes". My most common numbers have been set up for voice dial so it's hold "yes" for a couple of seconds then say name. You can't get simpler or quicker than that.
I'm sad enough that my local food delivery outlet is stored with the word "Pizza". So it's pick up phone, holding "Yes" button as I do, say pizza and voila!
" These combined devices are too big and the battery life typically sucks. I think that you make too many compromises by throwing everything into the same device. I think that it is better to split them up.
The phone should be as small as possible with awesome battery life. Simple email, contact list, and calendar access is a must. I always carry the phone."
You've obviously never seen a T68i. It's about as small as it can be whilst allowing me to actually press the buttons. It will run almost a fornight on standby (ie on but not transmitting phone calls) and even using the clip on MP3 player I generally only have to charge it once a working week.
It has bluetooth and IrDA, uses GSM and GPRS standards and works fine with my PDA both as a modem for internet usage and synching it's phone book and calendar via OBEX.
Move to a country which actually believes in personal privacy. The US seems to be going in exactly the oposite direction the Europe with respect to the privacy of the individual. There are very strict laws here on what can and can't be done with personal information. This Total Information Awareness Program would be highly illegal over here.
Your sample is skewed. What about the Oaklahoma bomb? Are all Irish people terrorists just because a few are? You are taring hundreds of millions of people due to a very few misguided ones.
"First they came for the communists and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the socialists and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak up for me."
You must know by now that a straight comparison of figures on paper is meaningless. An SGI Octane with what, on paper, is a low clock speed trounces all over an equivalent intel machine. Remind me what the main processor of a PS2 is.
"Technologically it beats the crap out of the PS2 although the game line-up could be better"
Surely game play is the whole point of consoles. It doesn't matter how pretty a game is, how many vertices a console can render, how many channels of sound it has etc etc. In the end it's down to game play. The best of the 8 bit micro games are still very enjoyable and in modern terms they have crap sound and graphics. The PC version of Vice City is prettier than the PS2 version but it's still the same game the extra is just icing on the cake. I bought a PS2 purely because there were more really playable games.
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"Right, they aren't prisoners of war. To be a prisoner of war you have to follow the Geneva convention ON THE BATTLEFIELD. You know, wear a uniform, identifiable markings"
Ok, so what are they? If they were imprisoned on the US mainland then surely they are subject to US law and so are *innocent until +proven+ guilty*. They haven't been allowed the minimum of justice. If they are not prisoners of war then they should be held and tried in the country they were captured in. You can't have your cake and eat it.
"They're brigands. Little more than pirates. Frankly, they're lucky they weren't just lined up and shot."
So why are they any different from, say McVeigh the Oklahoma bomber. Is it because they aren't US citizens? So the US state is racist now? You can't just arbitrarily remove the rights of individuals because of what they did or who they are. That is how the rot starts as it has done before.
"You got evidence of torture? Bring it on. There is none. Three squares, clean clothes, prayer mats, exercise yard, the works. Their conditions are equal to and better than typical prisons".
So prisoners are typically led around with bags on their heads? People in the US are regularly locked up, deprived of their freedom, with out trial? You *must* treat everyone equally. Anything else leads the road to ruin.
"I wonder how France would have treated these guys...you might want to check out their kindly ways during the Algerian and Vietnamese wars..."
I don't care how France treated people. That is past. How they and other nations treat people now and in the future is important. As I said before you don't just have to carry out justice you have to be seen to be carrying out justice. Anything else just isn't good enough and makes you as bad as the bad guys.
Then there's turbo diesels. For example the Rover 25 2.0ltr Turbo Diesel has an extra-urban cycle of 67mpg which equates to 54mpg using US gallons. Performance isn't too bad either.
Is this the same freedom that the US prisoners down in Cuba have. They are not prisoners of war (and so the Geneva convention is not being followed) and they are not prisoners of the State (because they have no legal representation). The US was one of the few countries that did *NOT* sign up to the UN anti-torture pact in 1984. And despite finally signing up to it 10 years later tried to block the treaty.
For any country (including the UK) to have the moral imperetive it must be *seen* to be better than the bad guys. That's just not happening.
"And I'm sure you have evidence for this"
Over half the population of the UK was against the war. Over a third of the members of parliament of our government voted against action in Iraq. Many of us are so cross with Blair and his actions. To see the anti-war feelings here's a list of articles. My local city was disrupted again yesterday when students took to the streets to protest against the war.
If you ask the most Brits will say that they generally like Americans as individuals but hate the US (as represented by it's Government).
"By the way, were you this opposed to war when Clinton was bombing civilian targets in Serbia?"
Yes!
Tell that to all the dead transsexuals who suffered with depression so much they killed themselves. It *is* life threatening and after 50 years surgery rather than psychiatry is still the most effective treatment.
Using the same logic, someone born with a hole in the heart, shouldn't bother with all that troublesome surgery and just be happy with their lot.
The trouble with gender dysphoria is really only another gender dysphoric person can actually understand the condition. Some try to accept the way they were born and succeed but live unhappy lives, others realise that there really is no option but to transition and then live happy and fulfilled lives.
It's not just the games industry. It's the same in the embedded world. I suppose it's because we were all 8 bit hackers, locked in our bedrooms, hiding from the world. The we bought modems, found others like ourselves and how to deal with our feelings, went out and got sorted.
Hi Jamie!
You and me both. The last estimate put 85% of the UKs population as cell phone owners. I originally bought a cell phone because I ride motorcycles and some of them are classics (ie old and knackered!) and so when they go wrong, which they do every now and then, I can call the recovery people and get myself home again.
Now I can't live without it. Me and my phone are inseparable. To me it's not just a phone it's a portable communications device. Yes I can receive and make calls with it (I use profiles to determine which calls I actually want to handle and which I want to automatically forward on to my voice mail), I can text people, I can send and receive e-mail (I used that recently to send an e-mail to my boss to tell him I was running late because my train to work had mechanicals problems). I can access information sites such as train time tables, the news headlines, phone directories and the like. In fact many of the uses of my phone mean I *don't* actually have to talk to people. Finally I use it as a walkman (MP3s).
I hardly ever use a land line. But I'm not being disturbed all the time by my cell phone rining. Because I live a life which means I'm often on the move the phone is an essential way of keeping in touch with my nearest and dearest. I see my cell phone as a social tool. I really can't understand the phobia that many slashdotters (predominently american) have of cell phones.
Which is odd considering a hogs head would either weigh that much or be that big in volume anyway so one wonders where the term came from.
Of course we've ditched funny units now (except for a couple which are for special use due to the general public's intransigence) for the sake of compatability and easy of use.
You're completely right of course. I must be getting old because I had a RISC OS 2.1 machine back in 1989. As for Acorn machines, I got my first one in 1983. My venerable Beeb is 20 years old this year.
Ever heard of RISC OS It's been around for about ten years now. It was used widely in schools (until Blair started getting chummy with a certain Mr Gates) on British designed hardware by Acorn. Now-a-days the Brits contribute a lot to the open source community. Alan Cox and Russell King are two notable personalities.
I for one definitely don't say give me microsoft and probably use more european software than american software. My hardware is mainly Taiwanese, Korean or Japanese except for the SGIs. The US is definitely not the fount of all knowledge and technology.
I try other distros but seem to find myself coming back to Slackware every time. Last weekend I bit the bullet and installed slackware-current which has now become 9-RC1 and I kind of like it. I'm not running servers or anything like that, it's just for my desktop machine. Also I'm finally using KDE after using enlightenment for years. I prefer minimal desktops and the last time I used KDE (early days mind) it was all look and no substance. Now I can configure it to be fairly minimal whilst keeping the usefulness of of an integrated desktop.
So all in all I'm happy with the reinstall. It seems stable and does what it says on the tin.
"Funny thing is, it was still the US doing most of the work. Seemed to end the conflict too, even if it wasn't pretty. Wonder why NATO wasn't invited to go to Afghanistan with us? There's your answer."
We didn't need to send the whole of NATO, just John Simpson of the BBC!
Anyway aren't the US part of NATO. And I know the Brits were definitely there.
You want a T68i and one of these the Ericsson MP3 player. Although it doesn't list the T68i as a compatable phone it works fine. The quality is pretty good and it works well as a hands free kit by pausing the music when you get an incoming call. If you've recorded a voice dial 'word' against a name in the phone book it will even replay that when it gets a recognised caller.
It comes with a 32Mb MM card (standard FAT16 format) and a workable but naff card reader. I've found by using VBR encoding at 64Kbps I get very reasonable quality with a playing time of about 2 hours on a 64Mb card.
Battery life is reduced. I find with using the player for about 3 hours a day (travelling to and from work) together with leaving the phone on all the time and may be and hours calls a day I get two to three days charge out of the battery. Using the 'magic word' voice dial (rather than press button voice dial) cuts that down to about 36 hours.
Er you! To quote
" by Mindjiver (71) Alter Relationship on Tuesday March 04, @02:50PM (#5432611) "
Mindjiver has an *ID* of 71 which *is* really really low.
It must depend upon how you use the phone. I tend to use mine for phoning the same old numbers over and over again so it's "yes", select number, "yes". My most common numbers have been set up for voice dial so it's hold "yes" for a couple of seconds then say name. You can't get simpler or quicker than that.
I'm sad enough that my local food delivery outlet is stored with the word "Pizza". So it's pick up phone, holding "Yes" button as I do, say pizza and voila!
" These combined devices are too big and the battery life typically sucks. I think that you make too many compromises by throwing everything into the same device. I think that it is better to split them up.
The phone should be as small as possible with awesome battery life. Simple email, contact list, and calendar access is a must. I always carry the phone."
You've obviously never seen a T68i. It's about as small as it can be whilst allowing me to actually press the buttons. It will run almost a fornight on standby (ie on but not transmitting phone calls) and even using the clip on MP3 player I generally only have to charge it once a working week.
It has bluetooth and IrDA, uses GSM and GPRS standards and works fine with my PDA both as a modem for internet usage and synching it's phone book and calendar via OBEX.
Erm, exactly what you're on about!
Hence Pascal's belief system.
i) There may or may not be a god
ii) I may or may not believe in him
If I don't believe in him and he exists then I'm in trouble therefore I will believe in him.
Move to a country which actually believes in personal privacy. The US seems to be going in exactly the oposite direction the Europe with respect to the privacy of the individual. There are very strict laws here on what can and can't be done with personal information. This Total Information Awareness Program would be highly illegal over here.
Your sample is skewed. What about the Oaklahoma bomb? Are all Irish people terrorists just because a few are? You are taring hundreds of millions of people due to a very few misguided ones.
"First they came for the communists and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the socialists and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak up for me."
So where do you draw the line?
Hitler had already liberated said artifacts.
It was used for electro-plating items of jewelry and small statues.
You must know by now that a straight comparison of figures on paper is meaningless. An SGI Octane with what, on paper, is a low clock speed trounces all over an equivalent intel machine. Remind me what the main processor of a PS2 is.
I meant GTA3. My other half has been playing Vice City rather a lot lately.
"Technologically it beats the crap out of the PS2 although the game line-up could be better"
Surely game play is the whole point of consoles. It doesn't matter how pretty a game is, how many vertices a console can render, how many channels of sound it has etc etc. In the end it's down to game play. The best of the 8 bit micro games are still very enjoyable and in modern terms they have crap sound and graphics. The PC version of Vice City is prettier than the PS2 version but it's still the same game the extra is just icing on the cake. I bought a PS2 purely because there were more really playable games.