you are soooooooo right. i find nothing to be a greater sign of intelligence than an inability to pronounce long words, a fondness for destroying the environment, the attacking of another nation without provocation, the inability to convince ones own staff to allow you to appear in interviews unless they are scripted, an inability to keep the same verb tense throughout a single statement "Is our children learning", he lectured the japanese about how they have been allies with the US for over a century and a half (one of my personal faves). He was a drunk for half of his life and was also known for his cocaine binges and had below average grades in college. Last year, he was insisting that his tax cuts combined with increased spending would ensure the continuation of a budget surplus. He has stated that he believes that creationism has equal scientific validity as the theories of biological evolution through natural selection.
still think hes so smart? i could write a fucking book on the stupid things that that man has done.
We can thank all the teenaged girls who want to celebrate their "three week anniversary" dating the captain of the football team until he dumps their sorry asses.
actually - i just started college last year and am 18 years of age and I had not bought a single CD until i started dloading music. now i buy 2 or 3 per month. i know many other who do as well. this isnt caused by a bunch of immoral and uncaring teens. it is being caused by the record industry themseves and their greed and the fact that they are selling cds for as much as they are. plus the fact that they are in cahoots with the radio stations who have made concert ticket costs go from 8 bucks per show (that i used to go to) to the same bands now being in the lower 20s for tickets.
this is certainly true with me. I have spent everyday of my life (slight exaggeration - but not by much lol)on computers. Building, programming, and repairing and now I am finding myself unsure of just what it is that i want to do with the rest of my life. All of these reports in bus. 2.0, wired, here on slashdot etc... have just got me to scared to even attempt it. Where there was once an opinion of wealth and respect, there will soon be an image of cheap labor. Id rather turn to some other sort of engineering that will still allow me to work with technology and other fun "geeky" things but with far more security than to continue on my current path towards an uncertain future
with programs like dc++ and mIRC you can still find older shows as long as you are in the right channels. I have the firt 3 seasons of star trek : tos as well as a very large number of lost in space and doctor who. If its been syndicated in the last 5 years - its online.
tournaments, ladders, and the best bnet game ever.
true all fo these things have been in games before but blizzard has perfected them. with a tournament every two days or so - blizzard allows for a truly competitive environment and for an environment that motivates players to get better. They created an integrated clan system that allows for people to form recognizable teams that can also be ranked. Now true, all fo these things have been used before but while many of you scream scam and rip-off - I say that putting all of these good aspects into one IS innovative. The fact that it ALL hasnt been done so well in a game before says something for itself. I don't know about you guys, but while new ideas and and aspects of gameplay are exciting and can often lead to revolutions in the gaming industry, new genres and...well...just plain old better games- I'd prefer to play a perfected version of a previous game than to play a poorly designed/implimented one that has "something new" in it.
WC3 was SUPER hyped as is WoW. I think that while it doesnt exactly help a game to be released late - it sure doesnt hurt. Hell, WC3 is a favorite at any LAN party I've ever been to and Blizzard is one of THE MOST respected makers out there.
Perhaps its just the fact that their games being delayed are known by many in the gaming world to be a clear sign of blizzard's commitment to quality (and no; I do not work for blizzard - just a very satisfied customer) but I think that if a game is hyped - its hyped and true fans of the genre or series will not be detered by a company's attempt to release te best product they can. I for one get only more excited to see such effort put into a product that is meant to relax me - rather than a hastily released one that annoys me with easily fixed bugs and flaws
"In an exclusive interview last week, Mr McBean said that the ICT PC project had brought to Microsoft the reality and scope of the new market that first-time PC users around the world presented, and that the company had then looked at how it could best address this."
heh, sounds like they just got tired of 3rd world countries and/or poorer countries turning to Linux for all of their needs and needed something to counter it. How many stories have we seen on here about South American countries, China, etc...
does anyone remember the indrema? the Linux based game system that got all hyped up and actually had some (albeit a small amount) of third party support......only to flop?
wikipedia is an open source encyclopedia created by the user. all of the information comes from the people who use it so lets say that im there learning about mormons. if they need info on black holes - i can write out and revise my information to fit an encyclopedic (that a word?) format and submit it to help fill the niche. Through everyone conributing information everyone gains and the encyclopedia grows in size, quality and usefullness.
stranger yet, (and if anyone out there knows better - than please do correct me - I DO NOT KNOW JAPANESE) but I heard that its origins were from directly after WWII after we dropped the big bombs and they referred to the bright flash caused by the A-Bombs as pika
and like you, I believe that it is about balance - no I do not think that the state should raise your children - rather that the state should look out for the rights of children. there is in fact a middle ground here as well in that parents do serious harm to their kids if they chose to deny them a chance to prepair for life; which is what they are doing in stunting their sexual, intellectual and social growth through denying their children at least some degree of privacy and freedom to make their own decisions.
again - i apologize for not analyzing your comment in greater detail for its intended meaning
if a president does what they thinks is right, however it affects his constituents badly - they are not in the right are they? ESPECIALLY if they take a hard ass, thick headed bullying stance on it once they know how it makes people feel. Them saying, well until you are the president , dont say anything doesnt change a damn thing. In taking on that responsibility they should have known what they were getting into. Like voters, children dont need to know what is involved in the decision making in order to know how it affects them. An uneducated farmer has every bit the right to complain about policy as does the former president, EXPERIENCE in the field or not. this is their life that you are fucking with NOT YOUR OWN!!
I have a friend whose age 18 and whose parents until this year, when he went away to school, would not allow him to read harry potter books, stay up past 10 o'clock and who would not allow him to go out on weeknights. Please, do forgive me if I'm wrong but this is very hitleresque. certainly not to the level of consentration camps but have you forgotten that there was in fact an original population to Germany who had to do this. (I am of course saying this simply for arguments sake - I wouldnt bother explaining this but you are obvioiusly to dull to take this persons reference to hitler for the lampoonery that it is)
I hated this persons parents for all that they put this child through and would have supported him had he decided to do something about it. It's easy to say such things when looking from an outsiders POV but picture yourself every single night being treated like a 7 yr old prisoner in your own home for 18 years and tell me that you wouldnt feel a similar level of animosity
sometimes people dont WANT to be with other people their age. CHILDREN ARE CRUEL. not to say that adults arent; but where a child could call another child ugly in a room full of their peers and get laughs, an adult would be hard pressed to find such a crowd. I know from personal exp. that there was a reason I stayed online instead of at school dances throughout high school. There was a reason I chose to learn online rather than go out and get drunk, high and STD filled like many others my age and there is a reason I, to this very day, strongly dislike my overprotective parents
I'm 18 and my entire life my parents tried to keep my computer out of my room.
first of all, computers and televisions are very different. cant recall the last time I was mindlessly staring at an IM or post such as this like I would be on a television.
Through the internet I learned how to debate, I learned about computers, I learned about diversity and its importance in our society. (something much more rare in our schools than you may like to think) Through the internet I learned politics, about science, about new music, about movements and about history etc...
but I suppose that I can see your point. I'd much rather my future child become a mindless, unaccepting, ignorant prep/jock to than to give them an invaluable tool for learning with which they can study and interact with others in privacy;)
Until age 18 I was 100% monitored and controled by my parents. This included what books I read, what games I played, where I went and with whom. Now to a point this is acceptable, however most parents who are to afraid to allow their children to use the internet are going to be much to resrictive in other areas. Essentially, I was overprotected and when it came my time to live life, I was unprepaired. It was a damn good thing that I was tech savy enough to slip online at night between 12 and 6 in the morning or else I'd have ended up REALLY screwed up. Raising...no, FORCING your children to make the decisions that you deam to be right does not help them at all. It simply denies them the chance to experience true consequence, reality and human interaction - ALL of which they will need later in life. I'm living testament to this as are my little brother and sister. How do you expect children to be capable of living on their own at age 18 unless you give them the chance to make decisions and learn about life before hand when they ARE under your wing.
As a last note - if you truly must keep them from doing something GIVE A REASON!!!
speaking from a totally sociological point of view - middle class and upper middle class parents teach their children to obey so that they can fit into similar obedient positions in life. BECAUSE I SAY SO and BECAUSE IM THE ADULT, will do them no good in the future.
unless it hurts the childs development and most parents who do not trust their children with the internet do not trust them in other areas either. This leads to a child who when it DOES come to their time to live their life and they jump into the world around them, they are completely unable to cope wioth reality and the world around them. I was sheltered till age 18 when I was thrown into society COMPLETELY unprepaired to live my life. "But parents have a right to raise their children as they see fit"? No, and I'm living proof of it.
growing up in my ultra protestant home, i wasnt allowed to get online in my room so what did i do?
being the geek i am i went ahead and got juno, beware of dog, and a VERY long phone line to get online with very late at night
eventually i was found out and eventually i found ways to get around their restrictions. fact of the matter is - i didnt do anything wrong online. also, since i dont consider this wrong anyway ESPECIALLY for a pubescant boy, I didnt look at porn. Now my little brother has just turned 16 and is under similar restrictions. He has done the same thing as me but has gone even further. He first made a VB program that looked exactly like my parents earthlink logon screen and got on that way for several months. then he got juno and beware of dog like me. then, finally, he was caught, and the computer that he spent all summer saving for is now in the basement. point is - there is nothing on his computer that I cant find, even if he tried , and he has no porn either. the internet is our social outlet and our main source of information outside of our super religious parents. without it, I would not be as well off as I am today, nor would my brother - it is just to bad that we have to pay for it the way that we do. True - while this may be a very small minority - speaking from experience- I can say, the internet is a necessity for children growing up in religious fanatics homes - ESPECIALLY if they live in a rural area away from other people and other points of view. If I had allowed myself to be trapped in by my parents - I'd be another god fearing, video game hating, homophobe like my parents and so many of their church going baptist friends and children
on a last note - I'm planning on letting my little brother use my comp if he needs/wants to while my nazi rents have his under lock and key.
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you are soooooooo right. i find nothing to be a greater sign of intelligence than an inability to pronounce long words, a fondness for destroying the environment, the attacking of another nation without provocation, the inability to convince ones own staff to allow you to appear in interviews unless they are scripted, an inability to keep the same verb tense throughout a single statement "Is our children learning", he lectured the japanese about how they have been allies with the US for over a century and a half (one of my personal faves). He was a drunk for half of his life and was also known for his cocaine binges and had below average grades in college. Last year, he was insisting that his tax cuts combined with increased spending would ensure the continuation of a budget surplus. He has stated that he believes that creationism has equal scientific validity as the theories of biological evolution through natural selection. still think hes so smart? i could write a fucking book on the stupid things that that man has done.
Is somebody bitter?
I don't know where to get certified for that though
the gym
actually - i just started college last year and am 18 years of age and I had not bought a single CD until i started dloading music. now i buy 2 or 3 per month. i know many other who do as well. this isnt caused by a bunch of immoral and uncaring teens. it is being caused by the record industry themseves and their greed and the fact that they are selling cds for as much as they are. plus the fact that they are in cahoots with the radio stations who have made concert ticket costs go from 8 bucks per show (that i used to go to) to the same bands now being in the lower 20s for tickets.
this is certainly true with me. I have spent everyday of my life (slight exaggeration - but not by much lol)on computers. Building, programming, and repairing and now I am finding myself unsure of just what it is that i want to do with the rest of my life. All of these reports in bus. 2.0, wired, here on slashdot etc... have just got me to scared to even attempt it. Where there was once an opinion of wealth and respect, there will soon be an image of cheap labor. Id rather turn to some other sort of engineering that will still allow me to work with technology and other fun "geeky" things but with far more security than to continue on my current path towards an uncertain future
with programs like dc++ and mIRC you can still find older shows as long as you are in the right channels. I have the firt 3 seasons of star trek : tos as well as a very large number of lost in space and doctor who. If its been syndicated in the last 5 years - its online.
what did warcraft 3 give us?
tournaments, ladders, and the best bnet game ever.
true all fo these things have been in games before but blizzard has perfected them. with a tournament every two days or so - blizzard allows for a truly competitive environment and for an environment that motivates players to get better. They created an integrated clan system that allows for people to form recognizable teams that can also be ranked. Now true, all fo these things have been used before but while many of you scream scam and rip-off - I say that putting all of these good aspects into one IS innovative. The fact that it ALL hasnt been done so well in a game before says something for itself. I don't know about you guys, but while new ideas and and aspects of gameplay are exciting and can often lead to revolutions in the gaming industry, new genres and...well...just plain old better games- I'd prefer to play a perfected version of a previous game than to play a poorly designed/implimented one that has "something new" in it.
CS, gunbound, WC3, and fallout forever
WC3 was SUPER hyped as is WoW. I think that while it doesnt exactly help a game to be released late - it sure doesnt hurt. Hell, WC3 is a favorite at any LAN party I've ever been to and Blizzard is one of THE MOST respected makers out there.
Perhaps its just the fact that their games being delayed are known by many in the gaming world to be a clear sign of blizzard's commitment to quality (and no; I do not work for blizzard - just a very satisfied customer) but I think that if a game is hyped - its hyped and true fans of the genre or series will not be detered by a company's attempt to release te best product they can. I for one get only more excited to see such effort put into a product that is meant to relax me - rather than a hastily released one that annoys me with easily fixed bugs and flaws
"In an exclusive interview last week, Mr McBean said that the ICT PC project had brought to Microsoft the reality and scope of the new market that first-time PC users around the world presented, and that the company had then looked at how it could best address this."
heh, sounds like they just got tired of 3rd world countries and/or poorer countries turning to Linux for all of their needs and needed something to counter it. How many stories have we seen on here about South American countries, China, etc...
thanx for the link to microsoft.com lol, like there arent enough out there
i have over 100 gigs of anime. over 50 gigs of feature films and over 20 gigs of star trek episodes and movies.
howd i get em?
download.
theres my reason
does anyone remember the indrema? the Linux based game system that got all hyped up and actually had some (albeit a small amount) of third party support......only to flop?
neway....yea
or in wiki speak - http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia
wikipedia is an open source encyclopedia created by the user. all of the information comes from the people who use it so lets say that im there learning about mormons. if they need info on black holes - i can write out and revise my information to fit an encyclopedic (that a word?) format and submit it to help fill the niche. Through everyone conributing information everyone gains and the encyclopedia grows in size, quality and usefullness.
stranger yet, (and if anyone out there knows better - than please do correct me - I DO NOT KNOW JAPANESE) but I heard that its origins were from directly after WWII after we dropped the big bombs and they referred to the bright flash caused by the A-Bombs as pika
I'm sorry for misinterpretting it.
and like you, I believe that it is about balance - no I do not think that the state should raise your children - rather that the state should look out for the rights of children. there is in fact a middle ground here as well in that parents do serious harm to their kids if they chose to deny them a chance to prepair for life; which is what they are doing in stunting their sexual, intellectual and social growth through denying their children at least some degree of privacy and freedom to make their own decisions.
again - i apologize for not analyzing your comment in greater detail for its intended meaning
excellent response. you have my support
being a parent is no excuse for bad parenting.
if a president does what they thinks is right, however it affects his constituents badly - they are not in the right are they? ESPECIALLY if they take a hard ass, thick headed bullying stance on it once they know how it makes people feel. Them saying, well until you are the president , dont say anything doesnt change a damn thing. In taking on that responsibility they should have known what they were getting into. Like voters, children dont need to know what is involved in the decision making in order to know how it affects them. An uneducated farmer has every bit the right to complain about policy as does the former president, EXPERIENCE in the field or not. this is their life that you are fucking with NOT YOUR OWN!!
I have a friend whose age 18 and whose parents until this year, when he went away to school, would not allow him to read harry potter books, stay up past 10 o'clock and who would not allow him to go out on weeknights. Please, do forgive me if I'm wrong but this is very hitleresque. certainly not to the level of consentration camps but have you forgotten that there was in fact an original population to Germany who had to do this. (I am of course saying this simply for arguments sake - I wouldnt bother explaining this but you are obvioiusly to dull to take this persons reference to hitler for the lampoonery that it is)
I hated this persons parents for all that they put this child through and would have supported him had he decided to do something about it. It's easy to say such things when looking from an outsiders POV but picture yourself every single night being treated like a 7 yr old prisoner in your own home for 18 years and tell me that you wouldnt feel a similar level of animosity
sometimes people dont WANT to be with other people their age. CHILDREN ARE CRUEL. not to say that adults arent; but where a child could call another child ugly in a room full of their peers and get laughs, an adult would be hard pressed to find such a crowd. I know from personal exp. that there was a reason I stayed online instead of at school dances throughout high school. There was a reason I chose to learn online rather than go out and get drunk, high and STD filled like many others my age and there is a reason I, to this very day, strongly dislike my overprotective parents
nope, not kidding and no joke.
;)
I'm 18 and my entire life my parents tried to keep my computer out of my room.
first of all, computers and televisions are very different. cant recall the last time I was mindlessly staring at an IM or post such as this like I would be on a television.
Through the internet I learned how to debate, I learned about computers, I learned about diversity and its importance in our society. (something much more rare in our schools than you may like to think) Through the internet I learned politics, about science, about new music, about movements and about history etc...
but I suppose that I can see your point. I'd much rather my future child become a mindless, unaccepting, ignorant prep/jock to than to give them an invaluable tool for learning with which they can study and interact with others in privacy
I'm a perfect example of the forsaid statements.
Until age 18 I was 100% monitored and controled by my parents. This included what books I read, what games I played, where I went and with whom. Now to a point this is acceptable, however most parents who are to afraid to allow their children to use the internet are going to be much to resrictive in other areas. Essentially, I was overprotected and when it came my time to live life, I was unprepaired. It was a damn good thing that I was tech savy enough to slip online at night between 12 and 6 in the morning or else I'd have ended up REALLY screwed up. Raising...no, FORCING your children to make the decisions that you deam to be right does not help them at all. It simply denies them the chance to experience true consequence, reality and human interaction - ALL of which they will need later in life. I'm living testament to this as are my little brother and sister. How do you expect children to be capable of living on their own at age 18 unless you give them the chance to make decisions and learn about life before hand when they ARE under your wing.
As a last note - if you truly must keep them from doing something GIVE A REASON!!!
speaking from a totally sociological point of view - middle class and upper middle class parents teach their children to obey so that they can fit into similar obedient positions in life. BECAUSE I SAY SO and BECAUSE IM THE ADULT, will do them no good in the future.
unless it hurts the childs development and most parents who do not trust their children with the internet do not trust them in other areas either. This leads to a child who when it DOES come to their time to live their life and they jump into the world around them, they are completely unable to cope wioth reality and the world around them. I was sheltered till age 18 when I was thrown into society COMPLETELY unprepaired to live my life. "But parents have a right to raise their children as they see fit"?
No, and I'm living proof of it.
growing up in my ultra protestant home, i wasnt allowed to get online in my room so what did i do?
being the geek i am i went ahead and got juno, beware of dog, and a VERY long phone line to get online with very late at night
eventually i was found out and eventually i found ways to get around their restrictions. fact of the matter is - i didnt do anything wrong online. also, since i dont consider this wrong anyway ESPECIALLY for a pubescant boy, I didnt look at porn. Now my little brother has just turned 16 and is under similar restrictions. He has done the same thing as me but has gone even further. He first made a VB program that looked exactly like my parents earthlink logon screen and got on that way for several months. then he got juno and beware of dog like me. then, finally, he was caught, and the computer that he spent all summer saving for is now in the basement. point is - there is nothing on his computer that I cant find, even if he tried , and he has no porn either. the internet is our social outlet and our main source of information outside of our super religious parents. without it, I would not be as well off as I am today, nor would my brother - it is just to bad that we have to pay for it the way that we do. True - while this may be a very small minority - speaking from experience- I can say, the internet is a necessity for children growing up in religious fanatics homes - ESPECIALLY if they live in a rural area away from other people and other points of view. If I had allowed myself to be trapped in by my parents - I'd be another god fearing, video game hating, homophobe like my parents and so many of their church going baptist friends and children
on a last note - I'm planning on letting my little brother use my comp if he needs/wants to while my nazi rents have his under lock and key.
heheh, you said proxy attacker