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dncsky1530 writes "The Sydney Morning Herald reports: It babysat generations, distracted countless teenagers from homework and, as Homer Simpson sagely observed about television, became our 'teacher, mother, secret lover'. Sure, the shows may have been ludicrous - think Webster, The A-Team, Charles In Charge - but they became part of our lives nonetheless. So what do you do when they end? Immortalise them online. At least, you do if you're a diehard fan - and there are plenty of them out there. Look up a show, any show, and the odds are there'll be at least one fan site, possibly with a tinny version of the soundtrack playing in the background and certainly with photos galore, plot lines, trivia as well as 'where are they now?' information on the actors."

254 comments

  1. the internet eh? by AssProphet · · Score: 0

    and to think, people used to say the internet was for research!

    David Hasselhoff + Talking car == quality.

  2. I don't watch TV by HappyCitizen · · Score: 0, Troll

    Who is this Homer Simpson you speak of?

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    1. Re:I don't watch TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I watch TV, and he seems to be someone smarter than you are. Certainly less annoying.

      Nobody cares if you don't watch TV; it's one of those "lifestyle choices" that doesn't really affect anything. For instance, I could tell you all about why I don't play Everquest, but I won't pretend for a second that it makes me special.

    2. Re:I don't watch TV by g-to-the-o-to-the-g · · Score: 1

      I hardly watch television, but its naive to deny it's influence on society. I think just about everyone, at some point in their lives, will sit infront of the idiot box. For example, even the diehard tv-haters my become bored when sitting in a lobby, and their attention will be drawn to the television. Or, if you ever go to a restaruant or a pub, you'll probably notice how several sport televisions. I myself hardly watch TV, but I'm willing to admit that if I see the news on, I may watch, or if I'm REALLY bored I might look to see if there is something to watch. (such as the simpsons ;)

    3. Re:I don't watch TV by Basehart · · Score: 4, Funny

      "idiot box"

      I prefer Shit Pump

    4. Re:I don't watch TV by cubicleman · · Score: 1

      I don't watch much TV either..in the last decade, the only shows I've regularly watched have been The Simpsons, The X-Files, The Sopranos, The Wire, Futurama, CSI, and various BBC America Monday night crime dramas...

    5. Re:I don't watch TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      feeling a bit guilty huh?

    6. Re:I don't watch TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well go on, say it! say "yes I'm special, I WATCH TV!!"

  3. This story brings to mind fat, lonely nerds by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Worst story ever.

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    1. Re:This story brings to mind fat, lonely nerds by sandbagger · · Score: 1

      So what. Everyone visit the opsroom.org, please.

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    2. Re:This story brings to mind fat, lonely nerds by System.out.println() · · Score: 0, Redundant

      No shit. What was the news in this? Or the point? How did this even get approved? Who cares? This isn't "News", it's not particularly "for nerds", it doesn't matter.... I would hesitate to even call it "stuff".

    3. Re:This story brings to mind fat, lonely nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This seriously IS the worst story ever.

      "Okay, so like... there are websites on the internet dedicated to just about every stupid sit com ever made... uh... the end".

      What the fuck? What's next, an expose on how there are sites on the internet for just about every band or type of car or actor? Jesus... Captain Fucking Obvious...

    4. Re:This story brings to mind fat, lonely nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHO FUCKING CARES?

  4. What...? by clean_stoner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What exactly is this story supposed to be about? Why is this newsworthy?

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    1. Re:What...? by identity0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Hey, there's a Simpsons quote in it! I've never seen that on Slashdot before, it must be newsworthy!" - michael

    2. Re:What...? by haydon4 · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a living testimony to an entire generation of children with sub-standard social skills.

    3. Re:What...? by general_re · · Score: 2, Funny
      Why is this newsworthy?

      Because someday retro-80's fashions will be what the cool kids are wearing once again. It's just a matter of time, I figure. And then I'm calling my mother and sending her up to the attic for my old clothes, so that all those parachute pants and "Members Only" jackets and Izod shirts can command top dollar on eBay, as actual period garb. Remember, Youth Of Today, when that day comes, demand authenticity! Don't settle for cheap knockoffs of the classic originals!

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    4. Re:What...? by tommertron · · Score: 1
      Wow, an article about obscure fan sites on the Internet? Covering Jump the Shark and fan fiction? Why am I not interested? Maybe because I've seen dozens of articles on TV and the Internet far more in-depth and insightful than this. Not that I have links for them here of course... But seriously, this article is a quick overview of a potentially interesting topic. We need something more in-depth, like you'd find on Salon.

      And plus, it's, like, 60% Australian content.

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    5. Re:What...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but this is not News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters, this is News for Morons, Stuff That's Worthless...

      TV - yeah I watched it, but only after my eyes started bleeding from reading or working on the computer too much...

      Need shut brain down now... TV ON!

    6. Re:What...? by eam · · Score: 1

      I haven't read the article, but the summary leads me to believe I shouldn't.

      Webster, The A-Team, and Charles In Charge did *NOT* become a part of my life.

  5. It's not just for memories and trivia by Savatte · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the popularity and fanaticism of family guy on the web contributed to it getting put back on the air.

    1. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by sinergy · · Score: 1

      Yet it failed for Fururama...

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    2. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Jorkapp · · Score: 1

      Yet it failed for Fururama...
      Bite my shiny metal ass.

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    3. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No, the massive DVD sales did.

    4. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by doormat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, that and selling over 1 Million copies of Family Guy Volume 1 DVD. Almost as much for Volume 2.

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    5. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the popularity and fanaticism of family guy on the web contributed to it getting put back on the air.

      Trust me, that had little to do with it. TV execs don't give a shit if people love the show, they only care if the show is profitable.

      They saw that the Family Guy DVDs were selling like hotcakes, and that it's getting high ratings on Cartoon Network, and realized that they put it out to pasture prematurely when there was still cash to suck from its teat.

    6. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Dufftron+9000 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I keep hearing this and yet all that is on Fox is derivations of people voting people on various contests. Where is the new Family Guy? Is it coming soon or soon(TM)?

    7. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Night+Goat · · Score: 1, Troll

      Horseshit. The popularity of the DVDs did, as so many other wise sages who have replied before me have mentioned. Do you really think TV execs care about people who don't directly contribute to their revenue? They think (and they're right) that Internet users are stealing their shows. They don't give a fuck about what Internet users think about shows, they care about what paying customers think.

    8. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by los+furtive · · Score: 1

      the popularity and fanaticism of family guy on the web contributed to it getting put back on the air.

      Mmmm...counting chickens before they are hatched.

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    9. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't give a fuck about what Internet users think about shows, they care about what paying customers think.

      You're wrong about that. It's questionable to say that the internet fanbase brought back the show but many execs look at the internet as a new medium for market research. The RIAA might be suing people for stealing music but there is no doubt that they are also using as a tool for finding gaging demand. The people on the internet making fan sites are the same people who run out and buy the DVD -- they are the same people who will sit through the advertising on TV to watch the show the night it's broadcast.

    10. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by freeweed · · Score: 1

      They don't give a fuck about what Internet users think about shows, they care about what paying customers think.

      You make it sound like those are mutually exclusive concepts. I assure you, they aren't.

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    11. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Difference being Family Guy is actually funny.

    12. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Tokerat · · Score: 1


      It may not return on Fox, but that is one of the unknown details still being worked out.

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    13. Re:It's not just for memories and trivia by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

      You make it sound like those are mutually exclusive concepts. I assure you, they aren't.
      Obviously not. I didn't think I had to specify that. You and I are both posting to an Internet site about a TV show. There you go. Point is, you can point to a huge internet following, but if nobody's watching the show and the advertisements, there's no reason to have the show exist.

  6. "Good old days." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, and soon we'll look back onto the present round of TV as "The good old days", just as our parents, and theirs before them.

  7. Jump The Shark: Chronicling The Moments When TV Sh by myownkidney · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jump the shark site has info about hundreds and hundreds of TV shows, and the point at which they started going south.

  8. i confess by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Insightful
    i watched tv from the 80s. magnum pi, dukes of hazzard, a-team, et cetera. i liked it. i was young.

    However, watching old reruns on cable, i can't believe how bad some of them were. Magnum PI, stands the test of time (though the fight scenes seem corny), but for the rest, they seem stuck in the past. I've moved on.

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    1. Re:i confess by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you're right, most of them sucked, but Magnum still has it.

  9. Tv show research by Stonan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.tvtome.com/list/all.html

    Very extensive site for tv shows animated or otherwise includes episode lists & guides as well as all people accociated with them.

    It's not my site but one I consult regularly.

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  10. Obligatory quote. by monstroyer · · Score: 4, Funny

    We need the wisdom of Herman's Head now, more than ever.

    - Comic Book Guy.

    1. Re:Obligatory quote. by Gunsmithy · · Score: 1

      Oh, I've wasted my life.

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    2. Re:Obligatory quote. by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Informative

      It took me a second to realize why The Simpsons would reference such a short lived and forgettable sitcom. Then I remembered that both Yeardley Smith and Hank Azaria were on it. It made more sense.

      -B

  11. Just wait a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someday someone will come up with a fansite for Slashdot, remembering when it used to be about news for nerds, stuff that matters.

    1. Re:Just wait a while by ElizabethP · · Score: 1

      Dude. Full House matters. Full House totally matters. If you don't understand that, then I would suggest that you eat some crackers with a big glass of 2% milk and ponder the existence of fish.

  12. One thing I've discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is that most of the TV shows I loved as a kid are best left as fond memories. Trying to watch even one episode of them again as an adult wasn't the enjoyable dose of nostalgia that I expected-- instead I was just sitting there thinking, 'Wow, this is so corny, how did I ever think this was a cool show?' I'm talking about stuff like CHiPs, Knight Rider, The Dukes of Hazzard, etc.

    If "I Love the 80's" has given you the urge to set your TiVo to pick up a few episodes of some show they talked about, trust me-- ignore that urge.

    1. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a bit older, but I felt that same way when I watched "speed racer" on the cartoon network. I loved it as a child, but I can't even sit through one episode as an adult.

    2. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Myopic · · Score: 1

      amen, brother. doubly so with cartoons.

    3. Re:One thing I've discovered... by ArmorFiend · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That, my young apprentice, is why they created the concept of a "remake". Take the example of Battlestar Galactica - Old: boring, fights almost never happen, silly robots. New: Fights happen every 3 seconds. Robots now look like foxy women -- and they're incredibly horny. Changing tastes for changing demographics.... :)

    4. Re:One thing I've discovered... by rthille · · Score: 1

      Best example I had of this was watching 'Flash Gordon' the second time. The first time, when I was nine or whatever, it was amazing. The second time I was so embarassed that I told my friends it was good!

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    5. Re:One thing I've discovered... by tunabomber · · Score: 1

      ...is that most of the TV shows I loved as a kid are best left as fond memories.

      Well, I was thinking that they'd be better left as Ate My Balls websites, but sure, memories would work too... Whatever floats your boat.

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    6. Re:One thing I've discovered... by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      Yup, I watched all those shows plus BJ and the Bear, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, and Simon & Simon. Same corny reaction when I see the reruns. The only shows that really hold up well are Three's Company (farce sitcoms follow the same formula even today) and Magnum P.I.

    7. Re:One thing I've discovered... by aonifer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but the A-Team is still awesome.

      The Dukes of Hazzard, though. Wow, I feel shame for ever liking that show.

    8. Re:One thing I've discovered... by MikeHunt69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed. Just don't let the Starwars fans know this, otherwise they won't be able to keep blaming Lucas for ep1-3..

    9. Re:One thing I've discovered... by master_p · · Score: 1

      But some of the old shows are real classics.

      For example, Dr Who (that's why they are about to ressurrect it).

      Or Galactica.

      Or Ulysses 3001(a fantastic japanese/french anim about the adventures of Ulysses projected in the year 3001 in a space setting).

      Or Space Battleship Yamato (if you love space operas, this is THE definition of space opera; and the best example of story and character development).

      Or The Simsons (it's not so old, but we are in the middle of the 00'ties...next decade is close, where the 90's will become fashion!!!).

      Not everything old is bad and cheesy. You should consider the entertainment value of each old show. So what if physics are inconsistent ? it is just entertainment.

    10. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Badfysh · · Score: 1

      But they were good shows - at the time... it's good to see that audiences have grown more sophisticated, which makes these old shows seem much worse than they really were when first aired.

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    11. Re:One thing I've discovered... by spike1 · · Score: 1

      Agreed... Others that've stood the test of time due to good writing (and sometimes good acting) :), despite the incredibly crappy special effects and terrible 70s fashion are... The Tomorrow People (original, not the 90s remake) Blake's 7

    12. Re:One thing I've discovered... by evil+crash · · Score: 2, Insightful

      two words: Daisy Duke

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    13. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > is that most of the TV shows I loved as a kid
      > are best left as fond memories.

      Well, allow me to disagree. I'm an adult and
      I love those old T.V. shows from the 50's, 60's
      and 70's (I was born in '62). Yesterday, on the
      Hallmark channel, I watched McMillan and Wife,
      Banacek, and Kojak. I always try and catch the
      FBI on Good Life TV, and of course, The Andy
      Griffith Show on TV-Land. I could go on and on
      about all the wonderful old T.V. shows that I
      get enjoyment out of. I just wish the was a way
      to bring more of these shows and movies to the
      public.

      BTW, has anyone noticed lately how difficult it
      is to find any sci-fi and monster movies from the
      50s-70s on T.V. anymore? Occassionally I find
      one but not often. And, what's up with SciFi
      channel? They almost never show anything made
      before the late 90s. Yes, I know, the Twilight
      Zone marathons on New Year's day (applause!),
      but aside from that they almost never show any
      of the old stuff.

      If it weren't for the old stuff, I probably
      wouldn't watch much T.V. at all. I'm simply
      not interested in what contemporary pop culture
      has to offer me.

    14. Re:One thing I've discovered... by operagost · · Score: 1
      Space Battleship Yamato
      Isn't that AKA "Star Blazers"? I hate when they have multiple names via translation. Like "Battle of the Planets" is also "Eagle Riders" and what is probably the original Japanese "Gatchaman".
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    15. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard to justify cheesiness with eye-candy when there's so much free porn available on the internet now.

    16. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Don+Tworry · · Score: 1
      The exact same thing happened to me when I watched "Welcome Back Kotter" about 20 years after seeing it as a kid. Those guys were some really bad actors. And how could anyone think they were young enough to be in high school?

      And speaking of high school shows, what was the name of that show that had Howard Hessman (goog ol' Johnny Fever from WKRP-which does not belong in this category)as a teacher in New York for a bunch of gifted teenagers? That one stunk pretty bad too.

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    17. Re:One thing I've discovered... by phoneboy · · Score: 1

      The last time I remember seeing the A-Team was when I was in Germany, and the show had a German overdub. The nice thing was I didn't need the words to understand what was going on.

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    18. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Head of the class.

    19. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Deagol · · Score: 1
      I have to disagree with you and the parent post. I just completed the entire original Battlestar Galactica on DVD via Netflix, and while I admit it shows its age, it was a fun experience for the entire family.

      I'm 31, so when it made its run in 1978, I was 6 years old. Yeah, the effects are a little on the weak side, but taking its age into account the show still holds its own (IMO). My wife, being 4 years younger than me, never saw the original run or the reruns, but she liked it a lot. My kids, 5 and 8, who have grown up on Pixar animation, and CG blockbusters, also loved it.

      There's also the value of historical context. A plot device of the final episode of BG has them picking up ghost transmissions of Earth's lunar landing. My kids didn't know the significance of those sounds and images, so we educated them. That whole Terra / Eastern Alliance thing smacked of WWII Nazism and Cold War Era politics. Granted that plot arc was a major low point in the show, but it certainly gave some insight into American mindset in 1978.

      And since we live in Utah, while not LDS, we caught the obvious Mormon references (the producer -- or was it writer -- was LDS, I believe).

      And as far as the "silly robots" comment goes... WTF?!? Let's let alien races be alien races. While I enjoy my "Star Trek: TNG" on DVD, it still annoys me that 98% of all alien races are humanoids with cosmetic differences in skin color and head/facial geometry. At least "Space: Above and Beyond" had that part right. :)

      And while I'm at it, here's a mini-survey for those of you who remember BG in any detail: Were Hector and Vector more annoying than ewocks or Jar Jar Binks? ;-)

      After having my childhood memory robbed blind by Jim Carey in "The Grinch", I say let's have original programming -- or reruns -- rather than these bloody remakes. I can watch the originals and enjoy them -- I rarely can make the same statement about remakes.

      And as for the more general concept of keeping shelved TV shows alive, I say keep it up. I'm anxiously awaiting the DVD release of "Millenium" (supposedly due out this year). If they ever get the 2nd season of "Twin Peaks" onto DVD, I'll be buying that series, too.

      As it stands, there's enough good TV on DVD now that I don't plan on ever receiving TV broadcasts again, even for free. Complete series runs on DVD is the future of my TV habits (that, and some movies). Time shifting doesn't get any better than being able to watch an entire show sequentially and whenever you want to watch it.

    20. Re:One thing I've discovered... by ronfar · · Score: 1
      But they were good shows - at the time... it's good to see that audiences have grown more sophisticated
      more sophisticated than The Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock Presents or Mercury Theater?
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    21. Re:One thing I've discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > it's good to see that audiences have grown more
      > sophisticated...

      I think sophisticated is the wrong word. I'd
      say degenerate is probably more accurate.

    22. Re:One thing I've discovered... by evil+crash · · Score: 1

      but it wasn't availible then

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  13. um nice example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    '"Full House still lives in the hearts of many and, therefore, the show will live forever. As long as there are people who like the show, they will keep it alive in their hearts and in their thoughts and that's why I started Full House Forever."'

    jesus christ someone actually liked full house? are they blind and just read the scripts in brail or something? even bob saget had to admit he "sucked dick for coke" because of what the show did to him..

    sad.
    1. Re:um nice example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone actually liked full house? are they blind

      Hey, the Oslen Twins were pretty hot, at least until they reached puberty.

      (-Yes, that's a joke, you pervs.-)

    2. Re:um nice example by ElizabethP · · Score: 1
      But didn't you love those tear-jerker scenes in which good ol' Dad boosted his daughter's self esteem to a soundtrack of a heartfelt violin, soon joined by the rest of the orchestra, culminating in a big hug. I wished my family could have been that functional.

      Plus, Jesse was just like, so hot, yeah?

  14. ITVDB? by Cat9117600 · · Score: 1

    Is there an IMDB type site for TV yet? That would be a lot better than trying to find that "one fan site" for the old obscure show that you, and only you, loved. It would have to be tons bigger than IMDB, though.

    1. Re:ITVDB? by doormat · · Score: 4, Informative
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  15. Alternate article title by nametaken · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...why the internet should be destroyed.

  16. Truman Show by fembots · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To answer the question "So what do you do when they end", one only needs to look at the ending of Truman Show.

    People just find the remote and switch channel.

    Funny enough though, Truman Show itself has plenty of fan sites immortalizing the show.

  17. Jump the shark by challahc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm just waiting for jump the shark for websites. Then there can be retro fan sites about retro-tv sites. "Remember that A-team site..."

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    1. Re:Jump the shark by dmaxwell · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm just waiting for jump the shark for websites.

      "Remember that funny website all the tech nerds used to hang out on? I think it was DotSlash or Slashthroat or something like that........"

      "Yeah it really JTSed when they started moderating trolls down. The trolls were the only good part of the site....."

    2. Re:Jump the shark by doc_traig · · Score: 2, Funny


      Slashdot jumped the shark when we started seeing the OSDN Personals ads.

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    3. Re:Jump the shark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. jtsed when AC posts became irrelevant because of "subscriber level 1 automatic moderation" plus "default level 1 threshold".

      Most people simply don't read ACs anymore.

  18. thank you Mister Rogers and Gi joe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure, I spent my early years watching Mister Rogers and Gi Joe. Then came Webster, the A-Team and Dukes of Hazard. Then came Gi joe and Transformers. Then came Duck Tales and Saved by the bell. Then came Porn and the Screensavers on Tech TV. Thank you for making me so messed up.

    1. Re:thank you Mister Rogers and Gi joe by dmaxwell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cartoon Network was playing GI Joe late Saturday nights for awhile. I remember thinking it was kinda corny but still fun as a kid. The "still fun" must have worn off somewhere in the last 15 years. It was just incredibly bad.

      I came across a site with Transformers episodes once. I was able to watch a few of those. I liked Transformers a bit better that GI joe as kid..might have had something to do with it. I loved the way Transformers could ravage several conservation laws at least 20 times an episode. Optimus must have a pocket dimension or something that he kept his trailer part in when he was a robot. For that matter, where did Omega Supreme keep his friggen body when he was robot? Then we have Astrotrain carrying around several Decepticons the same size he is in shuttle form, with scads of personal space for each one I might add. Come to think of it, damn near every action cartoon is incredibly bad. I still think Transformers is the king of implausible topology.

    2. Re:thank you Mister Rogers and Gi joe by Myopic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      off topic: Fred Rogers had a requiem written for him, released in February. He went to my college, too, and spoke at my graduation.

    3. Re:thank you Mister Rogers and Gi joe by PacoTaco · · Score: 1

      The thing I remember most about GI Joe is that no one ever died, despite the constant combat. Even at the time I thought it was the wrong message to send children. (I guess streets full of dead civilians makes for poor Saturday morning entertainment.)

    4. Re:thank you Mister Rogers and Gi joe by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1

      Stormtrooper Syndrome, I think it's called. Shite - 1 team of highly trained military, the other team is highly trained terrorists, and *neither* can hit the broadside of a barn.

  19. So. . .what? by Limburgher · · Score: 1
    Was I supposed to post a link to my Gilmore Girls fan site?

    Methinks someone's waxing misty over the end of Friends.

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    1. Re:So. . .what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mmmmmmmm........ Lauren Graham......
      *sound homer simpson makes about food*
      yummy..

      Almost as yummy as Alyssa Milano, Rose McGowan, or Eliza Dushku....

      What were we talking about?

  20. Retro Mental Images by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 4, Funny

    One day, at a science fiction con, I was glancing across one of those large tables full of videotapes of, shall we say, dubious provenance, when I noticed, at the left edge of a box full of old TV shows, a tape labelled "AIR WOLF / THE A-TEAM".

    I'm somewhat ashamed to say that my initial thought was, "That has got to be the worst bit of slash ever written."

  21. A-Team rocked! by tylernt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ludicrous?! A-team was a darn sight better than the crap on TV today. Young whippersnappers... Why, when I was your age we were lucky to have a color TV!

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    1. Re:A-Team rocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget under 30 channels.... dare I say less than 10?!

    2. Re:A-Team rocked! by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      I don't know of anyone, assuming we are talking 1980-1985 (too lazy to look up when a-team aired) who didn't own a color tv. I have to admit, I had a drug store $99 B&W for my room at the time, which I used for saturday morning cartoons and such. While B&W TVs were still sold, they seemed more common in the sub 14inch size.

      I don't remember A-team being that remarkable, only the fact that Mr. T seemed to gain popularity for some odd reason... and continue to spy him on 1010-987 comercials.

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    3. Re:A-Team rocked! by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Funny

      I remember once getting bored and channel surfing. This was before the days of remote controls, so I surfed the old fashioned way by turning the dial.

      Anyway, I stumbled across this bouncer competition. It's not every day that you get to see a televised competition of big ugly dudes hoisting drunks out the saloon door. I can't remember if this was the nationals or internationals. Anyway, this especially ugly dude named "Mr. T" won.

      That was his fifteen minutes of fame. But that was too short for him, so he stretched that fifteen minutes into half a decade. First he fights Sylvester Stallone in Rocky. Very cheesy. I was thinking, "Hey, your fifteen minutes are over!" Then he shows up on A-Team. Come on! This guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag!

      His career finally stuttered, stalled, and crashed into Florida swampland after a particularly atrocious Barbara Walters interview.

      Epilogue: I thought the ghost of Mr. T had been laid to rest. But I was wrong. An CS professor with a bad sense of humour was describing an algorithm to my class, when he suddenly jabbed his pointer at the chalkboard, right at a meta-variable, and loudly announced: "I pity da foo!"

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    4. Re:A-Team rocked! by genner · · Score: 1

      Sigh he's still not dead. Doing commericals for title loans. Also made it onto Conan late night show where he claimed he had his catch phrase copyrighted. Given how hard up he is for cash it's only a mater time before your CS Prof gets sued.

    5. Re:A-Team rocked! by BillX · · Score: 1

      I thought the ghost of Mr. T had been laid to rest. But I was wrong.

      Sadly, you have no idea how wrong. Mr. T has been recently spotted doing cheesy commercials for "Illinois Title Loans, Inc.", a company that lets one take out a loan by handing over their car title as collateral. At one point in the advert, he is actually heard to say, "I pity da foo' who doesn't call Illinois Title Loans!".

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  22. Ah..... back in the days.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When TV actually had scripts & people that did acting for a living. None of this lame deserted on an island with people whom you have to team up with, then betray dittohead crap.

    It's all about the quality of shows. Even if if a few of us didn't like them, you have to admit that TV back then was worth watching.

  23. TV or not TV by howhardcanitbetocrea · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't had a TV for almost 20 years...have I missed anything?

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    1. Re:TV or not TV by stox · · Score: 1

      Not a thing.

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    2. Re:TV or not TV by beerits · · Score: 1

      Nice to meet you Mr Green. :)

    3. Re:TV or not TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only The Simpsons.

    4. Re:TV or not TV by falzer · · Score: 1

      You missed mathnet.

    5. Re:TV or not TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't had a TV for almost 20 years...have I missed anything?

      Science Fiction : Babylon Five, Comedy : South Park, Pretty girls : Charmed, Reality : the gulf Wars LIVE.

    6. Re:TV or not TV by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 1

      Oh yes You have missed seeing Michael Jackson's Sister's Right Boob on live Telly.

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  24. Re:Jump The Shark: Chronicling The Moments When TV by quantax · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who don't know, 'Jumping the Shark' is a reference to an episode in 'Happy Days' in which at the end of the show, the fonze is shown trying to water-ski a jump over a pool of sharks, in order to get more people to watch the following weeks episode which will show if he makes it. A reference to a show 'jumping the shark' means that whatever made that show unique and watchable is gone/going and thus the show must resort to gimmicks to keep it interesting.

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  25. jeesh by HappyCitizen · · Score: 1

    YOu guys really can't take a joke. Of course I know who Homer is and I watch TV

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    1. Re:jeesh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your joke is less funny than a GNAA party when they run out of KY jelly

      GNNA SUCKS BALLS

  26. Thundercats outtakes by Operating+Thetan · · Score: 1

    For the 5 people in existence who haven't heard them, they're here

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    1. Re:Thundercats outtakes by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 1

      April Winchell also has Thundercats outtakes (presumably the same ones) on her web site, although they're all rolled into one big MP3 file.

      But do try the main link -- that way you can browse the rest of her collection of oddities.

  27. it doesnt'? by crabpeople · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    um IMDB *does* do tv shows. thats why you can search for knight rider, star trek, or the family guy and have it return results. i know you were just trying for an early post, because thats what gets you free karma but um.. try a bit harder mmmkay

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  28. Re:Jump The Shark: Chronicling The Moments When TV by amigoro · · Score: 1
    Simpson's will jump the shark when:
    "ONCE EVERY CELEBRITY IN THE UNIVERSE MADE A GUEST APPEARANCE."
    according to this comment

    P.S. And if the new planet is teeming with intelligent life, have can you call it earth like????

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  29. Simpsons! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snpp.com Very extensive information on the Simpsons, reviews, ratings, transcripts, and any other information you could care to know about the show. Interesting to read the "did you notice?" part for each episode. Lots of information, and even info about episodes to come.

  30. Well Duh! by nfras · · Score: 1

    I read the article and thought, we know, we're nerds and fanboys. Maybe tomorrow we'll get a story posted about how some people have sort of online diaries that other people read and sometimes attract loads of readers, or that recently some dirty pictures have started appearing on the "Information Super Highway".

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  31. Damn good thing by Spytap · · Score: 3, Funny

    Damn good thing this story was put on the front page of /. otherwise i would have never known about this "internet" that you speak of.
    Man, so much more to this world than I ever knew ;)

  32. I pity the fool by doormat · · Score: 5, Funny

    who posted this story....

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    If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
    1. Re:I pity the fool by kfg · · Score: 1

      That's "foo," foo.

      KFG

  33. What was that website we used to visit? by paiute · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Hey, remember surfing over to Slash.... what was that place.... oh, yeah, Slashdot, that's it.

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  34. USA by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

    Commander USA's Groovy Movies (IMDB) was a favorite, I remember seeing the crappy B movie that got made into Little Shop of Horrors.. another favorite was Higgins Boys and Gruber

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  35. Another good site for cancelled comedies/toons by wynterwynd · · Score: 5, Informative

    One site they forgot to mention was Digital Archive Project. They use a P2P community for the legal trading of cancelled shows. They're very good about removing things that go to video or are otherwise re-sold. It's kinda nice to see someone using P2P for something legal and worthwhile. Lots of animated series, comedy shows, and sci-fi/fantasy series. (the. Worth a click.

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    1. Re:Another good site for cancelled comedies/toons by Milkyman · · Score: 2, Informative

      another site worth looking at for nostalgia is X-Entertainment.com. When I first discovered this site I spent hours reading the articles about all the crap i had/watched when I was a kid.

    2. Re:Another good site for cancelled comedies/toons by SPK · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nice site and such, but I would hesitate to call it "legal trading" (of cancelled shows or whatever). Somebody *still* owns the copyrights on those shows, and just because they're not selling DVDs on Amazon.com does not mean it is legal to trade them online or elsewhere -- it's just that, to a certain extent, the owners of the copyright (and/or distribution rights) don't care enough to go after folks.

      There's a difference between 'legal' and 'low probability of legal difficulties'.

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  36. I used to watch this sci-fi/space show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Called "Star Trek." I don't know if anyone else remembers it. Anyway, I was bored one day, and I did some searching on Google, and amazingly, there was a website for it! I was shocked... someone out there enjoyed the adventures of Captain Kirk and the Enterprise as much as I did!

    1. Re:I used to watch this sci-fi/space show by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      It's kinda funny as when I first read this, I thought you were refering to the Animated series, which actually wasn't too bad as they pretty much took decent short stories and re-wrote them for the star trek universe.

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  37. Bad 80s is much better than bad 2000s by chia_monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ya know, you sit back and watch reruns of "A-Team", "Knight Rider", "Greatest American Hero", etc (only when you're sick in bed, of course...) and go "holy crap, how in the hell did I watch this?" You laugh as bullets go flying everywhere and miss people, but cars explode. Or when you see the hood of the General Lee (Dukes of Hazzard for you kids that don't know) get crumpled to all hell from jumping over a dirt pile (huh?) but then it's all fixed as they speed down the road. I sure get a good laugh.

    BUT...in 20 years when people look back at OUR shows, they're gonna think we're a bunch of morons. Ohhhhh..."American Idol" is amazing! Or today's "reality" shows like "I Married a 7'3" Midget" and such. THAT'S going to be scary...looking back at today's stuff. Egads...

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    1. Re:Bad 80s is much better than bad 2000s by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

      The thing is, these shows from the 80s that you speak of weren't bad for their time. A-Team and Knight Rider kicked ass, and lots of people watched them.
      Reality shows won't be the ones being re-run in the future, shows like Friends, X-Files, Seinfeld will be. Shows that people might be interested in 20 years down the road.

    2. Re:Bad 80s is much better than bad 2000s by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      these shows from the 80s that you speak of weren't bad for their time. A-Team and Knight Rider kicked ass, and lots of people watched them

      No, they were pretty bad for their time period. The only reason people watched them was

      1. There was nothing better on
      2. Everyone didn't have cable to find something better.

      Knight Rider, a show who's ad campain said to dial some 800 number inder to get details why the KI3000 is better then the Dukes of Hazzard car. What's worse is this marketing attempt has been sited as a good use for an 800 number.

      I'll give you Friends... that ranks up there in three's company in my book, popular enough to have a few spinoffs, and likely to be shown just for it's cheeze value.

      X-files, while I didn't typicaly watch it, had some some decent writing.

      Seinfeld is harder to judge, but I rank it much higher then a-team, air wolf, or knight rider.

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    3. Re:Bad 80s is much better than bad 2000s by wibs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We can learn a valuable lesson from this, and that is...

      TV sucks.

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    4. Re:Bad 80s is much better than bad 2000s by genner · · Score: 1

      If you think thats scary wait until you see the junk they'll come out with in 20 years.

  38. Buy Transformers DVD by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    There is no show in the 80s better than Transformers. Many shows were good, but this was by far the most original.

    Not to mention this is the only show where guns really do damage. For example, nobody can hit a target in GIJOE. When the autobots fire a laser beam, decepticons really get it up the ass.

    1. Re:Buy Transformers DVD by prockcore · · Score: 1

      There is no show in the 80s better than Transformers.

      Sounds like a challenge! Hmm... my favorite 80s tv show is still The Misfits of Science.

    2. Re:Buy Transformers DVD by dmaxwell · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When the autobots fire a laser beam, decepticons really get it up the ass.

      It still severely lacked in the fatality department. The Autobots and Decepticons must have been piloting non-lethal weaponry for UN peacekeepers. If it was really necessary for the plot, someone would be knocked down with a smoking hole in him until the next scene. Otherwise the consequences were "Hey! That really scorched my paint!" or something.

      The movie had some fatality it but only characters from the old line of toys bought it in the first twenty minutes. I think the idea was you were supposed to throw your dead Transformers in the trash and go buy some new ones. Well, Starscream died a bit later but they trot his ghost back out in afternoon programming so you could go buy Starscream again.

    3. Re:Buy Transformers DVD by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      Heh. I wrote a fairly complete Misfits of Science website - it's still sitting on my hard drive. I really need to nab a domain and toss it up online. Character, episode, actor synopsi, pretty typical fan site. It was a short lived show, so it's pretty easy to run through the whole thing.

      I still love the Indiana Jones/Big City interleave opening of one ep. Some really great stuff, pretty uneven but typical of 80s shows.

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    4. Re:Buy Transformers DVD by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      As it was once pointed out, in GI Joe, a soldier standinging still in the middle of an empty field was neigh invulnerable, but if you're in any sort of vehicle, you're getting shot down. Still, you can bail out faster than the explosion can touch you.

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  39. TV sucks lives...Millions and counting... by Bl33d4merican · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We live in a world where some people are literally obsessed with TV (Probably a fair deal of \.ers. People actually go home on Friday nights to make sure they catch the new episode of whatever. It's really sad when a website dedicated to saving the TV show Angel (http://www.renewangel.com/) is considered a charity! Maybe it is a great show (try not to laugh...) but honestly...that money could be used to...I don't know...fight cancer?

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    1. Re:TV sucks lives...Millions and counting... by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 1
      Probably a fair deal of \.ers

      backslashdot.org: News for NT Nerds. Stuff that...

      Oh. Nevermind.

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  40. I thank adult swim for introducing me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How did I manage to miss all of Family Guy during its first run? Was it the disturbing chin visualization that turned me off? Was it my prejudice against cheap tricks like talking dogs AND babies? Since the reruns I learned to love Family Guy for the very first time and find Stewie and Brian to be my favorite characters (along with that creepy old man)

    1. Re:I thank adult swim for introducing me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were too young to enjoy the jokes, a lot of kids weren't able to understand the dick and fart joke humor till college, and now walla (FUK YOU BITCHES FOR CORRECTING ME) its like something people found out all over again.

  41. A-Team rocked!-The Edsel Family. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Young whippersnappers... Why, when I was your age we were lucky to have a color TV!"

    Back in your day, everything was handcranked...even grandma.

  42. I put it to you /. readers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it matter if shows go off the air? Does it matter if there are coutless fan sites put up by people trying to hold onto some insignificant part of their past in order to keep feeling young? Are TV shows just pale mirror images of those that came before or is there true innovation?
    I guess the biggest question I put to you is this.
    Have TV shows become a reflection of society or has society become a reflection of TV shows? Who is to blame for the crap in there and the crap out here?

  43. This is a great topic by bennomatic · · Score: 1
    Just last night, my girlfriend asked me what my name would have been if I could have chosen it. Without a pause, I answered, "Steve Austin."

    Really, what else would it be?

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    1. Re:This is a great topic by jkubecki · · Score: 2, Funny
      Really, what else would it be?

      Max Power?

  44. Land of the lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Recently saw cable reruns of Land of Lost which was quite an influential show from my childhood. I was worried the cheesy production values would betray my found memories, but I've since developed a crushing addiction to copious amounts of hydroponics, and found the special effects really held up quite nicely after all those years.

  45. Meow TV by Mad+Man · · Score: 1

    When is Meow TV (the complete series) coming out on DVD?

  46. Some things are better left lost, like GAH by zakezuke · · Score: 1

    I remember as a child, I did enjoy watching The Greatest American Hero. Thanks to P2P file sharing systems, I was able to watch the entire series including The Greatest American Heroine... and I fear I lost a few brain cells.

    It's nice to know my TV wasn't screw nor am I nuts for thinking they mispelt Hinkley on the blackboard in the 2nd season, and the fact that they seemed to add in some car noise when ever they were about to say "Hinkley" rather then "Hankley. It gives me some comfort that my memory was correct, but I really had to force my self to continue watching this particular brand of cheese in the hopes of getting some enjoyment out of it. I failed.

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    1. Re:Some things are better left lost, like GAH by mike3k · · Score: 1

      After a man named Hinkley attempted to assasinate president Reagan, they changed his name to "Hanley" because they didn't want to be associated with him. For a while they simply called him Mr. H.

    2. Re:Some things are better left lost, like GAH by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      After a man named Hinkley attempted to assasinate president Reagan, they changed his name to "Hanley" because they didn't want to be associated with him. For a while they simply called him Mr. H.

      I've read that.. not matching 100% with my memory though.

      I believe that the students, in particular the Tony fellow, just called him Mr. H independent of the Reagan attempted assasination. I believe also that season 2 was already filmed, or mostly filmed before these events caused concern among the network, hince the poor editing of any reference to "Hinkley" or poorly dubbed "Hankley".

      It's hard for me to be sure, as i'm going by one vague net reference which would agree with you to some extent, and watching the series recently. I'm familar with that explanation though, which just adds to the cheesy factor of the series. What you said was mostly correct, just the choice caused them to retro fit some of the episodes shown on tv.

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    3. Re:Some things are better left lost, like GAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's been 24 years since I saw that show and I still have that stupid theme song lodged in my brain somewhere... Likewise sendmail.cf format, the int 21h function codes, bootp packet formats, the win32 api, the cisco abyte_t api, and other bits of computer trivia I hope to never need again.

      Of my valueless knowledge I get the most use out of the GAH theme. Humming or whistling it has caused people to start laughing and end an over schedule friday meeting twice now, just have to be careful not to overuse my power.

  47. good shows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anyone remeber Chris whatshisname's Get a Life? funny show.

    Herman's Head? weird show.

    tv has had some really off the chart attempts at comedy. remember that show from the 80s with the robotic girl? oh wow, creepy!@#!$

    1. Re:good shows... by LighthouseJ · · Score: 1

      You mean Chris Elliot's show Get A Life (1990)?
      The show about the robotic girl was called Small Wonder (1985).

  48. In Soviet Russia... by hankaholic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This seems like the perfect time to mention the fact that under original copyright law, the television shows you remembered watching as a child would fall under the public domain at some point in your lifetime.

    Music, television shows, movies -- all these are stolen from the public by excessive copyright terms. Copyright was supposed to encourage "content developers" to share the fruits of their labors so that the public could benefit from (and eventually take ownership of) their works.

    Lately I keep thinking of a short bit of an Arthur C. Clark's "2061: Odyssey Three" in which Haywood Floyd remembers a bit of an old tune and considers asking his computer to help him to find the actual song. It strikes me as quite sad that because we seem to have forgotten the benefits of copyright expiration, it's likely that whatever old tunes I try to remember in 2061 will probably still be controlled as tightly as possible by the recording industry.

    I feel like the media industries beat me up and stole my lunch money.

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  49. My favorite TV Show fansite... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...was for The Adventures of Li'l Bill & Hill and Friends. The best Saturday Morning Cartoon that ever wasn't.

  50. A-Team ludicrous? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

    Better not be callin' Mr. T. ludicrous, fool!

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  51. Retro Mental Images-Airwolf. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stepping out of the dark for a moment this is proably the best Airwolf soundtrack out there. Try the samples and you'll see.

  52. I learned I could see color on a B&W TV from A by MajorDick · · Score: 1

    Anyone else ever notice if you watched A LOT, as in mostly/only B&W TV you could learn to differentiate colors ? I will never forget the very first A-Team , maybe it was the pilot, Murdock was flying around in his Biplane, the interesting thing is I only had a B&W TV the next day at school a friend who knew I had a B&W in my room said hey chris what color was the plane ? Red I replie, how the hell did you know that he asked, uhhh I donno, so I started intentionally watching for this phenomena, 9 times out of 10 I could tell the color of something accuratley on a B&W TV. wierd......

  53. Who can forget "Riptide"? by cr0sh · · Score: 2
    Hey, alongside Magnum P.I. and Miami Vice - what about "Riptide" for old 80's TV?

    Riptide Fan Page

    From the site:

    Welcome aboard the Riptide, home of the world-famous Riptide Detective Agency. Meet, from left to right, Murray Bozinsky, computer expert, inventer of the Roboz, Nick Ryder, pilot of the Screaming Mimi, an old Sikorsky helicopter with a big smile on its 'face', and Cody Allen, owner of the Riptide.

    Sadly, this seems to be one of the few (or only?) Riptide fan sites around - most people don't even remember this series (it only lasted a few seasons, IIRC)...

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    1. Re:Who can forget "Riptide"? by tylernt · · Score: 1

      Man, I forgot about Riptide. But better still was the Misfits of Science ... "Johnny B" the dude who could shoot bolts of lightning from his fists was soooo cool!

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    2. Re:Who can forget "Riptide"? by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

      "Man, I forgot about Riptide. But better still was the Misfits of Science ... "Johnny B" the dude who could shoot bolts of lightning from his fists was soooo cool!"

      What about "Whiz Kids" that aired on CBS for a short time? The redhead wound up on "ALF" after that...man, what those kids could do on early 80s 8-bit computers not saddled with the bloatware from Redmond! :0

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    3. Re:Who can forget "Riptide"? by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      The only thing that made it remotely watchable was the "you know what I mean Vern" guy hatch a new get rich quick scheme every week. One week he was going to separate gold from seawater by putting a plugged in toaster into it. Crazy shit.

      I can't believe I remembered that.

  54. Whiz Kids? by jheinen · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember Whiz kids? It lasted only one season but was the first television show to present geeks as a role model.

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    1. Re:Whiz Kids? by British · · Score: 1

      Yes, I remember that show, and ended caling up WCCO(our affiliate) to ask why it wasn't on. I ended up talking to a security guard who couldn't help.

      I would kill for episodes of that show to see again. I would be in early 80s heaven. That's my drug.

    2. Re:Whiz Kids? by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      Whiz kids I remember... specificly I remember the reporter or whatnot had a laptop which he jacked into the handset line of a standard telephone, rather then the wall line. It seemed odd to me, but the Tandy 300 I believe had an acustic coupler attachment which might have permited you to do just that. It's hard to say.

      I also remember the relationship between the lead geek and the younger sister, and how she always tried to get him into trouble, yet he always took accountability for anytime she did wrong. Most interesting as my household blame was handed over from oldest to youngest... he did it, she did it, he did it, the baby did it.

      At the time, I heard it was taken off the air due to the fact that the network didn't want to glorify criminal behavier, or some other 80s nonsence.

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  55. Re:Sommoflange? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > One of the funniest lines ever spoken.

    okay, Mr. PostAtMinusOne. then explain it.

  56. Re:Buy the 22min TV comercial on DVD by zakezuke · · Score: 1

    I'm the first to admit, the concept of the transformers was cool, but the TV show was not. I guess I was a touch too old to enjoy it as other did, but I couldn't look past the fact that it was simply the same plot over and over again. Good guys see the bad buys doing bad things. Good guys get ass whiped, then regroup, and whip the bad guys ass, followed by some post resolution joke, laugher, and the same thing all over agian.

    I have a vague memeory of someone at one time robbing a bank with the Megatron Transformer, and after this all faux-guns sold in america were requried to have an orange tip to denote the fact they were toys.

    Now if you were to talk about Starblasers, it at least had a story arc to follow, sub plots, as well as a representation of imperial Japan. Transformers was pretty low on the redeming quality scale... as with things like Thundercats and Voltron.

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  57. Australian Shows by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you thought the Dukes of Hazzard and Kight Rider were bad... it's a far cry from "Neighbours" and the Australian "Young Talent Time".

    "Full House" is slow torture compared to "Young Talent Time".

    There was a time for everything 80s... and that was in the 80s.

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  58. That's nothing... by Magus311X · · Score: 4, Funny

    A while back, a bunch of us, for whatever reason, were arguing what the Hamburgler used to say. Whether is was "robble robble", or "rabble rabble". We debated this for 5 minutes, no fooling. Just kept going on and on, until someone suggested, "Why don't you just find out at a Hamburgler fan site?".

    After that sentence, we all just fell silent. It was an absolutely strange suggestion when you thought about it, but we also realized that they probably do exist.

    And lo and behold, Google didn't just find one, it found about a dozen. We laughed, both at the idea of googling for it, and the sad truth that there are Hamburgler fansites out there.

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    1. Re:That's nothing... by lightspawn · · Score: 1

      A while back, a bunch of us, for whatever reason, were arguing what the Hamburgler used to say. Whether is was "robble robble", or "rabble rabble". We debated this for 5 minutes, no fooling. Just kept going on and on, until someone suggested, "Why don't you just find out at a Hamburgler fan site?"

      And lo and behold, Google didn't just find one, it found about a dozen.


      So don't keep us waiting... which one was it?

    2. Re:That's nothing... by MrWa · · Score: 1
      And lo and behold, Google didn't just find one, it found about a dozen. We laughed, both at the idea of googling for it, and the sad truth that there are Hamburgler fansites out there.

      Well...which was it?! Was it "robble robble" or "rabble rabble"?

    3. Re:That's nothing... by sharkey · · Score: 1

      This one seems fairly recent.

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    4. Re:That's nothing... by hanssprudel · · Score: 1

      Screw google, look at the source!

    5. Re:That's nothing... by Scurrilous+Knave · · Score: 2, Funny

      We debated this for 5 minutes, no fooling.

      Only five minutes? Clearly the weed was better back in the 80's, if nothing else.

  59. I defy you to find this show on P2P. by Blaede · · Score: 2, Funny

    COP ROCK

    Yes, Cop Rock, a show where the characters would break out into song at key moments. I believe only five episodes were shown before the show was fed to the shark. In fact, this show's concept was so bad it jumped before one single line of script was written. I seriously don't know what Bochco was thinking, as well as the execs who green-lighted this. What piece of blackmail did Bochco have on them to get this aired?

    Anyway, if you can find some video of this (as well as Mexican wrestling movies from the 70s), you would be the king of Googling.

    1. Re:I defy you to find this show on P2P. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and wasn't this hyped by the press and
      critics as "break through" and "must see" show?

  60. The good old days... by KlomDark · · Score: 1

    I just went looking for a few of my favorites from when I was a kid:

    The Fantastic Journey: Weird adventures in the Bermuda Triangle

    Ark II: Keeping technology alive in a post-apocalyptic Earth.

    Run Joe Run: A german shepard who could put Lassie to shame

    And we can't forget the pretty much forgotten Andy Griffith in space show, Salvage One: Using the trans-linear vector principle to build a rocket out of junkyard parts. (An early concept of Junkyard Wars?)

    And a whole bunch of other shows from what used to be known as Cartoon Day (Back when cartoons were only on saturday morning, before Cartoon Network.)

  61. Reality TV by Wolfcat · · Score: 1

    Now here is a show... a reality tv show about fans of old tv shows have 20 days to put a website together, about one show, but none of them like the same show... first prize is the best of the A-Team DVD.

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  62. Hell... by Cyno01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For a lot of classic shows you can find them on kazaa if the dvds not out yet (eventually every show ever will be avalible on dvd). I've got old Doctor Who episodes, Quantum Leap, every episode of Sliders, some A-Team eps, along with Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy and a few dozen other shows. And before anyone starts a flamewar, yes it is copyright infingment, but where else am i going to find Daria or Greg the Bunny or Roswell with the original soundtrack intact. It all evens out since i own the first 2 seasons of Farscape on DVD, both Family Guy sets, Chappelles Show, Clerks the Animated Series, Firefly, Cowboy Bebop (i do feel a little guilty because my cowboy bebop set is a bootleg, but i bought it from amazon, so i blame them.) and some others...

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    1. Re:Hell... by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      I've got old Doctor Who episodes, Quantum Leap, every episode of Sliders, some A-Team eps, along with Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy and a few dozen other shows

      I have had issues getting doctor who via kazza. Not that I wasn't able to get some, I just can't seem to get all the ones I want in a specific story. Problem being doctor who is a pretty massive set to carry, and popular enough to be annoying to share.

      But I have to thank kazza kindly for having a shared copy of the first episode of Firefly not shown on air.

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    2. Re:Hell... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, i never really looked for anything specific but i managed to get all of; Day Of The Daleks, The Sontaran Experiment, The Ark in Space, Black Orchid, The Hand of Fear, The Androids of Tara and that crappy recent movie The Enemy Within. Looking through these though most of them are one big divx'd avi with all 4 episodes in it. A pain if your into VCDs, but i have everything on my hard drive and in a huge playlist on shuffle.

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    3. Re:Hell... by brand+bendy · · Score: 0


      every episode of Sliders

      Why? That show jumped the shark after the first season. I remember reading something once about how they purposefully dumbed it down and basicaly made it into a typical action crapfest. First season was great, then it was all down hill from there. I like almost every other show you mentioned though.

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  63. What was the name of that show? by craXORjack · · Score: 1

    What was that one show with the little girl who was really a robot and she always talked in a monotone? I want to say it was called Small Miracles or something like that. That was absolutely the worst sitcom that didn't get cancelled after one episode. No one could possibly provide a better example of totally horrific television.

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    1. Re:What was the name of that show? by LighthouseJ · · Score: 1
    2. Re:What was the name of that show? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      omg I remember that...

    3. Re:What was the name of that show? by craXORjack · · Score: 1

      Holy Crap! Your link says that this show lasted 4 seasons! I thought it was canceled quickly but I guess I just tuned it out of my concionsness after I saw one episode. There must be people out there who actually thought it was funny, either that or every pedophile in the country was tuning in and fantasizing about owning a robot like "vickie".

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  64. Work the lock by uberdave · · Score: 2, Funny
    Work the lock. Work the lock. Don't look at the dogs. Work the lock... You looked at the dogs.
    Magnum - To himself while picking the lock on the Ferrari.
    What a start to a show!
  65. Monkey magic anyone? by moxruby · · Score: 0

    I used to watch it religiously when I was 10. For those that remember, one of the main characters was a buddhist monk. I found myself strangely attracted to this feminine monk, but did my best to repress the thoughts.
    I was greatly relieved when I found out a few years later that the character was, in fact played by a woman and a great many other young boys had had the seem crisis of masculine identity. ;)

    1. Re:Monkey magic anyone? by spike1 · · Score: 1

      If you live in the UK, Monkey is currently nearing the end of a repeat run on Channel 4. (Tuesday nights, [err, wednesday mornings technically] at around about 1am-ish.

      They finished with series one and moved onto series two a couple of months ago (meaning we have a different Pigsy now, and the horse changes to a human at regular intervals) :)

  66. Amazing new media!! by UnixRevolution · · Score: 1

    In other news, a new media called "Internet" allows people to share information and interests with the entire world.

    Film at 11.

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  67. Off Topic? by kalirion · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is there a way to mark a story "Off Topic"?

  68. slashdot articles by Myopic · · Score: 0

    Is this story news for nerds, or stuff that matters? I can't figure it out.

  69. Small Wonder complete epsides, for example? by DoorFrame · · Score: 1

    There really isn't anything like the complete episodes of Small Wonder available online. You simply can't beat the internet.

    1. Re:Small Wonder complete epsides, for example? by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      I think this is something else best left forgotten. There is a piece of me that remembers moving away from a small town that only had 3 VHF stations to a town that had 6 VHF stations which included the new fox network. I'm thinking this was 1985, and the fox network was too bad for words.... but it was something to watch after all and i had seen all ABC, NBC, and CBS had to offer.

      Then I made friends and didn't tune to fox until the simpsons.

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  70. In other news... by Rexz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Internet contains 'web' 'pages' on various subjects.

  71. can still get them by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 1

    with programs like dc++ and mIRC you can still find older shows as long as you are in the right channels. I have the firt 3 seasons of star trek : tos as well as a very large number of lost in space and doctor who. If its been syndicated in the last 5 years - its online.

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  72. and on the other part of the world ... by rahard · · Score: 1
    the story is the same. during the 70s here in asia we didn't have that much american influence. our tv shows were mostly japanese fake robots and cartoons. come to think of it, we did have "lost in space".

    during the 80s we started geting those (disco) music videos from us and europe. and the A team, of course [sic].

    when i talked to people at the same age, i was shocked that they watched the same tv shows. we laughed at the things that were said and done on those silly shows. how on earth did we watch them and thought they were cool?

    so ... this is happening in all parts of the world. except that we didn't have your shows! that's why having an internet site (or P2P network) with those shows is important so that i can understand what you folks are talking about.
    i had to watch reruns of "family ties", "cheers", and the like (the list is long) to understand certain "cultural things".

    now, is there an archive of david letterman? -- br

  73. Miami Vice! by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

    I was a Transformers and Knight Rider fan as a kid back in the 80's, but watching the reruns of Miami Vice now on FX, I can't help but wish I'd watched the show back then.

    Sonny and Tubbs had it all - guns, girls, fast cars and exciting jobs. What more is there to life?

    Sadly, I never realized how much I liked the Miami Vice/Scarface culture of the 80's until I played GTA: Vice City...

    If all the Miami Vice eps were put on DVDs, I would happily buy them all.

    1. Re:Miami Vice! by Bogatyr · · Score: 1

      I watched Miami Vice when it aired, caught most of the episodes, and still like the series. I would also cheerfully buy the entire series on DVD>

    2. Re:Miami Vice! by dukeisgod · · Score: 1

      I remember usually not being allowed to stay up late enough for Miami Vice as a kid. Plenty of times we'd get detoured because a scene was shooting. It is kinda cool to recognize where they are and see how much (or how little) that spot has changed. It does kind of kill it to know that a chase is magically jumping 20 or more miles across town. That was even worse in Fast and Furious 2.

    3. Re:Miami Vice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've also been watching reruns of Miami Vice lately, and boy, that show's actually really well done! Sure, it's got a few cheesy moments every now and then, but compared to something like Knight Rider it's fucking Shakespeare. Just goes to prove that not all TV writers were idiots back then... just makes me wonder why they even bother showing Knight Rider on reruns. Surely there must have been other well written shows back then?

  74. Re:I learned I could see color on a B&W TV fro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe your eyes were sensitive enough to detect the phase shift at the borders of coloured areas?

  75. It's about characters. by MagicDude · · Score: 1

    Thinking about the shows we have today it's hard to think which will have any kind of staying power so that it will be remembered 20 years for now. What's left these days after your remove the reality TV and the situational dramas (like CSI, CSI Miami, CSI etc). All these retro shows that everone remembers is about characters everyone liked, not about which jerk was voted off the island, or which no talent hack had their self esteem ripped to shreds by a british goon. We have the Simpsons, and Friends and a few others who fit this catagory, but we're quickly losing this genre of television. And what shows we do have are being brutally supressed. These past few weeks NBC pre-empted Scrubs (a genuinely funny and quirky show about doctors) for a two part special on Princess Diana. Her death was tragic yes, but it was 5 freaking years ago; get over it already. I may get flamed for that comment, but plenty of people die who don't get nearly as much publicity as her. Mother Teresa died at the same time, and nobody gave a damn. It's just a testament to the shallowness of the TV media.

  76. Quantum Leap by darkitecture · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What do you do when one of your favorite show ends?

    That's a good god-damn question.

    I'd like to hear from some Quantum Leap fans after they were left with their mouths gaping open, speechless after watching the last episode, thinking to themselves simultaneously, "WTF?!"

    Sure, some people change the channel. But there are times where you're just left ALL SORTS of screwed up, not knowing what the hell just happened.

  77. Part of your lives, maybe by Alrescha · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...but I stopped watching television regularly at the ripe old age of 18.

    I got a summer job in the woods. When I came back home after three months and sat down in front of a television I simply could not believe that people could watch such inane drivel. I lasted 15 minutes.

    It was nearly ten years later that I actually bought a television set, and that so I could watch movies on HBO. I no longer even have cable. Once in a while at a friends house I will see what is on the tube today and as far as I can tell, it hasn't improved.

    I know, I know... How will I ever function in society without having seen a single episode of 'St. Elsewhere', 'E.R', or 'Survivor'?

    A.

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  78. Ludicrous by Bodrius · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the A-Team was "ludicrous"... maybe an unintentional comedy of sorts, but at least had a better sense of humor than McGyver, for example.

    Now, thinking of ludicrous examples of 80s TV shows, "Small Wonder" popped into my head. I will forever curse the author of this article for that... but he has a point. Sure, enough, there was a fan site for "Small Wonder".

    However, some jewels remain improperly exploited. The lack of an "Sledge Hammer" DVD is a crime against humanity. The show was proud of its own ludicrousness, and was the best spoof of the 80s TV shows in general. I can only imagine it died because on an unhealthy lack of cynicism in previous generations, and a lack of the awareness of its existence in the current ones.

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  79. Really? by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I thought it was a reference to the fact that a shows popularity peaks and then plummets, producing a graph with respect to time that looks like a shark's fin.

    I guess it's a whole lot cooler if it's a double entendre...

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  80. Tales of the Golden Monkey by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    Anyone else remember this show? It was on for one season ('82-'83), set in 1939 or so in the Pacific. Had a guy with a seaplane and a dog, Nazis, and a bar called the "Golden Monkey".

    I've found a few sites about it, but I have yet to meet anyone besides the site operators that remembers this show. It was probably horrible, but as a 9 year old I have fond memories of it.

    Ah, wasted youth.....

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    1. Re:Tales of the Golden Monkey by jkubecki · · Score: 1

      Actually, if memory serves, it was "Tales of the Gold Monkey". I remember it - a pre-Star Trek The Motion Picture Stephen Collins, and the dog had one eye (and named Jack, appropriately). The seaplane was named "Cutter's Goose" I think (the main character's name was Cutter).
      Again, this is all from memory.
      Bonus question, though... Who remembers "Bring Em Back Alive"? That had Bruce Boxleitner, and was the OTHER WWII-era action-adventure show that tried to cash in, like "Gold Monkey", on the popularity of "Raiders"...

    2. Re:Tales of the Golden Monkey by spike1 · · Score: 1

      I remember both, always preferred Tales of the gold monkey.

      So named not just because of the bar, but because the pilot episode involved the nazi quest for a mythical artifact made from a highly heat resistant metal that they could use in rocket design.

      Our hero manages to get to the cave containing this "gold monkey" and get out just as the volcano erupts, only to find when he gets back, that the monkey is made of bronze. (Then it cut back to the cave mouth with lava flowing around it, which is now revealed to be the golden monkey in question. (They'd walking into the cave through its mouth.)

      The amazing thing is, it was only ever broadcast in the UK once, and I still remember that episode.
      (Don't remember anything else about it though... memory is a weird thing, innit)

  81. classic sitcoms by RussP · · Score: 1

    I think the best sitcoms from my youth were Beverly Hillbillies and Get Smart. Yes, I know they were corny, but sometimes they were hilarious. And that lead-in of Agent 86 walking down that long hallway is truly classic.

    Then again, I haven't watched a sitcom since the 60s. Either they don't make 'em like they used to, or I grew up.

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  82. YesterdayLand by CerealFan · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned YesterdayLand yet. This website documented cultural artifacts such as toys, fashions, televion, and games by the decade going back to about 1900. Though they went bankrupt some time ago, the site is still accessable in some form through Archive.org's Wayback Machine. The site was a wealth of information with an active community; it is always disappointing to see sites like this go under.

  83. airwolf by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    remember that, it was one of the coolest Showes ever until one of the seasons then went to shit.. anyone know where you can get episodes of it... kinda like a mymacgyver.tk for airwolf

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  84. You Can't Do That On Television by frizz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's sad to me that You Can't Do That On Television, along with the other 80's Nickelodeon shows that I grew up watching, will probably never be shown again.

  85. possible virus alert from the full house site? by ferrocene · · Score: 1

    My roommate claims that the full house link has a popup that gave him the startpage virus. Just FYI...

    Of course, me using moz, I didn't notice it.

    http://fly.to/fullhouse

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  86. I havent laughed this hard... by Zilfondel2 · · Score: 0

    I haven't laughed this hard in years. Seriously, I had to do it. I googled. Now I truly regret it.

  87. Transformers and Schoolyard Trauma by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 1

    I'm the first to admit, the concept of the transformers was cool, but the TV show was not.

    No. Transformers(TM) are not cool, were never cool, and never will be cool.

    They're hideous chunks of cheap-assed made-in-$INSERT_THIRD_WORLD_MANUFACTURING_HELLHOLE _DU_JOUR plastic crap that all the kids with mucous running down their noses in endless streams clamored to have.

    My big resentment is not that all my 1980s peers had them. As a kid who was *always* into electronics, I was always building or playing with something involving - you guessed it - transformers. Note that's not Transformers(TM), that's transformers.

    You can't *imagine* how many times I wanted to beat someone over the head with precious iron laminates for telling me that the object in my hand was *not* a transformer.

    To add insult to injury, one of my aunts gave me a Transformer(TM) for Christmas one year. Since it couldn't be returned for something more useful than some silly "Let's pretend that we're going to kick some Decepticon ass" garbage, I certainly enjoyed pounding it in the school yard with a 5lb chunk of Hammond.

    "Wanna see which is the most powerful transformer of them all", I asked as children cried about the impending destruction of the effluence they all wanted.

    That plastic crap didn't stand a chance against those strong silicon-iron laminates. It kinda smeared into them, like lipstick into a brick. I still have that transformer, and it still bears a silver and red streak.

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    1. Re:Transformers and Schoolyard Trauma by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      They're hideous chunks of cheap-assed made-in-$INSERT_THIRD_WORLD_MANUFACTURING_HELLHOLE _DU_JOUR plastic crap that all the kids with mucous running down their noses in endless streams clamored to have.

      I didn't mean to say the toys them selfs were cool or even were constructed well. I have to admit, I was given one by someone in my family at some point. Which ever the red car had to be. I believe it was an earlier model, standing about 3-4 inches high or so, and actually seemed well constructed. I no longer have it as it disapeared with my newphews. It had no such silver / pigment streek. I believe it was one from this collection.
      http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple /1986/
      http://www.geocities.com/superjinrai/1985/ botcars. jpg

      I also got the Arial bots at some point... these I believe to be a later construction... overpriced plastic crap about as complex as a toothpick. http://www.geocities.com/superjinrai/1985/aerialbo ts.jpg
      I think they were a quarter a piece, bought because I thought they might have some value to someone. I was sadly mistaken.

      Transformers(tm) as a toy, concept wise, were cool in the fact that they were a touch more complex then action figures, more akin to puzzles actually. So you have hand eye cordination, visualization, and manipluating objects in space. And i'm all for developing these skills in children rather then just pure imagination. I'd support the purchace of decent transformers over GI Joe any day.

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    2. Re:Transformers and Schoolyard Trauma by ipxodi · · Score: 1

      They're hideous chunks of cheap-assed made-in-$INSERT_THIRD_WORLD_MANUFACTURING_HELLHOLE _DU_JOUR plastic crap that all the kids with mucous running down their noses in endless streams clamored to have

      Except, one person I know who had collected a bunch of them in the 80's managed to sell his entire collection for $3500 a year or so ago.
      That doesn't mean they weren't hideous and cheap -- but it wasn't a bad investment, considering they probably didn't cost more than about $1000 in the first place.

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    3. Re:Transformers and Schoolyard Trauma by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      Except, one person I know who had collected a bunch of them in the 80's managed to sell his entire collection for $3500 a year or so ago.

      Everyone knows that one person who collected crap and sold it for an insane price. My problem is I'm not very good at pointing out which specific crap is going to actually be worth a damn in a year or two.

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  88. happy days and step by step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    we were talking at work about crappy tv and I remembered an episode of happy days, plot was similar to a step by step show,they just happened to show the repeats a couple of days apart.
    I used tv tome to check it out, season 1 episode 20 (Daddy's girl) was an almost an exact ripoff of season 2 episode 29(fonzie get's married) of happy days.I think they even ripped off some of the dialogue.
    I knew that the writing on step by step was crap but didn't think they had to resort to plagarism,especially the first season. wonder how many others doing this?

  89. This is a job for... by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 1

    ... The Hall of Broken Memories!

    Dedicated to cataloging all of the hideous and obscene fanfic and fanart that ruins all of our cherished nostalgic childhood memories.

    Powerpuff Girls, check. Electra-Woman and Dyna-Girl, check. Rainbow Brite, check. Those are almost obvious. My Little Pony, perhaps less so.

    On the other hand, Mighty Mouse or Care Bears slashfic takes a certain je ne sais quoi to create; and Gummi Bears or Knight Rider slash indicates someone, somewhere, is operating from an entirely different playbook: but slash based on William Faulkner's As I Lay Dying? Or Whose Line Is It Anyway? Someone, somewhere, is just going down a long checklist, doing these one at a time; I just know it.

    On the other hand, the existence of The Chronicles of Narnia slash could only have been predicted by H. P. Lovecraft himself.

    And then he would have gone mad.

  90. Nothing less than mind-control by michaelmalak · · Score: 1
    Copyrights were originally 17 years.

    When content producers exploit not only the now practically perpetual copyrights, but start denying fair use as well with the DMCA even on abandonware, it's nothing less than mind control, especially when it comes to childhood memories. Since adult stability is rooted in childhood stability, those of us fortunate enough to have had happy childhoods are unable to legally recall our them, speak about them in many cases, and relate to those of our own generation (or children, for that matter).

    Since I was raised in an era of 70-year copyrights, I wasn't too bothered by them. But now with the proposition of perpetual copyrights and DMCA, I am very selective about what I will watch and what software I will use, because I know that by doing so my psyche will be altered and I generally want the ability to reflect back upon my experiences in the future. Before I allow myself to go to a movie (the few times that I do), I ask myself the question, "am I willing to never see this movie again after today?" because I do not want to be held in blackmail by the content producer.

    A 17 year monopoly should be more than enough. That would allow, for example, those in their 30's to reflect upon and relive their childhood as they themselves are likely at a stage of life of starting to raise children or gaining significant responsibility in a career.

    1. Re:Nothing less than mind-control by AndrewCox · · Score: 1

      Since adult stability is rooted in childhood stability, those of us fortunate enough to have had happy childhoods are unable to legally recall our [sic] them, speak about them in many cases, and relate to those of our own generation (or children, for that matter).

      Since I was raised in an era of 70-year copyrights, I wasn't too bothered by them. But now with the proposition of perpetual copyrights and DMCA, I am very selective about what I will watch and what software I will use, because I know that by doing so my psyche will be altered and I generally want the ability to reflect back upon my experiences in the future. Before I allow myself to go to a movie (the few times that I do), I ask myself the question, "am I willing to never see this movie again after today?" because I do not want to be held in blackmail by the content producer.


      Dude, you have some serious issues ...

      --
      The Red Pill ... all I'm o
  91. Retro UK TV site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  92. Re:Jump The Shark: Chronicling The Moments When TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good Karma-whoring!

  93. Forgotten series... by AmicoToni · · Score: 1

    Well, one of the purposes of the web is that of preserving memories (and history), regardless of the source.
    Since we are on Slashdot, however, and Sci-Fi is one of the hot topics, I will just mention Star Maidens and Raumpatrouille Orion. Surely bad TV, but I am glad I can prove to myself those weird and indistinct memories are real after all!... :)

    1. Re:Forgotten series... by spike1 · · Score: 1

      Wow!

      Someone else remembers star maidens?
      (On a sunday afternoon when Logan's Run or Space 1999 were between seasons, after "The Beachcombers" and before "weekend world"

  94. Blessed Youth by escallywag · · Score: 1
    Back in the 80's there was this French TV channel that aired now classic anime shows like Dragon Ball (the orignal, not that Z-crap), Saint Seya, Fist of the North Star, Albator... Other channels had the usual like the A-team, Knight Rider, etc... I could easily do without those but NOTHING would come between me and my weekly anime fix...

    Another difference is that today I still enjoy that same classic anime while most of the American series have turned into utter tripe over the years...

  95. This is a pathetic story by Muttonhead · · Score: 1
    This is a really pathetic story. Really Slashdot. How low can you go?

    Uh, anybody got any old "Hey Dude" episodes online? Huh, huh, huh?

  96. Only Online? by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    "So what do you do when they end? Immortalise them online."

    I'm glad to see more and more of them immortalized in Nick at Nite, etc. I've compared the reruns (not just my memory of them) with the new shows, and usually prefer the former. They had 52 minute hours, unlike today's 44 minutes. So they were heavily censored. Most of what's on today that would have been censored then is gratuitous.

    As for the "Why is this newsworthy" whining: STUFF FOR NERDS. I'm a MacGyver fan. You can't get much nerdier.

    --
    "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
  97. tvshowsondvd.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.tvshowsondvd.com

  98. Better, may be not; warm and friendly, absolutely by OldCrasher · · Score: 1

    I don't doubt that there are better programs now, and that some of the shows we watched in years of old were junk, but every so often it is just great to come across something that you loved and makes you feel warm and fuzzy once again. And while not of the Eighties, the tales of Noggin the Nog (a cartoon character that had a flying long boat and a friendly dragon), and subsequently finding sites to recapture the magic of this show, have made it clear to me that these fan sites of old shows are a good thing.

  99. TV Guide's website by notyou2 · · Score: 1

    TV Guide has reasonably good episode guides for most shows, all in one place. Check out:

    http://www.tvguide.com/tv/showguide/

    When you click on a show, there are links in the left sidebar to each season, which then contains summaries of every episode.

  100. Aliens in the Family by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know the internet has gone too far when you get multiple hits for the show Aliens in the Family.

    Mmm...pudding

  101. Right on ... Magnum's a classic by doc_traig · · Score: 1


    Great show. I'm not sure how the reruns ended up on the Hallmark Channel (?) but Tivo found 'em. God bless you Tivo and your shiny metallic casing and little red light...

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    So long, michael. Don't let the door hit you...
  102. Poor troll, sir, because I'm the only reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    A few tools modded you up, no doubt from the same "KILL YUOR TV!!!1" crowd.

    gg... btr luck nex tm

  103. They've certainly come a long from ... by cylcyl · · Score: 1

    Just hauling luggage at airports.

    I somehow think that this is a vision of the future thought up by those guys in their spare time

  104. Speed Racer... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    I watched Speed Racer almost every day after school (late '70s early '80s). Before that, my mom would kick us kids outside to fend for ourselves - so we would go to the lake and fish, or grab a glove and ball and go play some pickup baseball at the elementary school.

    Most of the time I was too busy doing things to sit down and watch TV. I also read alot and when I recieved my first computer as a Christmas present, I spent any time I would have spent in front of the TV writing programs. MTV came along when cable TV came out - but my parents never got cable while I was living with them.

    Then I graduated HS and joined the military - and spent the next 4 years too damn busy to watch much (cold warrior) - was stationed in England and spent some time watching 'Benny Hill' reruns - at that time there was no cable in Englad - so you only had 3 or 4 channels to choose from. Again, I spent time reading - and was involved with a band, and recording music - and running around to clubs and pubs...not much time to sit infront of a boob-tube.

    After that...well, more of the same...

    Fast forward to today: I watch TV irregularly - mostly the History Channel - and then particular shows that interest me (Lee Ermy's military Q&A show is of particular interest to me), and sometimes catch 'King of the Hill' and 'The Simpsons' during dinner time. Most of my time is spent on my computer - either playing MMOGs or doing work (programming, writing, reading forums). I also continue to read paper books - histories, technical, novels....

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    Lodragan Draoidh
    The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
  105. Good article... by jeff13 · · Score: 1

    ... as are all /. articles regarding cyber culture and 'geek culture' in general.

    Thanx! :)

  106. Petition to Remove Voice-Overs and Split-Screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sign the petition to get Nick and TV-Land to
    stop doing voice-overs and split-screens during
    the credits and the end of a show. Go here:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/nan/

  107. This article is so true.... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

    Nevermind that you suspended belief for about a half an hour each of these came on. These shows were cool...even if....

    A 70's Dodge Charger was never capable of those jumps

    The Semi used in Knight Rider looked normal on the outside, but was a large garage once they switched inside.

    That they tried the SAME crap with TKR (Team Knight Rider) in the late ninety's.

    That the A Team could never get caught by the best army in the world.

    We watched them anyway. The best parts of the A Team were the Plan or gadget of the week and how they figured out hoe to get BA on the plane. Making a armored vehicle out of a late model sedan or just doign the simple stuff to stay alive it was all good, if not terribly believable.

    The BEST shows though live on. Star Trek. If you sit and watch the original, the effects look cheesy as hell yet the story still works. Try that on Knight Rider. The effects were still cheesy, yet it was popular and in som eplaces far more then in the US. I remember when Baywatch had more viewers in Europe then they did in all of the US. Thats what kept that syndicated piece of junk around far longer then needed. Well, that and Pam Anderson's Boobs.

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    Gorkman

  108. Re:freenet vs fascist corporations by RJfortyfive · · Score: 1

    You don't need to conceal what the _network_ is sharing, just _where_ it's at. In my mind, Freenet, or Freenet+ (tm) will completely conceal your identity and what you have, while a master (distributed, of course) directory will allways list the current contents. Bits of encrypted files will be stored throughout the network. Perfect for stifling over-litigious corporations that won't sell you the content you want, but prohibit any distribution.

  109. Re:freenet vs fascist corporations by hankaholic · · Score: 1

    ...which is true, but still doesn't solve fact that preserving content isn't one of Freenet's design goals. Popular content spreads around, but content which isn't used eventually goes away.

    Freenet's design duplicates highly used data, which should reduce the average amount of traffic required to actually retrieve it. However, it is not (and likely will never be) intended to store content permanently, which means that no matter how well Freenet works at its intended goals, there will still be content which will cease to exist because nobody has requested it while every node in existence has the Paris Hilton video cached in its local store.

    Freenet is a great project which in theory should do incredibly well for its intended goals. It may also work reasonably well for allowing you to access some artistic content. However, as long as the U.S. Government lets the RIAA and friends keep the keys to the storage shed that used to be called "public domain", using Freenet to distribute copyrighted content will be treating the symptom, not the disease.

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    Somebody get that guy an ambulance!
  110. Re:Sommoflange? by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 1

    Offtopic? Gah, some of these moderators need to have Cheetarah's pole broken off in their ass.

  111. Re:I learned I could see color on a B&W TV fro by spike1 · · Score: 1

    There is no "phase shift" to speak of on a B&W telly. The colour signal "piggybacks" the monochrome one and is totally ignored by a TV incapable of showing it. The TV itself has only one pigment on its phosphor.

    I'd say "lucky guess" would be closer, unless he saw some publicity photos in a magazine and forgot about them.