My company's Internet connection is not your lab. I did not request your services and you are not compensating me for use of my resources for your education. We have no contract detailing the work you are permited to perform at my perimeter. As a matter of fact, I see nothing in that assignment which requires you to get permission from me to scan your network. Instead, I see instructions to be stealthy and only communicate with me if I notice you. This more than anything makes me question the ethics of this assignment.
I don't care if you're talented. You have no idea how a scan is going to affect whatever applications I have running off of that pipe. What may not break one network may most certainly break another. You, with all your talent, can still make a mistake. I've had it happen to me and the reason why I was able to quickly recover was because I KNEW I WAS BEING SCANNED BEFOREHAND! Vendor comes in and says "Oh, this is going to be harmless." and surprise one little Nessus scan brings down half the unix farm until I unplug the laptop. If I really want you pen-testing my network then I'll bring you in as an intern. That way I know about and accept the risk I want to take instead of the unknown.
You make this bold, sweeping statement about security through obscurity but reread your quote. "You may" not "You will" The students do not have to turn in their work to the company they scanned so there is no way for that organization to take those findings and improve their system. If this was some big noble cause why didn't the prof contact some local businesses and have them agree to a pen-test in return for a report? The fact that the administration reserves the right to discipline any student that uses this assignment to scan the school's network speaks volumes. Your comment about admins who oppose this are ones who routinely port scan the school's network is a fallacy on so many levels that I simply chose to ignore it.
I don't care if the prof is going to cash his Nobel check and give the money to the starving poor in Africa. The assignment was ill conceived from the start. It wasn't professional or academic and there were viable alternatives other than going out into the wild and poking around people's perimeters without permission. What? Haven't heard of a test lab?
Absolutely nothing in your post has dissuaded me from the opinion that this entire issue was just plain dumb.
Yeah, because Lord knows that back when we were growing up we didn't have pop drivel. I'd hit the AM dial and get the likes of ABBA or the BeeGees.... Oh wait....
Having never played the game I can't say but I wouldn't be surprised, if the developers thought it out, that he could script the taxation. Go onto island aim gun and shoot, then get a pop-up window stating how many PEDs it's going to cost to bag the animal. I could see mining done the same way. The actual selling of property I would see as wanting to keep as a manual process allowing the option to maximize profit and have some fun bargining with the other players.
just so I could trash the place up and bring the property values down. Cut down some of that scenic view to build my shack, grab some low-res tires to plant some flowers that I can't keep alive alive anyway and play a boombox so I can blast techno/rap/heavy metal gospel across the neighborhood. Mow the lawn? You gotta be kidding me.
And nobody better be touching my still out in back....
What independent thinking? ID certainly doesn't promote it. It provides the ultimate out in the search for truth. It's too hard right now to explain *this* so the obvious answer is God did it! (And don't even try to claim it is some ambiguous creator that spontaneously created the eye. The second some pagan asserts that it was the Goddess who made it happen you'll see every ID proponent in Kansas heading out to smite that heretic down.)
ID's greatest sin is that it closes doors to scientific research. If God miraciously intervened and created the eye then there is no reason to try to find an explanation. God did it so leave it alone and don't question it. Obviously if a million believers can't figure it out what could a scientist accomplish? And if this can be done in evolution then why can't it be done in other sciences? The creation of the universe is too complex to really comprehend so all this fluff about researching gravity really doesn't have to be done because we can just attribute the really interesting mysteries to God.
ID isn't science. It's the same old shit that pioneers in science had to fight against and be abused by centuries ago.
Ummm about that point 1.... Hate to say it but lately I'm seeing a lot more pressure being applied by the BSD community for open specs, getting firmware relicensed so that OSS projects can redistribute it, etc., etc. than I'm seeing from the linux community which seems to capitulate *cough*ndiswrapper*cough*videodrivers*cough* to closed source all in the name of pragmatism.
I am licencing out the right to live for a weekly fee of only a million, zillion, kajillion smackaroonies!
That's fair. Just give me a moment while I go get my LART. Now you will allow me to take a break after the first zillion smacks or do I have to pay you completely up front? Just so we're clear I don't do lay away with these type of deals. I want to be fair and buy my right to live upfront.
They'll patent various combinations of *ehrrrm* positions as an invention to overcome "erectile difficulties due to various psychological barriers e.g. stress, performance demands, wolf date...."
No my friend, not even porn is safe from these fiends.
Yeah because every scientist out there needs to have a double major in PR and be a total extrovert to do their job. Not like they don't have to deal with enough politics in their own profession.
Look. I get what you are trying to say but you're trying to spin this off as if any pre-teen can have the political savvy to get a message across and that isn't true. Those "baboons" you're talking about have an innate talent to work with people. They have training, experience, much more education than you give them credit for and, for the real policy makers, they have staff on hand to research and come up with a way to frame an issue that appeals to the masses. To trivialize those resources is naive.
You also make the false assumption that, even if the scientists were a bunch of silver-tounged foxes and can up with the perfect way to frame the issue, the policy makers or the public at large would follow them. That isn't true.
Yes, scientists and techies do need to develop their soft skills over the long run but to think that we're going to "win" issues by doing that alone is really wishful thinking.
While this isn't exactly foolproof, IIRC just look for the Audio CD trademark on the disc. There are no DRM specs for the actual format and the company that owns it made a stink awhile ago about copy protected discs using the mark (search/. there was an article about it sometime ago.)
Any recent release should be marked as copy protected in some way, shape or form.
This was semmingly bought by Sony from a 3rd party to protect their DRM scheme. My bet is no AV company is going to try and detect it or remove it as it is a "legitimate program." What's funny (well sick funny but still funny) is I could see First4Internet trying to sue anyone for labeling their software as malware and then trying to remove it. Not like that isn't the first time that's happened.
Don't tell Sony. Tell the Brothers that they lost a sale. Let them know that the product they worked so hard on now has poorly written software on it that could damage your computer. And through you want their music you can't buy it and you're going to tell your friends not to risk buying this CD.
Red, white and blue background. Talking about a state in the US where all the documents are going to be archived in American English. Yeah the GP painted with a pretty wide brush but for the context it really wasn't that bad of a comment. Of course, I do see benefits....
[Scene: Blur away from Flower typing his post to/. and start to play stereotypical Arab music with someone reciting prayers (actually a shopping list - Americans won't know the difference anyway) over a loud speaker. Fade in to scene of Arabian town covered in sand (lots of sand, gotta have sand. Camels too) move camera through throngs of people in the market place and through a dark alley where masked men holding AK-47s are guarding an ordinary door (covered in sand.) Cut scene to room behind the door where two men - one with laptop - drink tea together. Man with laptop moves hooka to the side]
[Arab with laptop] So do you have the disc?
[Other Arab] Yes Amir. *hands over CD-Rom* We were given this by our spy in MA. With these files from their state government we can start to plot our next terrorist attack against the American dog infidels!
[Amir, inserting disc into laptop and trying to access the files. He begins to frown as his eyes flare] American PIG DOGS! These files are in 7-BIT ASCII TEXT. They are useless for my WORLDLY Unicode software. *spits on ground, considers hitting cd-rom with his sandal* These are clever infidels from the Great Satan Habib. We'll have to move our plan to some other state where they are more modern. Maybe Wisconsin?
Nope. I have a better one. If MS has shown them any code what is to stop S. Korea from essentially declaring their version of emminent domain and using said code to help the country migrate off of Windows? That would be interesting.
This isn't a free market and hasn't been a free market for quite some time since lassie faire economics essentially failed. As with most other constructs - like socialism, democracy, capitalism, on-line gaming etc. - it looks good on paper but once it hits the real world it needs tweaking to stop abuse - Stalinism, tyrrany of the majority, monopolies and anti-consumer practices, selling high powered items on EBay, etc..
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I don't care if you're talented. You have no idea how a scan is going to affect whatever applications I have running off of that pipe. What may not break one network may most certainly break another. You, with all your talent, can still make a mistake. I've had it happen to me and the reason why I was able to quickly recover was because I KNEW I WAS BEING SCANNED BEFOREHAND! Vendor comes in and says "Oh, this is going to be harmless." and surprise one little Nessus scan brings down half the unix farm until I unplug the laptop. If I really want you pen-testing my network then I'll bring you in as an intern. That way I know about and accept the risk I want to take instead of the unknown.
You make this bold, sweeping statement about security through obscurity but reread your quote. "You may" not "You will" The students do not have to turn in their work to the company they scanned so there is no way for that organization to take those findings and improve their system. If this was some big noble cause why didn't the prof contact some local businesses and have them agree to a pen-test in return for a report? The fact that the administration reserves the right to discipline any student that uses this assignment to scan the school's network speaks volumes. Your comment about admins who oppose this are ones who routinely port scan the school's network is a fallacy on so many levels that I simply chose to ignore it.
I don't care if the prof is going to cash his Nobel check and give the money to the starving poor in Africa. The assignment was ill conceived from the start. It wasn't professional or academic and there were viable alternatives other than going out into the wild and poking around people's perimeters without permission. What? Haven't heard of a test lab?
Absolutely nothing in your post has dissuaded me from the opinion that this entire issue was just plain dumb.
Guess they must have forgot the bacon and just went for the pigskin.
But a lot of of the poster's other points were spot on. Way to go with grabbing the low hanging fruit there big guy. :P
A COLA troll got a piece on The Register. So very 1996. How quaint that it made it to the front page.
Nevermind.
Having never played the game I can't say but I wouldn't be surprised, if the developers thought it out, that he could script the taxation. Go onto island aim gun and shoot, then get a pop-up window stating how many PEDs it's going to cost to bag the animal. I could see mining done the same way. The actual selling of property I would see as wanting to keep as a manual process allowing the option to maximize profit and have some fun bargining with the other players.
No. This guy understood the phenomenon of the pet rock and the wisdom of "There's a sucker born every minute."
And nobody better be touching my still out in back....
ID's greatest sin is that it closes doors to scientific research. If God miraciously intervened and created the eye then there is no reason to try to find an explanation. God did it so leave it alone and don't question it. Obviously if a million believers can't figure it out what could a scientist accomplish? And if this can be done in evolution then why can't it be done in other sciences? The creation of the universe is too complex to really comprehend so all this fluff about researching gravity really doesn't have to be done because we can just attribute the really interesting mysteries to God.
ID isn't science. It's the same old shit that pioneers in science had to fight against and be abused by centuries ago.
"Just code" != "not care."
That's fair. Just give me a moment while I go get my LART. Now you will allow me to take a break after the first zillion smacks or do I have to pay you completely up front? Just so we're clear I don't do lay away with these type of deals. I want to be fair and buy my right to live upfront.
sweet.
Why yes. Yes it is.
No my friend, not even porn is safe from these fiends.
Silly. In the tape library of course - where we keep the lime pit. That's like BOFH 101.
Oh for Pete's sake, don't have a meltdown!
Look. I get what you are trying to say but you're trying to spin this off as if any pre-teen can have the political savvy to get a message across and that isn't true. Those "baboons" you're talking about have an innate talent to work with people. They have training, experience, much more education than you give them credit for and, for the real policy makers, they have staff on hand to research and come up with a way to frame an issue that appeals to the masses. To trivialize those resources is naive.
You also make the false assumption that, even if the scientists were a bunch of silver-tounged foxes and can up with the perfect way to frame the issue, the policy makers or the public at large would follow them. That isn't true.
Yes, scientists and techies do need to develop their soft skills over the long run but to think that we're going to "win" issues by doing that alone is really wishful thinking.
It's their right to change their minds.....
I believe this issue is too complex to be knowable and any solution that does arise should be attributed to an, as yet unnamed, Creator.
It wasn't a good idea back then! I'm... I'm just at a loss for words.
Any recent release should be marked as copy protected in some way, shape or form.
This was semmingly bought by Sony from a 3rd party to protect their DRM scheme. My bet is no AV company is going to try and detect it or remove it as it is a "legitimate program." What's funny (well sick funny but still funny) is I could see First4Internet trying to sue anyone for labeling their software as malware and then trying to remove it. Not like that isn't the first time that's happened.
Don't tell Sony. Tell the Brothers that they lost a sale. Let them know that the product they worked so hard on now has poorly written software on it that could damage your computer. And through you want their music you can't buy it and you're going to tell your friends not to risk buying this CD.
Yeah, I can some merit to the idea.
Nope. I have a better one. If MS has shown them any code what is to stop S. Korea from essentially declaring their version of emminent domain and using said code to help the country migrate off of Windows? That would be interesting.
Checks and balances are not a bad thing.
I could have sworn I hit my /. but I seem to have gotten onto Digg. BBL. Gotta check my DNS server...