No offense tonyray, but selling computers at your shop doesn't make you an ISP just because those computers can get on the internet.
Having actually worked for a mid-size ISP (~180 000 broadband subscribers when I left three years ago, a little less dial-up users then that), and having dealt with roughly 6000 tech support calls in that period (mostly part-time), I call BS on saying that Linux users cause far more problems is pure FUD.
It was not officially supported, but most calls from Linux users ended in about 2 minutes after giving them our DNS servers, mail and smtp servers, and checking if their cable modem was functionning normally on the network. It's a longshot to declare that the majority of your supposed linux users have been hacked too.
For the umpteenth time, it is NOT thef, it's copyright infringement. There is a difference, one that is often totally ignored by people claiming the moral high ground.
Painting a clean surface of metal with a coat of primer and then a coat of paint is not like painting a wooden fence. The paint won't start cracking next spring. Just go look at a painted I-beams used in building bridges, they are out there in the weather and the paint does not peel and flake off.
Ok, I have to admit I'm scared of bees (yeah, yeah, laugh), but did you just walk up to 500 bees, in plain clothes and start spraying them? Didn't you end up with dozens of stings?
You're probably looking at the very very least 5 million just in salary you'll pay to welders. Having ~70 industrial workers on site at a paper mill for a 2 week shutdown can run you above 500k easily. Now quadruple that for intense construction, and calculate a good 8-12 months of having them around. But that's just for time, now you gotta buy all the equipment.
Building a new boiler for a paper mill is something around 125-150 million $. That's just one boiler. Some big refineries sites have three or more power boilers, and that's just a drop in a huge sea.
If those plants were very cheap, I'd guess they'd cost about 300-400 million, putting your figure of oil independance at 3-4 trillion $, just to build the plants.
Surgical masks are more about keeping things "in" then keeping them "out". When someone's abdomen is opened and all the organs are exposed, you don't want whatever is inside the doctor's and nurse's mouth to get a free ride to vital organs.
Retrofitting a 747 for firefighting? Why not buy a plane designed from the ground off for firefighting purposes? It can drop 32000 to 65000 gallons of water between refueling. In real life situation it has proven to be able to deliver up to 30 000 gallons per hour.
Ever since I was a kid I'd seen videos of CL215 (the predecessor) fighting the big forest fires, and I was always wondering why the US used small choppers carrying minuscule payloads of water to fight the fires. Can anyone clear this up?
Reminds me of my heat transfer course, where'd we'd get Celsius degrees mixed with inches. They apparently thought Farenheit was a real bad unit for calculations, but I guess they couldn't go the extra mile and kept using inches instead of using millimeters or meters.
In the PC world your expected to buy a new computer every 2 years, in the mac world thats not the case.
I'll bite. The PC users that need to buy computers every 2 years are the bleeding edge gamers that need to play the most recent games with everything turned on and with 60 fps. You don't see that with the apple crowd because the vast majority of the cutting edge "buy a new video card" games do not come out for Mac (this is not flamebait, this is the cold hard truth).
The two closes friends that are *not* gaming maniacs that I know have respectively a pentium 733 and a pentium 200, and they have no problems doing all their term papers for university. My parents have a custom system that I built for pennies with a 1 GHz Athlon three years ago and it's still way more power then they'll ever need. My father figures he's good for 4 more years. The computers at my old workplace were Pentium II 400-700Mhz, about 12 of them. Only one desktop was above 1 GHz.
In the Extreme gaming world (which Apple is not a part of anyway), you have to buy a computer every 2 years, in the normal users world (PC or mac) that's not the case.
The bushes are a rich family, closely tied to the political power in the states. Georges is a war-dodging, deserting, coke-sniffing drunk driving son of that family. He's been given baseball teams, oil companies and now the presidency of the United States (by his father's old friends, and his relatives running the state of florida). While you were working hard in school trying to get yourself the employability to possibly make 80k a year sometime, Georges Bush was drinking beer and snorting coke knowing that daddy would give him a company that would generate millions of dollards per year for him.
How did you not see the connection? The details are different, but the principles are the same. Children of the families controlling power in states get rich, US or China, no difference. From the census bureau for 2002, the median texan family income is 40,659$. In contrast, Bush made 18.4 million in 1998 when the Texas Rangers were sold, from an investment of 600 000 when he bought in the deal. I couldn't fish up how much money he netted from his old oil company, but it probably dwarfs that.
The first car I bought was a 1992 Acura Integra, I sold it years ago. It weighted 1100kg and had 130hp. The rated top speed was 207kph, and I can confirm that the fuel cut off (beyond red line) in 5th speed really was at aleast 205kph (128 mph).
My current car has a rated top speed of 224kph, but I have yet to confirm this. Anyways, 1200kg and 130hp is more then enough to hit 88mph. Hell, an '89 civic has less then 100 hp and it can hit 170kph (~105mph). You just have to keep in mind that a small car has a small frontal area and needs much less power to go at high speeds.
In the words of Keanu : "Woah". Recently there's about 1 story per week that mentions it in the story body (the one you see in the front page, not the comments).
As far as I can remember, Ogg Vorbis as been covered on the slashdot since they started working on it years ago. The first Ogg Vorbis story was posted on/. FOUR years ago, the anniversary was 9 days ago.
I won't buy anything unless it cost money.
Too bad "A CLUE" is free and you couldn't buy one. Or did you just create an account here to flame someone for the hell of it?
Can someone behind a firewall/router call you using that VOIP software? The one reason I started using skype is that my other software didn't work from behind my d-ling router.
Don't bother arguing speed, saying that the powerbook is years behind in MHz, etc. The powerbook is just better optimized to use less power and run longer.
Don't worry, I stopped arguing with mac users back in 1997. I could mention that AMD and Intel also have low-power cpus, but I won't. I could also find a few laptop that beat the powerbook in battery life and processing power, but I won't.
That's like this friend I used to have. When we had arguments, it was never a matter of finding the best answer, it was a matter of him justifying *his* answer, and the argument would never stop before you agreed with him or just stopped talking to him.
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No offense tonyray, but selling computers at your shop doesn't make you an ISP just because those computers can get on the internet.
Having actually worked for a mid-size ISP (~180 000 broadband subscribers when I left three years ago, a little less dial-up users then that), and having dealt with roughly 6000 tech support calls in that period (mostly part-time), I call BS on saying that Linux users cause far more problems is pure FUD.
It was not officially supported, but most calls from Linux users ended in about 2 minutes after giving them our DNS servers, mail and smtp servers, and checking if their cable modem was functionning normally on the network. It's a longshot to declare that the majority of your supposed linux users have been hacked too.
Wouldn't nuking Redmond be a better investment then killing worm writers?
For the umpteenth time, it is NOT thef, it's copyright infringement. There is a difference, one that is often totally ignored by people claiming the moral high ground.
Painting a clean surface of metal with a coat of primer and then a coat of paint is not like painting a wooden fence. The paint won't start cracking next spring. Just go look at a painted I-beams used in building bridges, they are out there in the weather and the paint does not peel and flake off.
Ok, I have to admit I'm scared of bees (yeah, yeah, laugh), but did you just walk up to 500 bees, in plain clothes and start spraying them? Didn't you end up with dozens of stings?
Well, at least Jim Carrey found a new job, you should be happy for him.
Did you happen to see a bunch of guys with plasma cutters working around the wings?
You're probably looking at the very very least 5 million just in salary you'll pay to welders. Having ~70 industrial workers on site at a paper mill for a 2 week shutdown can run you above 500k easily. Now quadruple that for intense construction, and calculate a good 8-12 months of having them around. But that's just for time, now you gotta buy all the equipment.
Building a new boiler for a paper mill is something around 125-150 million $. That's just one boiler. Some big refineries sites have three or more power boilers, and that's just a drop in a huge sea.
If those plants were very cheap, I'd guess they'd cost about 300-400 million, putting your figure of oil independance at 3-4 trillion $, just to build the plants.
Surgical masks are more about keeping things "in" then keeping them "out". When someone's abdomen is opened and all the organs are exposed, you don't want whatever is inside the doctor's and nurse's mouth to get a free ride to vital organs.
Hey Grub, I'm really into computer games. What computer should I buy?
Bombardier CL415
Check the description and FAQ here.
Retrofitting a 747 for firefighting? Why not buy a plane designed from the ground off for firefighting purposes? It can drop 32000 to 65000 gallons of water between refueling. In real life situation it has proven to be able to deliver up to 30 000 gallons per hour.
Ever since I was a kid I'd seen videos of CL215 (the predecessor) fighting the big forest fires, and I was always wondering why the US used small choppers carrying minuscule payloads of water to fight the fires. Can anyone clear this up?
Reminds me of my heat transfer course, where'd we'd get Celsius degrees mixed with inches. They apparently thought Farenheit was a real bad unit for calculations, but I guess they couldn't go the extra mile and kept using inches instead of using millimeters or meters.
Wouldn't it be easier to just use sharks mounted with lasers on their friggin' heads?
In the PC world your expected to buy a new computer every 2 years, in the mac world thats not the case.
I'll bite. The PC users that need to buy computers every 2 years are the bleeding edge gamers that need to play the most recent games with everything turned on and with 60 fps. You don't see that with the apple crowd because the vast majority of the cutting edge "buy a new video card" games do not come out for Mac (this is not flamebait, this is the cold hard truth).
The two closes friends that are *not* gaming maniacs that I know have respectively a pentium 733 and a pentium 200, and they have no problems doing all their term papers for university. My parents have a custom system that I built for pennies with a 1 GHz Athlon three years ago and it's still way more power then they'll ever need. My father figures he's good for 4 more years. The computers at my old workplace were Pentium II 400-700Mhz, about 12 of them. Only one desktop was above 1 GHz.
In the Extreme gaming world (which Apple is not a part of anyway), you have to buy a computer every 2 years, in the normal users world (PC or mac) that's not the case.
The bushes are a rich family, closely tied to the political power in the states. Georges is a war-dodging, deserting, coke-sniffing drunk driving son of that family. He's been given baseball teams, oil companies and now the presidency of the United States (by his father's old friends, and his relatives running the state of florida). While you were working hard in school trying to get yourself the employability to possibly make 80k a year sometime, Georges Bush was drinking beer and snorting coke knowing that daddy would give him a company that would generate millions of dollards per year for him.
How did you not see the connection? The details are different, but the principles are the same. Children of the families controlling power in states get rich, US or China, no difference. From the census bureau for 2002, the median texan family income is 40,659$. In contrast, Bush made 18.4 million in 1998 when the Texas Rangers were sold, from an investment of 600 000 when he bought in the deal. I couldn't fish up how much money he netted from his old oil company, but it probably dwarfs that.
The first car I bought was a 1992 Acura Integra, I sold it years ago. It weighted 1100kg and had 130hp. The rated top speed was 207kph, and I can confirm that the fuel cut off (beyond red line) in 5th speed really was at aleast 205kph (128 mph).
My current car has a rated top speed of 224kph, but I have yet to confirm this. Anyways, 1200kg and 130hp is more then enough to hit 88mph. Hell, an '89 civic has less then 100 hp and it can hit 170kph (~105mph). You just have to keep in mind that a small car has a small frontal area and needs much less power to go at high speeds.
Fruitcake, do you even READ slashdot from time to time? Hey, let's do a search on slashdot for ogg+vorbis.
/. FOUR years ago, the anniversary was 9 days ago.
In the words of Keanu : "Woah". Recently there's about 1 story per week that mentions it in the story body (the one you see in the front page, not the comments).
As far as I can remember, Ogg Vorbis as been covered on the slashdot since they started working on it years ago. The first Ogg Vorbis story was posted on
I won't buy anything unless it cost money.
Too bad "A CLUE" is free and you couldn't buy one. Or did you just create an account here to flame someone for the hell of it?
Any chance that a marine museum would have rare sea weeds from say, Hawaii?
If ignorance is bliss, Slashdot must be nirvana.
So CmdrTaco really is Kurt Cobain!
Yeah, but when's the last time someone got ripped to shreads by a shark on a segway?
That's what I'm saying, I was asking if his other program was able to do it.
Can someone behind a firewall/router call you using that VOIP software? The one reason I started using skype is that my other software didn't work from behind my d-ling router.
"Woah dude, check you the whammy bar on the Stratovarius!"
So wait, we'd have to pay for the privilege of giving you money for it? Where do I sign up?
Talk to my lawyer, but if he starts talking about Chewbacca just hang up.
Don't bother arguing speed, saying that the powerbook is years behind in MHz, etc. The powerbook is just better optimized to use less power and run longer.
Don't worry, I stopped arguing with mac users back in 1997. I could mention that AMD and Intel also have low-power cpus, but I won't. I could also find a few laptop that beat the powerbook in battery life and processing power, but I won't.
That's like this friend I used to have. When we had arguments, it was never a matter of finding the best answer, it was a matter of him justifying *his* answer, and the argument would never stop before you agreed with him or just stopped talking to him.