not sure what part you're referring to exactly. if you do an allinurl:yourdomain.com and someotherdomain.com/whatever?whatever.com comes up with your exact title and description, isn't that what page jacking is?
another place i mentioned allinurl is here, but i think that's right too.
or are you talking about one of the pages i link to from the story?
lemme know (email, whatever...) you think is wrong and i'll see if i can't get it corrected.
of course, some just have to take your word for it, but i've heard it from other sources too.
in fact, i think i've learned *a lot* today.;)
re: the k5 article - cool. thanks. i'll try to see if an editor will let me change it later tonight. (and i admit that piece was a bit 'out there' too, although i tried my hardest to be objective for the most part...)
when you go from 7k to 700 visits a day, you start to lash out at things. i think i may have found the real cause of the problem, though. someone was DOSing my site and taking it down. i think Googlebot was trying to hit me before the server could come back up and maybe i got put on an 'unreliable server' list?
in any case, i'm looking into PPC and other options to spread things out some.
thanks again. please don't hold my foolishness against me.;)
personally, i'm ready to give up google maps or something else (autolink?) if they would 'fix' this or at least be more transparent about what's going on.;)
btw, the word on the net is that the googleguy posting here isn't the real one. anybody have details on this?
Isn't that kind of like saying because someone has an email (a method for submitting data), it's okay to spam?
Plus, think of the numbers. If people are selling this 'service,' it's bound to have a negative effect on the overall quality of the web features like this offer.
what if it's an electromagnetic bomb and the power gets fried everywhere? that almost scares me more than a biological weapon. can you imagine a major city with all the power fried?
it's called the GoogleDance - the shifting effect during the monthly update.
also, though, there is a new 'minty fresh' bot crawling some sites frequently for fresh relevant content. so, some pages are added (daily?) to the index, causing it to change a little (everflux, they're calling it...)
http://www.mallasch.com/journalism/search.php?qu er y=google
why don't *most* companies pay overtime then? i've worked so many hours for 'free' at my company that it's not even funny.
i read (somewhere/sometime) that some employers don't mind the occasional online banking or email to make up for all the time employees devote to a company (hoping they don't tank like Enron, etc...)
CEOs make at least a hundred times more than the average worker and they want to read our email too? something's just not right with the system... and they say slavery is dead...
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I agree. You need a way to separate the wheat from the chaff. And considering they're doing it w/out much human intervention, I think they're doing great.
Would be nice if they re-indexed more than once a month, though. (Although I've noticed some of their listings changing day to day the last few days...)
Of course they're not perfect, but Google is doing some very cool things. Of late I've been finding myself using their news.google.com more and more. I just wish they archived more and you could search back further.
An interesting concept, though, to have an algo 'create' a 'top news' page rather than a human editor (ala Yahoo News).
In fact, w/out a human editor it may eventually become more 'Fair and Balanced' (unlike some of the spin stations...)
Is interesting sometimes to see Google News show headlines for the same story from different news organizations. Sometimes you can clearly see their 'slant' from the wording of the headline.
It's still relatively new, though. Now the people with the real ideas will start stepping up to the plate (I hope), especially in the online news arena.
Big companies today think just throwing a lot of money at a problem will solve it. They don't realize yet (especially newspapers), that you have to use the medium to its best advantages. Slapping paper product copy on the web just won't cut it.
I think the small guy still has a chance with this thing they call the Internet.
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thanks. it's not any of those. it's a link directory script pointing to my site.
i'll try the above title trick to see if it shows in site:domain.com as well...
i didn't see it in the first few hundred of a site:domain.com
what's the other explanation for another URL having my title, description and cache?
when i run a header check on it, it shows a 302 redirect then 200.
in this case, i think the other person doesn't know using 302 isn't correct (ie. it's a link collection script...)
is there another explanation?
-kpaul
thanks again.
it was just odd to see another URL with my title and description (and an old cache). allinurl: was the only way i saw it, though.
what explains another URL having my title and description and cache?
this, i thought, was what being pagejacked meant - a different URL with your exact title, description and a cache of your site.
i think mostly it's the other URL (not my domain) having a cache of my page is what weirds me out.
i'll email again, though.
-kpaul
it was earlier - for about 15 minutes maybe.
i'd say it was my end, but other sites were coming up fine.
it kept timing out on me.
-kpaul
not sure what part you're referring to exactly. if you do an allinurl:yourdomain.com and someotherdomain.com/whatever?whatever.com comes up with your exact title and description, isn't that what page jacking is?
another place i mentioned allinurl is here, but i think that's right too.
or are you talking about one of the pages i link to from the story?
lemme know (email, whatever...) you think is wrong and i'll see if i can't get it corrected.
thanks again,
kpaul
of course, some just have to take your word for it, but i've heard it from other sources too.
;)
;)
in fact, i think i've learned *a lot* today.
re: the k5 article - cool. thanks. i'll try to see if an editor will let me change it later tonight. (and i admit that piece was a bit 'out there' too, although i tried my hardest to be objective for the most part...)
when you go from 7k to 700 visits a day, you start to lash out at things. i think i may have found the real cause of the problem, though. someone was DOSing my site and taking it down. i think Googlebot was trying to hit me before the server could come back up and maybe i got put on an 'unreliable server' list?
in any case, i'm looking into PPC and other options to spread things out some.
thanks again. please don't hold my foolishness against me.
-kpaul (the real one)
here's my write-up on the problem from early February called Google and the Mysterious Case of the 1969 Pagejackers. the problem has been around for a long, long time.
;)
personally, i'm ready to give up google maps or something else (autolink?) if they would 'fix' this or at least be more transparent about what's going on.
btw, the word on the net is that the googleguy posting here isn't the real one. anybody have details on this?
-kpaul
Stupid Toggers - all they want is Google Juice!
Isn't that kind of like saying because someone has an email (a method for submitting data), it's okay to spam?
Plus, think of the numbers. If people are selling this 'service,' it's bound to have a negative effect on the overall quality of the web features like this offer.
I've taken their donate buttons off my site, but want to wait to see what their reaction to this is if they have one at all.
Who knows if this story might make it to the mainstream press too.
...to bring the power to the masses.
while HTML is very easily learned, most people won't take the time.
more stock art ... ;)
...you're trying to lie. Would you like some help? ;)
what will happen as more people wander onto the web?
more pleas from somewhere in africa about needing your bank acct number to load it up with millions of dollars.
maybe a 'comeback' of the blinking text tag as millions of new users who never experienced the horror can experience the horror.
what if it's an electromagnetic bomb and the power gets fried everywhere? that almost scares me more than a biological weapon. can you imagine a major city with all the power fried?
exactly! this needs to be said more.
of course, sadly, there will always be the hucksters with the get rich quick schemes...
in the end, as google matures, i'm sure it will continue to be about the content...
maybe they need to switch to crows or something...
l
http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.htm
they had to get rid of the googleBomb. i'm sure results will be more in tune as the month progresses...
it's called the GoogleDance - the shifting effect during the monthly update.
u er y=google
also, though, there is a new 'minty fresh' bot crawling some sites frequently for fresh relevant content. so, some pages are added (daily?) to the index, causing it to change a little (everflux, they're calling it...)
http://www.mallasch.com/journalism/search.php?q
Nobody would ever accidentally type those 4 keys And what about the million monkeys typing away on a million microsoft keyboards??
with their news tool you can sort by date, which is nice.
maybe sort by 'last modified' or even a sort by negative/postive (that might be a tricky algo, though...)
i've always wanted to be able to see what a search term ranks when I use 'search within these' results also...
why don't *most* companies pay overtime then? i've worked so many hours for 'free' at my company that it's not even funny.
i read (somewhere/sometime) that some employers don't mind the occasional online banking or email to make up for all the time employees devote to a company (hoping they don't tank like Enron, etc...)
CEOs make at least a hundred times more than the average worker and they want to read our email too? something's just not right with the system... and they say slavery is dead...
I agree. You need a way to separate the wheat from the chaff. And considering they're doing it w/out much human intervention, I think they're doing great.
Would be nice if they re-indexed more than once a month, though. (Although I've noticed some of their listings changing day to day the last few days...)
Of course they're not perfect, but Google is doing some very cool things. Of late I've been finding myself using their news.google.com more and more. I just wish they archived more and you could search back further.
An interesting concept, though, to have an algo 'create' a 'top news' page rather than a human editor (ala Yahoo News).
In fact, w/out a human editor it may eventually become more 'Fair and Balanced' (unlike some of the spin stations...)
Is interesting sometimes to see Google News show headlines for the same story from different news organizations. Sometimes you can clearly see their 'slant' from the wording of the headline.
Keep up the good work Google.
Big companies today think just throwing a lot of money at a problem will solve it. They don't realize yet (especially newspapers), that you have to use the medium to its best advantages. Slapping paper product copy on the web just won't cut it.
I think the small guy still has a chance with this thing they call the Internet.
At least I hope so.
Amazon's not making money are they?