we have prison systems in the United States that have programs for inmates to work and they undercut market prices... thus putting the people outside of the prison out of jobs (and therefore unable to provide food for their families while prisoners are garunteed rations etc), naturally because it is the gov't that benefits, the prison gets to keep the money, they pay the inmates pennies and none of it is illegal (because, in theory, the inmates volunteer)
as result the gun is still held it's just held to the head of the legitimate worker who is now out of work by the gov't (subsidized by you and essentially captive labor)
just because someone volunteers doesn't mean there is no tyranny, that's why we have unions and they don't (no there aren't unions in prision afaik)
i will check tvguide.com in a minute.. i haven't watched tv in months but that does sound at least worth having on in the background
remember America makes nothing anymore, our only export is culture, virtually every industry focuses around services. Once our culture fails to interest the people outside *we* will be relegated to the third world and the third worlds will have us as their low-paid wage slaves and I doubt they will have any more mercy for us than we have had for them.
the quote gives the implication that to get the motor cars and whatnot one must 'attain their fullest stature'... maybe when we read between the lines we see something different, it wasn't a troll shot.
i'm an unemployed college drop out in indianapolis, if you have tits, intelligence, w33d or any of the three my email address is real and steak and shake is always open
Japan was rebuilt by the United States, and does not maintain as much of a military there as we do. They were re-created in our image, we even gave their women civil rights which they had not had previously (seriously pissing off a lot of Japanese).
As for the other point, no matter how much you increase productivity that doesn't eliminate the fact that what is produced hits a limit of available resources for that product and thereafter the product ceases to be produced.
Unproductive workers in 3rd world countries? Check the labels on the products you buy.
South Korea is about to become a smoking hole in the ground when North Korea decides to pull a Nike and Just Do It... if our war on _____ hasn't kicked open the WWIII powder keg and held a match to it the Korean Problem certainly will.
Is humanity better off as a whole? No. the just isolated segment, with resources, in which YOU live; this allows for the rose-colored distortion of the downtrodden because you are the beneficiary. I know this because I sit in an affluent area right now myself and I know many people like you who seek to justify their existence therein by shrugging off starving nations with a "it's their fault" in some form.
taxes have been and were unconstitutional for a long long time, the original income tax was raised to pay for war
and never repealed.. like so many other stupid laws we have
Americans have created the steaming shit hole gov't we under by their own complacency
people didn't care when it went from writing checks to having them take it out of their paychecks
they didnt' care when the original tax of ONE percent was levied (and considered outrageously high then, we're tlaking revolutionary war days here) and no caps were put on it because they never thought it would get higher, much less where it is now
and all long before I or most of the people who post here were born
the bottomline is people don't care until it affects their DAILY LIVES *NOT* THEIR POCKETBOOK
and by then, of course, it's too late
mod me troll/flamebait, at least i'm not afraid to express my opinion and snipe anonymously from behind my mod points
no one can have something without taking it away from someone else first
need proof? ask your gov't they're the best working example
they hold a gun to your head for welfare for medicaid for tax breaks for the already stinking rich etc etc
there is no free lunch even linux isn't free, the people who write it are giving up the time and effort they put into the code which they could have put into something else (this is called the opportunity cost)
did you even read the quote which you posted? here let me highlight something for you
"...that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone...not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable..."
now you say that people should be able to attain their fullest stature "but not at the expense of others"
how do you think America go to be where it is today? where do you suppose all of the things that allow for our quality of life comes from? that's right they come from other countries, so while you enjoy hte availability (not that you necessarily have the means to buy them) of everything from cheap clothes to cheap food to cheap toys remember that almost all of that comes from countries where the people who make them are living well below your standard...
everything costs something at the expense of others, it's a fact of our existence, if i eat an apple you can't eat it too (unless you're into some weird scat practices i won't go into)
and that line about attaining the fullest stature of which they're innately capable? nice and communist (from each each according to ability to each according to need, sound familiar?)
why don't we have the gov't let all the subsidized (that's paid-so-you-don't-grow-shit-and-fuck-up-our-"freem arket" for those you outside the US) farmers grow their crops and ship those
hell lets ship the farmers instead and teach the people how to feed themselves, etc
teach a man to fish and all that
and i still stick by my first post in this thread, we should be helping our own people first and then theirs
who think that every peasant has enough for wifi, because shit they have 3 kids ranging from 10 to 20 and they all have cellphones pc's cars and college educations pending/in effect and their biggest concern is whether or not Sopranos will run another season while half the world starves
Personally I think we need to take care of our own country first, we have lots and lots of homeless starving people many of them turned out of closed mental institutions who need actual help instead of spending billions on foreign aid, for any reason much less to give some fucking cattle farmer a wireless connection (hell even I own nothing wireless, except a cordless phone)
this is ludicrous, and not the kind with the sticky icky icky =)
to hack out a ppp script that worked when i was slackware newb back in '95
and i was so happy i got on bx and got on irc..
and i thought iw as the l33t3st thing around (i was 15 in '95;))
but it was practically useless beyond that.. i ran console only for a long time
if you think linux's learning curve is steep now, i tused to be like staring up a 15 mile high 90 degree angled glacier with only your chewed fingers nails with which to cling to the ice
having said that i wish i had found linux when i was writing.bat boot menus in ANSI color cause linux is everything DOS should have been and more and kids that get to have it to start with now are lucky indeed.
all you ahve to do is make a network boot disk you don't even need a cd
yea dselect sucks but any monkey who can read this can read the instrucions which are clearly printed and once you get the hang of it it's not so bad
people just dont' want to think about having to do anything anymore to quote Jurassic park, "God help us, we're in the hands of engineers" -- jeff goldbloom
i think i'd rather do it myself, but i'm curious as to what "the average user" is defined as
that back in the 19th century newspapers used to be one cent so newspaper companies would talk store owners into changing their prices so that people would end up with pennies and thus be tempted to drop them quickly on newspapers
i've also heard the psychological effect theory whereby your brain automatically looks at whole rounded numbers as more expensive or better quality or whatever.. (so sometimes you will see higher end things that end in rounded prices if they're for rich buyers) and that somehow 9.99 looks cheaper than $10
he clearly states that the Dell benchmarks are higher from using an optimized compiler and even makes a comparison to prove the point between the low apple score and the dell one which is double that... and he goes on about hyperthreading etc
if you're refering to the part where he's taking quotes of the veritest results pdf and showing where apple used G5 optimizations for their benchmarks etc well, does Dell have that kind of information even available about the desktop model he is talking about? my guess would be no since it's not there and this guy went out of his way to be thorough in every other aspect
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i didn't even know the anarchists cookbook was real book
and here i was d/l'n it from my favorite BBS
*those* were the days, toneloc and porn call back verifiers baby
we have prison systems in the United States that have programs for inmates to work and they undercut market prices... thus putting the people outside of the prison out of jobs (and therefore unable to provide food for their families while prisoners are garunteed rations etc), naturally because it is the gov't that benefits, the prison gets to keep the money, they pay the inmates pennies and none of it is illegal (because, in theory, the inmates volunteer)
as result the gun is still held it's just held to the head of the legitimate worker who is now out of work by the gov't (subsidized by you and essentially captive labor)
just because someone volunteers doesn't mean there is no tyranny, that's why we have unions and they don't (no there aren't unions in prision afaik)
i will check tvguide.com in a minute.. i haven't watched tv in months but that does sound at least worth having on in the background
remember America makes nothing anymore, our only export is culture, virtually every industry focuses around services. Once our culture fails to interest the people outside *we* will be relegated to the third world and the third worlds will have us as their low-paid wage slaves and I doubt they will have any more mercy for us than we have had for them.
the quote gives the implication that to get the motor cars and whatnot one must 'attain their fullest stature'... maybe when we read between the lines we see something different, it wasn't a troll shot.
i'm an unemployed college drop out in indianapolis, if you have tits, intelligence, w33d or any of the three my email address is real and steak and shake is always open
yea i'm that bored
Japan was rebuilt by the United States, and does not maintain as much of a military there as we do. They were re-created in our image, we even gave their women civil rights which they had not had previously (seriously pissing off a lot of Japanese).
As for the other point, no matter how much you increase productivity that doesn't eliminate the fact that what is produced hits a limit of available resources for that product and thereafter the product ceases to be produced.
Unproductive workers in 3rd world countries? Check the labels on the products you buy.
South Korea is about to become a smoking hole in the ground when North Korea decides to pull a Nike and Just Do It... if our war on _____ hasn't kicked open the WWIII powder keg and held a match to it the Korean Problem certainly will.
Is humanity better off as a whole? No. the just isolated segment, with resources, in which YOU live; this allows for the rose-colored distortion of the downtrodden because you are the beneficiary. I know this because I sit in an affluent area right now myself and I know many people like you who seek to justify their existence therein by shrugging off starving nations with a "it's their fault" in some form.
is that enough rant? =)
it
those fuckers still owe me $400 and have a collection agency after *me*
they used to be called cellular one and they were just as shady then
cell phone providers are modern snake oil salesmen with legal protection
taxes have been and were unconstitutional for a long long time, the original income tax was raised to pay for war
and never repealed.. like so many other stupid laws we have
Americans have created the steaming shit hole gov't we under by their own complacency
people didn't care when it went from writing checks to having them take it out of their paychecks
they didnt' care when the original tax of ONE percent was levied (and considered outrageously high then, we're tlaking revolutionary war days here) and no caps were put on it because they never thought it would get higher, much less where it is now
and all long before I or most of the people who post here were born
the bottomline is people don't care until it affects their DAILY LIVES *NOT* THEIR POCKETBOOK
and by then, of course, it's too late
mod me troll/flamebait, at least i'm not afraid to express my opinion and snipe anonymously from behind my mod points
no one can have something without taking it away from someone else first
need proof? ask your gov't they're the best working example
they hold a gun to your head for welfare for medicaid for tax breaks for the already stinking rich etc etc
there is no free lunch
even linux isn't free, the people who write it are giving up the time and effort they put into the code which they could have put into something else (this is called the opportunity cost)
did you even read the quote which you posted? here let me highlight something for you
"...that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone...not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable..."
now you say that people should be able to attain their fullest stature "but not at the expense of others"
how do you think America go to be where it is today? where do you suppose all of the things that allow for our quality of life comes from? that's right they come from other countries, so while you enjoy hte availability (not that you necessarily have the means to buy them) of everything from cheap clothes to cheap food to cheap toys remember that almost all of that comes from countries where the people who make them are living well below your standard...
everything costs something at the expense of others, it's a fact of our existence, if i eat an apple you can't eat it too (unless you're into some weird scat practices i won't go into)
and that line about attaining the fullest stature of which they're innately capable? nice and communist (from each each according to ability to each according to need, sound familiar?)
Vietnam and pre-era weapons laying around everywhere
might as well before some high level official sells them to our future enemies (again)
why don't we have the gov't let all the subsidized (that's paid-so-you-don't-grow-shit-and-fuck-up-our-"freem arket" for those you outside the US) farmers grow their crops and ship those
hell lets ship the farmers instead and teach the people how to feed themselves, etc
teach a man to fish and all that
and i still stick by my first post in this thread, we should be helping our own people first and then theirs
who think that every peasant has enough for wifi, because shit they have 3 kids ranging from 10 to 20 and they all have cellphones pc's cars and college educations pending/in effect and their biggest concern is whether or not Sopranos will run another season while half the world starves
Personally I think we need to take care of our own country first, we have lots and lots of homeless starving people many of them turned out of closed mental institutions who need actual help instead of spending billions on foreign aid, for any reason much less to give some fucking cattle farmer a wireless connection (hell even I own nothing wireless, except a cordless phone)
this is ludicrous, and not the kind with the sticky icky icky =)
while i've never used gentoo as a desktop i found the unreal 2003 demo that came bootable on a livecd something fun to play with
and having the ability to show off a nice game like that might help win some converts "ooooh pretty"
i've never tried knoppix but it seems like no one says anything bad about it
i'm kinda curious how it differs from debian if someone wants to give a quick rundown
to hack out a ppp script that worked when i was slackware newb back in '95
;))
.bat boot menus in ANSI color cause linux is everything DOS should have been and more and kids that get to have it to start with now are lucky indeed.
and i was so happy i got on bx and got on irc..
and i thought iw as the l33t3st thing around (i was 15 in '95
but it was practically useless beyond that.. i ran console only for a long time
if you think linux's learning curve is steep now, i tused to be like staring up a 15 mile high 90 degree angled glacier with only your chewed fingers nails with which to cling to the ice
having said that i wish i had found linux when i was writing
you post a lot, hell that makes 3 ofy our posts i've read just for this one article
and two of those are karma whores, well played ones, albeit
i started to read it and then i realized i dont' care
tom pabst rocks your socks in a box with a fox
i've bought lots of hardware solely on his word and i've yet to be disappointed
i wonder what it would take to knock off the rest
yea i'm a chauvanist (sp?) but i couldn't resist
all you ahve to do is make a network boot disk you don't even need a cd
yea dselect sucks but any monkey who can read this can read the instrucions which are clearly printed and once you get the hang of it it's not so bad
people just dont' want to think about having to do anything anymore
to quote Jurassic park, "God help us, we're in the hands of engineers" -- jeff goldbloom
i think i'd rather do it myself, but i'm curious as to what "the average user" is defined as
trillian works with yahoo and msn in addition to all those (save .mac afaik) by default
i wonder if he said anything useful
or just laughed his ass off on his way to the next 18 holes
what kind of card do you have? i have a pos gf4 mmx 440.. it was a "gift"
my xp pro desktop crashes at least once a day, mostly while playing ET and ripping an internet stream to mp3 while i listen to it
i get the exactly same lock up while playing halflife/CS occasionally
basically teh video freezes and the last sound playing repeats in an endless loop til it's shut off the hard way (power off)
i wish it would just crash a program waiting through a fs check every time is annoying (and even mroe so ify ou choose not to cause it comes back)
right click -> sort by file type
shift click pgdn copy paste
it's not that hard
now if you want to copy every file in the directory that matches a?c?e.txt you have a problem
i thought that was common knowledge ;P
that back in the 19th century newspapers used to be one cent so newspaper companies would talk store owners into changing their prices so that people would end up with pennies and thus be tempted to drop them quickly on newspapers
;)
i've also heard the psychological effect theory whereby your brain automatically looks at whole rounded numbers as more expensive or better quality or whatever.. (so sometimes you will see higher end things that end in rounded prices if they're for rich buyers) and that somehow 9.99 looks cheaper than $10
of course who knows if any of it is true
he clearly states that the Dell benchmarks are higher from using an optimized compiler and even makes a comparison to prove the point between the low apple score and the dell one which is double that... and he goes on about hyperthreading etc
if you're refering to the part where he's taking quotes of the veritest results pdf and showing where apple used G5 optimizations for their benchmarks etc well, does Dell have that kind of information even available about the desktop model he is talking about? my guess would be no since it's not there and this guy went out of his way to be thorough in every other aspect
those students are tech saavy and use something like trillian that has built in 128 bit encryption...
of course they might stick out a bit too
(insert subversive evil cable-theft voice)
unless all the clients use encryption and then you'll never know muhaha