The innocent should be able to beat this without too much effort, but it will sadly cost them a lot of money and time to prove their innocence.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE
what happened to being innocent until proven guilty? they ASSUME you are guilty by default and it is even legally enforced at $10,000 as other people have mentioned herein..
this doesn't even adress the fact that they b roadcast their signal through the air and it costs them NOTHING AT ALL for your equipment to be picking up the signals
so not only are you guilty by default but you also have no rights as to what's in the air in your own fucking house
that judge should be disbarred this is gross negligence on the part of the legal system which is supposed to protect people's rights not inflated corporate profit margins (as i recall it says by the people for the people not by corporations for the almighty dollar)
yea it's a rant, yea i'm totally unaffected by this but shit like this makes me want to move to Soviet Fucking Russia where at least the criminals aren't trying to shove (their) morality down your throat while they're extorting you and threatening your family.
perish the thought that one day the RIAA gets the ability to enforce their own copyrights or even worse that the gov't takes tehm seriously enough to devote some amount of law power to their assinine crusade to turn back the clock 10yeras when they could have done something about it
people talk about ip tracing, my question is how long does the typical ISP keep a list of what mac address got what ip? cuase if they keep none i can switch my ip daily and the RIAA will only know that a lot of people on my subnet (read a 12 or 15 mile radius at least around me) are using these services.. i would assume the average/.er knows not only how to change their ips but probably has more than one card they could use to do it.. yea i know that your cable modem has a set MAC but if there is no record of a lease after it's 'expired' how are they going to trace it back to your modem? also unlike ashcroft's nazi league of anti-terrorists the RIAA would most likely need to get subpoenas and a variety of other legal ducks in order before they woudl even be able to do anything about it
and all that tracking and lawyering is expensive.. i wonder how many people they will litigate before they bankrupt thsemlseves trying to get legal fees
i'm willing to bet that german p2pers could have lawsuits brought same as anyone else.. remember this is the age of the New World Order and One World gov't where there is no appeals process and only one world oligarchy run by the extremely rich err i mean 'democracy'
although i admit to not knowing anything at all about german law
if he had said, i'm so glad i created mp3's so that they would topple the music industry (pinky finger) don't you think he'd ahve RIAA lawyer's being airlifted by blackhawk to his house to litigate him and everything he owns into a smoking crater?
somehow i would have called his stance extremely predictable
btw i've had 2 long term relationships (6 years total) with virgins both of which turned sour when they eventually realized there were other cocks in the big wide world so good luck on that point as well
1 distribute "thumbnailed" music under fair use 2 ?? 3 profit (as defined by the RIAA, profit by not having lost the money you WOULD have spent on that $15 cd right?)
[I]With skimpy clothing, well sure, the girl's hot, but there's nothing to whet the 'ole imaginative appetite on.[/I]
i'd rather have something wet to sate that appetite with than imagining what it would be like
and you can still have sex with your clothes on so why complain? (so can she, personally i like going under clothes, my ex used to never wear panties which while it sounds sexy at first gets old so i understand what you mean)
it's not like anyone forces them to use CD's for distribution, they could come up with their own propreitary players and formats and whatnot
re-tooling the industry is their problem
the gov't shouldn't enforce anything for them ISP's shouldn't have to give out customer informatin to anyone unless they want to etc
the only people they have a legitimate claim against are the ones who are making cd's and re-selling them as originals (asia) for which they are actually losing *REAL* sales (pepole who DID ACTUALLY PUT DOWN THE MONEY instead of the RIAA claiming they would have)
the whole thing is insane.. and it's sad that America has become the bastion for these litigious fuckwitted assclowns
now how many people have totalitarian dictatorships killed under the guise of democracy/communism/facism/out right contempt for everyone but the monarch?
now you tell me which one holds more weight in my opinion, one human life is worth an infinite amount of pirated mp3's/books/porn/media
everything is Coke, long live the One True Beverage (sieg heil, pepsi still sucks even with a half naked marilyn monbritney)
it's not corporate takeover of english, it's english's takeover of the corporate name and it's adaptation to it's common useage
since when did you have to pay a licensing fee to Xerox every time you talk about making copies of your resume? (although I'm sure there are many factions in corporate whoredom who would like you to, like the DRM enabled answering machine ideas you see floating around here... maybe people should be inserted with brainwave monitoring devices as children so they can be automatically charged for thinking about copywritten materials;))
i've worked that friendly neighborhood computer store
and i would rather pay for a dell than overpay 4x for an already outdated used machine
trust friendly they are not, they're 2x as vicious as any oem because they have to be to survive.. they regularly lie thier asses off, grossly underpay for anything they buy and regularly fuck everyoen who comes in the door over
i've worked for 2 different small computer stores and both worked the same way
criminal? case in point, my best friend (yes the same one who got fucked by the Apple store if you read that post) is being chased by ebay/paypal right now, why you ask? because he sold a $2k laptop on ebay, what he didn't know was the asshole who bought it was using a stolen card so he took the money and now they're saying he's liable for the damages.. he's talked with several other people in other states who have been fucked over by the same guy.. i wonder if that guy got his information by doing something like this (he's been using stolen account information including CC#'s to rip people off all over the country from New Jersey)
(there is actually a bit more detail to this story, the guy thought the laptop was mine because i was trying to help my friend sell it so he was actually trying to fuck me over as he's the friend of an IRC enemy.. yes sometimes the real and virtual world battles bleed together)
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THIS IS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE
what happened to being innocent until proven guilty? they ASSUME you are guilty by default and it is even legally enforced at $10,000 as other people have mentioned herein..
this doesn't even adress the fact that they b roadcast their signal through the air and it costs them NOTHING AT ALL for your equipment to be picking up the signals
so not only are you guilty by default but you also have no rights as to what's in the air in your own fucking house
that judge should be disbarred this is gross negligence on the part of the legal system which is supposed to protect people's rights not inflated corporate profit margins (as i recall it says by the people for the people not by corporations for the almighty dollar)
yea it's a rant, yea i'm totally unaffected by this but shit like this makes me want to move to Soviet Fucking Russia where at least the criminals aren't trying to shove (their) morality down your throat while they're extorting you and threatening your family.
and a schitzophrenic
perish the thought that one day the RIAA gets the ability to enforce their own copyrights or even worse that the gov't takes tehm seriously enough to devote some amount of law power to their assinine crusade to turn back the clock 10yeras when they could have done something about it
/.er knows not only how to change their ips but probably has more than one card they could use to do it .. yea i know that your cable modem has a set MAC but if there is no record of a lease after it's 'expired' how are they going to trace it back to your modem? also unlike ashcroft's nazi league of anti-terrorists the RIAA would most likely need to get subpoenas and a variety of other legal ducks in order before they woudl even be able to do anything about it
people talk about ip tracing, my question is how long does the typical ISP keep a list of what mac address got what ip? cuase if they keep none i can switch my ip daily and the RIAA will only know that a lot of people on my subnet (read a 12 or 15 mile radius at least around me) are using these services.. i would assume the average
and all that tracking and lawyering is expensive.. i wonder how many people they will litigate before they bankrupt thsemlseves trying to get legal fees
too bad you got marked troll cause you have a legitmate point
and pottery wheels are always funny
like ducks
you act like americans odn't sell music there
and that germans don't have similar laws
i'm willing to bet that german p2pers could have lawsuits brought same as anyone else.. remember this is the age of the New World Order and One World gov't where there is no appeals process and only one world oligarchy run by the extremely rich err i mean 'democracy'
although i admit to not knowing anything at all about german law
if he had said, i'm so glad i created mp3's so that they would topple the music industry (pinky finger) don't you think he'd ahve RIAA lawyer's being airlifted by blackhawk to his house to litigate him and everything he owns into a smoking crater?
somehow i would have called his stance extremely predictable
how long have you been married?
btw i've had 2 long term relationships (6 years total) with virgins both of which turned sour when they eventually realized there were other cocks in the big wide world so good luck on that point as well
yes but in ashcroft land there is no ON
only protected mode for the upperclass elite
1 distribute "thumbnailed" music under fair use
2 ??
3 profit (as defined by the RIAA, profit by not having lost the money you WOULD have spent on that $15 cd right?)
fuck the riaa today
[I]With skimpy clothing, well sure, the girl's hot, but there's nothing to whet the 'ole imaginative appetite on.[/I]
i'd rather have something wet to sate that appetite with than imagining what it would be like
and you can still have sex with your clothes on so why complain? (so can she, personally i like going under clothes, my ex used to never wear panties which while it sounds sexy at first gets old so i understand what you mean)
it's not like anyone forces them to use CD's for distribution, they could come up with their own propreitary players and formats and whatnot
re-tooling the industry is their problem
the gov't shouldn't enforce anything for them
ISP's shouldn't have to give out customer informatin to anyone unless they want to etc
the only people they have a legitimate claim against are the ones who are making cd's and re-selling them as originals (asia) for which they are actually losing *REAL* sales (pepole who DID ACTUALLY PUT DOWN THE MONEY instead of the RIAA claiming they would have)
the whole thing is insane.. and it's sad that America has become the bastion for these litigious fuckwitted assclowns
if it saves a billion lives is it worth it?
how many people have pirated mp3's killed?
now how many people have totalitarian dictatorships killed under the guise of democracy/communism/facism/out right contempt for everyone but the monarch?
now you tell me which one holds more weight
in my opinion, one human life is worth an infinite amount of pirated mp3's/books/porn/media
the only decent band listed there is chili peppers and they should know better.. hell their entire carefully crafted image is around carefreeness
metallica is absolute shit, hell i got their new album from kazaa and it sucked horribly, but i kept it up anyway just to piss them off
green day has always sucked and hasn't even written anything new since i was in highschool (i graduated in 98)
linkin park wants to be metallica
conclusion? no loss, let them fuck themselves out of existence they deserve nothing less
where teh majority votes with their dollars into congressional pockets
this is why we are supposed to be a republic.. but i wont' get into that rant again just check the link in my sig
i wouldn't know, i haven't paid for an OS since win 3.1 came on my compaq 486
but xp pro is good on my desk
openbsd on my server
debian when i have machines that haven't been kept by a horrid backstabbing bitch of an ex-g/f
to each his own, nice troll though, i see why you posted anon
enough said
i just got to the triangle of disparity and laughed outloud
there should be somewhere we can add to this
there has to be *some* way to cleanse us of all that ashcroft hath wrought
i wonder if part of that comes from the fact that Victoria refers to an English queen instead of a made up product name...
everything is Coke, long live the One True Beverage (sieg heil, pepsi still sucks even with a half naked marilyn monbritney)
;))
it's not corporate takeover of english, it's english's takeover of the corporate name and it's adaptation to it's common useage
since when did you have to pay a licensing fee to Xerox every time you talk about making copies of your resume? (although I'm sure there are many factions in corporate whoredom who would like you to, like the DRM enabled answering machine ideas you see floating around here... maybe people should be inserted with brainwave monitoring devices as children so they can be automatically charged for thinking about copywritten materials
once your trademark has been openly infringed on in Congress you know it's mainstream and you're fucked
they missed the boat on this by a good 5-6 years
no judge will enforce this now
on an aircraft carrier all the planes have folding wings to fit in better too
it's not just the carrier it's what goes into it
same principle here
Apple controls *everything* that goes into their notebooks.. Toshiba just works existing parts into their design
jesus carried floppies you heretic
i've worked that friendly neighborhood computer store
and i would rather pay for a dell than overpay 4x for an already outdated used machine
trust friendly they are not, they're 2x as vicious as any oem because they have to be to survive.. they regularly lie thier asses off, grossly underpay for anything they buy and regularly fuck everyoen who comes in the door over
i've worked for 2 different small computer stores and both worked the same way
criminal? case in point, my best friend (yes the same one who got fucked by the Apple store if you read that post) is being chased by ebay/paypal right now, why you ask? because he sold a $2k laptop on ebay, what he didn't know was the asshole who bought it was using a stolen card so he took the money and now they're saying he's liable for the damages.. he's talked with several other people in other states who have been fucked over by the same guy.. i wonder if that guy got his information by doing something like this (he's been using stolen account information including CC#'s to rip people off all over the country from New Jersey)
(there is actually a bit more detail to this story, the guy thought the laptop was mine because i was trying to help my friend sell it so he was actually trying to fuck me over as he's the friend of an IRC enemy.. yes sometimes the real and virtual world battles bleed together)