Last time I checked, Firefox was still open source software. If they're not fixing bugs fast enough for your liking, by all means, download the source and fix them yourself. That's not meant as a smart-ass excuse for not fixing a bug, but the article's author says:
This is such an elitist position and really hurts both opensource in general and Firefox specifically. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that a large marjority of Firefox users, myself included, don't have either the chops nor the time to gain the chops to fix bugs. Also, even if I had the chops to fix bugs, I don't have the time to get familiar with the source tree to be effective. It's not like debuging is a 5 minute deal.
I updated to FF 2.0 and downgraded to 1.5 wihtin a few days because 2.0 kept freezing and crashing and to be honest, I didn't seem any new features that made upgrading compelling.
Now I think FF is a GREAT browser, I use it all the time and only revert to IE when I have to. And I have themed it and added extensions. I reccomend it to friends and spread the word. But, yeah, I have to agree, 2.0 was less than I had hoped for.
However, I also want to sincerly thank for Mozilla Foundation and any volunteers working on the Mozilla projects for all their effort because people like me can't build this stuff.
Rememeber in the movie when the coucil was discussing what to do with the ring, and Frodo stepped up? Nest thing ya know, there's Aragorn offering him is sword. Sorry, but that just brings up a Beavis and Butt-head giggle everytime.
if I plant a really beautiful garden that raises the value of property in the neighbourhood, will you give me a percentage of your house sale?
Let's give a real-world example. Let's say there is a neighborhood where all the houses are equal in appearance and value, perhaps 10%, regardless of market movement (ie, if the market goes up, all the houses go up, etc). Now let's change the neighbor hood.
say that one house becomes run down, gets painted an ugly color, hell, it get's sliced up into a multi-tenant building.
say that one house is beautified, new paint, pretty gardens, just smashing.
My bet is that house #1 will have a larger negative effect on the houing prices in the neighborhood than the positive effect of house #2 because an eyesore sticks in peoples minds, is repulsive, and may indicate that a neighborhood is deteriorating. No one wants to deal with an eyesore. House #2, however, will look nice and may raise it's value higher than said 10%, but other houses in the neighborhood will remain even because a pretty neighbors house doesn't really add value to mine. Now, if more houses were beautified, then house values would rise because that indicates a "nice" neighborhood is growing.
In really run-down neighborhoods in cities, that is called gentrification, and usually a group of people will by run-down property en-masse (cheaply) hoping to create a groundswell growth and desireability. The higher property values push out lower income residents who can't afford the higher costs (taxes, buying new property, etc). It's interesting to note that in countries that don't have property taxes, you see run-down shacks sitting next to multi-million dollar homes because neighborhoods aren't gentrified as easily.
So why should neighbors have a say in what you can do to your property? Becuase your actions impact thier property values to a greater or lesser extent.
By default, Tor logs to the screen (it's called "standard out", or "stdout" for short) at log-level notice. However, some Tor packages (notably the ones for OS X, Debian, Red Hat, etc) change the default logging so it logs to a file, and then Tor runs in the background.
Dunno about Wiley, but my wife publishes popular fiction and her contacts give the rights to the publisher even though the work is copyrighted to her. There is a clause in the contract, however, something to the effect that 6 years after the publication date, she can petition to get the rights transfferred to her. But that might be particular to her publisher
IOW, even though she is the copyright holder, she can't redistribute the content in any form per the contract.
Haven't spent alot of time interacting in mmogs, have you? In the 14 years or so of playing mmogs (first muds, mushes, and moos, then Evercrack, and others), I have met and interacted with people from across the globe. People I never would have met otherwise, and through them, I learned something about their country and culture. I haven't had that experience playing Half-Life on-line, but then I just wanna frag something.
Some MMOGers actually interact rather than just greif.:)
Um, corporations exist to make money period. The stuff they create along the way is simply a means.
Now those cool serivces they make and we all use generate revenue based on the advertising that is presented along with the results.
I think the success of thier search results is based on the straight text nature sitting off to the side. When I go to a page, and I imagine this happens to others as well, when I see those flashing ads, the long sky scraper, the flash animations, I reflexively look away regardless of the ad. Same with ads in the middle of page. I find them obnoxious. But plain text ads provided by google or not, while not attracting my attention (and my ignore reflex), are more likely to get my eyeballs and a click if it is relevant. Yes, I know it is an ad and I don't confuse it with editorial, but if I see it, hasn't the advertising done at least 50% of what it should?
So no, the people at google are not a bunch of warm and fuzzy communists. They are rain makers.
Your falsly equating open source with Linux and Hackers
Sorry, I was using "Hacker" in the sense of higly creative and knowlegable people who make/modify things, such as coders. Not in the criminal sense. I had hoped qualifying "hackers" with "Linux", that would be apparent.
I imagine the IP to develop a fully functional system would cost alot of time and money to produce. What would be the benefit of of F/OSS? Think of the impliations. Make a mistake while modifying the code and you can really fsck things up badly.
The benefit of F/OSS code to most organiztions is not that they can modify the code. Do you think Hoboken employs alot of Linux hackers capable of fixing something as complex as this system appears to be? And in a reasonable amount of time? Nah, the benefit is that F/OSS is free, so at least you don't have to deal with licensing costs.
This particular issues boils down to licensing and contract disputes. Nothing more.
Perhaps this is a problem with the rock in water analogy but I wonder if it applies to bending light as well. When water flows around a rock, turbulance is created that can be seen from all sides even if you can't see the rock. The further you get from the rock, the less visible the turbulance is. This is true even if the viewer is at or below the plane of the water/air interface. Would a similar principle apply here as well, I wonder?
How would this affect the tiered internet propositions from the leading telecom companies?
I don't think it has any effect at all. What the telcoms are talking about is prioritizing traffic traversing their network which is a different animal altogether.
From the ICANN FAQ: ICANN is responsible for coordinating the management of the technical elements of the DNS to ensure universal resolvability so that all users of the Internet can find all valid addresses. It does this by overseeing the distribution of unique technical identifiers used in the Internet's operations, and delegation of Top-Level Domain names (such as.com,.info, etc.).
Other issues of concern to Internet users, such as the rules for financial transactions, Internet content control, unsolicited commercial email (spam), and data protection are outside the range of ICANN's mission of technical coordination.
"Midlessly patriotic" implies agreeing and backing the actions of the government without critical throught or outspoken criticism. The "mindlessly" modifier does it. That is not true and is a pretty ignorant comment.
If all of the electorate in the US, or even a large majority were mindlessly patriotic, the administrations support would be much higher, ipso facto.
give a loud fuck off to Kieren McCarthy for this little tid bit of editorializing, "That the US government recognises it has to transition its role if it wants to keep the internet in one piece (and it then has to sell that decision to a mindlessly patriotic electorate)"
It (he/she?) knows very little about American culture and hasn't seen recent polls about the dissatisfaction of the electorate with the present administration.
That's interesting. I know alot of people, myself included, that like the IOS command line not becuase it is intuitive (I haven't met a CLI that is "intuitive"), but because it is pretty easy to navigate once you learn a few tricks. Alot of other networking gear have IOS-like interfaces in some cases replicating the IOS structure, but none are exact.
Maybe the only other CLI that is easier to use is Junipers JunOS, but I haven't spent alot of time with it.
Oh, and the docs have gotten much, much better from say 6 years ago.
Clipboard. If you got a clip board, people are AFRAID to question you. A coworker of mine visited a major plant once, and the employees mistook him for a CEO or something like that because he had a clipboard.
Hey, don't let the cat out of the bag. When I was in the Navy, if I wanted to slack, I would carry a clipboard. No one bothers you if you have a clipboard.:)
As a netflix users, yes, I can attest to the throttling. My wife and I had a feeling that was happening before I read the stories on/. We rent TV series on DVD and we easily go through 10 disks in a two weeks, thereby hitting the limit quickly. They slow down service by not acknowleging returned disks (it takes 2 business days in the beginning of the month and over 4 busniess days in the latter part--all being returned to the same local address.
Oh, and for the official gobbeldy-gook, go here http://www.netflix.com/TermsOfUse?hnjr=8#how and scroll down to Allocation. They don't make throttling a secret. The result of giving priority to low renters is slowing down top renters. Nevermind that top renters tend to go through DVD fast thereby keeping a scarce resource in circulation.
Oh, what I would give for an on-demand digital medium. I would gladly use it, DRM be damned.
You're getting a bunch of 35 year-old, predominantly-white, middle-class geeks to develop your "hip" urban game!
I am a 35 year-old, predominantly-white, middle-class geek, and I like my urban combat set to the preconceived sounds and images pumped out by Hollywood.
Ratboy, you not making sense with this: Your point of trust (as the target) is your browser. Which means ONLY open source browsers should be used. Those, at least, are controllable as to the exposure and behaviour when being delivered content.
Most users who are 1) not programmers or 2) are programmers but have no familiarity with a particular browser source tree, don't have any more control over how content is handled by the browser with the exception of using other 3d party plug-ins (firefox extensions, etc). So the real point here is that any browser with a vulnerability is a potential target of the types of exploits you're talking about, open source or not.
Somewhat off topic.
I don't have a dvr, but the commercial skip on my vcr doesn't work very well, which means I have to FF through it. Since I need to know where to stop, I have to actually watch the screen. I am more glued to it than if I hit mute and talk to my wife, look at a magazine, whatever.
Does DVR commerial skip work well?
In short, there is no easy solution and trying to pan it all off on the players will never work satisfactorily
sure there is a solution. On-line games should have an ignore list that lets you blacklist players so you can't see, hear, or be affected by someone actions. It's very effective. I am pretty sure Evercack had an ignore list (It's been a few years) that worked quite well. I wish I had an ignore feature IRL sometimes.
I remember while moo'ing years back being amazed at how people refused to use the ignore commands when they were being griefed. I used it alot and happily.
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Last time I checked, Firefox was still open source software. If they're not fixing bugs fast enough for your liking, by all means, download the source and fix them yourself. That's not meant as a smart-ass excuse for not fixing a bug, but the article's author says:
This is such an elitist position and really hurts both opensource in general and Firefox specifically. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that a large marjority of Firefox users, myself included, don't have either the chops nor the time to gain the chops to fix bugs. Also, even if I had the chops to fix bugs, I don't have the time to get familiar with the source tree to be effective. It's not like debuging is a 5 minute deal.
I updated to FF 2.0 and downgraded to 1.5 wihtin a few days because 2.0 kept freezing and crashing and to be honest, I didn't seem any new features that made upgrading compelling.
Now I think FF is a GREAT browser, I use it all the time and only revert to IE when I have to. And I have themed it and added extensions. I reccomend it to friends and spread the word. But, yeah, I have to agree, 2.0 was less than I had hoped for.
However, I also want to sincerly thank for Mozilla Foundation and any volunteers working on the Mozilla projects for all their effort because people like me can't build this stuff.
Rememeber in the movie when the coucil was discussing what to do with the ring, and Frodo stepped up? Nest thing ya know, there's Aragorn offering him is sword. Sorry, but that just brings up a Beavis and Butt-head giggle everytime.
So what? I find exploit code all the time, week, months, years after the fact. It's called Packet Storm Security or elsewhere.
Hell, google.com cache pages are great for shit like this.
Let's give a real-world example. Let's say there is a neighborhood where all the houses are equal in appearance and value, perhaps 10%, regardless of market movement (ie, if the market goes up, all the houses go up, etc). Now let's change the neighbor hood.
- say that one house becomes run down, gets painted an ugly color, hell, it get's sliced up into a multi-tenant building.
- say that one house is beautified, new paint, pretty gardens, just smashing.
My bet is that house #1 will have a larger negative effect on the houing prices in the neighborhood than the positive effect of house #2 because an eyesore sticks in peoples minds, is repulsive, and may indicate that a neighborhood is deteriorating. No one wants to deal with an eyesore. House #2, however, will look nice and may raise it's value higher than said 10%, but other houses in the neighborhood will remain even because a pretty neighbors house doesn't really add value to mine. Now, if more houses were beautified, then house values would rise because that indicates a "nice" neighborhood is growing.In really run-down neighborhoods in cities, that is called gentrification, and usually a group of people will by run-down property en-masse (cheaply) hoping to create a groundswell growth and desireability. The higher property values push out lower income residents who can't afford the higher costs (taxes, buying new property, etc). It's interesting to note that in countries that don't have property taxes, you see run-down shacks sitting next to multi-million dollar homes because neighborhoods aren't gentrified as easily.
So why should neighbors have a say in what you can do to your property? Becuase your actions impact thier property values to a greater or lesser extent.
Not interesting
As far as I know and read the Tor documentation, Tor doesn't keep logs.
Read first, then post.
By default, Tor logs to the screen (it's called "standard out", or "stdout" for short) at log-level notice. However, some Tor packages (notably the ones for OS X, Debian, Red Hat, etc) change the default logging so it logs to a file, and then Tor runs in the background.
Dunno about Wiley, but my wife publishes popular fiction and her contacts give the rights to the publisher even though the work is copyrighted to her. There is a clause in the contract, however, something to the effect that 6 years after the publication date, she can petition to get the rights transfferred to her. But that might be particular to her publisher
IOW, even though she is the copyright holder, she can't redistribute the content in any form per the contract.
Haven't spent alot of time interacting in mmogs, have you? In the 14 years or so of playing mmogs (first muds, mushes, and moos, then Evercrack, and others), I have met and interacted with people from across the globe. People I never would have met otherwise, and through them, I learned something about their country and culture. I haven't had that experience playing Half-Life on-line, but then I just wanna frag something.
:)
Some MMOGers actually interact rather than just greif.
Um, corporations exist to make money period. The stuff they create along the way is simply a means.
Now those cool serivces they make and we all use generate revenue based on the advertising that is presented along with the results.
I think the success of thier search results is based on the straight text nature sitting off to the side. When I go to a page, and I imagine this happens to others as well, when I see those flashing ads, the long sky scraper, the flash animations, I reflexively look away regardless of the ad. Same with ads in the middle of page. I find them obnoxious. But plain text ads provided by google or not, while not attracting my attention (and my ignore reflex), are more likely to get my eyeballs and a click if it is relevant. Yes, I know it is an ad and I don't confuse it with editorial, but if I see it, hasn't the advertising done at least 50% of what it should?
So no, the people at google are not a bunch of warm and fuzzy communists. They are rain makers.
Your falsly equating open source with Linux and Hackers
Sorry, I was using "Hacker" in the sense of higly creative and knowlegable people who make/modify things, such as coders. Not in the criminal sense. I had hoped qualifying "hackers" with "Linux", that would be apparent.
I imagine the IP to develop a fully functional system would cost alot of time and money to produce. What would be the benefit of of F/OSS? Think of the impliations. Make a mistake while modifying the code and you can really fsck things up badly.
The benefit of F/OSS code to most organiztions is not that they can modify the code. Do you think Hoboken employs alot of Linux hackers capable of fixing something as complex as this system appears to be? And in a reasonable amount of time? Nah, the benefit is that F/OSS is free, so at least you don't have to deal with licensing costs.
This particular issues boils down to licensing and contract disputes. Nothing more.
Yah, that seems resonable.
Perhaps this is a problem with the rock in water analogy but I wonder if it applies to bending light as well. When water flows around a rock, turbulance is created that can be seen from all sides even if you can't see the rock. The further you get from the rock, the less visible the turbulance is. This is true even if the viewer is at or below the plane of the water/air interface. Would a similar principle apply here as well, I wonder?
How would this affect the tiered internet propositions from the leading telecom companies?
.com, .info, etc.).
I don't think it has any effect at all. What the telcoms are talking about is prioritizing traffic traversing their network which is a different animal altogether.
From the ICANN FAQ: ICANN is responsible for coordinating the management of the technical elements of the DNS to ensure universal resolvability so that all users of the Internet can find all valid addresses. It does this by overseeing the distribution of unique technical identifiers used in the Internet's operations, and delegation of Top-Level Domain names (such as
Other issues of concern to Internet users, such as the rules for financial transactions, Internet content control, unsolicited commercial email (spam), and data protection are outside the range of ICANN's mission of technical coordination.
"Midlessly patriotic" implies agreeing and backing the actions of the government without critical throught or outspoken criticism. The "mindlessly" modifier does it. That is not true and is a pretty ignorant comment.
If all of the electorate in the US, or even a large majority were mindlessly patriotic, the administrations support would be much higher, ipso facto.
give a loud fuck off to Kieren McCarthy for this little tid bit of editorializing, "That the US government recognises it has to transition its role if it wants to keep the internet in one piece (and it then has to sell that decision to a mindlessly patriotic electorate)"
It (he/she?) knows very little about American culture and hasn't seen recent polls about the dissatisfaction of the electorate with the present administration.
That's interesting. I know alot of people, myself included, that like the IOS command line not becuase it is intuitive (I haven't met a CLI that is "intuitive"), but because it is pretty easy to navigate once you learn a few tricks. Alot of other networking gear have IOS-like interfaces in some cases replicating the IOS structure, but none are exact.
Maybe the only other CLI that is easier to use is Junipers JunOS, but I haven't spent alot of time with it.
Oh, and the docs have gotten much, much better from say 6 years ago.
Clipboard. If you got a clip board, people are AFRAID to question you. A coworker of mine visited a major plant once, and the employees mistook him for a CEO or something like that because he had a clipboard.
:)
Hey, don't let the cat out of the bag. When I was in the Navy, if I wanted to slack, I would carry a clipboard. No one bothers you if you have a clipboard.
Basically, I am wasting my money on this service as we speak.
:)
No, ya ripe bastard. Yer slowing down us heavy renters by keeping the high value movies out of circulation. Think of your fellow man, man.
As a netflix users, yes, I can attest to the throttling. My wife and I had a feeling that was happening before I read the stories on /. We rent TV series on DVD and we easily go through 10 disks in a two weeks, thereby hitting the limit quickly. They slow down service by not acknowleging returned disks (it takes 2 business days in the beginning of the month and over 4 busniess days in the latter part--all being returned to the same local address.
Oh, and for the official gobbeldy-gook, go here http://www.netflix.com/TermsOfUse?hnjr=8#how and scroll down to Allocation. They don't make throttling a secret. The result of giving priority to low renters is slowing down top renters. Nevermind that top renters tend to go through DVD fast thereby keeping a scarce resource in circulation.
Oh, what I would give for an on-demand digital medium. I would gladly use it, DRM be damned.
You're getting a bunch of 35 year-old, predominantly-white, middle-class geeks to develop your "hip" urban game!
:)
I am a 35 year-old, predominantly-white, middle-class geek, and I like my urban combat set to the preconceived sounds and images pumped out by Hollywood.
Werd.
Interesting until the reared its ugly head.
Ratboy, you not making sense with this: Your point of trust (as the target) is your browser. Which means ONLY open source browsers should be used. Those, at least, are controllable as to the exposure and behaviour when being delivered content.
Most users who are 1) not programmers or 2) are programmers but have no familiarity with a particular browser source tree, don't have any more control over how content is handled by the browser with the exception of using other 3d party plug-ins (firefox extensions, etc). So the real point here is that any browser with a vulnerability is a potential target of the types of exploits you're talking about, open source or not.
Somewhat off topic. I don't have a dvr, but the commercial skip on my vcr doesn't work very well, which means I have to FF through it. Since I need to know where to stop, I have to actually watch the screen. I am more glued to it than if I hit mute and talk to my wife, look at a magazine, whatever. Does DVR commerial skip work well?
...live in the city. The air quality is so bad here I'd be amazed if any mosquitoe could survive long term.
Helloooooo? Athens is a city .
The EFF is pretty ineffective in moving change, no? Why include them?
In short, there is no easy solution and trying to pan it all off on the players will never work satisfactorily
sure there is a solution. On-line games should have an ignore list that lets you blacklist players so you can't see, hear, or be affected by someone actions. It's very effective. I am pretty sure Evercack had an ignore list (It's been a few years) that worked quite well. I wish I had an ignore feature IRL sometimes.
Yeah brother. /ignore all is a wonderful thing.
I remember while moo'ing years back being amazed at how people refused to use the ignore commands when they were being griefed. I used it alot and happily.