Your logic is again flawed. The person who never sees a McDonalds ad sees other restaurants as they walk down the street, as they go to work. They make choice based upon other things besides advertising like... what is closest to their workplace or home, what they are in the mood for, what a friend recommends. They have one less input to base that decision on... advertising. And as a result of having that one less input, they are less likely to pick that location.
Refusing to believe something that millions of dollars of research from hundreds of fortune 500 companies has proven time and again isn't going to change the fact that it works.
Yeah you think you trained your mind but advertisers already thought of that and subliminally affect you whether you know it or not. Who do you think is more likely to eat at McDonalds: the person who views the comercial but 'think's they are ignoring the commercials or the person who nerver ever sees a commercial for McDonalds? Your logic just doesn't work.
3. Have agricultural scientists crossbreed cocoa with cannabis for healthier, tastier and easier to bake brownies.
(not to mention easier to bake humans)
Yeah have to agree. That was pretty lame there Rob. I'm a LAMP dev but even I acknowledge that Java is a very useful and powerful language. It's what I lean on when I look to what a real language should aspire to at times; very clean, very organized and well documented. And amazingly easy to pick up and start developing in for first timers.
Not really. Everyone points out the problems with Ruby; Ruby fanbois just choose to be in denial regardless of how many companies and developers post that they have dumped Ruby because of those flaws.
Nah... because PHP is actually used EVERYwhere and is the number 4 most popular programming language. RUBY is still just a toy for beginning developers until is solves several inherent problems with the language.
We run Linux for convenience. We run Mac for media. We run Windows because some CTO in our office doesn't realize that SMTP/LDAP/SFTP/VPN etc are all open protocols and can run the same no matter what platform you are on and would prefer to spend and extra $1000+ dollars on anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-spyware,etc than to just buy a machine for your needs that is secure by default.
You do realize you can install KDE in Ubuntu right? I haven't ever used the Gnome desktop in Ubuntu and have been using Ubuntu for years. Though I do admit I use the Gnome tools... until they crash and die.
You can't enforce laws and punish companies while also ignoring laws that would punish those who hurt componies. If this were a Chinese company and the US was doing this, not only would China be pissed but other countries would protest as well because it is blatantly corrupt. And to attempt to defend that policy is to attempt to defend their corruption.
Sorry... not going to convince me of that after Microsoft has filed several new lawsuits against people pirating their software in several countries, they go after patent infringers and protect their IP like a rabid dog. You'll have to do better than that to convince me that a multiBILLION dollar corporation like Microsoft doesn't like it's money.
In this case I'd have to agree. Not a big Microsoft fan but China has never been one to really enforce anti-piracy. So now they want their cake and to eat it too? Come on. That's like telling the landlord to turn back on the heat or else your going to not pay him rent again next month.
Yeah I know what you mean. My last job and this one have them and I use them just fine with my Ubuntu laptop as well as my Mac laptop. Does that mean I'm a Linux fanboi too now? Seems you have alot of misconceptions to get over... I suggest seeing that shrink that PC is seeing in those commercials.
I call bullshit. I haven't rebooted my Mac laptop for weeks and play Warcraft, use Eclipse and other stuff for hours on end. I leave it up round the clock. You must be using it to mix drinks on or something for your Vista fanboi get togethers.
Ouch. Your kidding. Well then I'm really not going to use it. Building websites with backends on Ruby is one thing but building distributable applications on RUBY whose scalability is questionable is a scary concept. Thats like asking to paint yourself into a corner. I'll stick with XUL; alot less JS to load (entire MVC in JS??).
Not true... only works in Safari. Much like XUL only works in Mozilla based browsers. This is more similar to XUL but I see XUL having an easier time as Firefox has a larger install base and doesn't require installing Ruby.
CGI scripts have millions of dollars flowing through them too... are I would call the person cranking those out a script monkey too. By your standand, someone who knows HTML and picks up a little CSS, and a little javascript and a little SQL (but doesnt understand any of them WELL) is your idea of a good developer. In the real world however, that is what is knawn as a newbie.
You understand the tools you use and understand them well. We all have to use multiple tools but that does not mean you know them. Learning SQL over the weekend did not turn you into a DBA. Learning about versioning control does not make you into a build engineer. Yet for some reason you assume that by tinkering in other languages, you have become a master. And that is the original point. That whew they say ' a good developer should be able to pick up new languages' they do not mean ' a good developer should dabble or tinker in new languages'. They expect you to be a master of them all in that phrase... and any good developer will tell you that good developers always specialize in something and tinker in other things. But to assume that they KNOW the language is way off base if it isn't their specialty.
Ok someone bitchslap that dumb white guy for complaining about the size of someones yacht and calling Jimmy Hendrix over rated. Man, I'm white but I still gotta call you too white.
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... judging from all those commercials in which he appears.
Your logic is again flawed. The person who never sees a McDonalds ad sees other restaurants as they walk down the street, as they go to work. They make choice based upon other things besides advertising like... what is closest to their workplace or home, what they are in the mood for, what a friend recommends. They have one less input to base that decision on... advertising. And as a result of having that one less input, they are less likely to pick that location.
Refusing to believe something that millions of dollars of research from hundreds of fortune 500 companies has proven time and again isn't going to change the fact that it works.
Yeah you think you trained your mind but advertisers already thought of that and subliminally affect you whether you know it or not. Who do you think is more likely to eat at McDonalds: the person who views the comercial but 'think's they are ignoring the commercials or the person who nerver ever sees a commercial for McDonalds? Your logic just doesn't work.
Better than the usual mormon jokes that we tell around here.
no... it says "to bake MANY"
3. Have agricultural scientists crossbreed cocoa with cannabis for healthier, tastier and easier to bake brownies. (not to mention easier to bake humans)
Yeah have to agree. That was pretty lame there Rob. I'm a LAMP dev but even I acknowledge that Java is a very useful and powerful language. It's what I lean on when I look to what a real language should aspire to at times; very clean, very organized and well documented. And amazingly easy to pick up and start developing in for first timers.
hmmm... maybe he should make Proc.deny_truth as well as it would be equally helpful to the Ruby community.
Not really. Everyone points out the problems with Ruby; Ruby fanbois just choose to be in denial regardless of how many companies and developers post that they have dumped Ruby because of those flaws.
Nah... because PHP is actually used EVERYwhere and is the number 4 most popular programming language. RUBY is still just a toy for beginning developers until is solves several inherent problems with the language.
We run Linux for convenience. We run Mac for media. We run Windows because some CTO in our office doesn't realize that SMTP/LDAP/SFTP/VPN etc are all open protocols and can run the same no matter what platform you are on and would prefer to spend and extra $1000+ dollars on anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-spyware,etc than to just buy a machine for your needs that is secure by default.
You do realize you can install KDE in Ubuntu right? I haven't ever used the Gnome desktop in Ubuntu and have been using Ubuntu for years. Though I do admit I use the Gnome tools... until they crash and die.
Yeah... total mispost.
You can't enforce laws and punish companies while also ignoring laws that would punish those who hurt componies. If this were a Chinese company and the US was doing this, not only would China be pissed but other countries would protest as well because it is blatantly corrupt. And to attempt to defend that policy is to attempt to defend their corruption.
Sorry... not going to convince me of that after Microsoft has filed several new lawsuits against people pirating their software in several countries, they go after patent infringers and protect their IP like a rabid dog. You'll have to do better than that to convince me that a multiBILLION dollar corporation like Microsoft doesn't like it's money.
In this case I'd have to agree. Not a big Microsoft fan but China has never been one to really enforce anti-piracy. So now they want their cake and to eat it too? Come on. That's like telling the landlord to turn back on the heat or else your going to not pay him rent again next month.
Yeah I know what you mean. My last job and this one have them and I use them just fine with my Ubuntu laptop as well as my Mac laptop. Does that mean I'm a Linux fanboi too now? Seems you have alot of misconceptions to get over... I suggest seeing that shrink that PC is seeing in those commercials.
I call bullshit. I haven't rebooted my Mac laptop for weeks and play Warcraft, use Eclipse and other stuff for hours on end. I leave it up round the clock. You must be using it to mix drinks on or something for your Vista fanboi get togethers.
So Vista people are paying to be crapped on? Wow. what a bunch of shitheads.
Well it said it requires it for developing. So it must require it in some sense or else why develop in it.
Ouch. Your kidding. Well then I'm really not going to use it. Building websites with backends on Ruby is one thing but building distributable applications on RUBY whose scalability is questionable is a scary concept. Thats like asking to paint yourself into a corner. I'll stick with XUL; alot less JS to load (entire MVC in JS??).
Not true... only works in Safari. Much like XUL only works in Mozilla based browsers. This is more similar to XUL but I see XUL having an easier time as Firefox has a larger install base and doesn't require installing Ruby.
CGI scripts have millions of dollars flowing through them too... are I would call the person cranking those out a script monkey too. By your standand, someone who knows HTML and picks up a little CSS, and a little javascript and a little SQL (but doesnt understand any of them WELL) is your idea of a good developer. In the real world however, that is what is knawn as a newbie.
You understand the tools you use and understand them well. We all have to use multiple tools but that does not mean you know them. Learning SQL over the weekend did not turn you into a DBA. Learning about versioning control does not make you into a build engineer. Yet for some reason you assume that by tinkering in other languages, you have become a master. And that is the original point. That whew they say ' a good developer should be able to pick up new languages' they do not mean ' a good developer should dabble or tinker in new languages'. They expect you to be a master of them all in that phrase... and any good developer will tell you that good developers always specialize in something and tinker in other things. But to assume that they KNOW the language is way off base if it isn't their specialty.
Ok someone bitchslap that dumb white guy for complaining about the size of someones yacht and calling Jimmy Hendrix over rated. Man, I'm white but I still gotta call you too white.