The San Francisco based "Cisco-ians" all use MacBooks for sure, but as I said, there were just as many official Cisco employees using Dell laptops to host sessions. I actually asked someone this morning why Cisco has a love for Apple and their response actually doesn't surprise me now that I know:
"Because they (Apple) have a non-compete with us and they make good hardware, duh! Unlike, say Dell w/ NetGear & HP with 3Com/ProCurve, Apple doesn't make switches and routers that compete with our product lines. That's why".
I also found out that almost half of them run Linux lol.
"I am a cisco employee"... Because "Anonymous Coward" would never lie, right?
Further, even if you were "a cisco employee", you would most likely have been at Cisco Live! San Diego in July and guess what? For all the black and white fedora wearing network nerds that were there, they were not all using "Macbooks" there, not even close. Heck, even Mike Rowe was sporting a Dell laptop the night of the Aerosmith concert outside the gate at the VIP entrance!
To further down your comment: Cisco isn't the end-all-be-all of networking... You've had too much Kool-Aide.
Apple will not be able to achieve proper support in the enterprise world... Enterprise/Federal customers didn't want a relationship with a "product", which is what Apple makes their money on. Enterprise/Federal customers want a relationship with a company, and they were willing to pay for that. On call, 24/7. I just don't see Apple doing that, ever.
You forget that they have already seriously burned their customers by dropping the ball the way they did with the Apple Xserve and Xserve RAID... A good example of this is "The Tennis Channel" in Los Angeles. They bought millions of dollars worth of Xserve RAID and got severely burned on them when their promised "dual redundant" Xserve RAID's started failing left and right, without any recourse for recovery. I was working for a VAR when that went down and I can tell you that a number of customers would never give them a second chance after that whole debacle.
Considering we just had Cisco LIVE! San Diego, I'll call bullshit on this as well. The number of Dell, Lenovo and other laptops/tablets was conservatively equal to or optimistically greater to Macs for several reasons:
First and foremost: Most companies do not include Mac's in their company approved machine acquisition list. Second: They are STILL not natively compatible with a lot of software without running Fusion or similar.
I will admit that they are popular machines, but I digress in stating they are not "massively preferred"... At least not by the companies themselves. From a personal networking perspective, I hate Bonjour and AppleTV with a passion and find them both as bad as AppleTalk was a decade ago in useless traffic sent across the line. Here's hoping Cisco outright slaps them into shutting those services up.
I would like to think if I installed Win10 Enterprise on my systems at home and use workgroups, I could deploy this and manage my kid's ability to allow/disallow various applications as well...
In the mind of an Administrator, domain employees are not any different than children after all.
> Have better hardware, have a RAID, transfer the log messages over the network, have a UPS on your computer, invent a time machine.
You do realize this happens regardless of what hardware you are running. In my case, I have a VCE VBLOCK 720 running VMware Vsphere 5.5 against an EMC VMAX 10K that is only only 40% full and has 1ms FC latency across an ALUA mode4 (MPIO least-connect) configured path.
The issue isn't some out of place one off situation, but rather a consistent issue that other admins have experienced while running applications like Oracle E-Business Suite (EBS), SAP and Oracle RAC 12c with high limits of logging facilities. Visit VMworld, go to a VMUG, a VCE UG or any other group that runs lots of priority 1 applications on high end systems for their corporate environment and you will hear the same issue crop up in conversation many times.
Transferring log messages via rsyslog or snmp traps is CURRENTLY the only resolve here and it is one I find to be annoying.
"The next question seems obvious to me though - how do we avoid that in the future?"
I do not know, I am not a programmer. All I can say though is that it is an issue where the systemd camp has yet to satisfy sysadmins.
I may have weakened my point by indeed mocking people on the conjecture that so many/.'ers simply jump on a bandwagon without knowledge of the entire entity. However, it is hard to ignore the sheer ignorance of some at times and I admit fault in letting it get to me. Regardless, journald is still a huge thorn for many and needs to be addressed.
The TL;DR resolution: journalctl --fsck after rotation or pump it into a traditional syslog
Lennart Poettering's comments about it:
"our strategy to rotate-on-corruption is the safest thing we can do, as we make sure that the internal corruption is frozen in time, and not attempted to be "fixed" by a tool, that might end up making things worse"
But but Fedora has been using it for years without issue! Oh wait, that's because no Admin in their right mind would use Fedora as a server. But but it is stable and secure. Oh wait, your high load servers keep corrupting the journald and journalctl can't read portions of it without trying to replace the who journal with a new one. But but you can install rsyslog to fix that! Yeah, because we ALL like having to beta test an unproven product in a production environment only to be forced in resorting to something else that actually works as intended.
I'm caring less about systemd and more about how shortsighted they were when they forced everyone to use journald. The fact that I have to configure rsyslog to have a working log that does not constantly get corrupted and restart a new log, erasing the old one is annoying and shows just how unproven this entire systemd implementation truly is.
Civ V, a game historically known for its poor programming, rushed schedules and years of repair to get playable. This game still has one of the most artificially stupid AI's in the history of the Civ series, so I fail to see how this is even mildly interesting.
If it bugs you enough, like it did with me and my H7150 Smart 60", you can open casing and disconnect the microphone. Took about an hour due to all the screws and the button panel, but the silly microphone can just be unplugged from its source board once you get to it. Smart View Voice Control just complains "it can't hear" now.
Just PM'ed a buddy of mine in Cloud and Enterprise Engineering @ Redmond, WA. about this. He says he uses Windows 2012 Server as his desktop and VMWare Workstation running Slackware Linux on it. Yeah, seems weird, but he says he is more efficient that way.
I take it you were not even alive in the 1960's and 1970's, but that's okay as you can google it and find plenty of media articles on the subject. The particular portion of science I am referring to is the lack thereof in the entire GM agenda as none of it is peer reviewed nor capable of being proven due to lack of evidence. The Earth works in different ways at different times; Ways we only started discovery of when official record keeping began in 1914. Sure, tree rings, ice packs and geological layers give us some insight into the past, but it is far from "proven" by any means and no "climate model" to date can even predict the weather for TOMORROW, let alone the past or future.
You are on/., I urge you to look at this from an unbiased and logical perspective: We don't have all the answers, so why assume someone does when no evidence can prove it?
Sorry to break it to you, but the sheer volume of implausible, unsound and/or improbable Global Warming sites far, FAR exceeds the denialist sites.
I actually file the majority Global Warming sites away with the tree hugging, PETA loving, EPA driving anti-humanitarian ones... The majority are that bad.
If you read what he says and notice just how much of what he says is flat out ignored by mainstream media, it makes you really question the whole global warming myth. I still call bullshit on global warming... it is as misdirected as the 1970's global iceage scare was.
After Edward Snowden and others came out showing that neither Apple nor Google give 2 shits about their customer's privacy, I've switched to using TOR. Not only that, I limit what my Android phone can see on my PC by ONLY allowing it to connect to a VM running from VirtualBox and of course using a custom Android build.
It's time people give these fuckers the middle finger... They make enough off of us already.
How is this any different than saying goodbye when they are alive?
My uncle recently passed from Parkinson's and he had his death on Skype...
Yes, that is correct, his last few hours on this earth were streamed over a Skype call. I thought it was a good way for family to say goodbye to him though and he said mumblingly that it felt like most of the family was there in his final hours, which was his final request. The Skype thing really helped get more people "there", particularly the ones unable to fly to him due to monetary or personal requirements.
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Solaris =/export/home
To this day, I still use a dedicated/var,/var/www,/var/lib/mysql or/var/log filesystem (depending on application) as it helps ensure that the fs doesn't get overrun by logs/data. The whole idea of a "one size fits all" lvm configured rootfs makes me shudder in horror.
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The San Francisco based "Cisco-ians" all use MacBooks for sure, but as I said, there were just as many official Cisco employees using Dell laptops to host sessions. I actually asked someone this morning why Cisco has a love for Apple and their response actually doesn't surprise me now that I know:
"Because they (Apple) have a non-compete with us and they make good hardware, duh! Unlike, say Dell w/ NetGear & HP with 3Com/ProCurve, Apple doesn't make switches and routers that compete with our product lines. That's why".
I also found out that almost half of them run Linux lol.
"I am a cisco employee"... Because "Anonymous Coward" would never lie, right?
Further, even if you were "a cisco employee", you would most likely have been at Cisco Live! San Diego in July and guess what? For all the black and white fedora wearing network nerds that were there, they were not all using "Macbooks" there, not even close. Heck, even Mike Rowe was sporting a Dell laptop the night of the Aerosmith concert outside the gate at the VIP entrance!
To further down your comment: Cisco isn't the end-all-be-all of networking... You've had too much Kool-Aide.
Apple will not be able to achieve proper support in the enterprise world... Enterprise/Federal customers didn't want a relationship with a "product", which is what Apple makes their money on. Enterprise/Federal customers want a relationship with a company, and they were willing to pay for that. On call, 24/7. I just don't see Apple doing that, ever.
You forget that they have already seriously burned their customers by dropping the ball the way they did with the Apple Xserve and Xserve RAID... A good example of this is "The Tennis Channel" in Los Angeles. They bought millions of dollars worth of Xserve RAID and got severely burned on them when their promised "dual redundant" Xserve RAID's started failing left and right, without any recourse for recovery. I was working for a VAR when that went down and I can tell you that a number of customers would never give them a second chance after that whole debacle.
Considering we just had Cisco LIVE! San Diego, I'll call bullshit on this as well. The number of Dell, Lenovo and other laptops/tablets was conservatively equal to or optimistically greater to Macs for several reasons:
First and foremost: Most companies do not include Mac's in their company approved machine acquisition list.
Second: They are STILL not natively compatible with a lot of software without running Fusion or similar.
I will admit that they are popular machines, but I digress in stating they are not "massively preferred"... At least not by the companies themselves. From a personal networking perspective, I hate Bonjour and AppleTV with a passion and find them both as bad as AppleTalk was a decade ago in useless traffic sent across the line. Here's hoping Cisco outright slaps them into shutting those services up.
In several spots along the equatorial region it looks to have some open lava tubes that reinforce the idea of a molten core and active volcanos.
I would like to think if I installed Win10 Enterprise on my systems at home and use workgroups, I could deploy this and manage my kid's ability to allow/disallow various applications as well...
In the mind of an Administrator, domain employees are not any different than children after all.
> Have better hardware, have a RAID, transfer the log messages over the network, have a UPS on your computer, invent a time machine.
You do realize this happens regardless of what hardware you are running. In my case, I have a VCE VBLOCK 720 running VMware Vsphere 5.5 against an EMC VMAX 10K that is only only 40% full and has 1ms FC latency across an ALUA mode4 (MPIO least-connect) configured path.
The issue isn't some out of place one off situation, but rather a consistent issue that other admins have experienced while running applications like Oracle E-Business Suite (EBS), SAP and Oracle RAC 12c with high limits of logging facilities. Visit VMworld, go to a VMUG, a VCE UG or any other group that runs lots of priority 1 applications on high end systems for their corporate environment and you will hear the same issue crop up in conversation many times.
Transferring log messages via rsyslog or snmp traps is CURRENTLY the only resolve here and it is one I find to be annoying.
"The next question seems obvious to me though - how do we avoid that in the future?"
I do not know, I am not a programmer. All I can say though is that it is an issue where the systemd camp has yet to satisfy sysadmins.
I may have weakened my point by indeed mocking people on the conjecture that so many /.'ers simply jump on a bandwagon without knowledge of the entire entity. However, it is hard to ignore the sheer ignorance of some at times and I admit fault in letting it get to me. Regardless, journald is still a huge thorn for many and needs to be addressed.
Here is one of many:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/s...
The TL;DR resolution: journalctl --fsck after rotation or pump it into a traditional syslog
Lennart Poettering's comments about it:
"our strategy to rotate-on-corruption is the safest thing we can do, as we make sure that the internal corruption is frozen in time, and not attempted to be "fixed" by a tool, that might end up making things worse"
But but Fedora has been using it for years without issue! Oh wait, that's because no Admin in their right mind would use Fedora as a server. But but it is stable and secure. Oh wait, your high load servers keep corrupting the journald and journalctl can't read portions of it without trying to replace the who journal with a new one. But but you can install rsyslog to fix that! Yeah, because we ALL like having to beta test an unproven product in a production environment only to be forced in resorting to something else that actually works as intended.
I'm caring less about systemd and more about how shortsighted they were when they forced everyone to use journald. The fact that I have to configure rsyslog to have a working log that does not constantly get corrupted and restart a new log, erasing the old one is annoying and shows just how unproven this entire systemd implementation truly is.
Civ V, a game historically known for its poor programming, rushed schedules and years of repair to get playable. This game still has one of the most artificially stupid AI's in the history of the Civ series, so I fail to see how this is even mildly interesting.
I bet you guys look at a crescent moon you think it's caused by the earth's shadow.
It is caused by the earth's shadow... during a lunar eclipse.
If it bugs you enough, like it did with me and my H7150 Smart 60", you can open casing and disconnect the microphone. Took about an hour due to all the screws and the button panel, but the silly microphone can just be unplugged from its source board once you get to it. Smart View Voice Control just complains "it can't hear" now.
Problem solved.
This was classic, thank you for the laugh. Side note, I agree.
Just PM'ed a buddy of mine in Cloud and Enterprise Engineering @ Redmond, WA. about this. He says he uses Windows 2012 Server as his desktop and VMWare Workstation running Slackware Linux on it. Yeah, seems weird, but he says he is more efficient that way.
Neither does "Global Warming", but people seem to drive towards it. Your point?
Whoops, you got caught contributing absolutely nothing again.
Is it too difficult to use google? The top hit goes to wattsupwiththat:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/201...
Or even look at John Coleman's points? Wattsupwiththat even pops in the top 3 of that even:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/201...
Objectively, unbiasedly and openly stated: We do not have all the answers and it's bullshit to assume we know we do.
I take it you were not even alive in the 1960's and 1970's, but that's okay as you can google it and find plenty of media articles on the subject. The particular portion of science I am referring to is the lack thereof in the entire GM agenda as none of it is peer reviewed nor capable of being proven due to lack of evidence. The Earth works in different ways at different times; Ways we only started discovery of when official record keeping began in 1914. Sure, tree rings, ice packs and geological layers give us some insight into the past, but it is far from "proven" by any means and no "climate model" to date can even predict the weather for TOMORROW, let alone the past or future.
You are on /., I urge you to look at this from an unbiased and logical perspective: We don't have all the answers, so why assume someone does when no evidence can prove it?
Sorry to break it to you, but the sheer volume of implausible, unsound and/or improbable Global Warming sites far, FAR exceeds the denialist sites.
I actually file the majority Global Warming sites away with the tree hugging, PETA loving, EPA driving anti-humanitarian ones... The majority are that bad.
One of the best skeptical views originates from the founder of "The Weather Channel" and highly published personality: John Coleman.
http://johncolemanweather.com/
If you read what he says and notice just how much of what he says is flat out ignored by mainstream media, it makes you really question the whole global warming myth. I still call bullshit on global warming... it is as misdirected as the 1970's global iceage scare was.
After Edward Snowden and others came out showing that neither Apple nor Google give 2 shits about their customer's privacy, I've switched to using TOR. Not only that, I limit what my Android phone can see on my PC by ONLY allowing it to connect to a VM running from VirtualBox and of course using a custom Android build.
It's time people give these fuckers the middle finger... They make enough off of us already.
How is this any different than saying goodbye when they are alive?
My uncle recently passed from Parkinson's and he had his death on Skype...
Yes, that is correct, his last few hours on this earth were streamed over a Skype call. I thought it was a good way for family to say goodbye to him though and he said mumblingly that it felt like most of the family was there in his final hours, which was his final request. The Skype thing really helped get more people "there", particularly the ones unable to fly to him due to monetary or personal requirements.
Solaris = /export/home
To this day, I still use a dedicated /var, /var/www, /var/lib/mysql or /var/log filesystem (depending on application) as it helps ensure that the fs doesn't get overrun by logs/data. The whole idea of a "one size fits all" lvm configured rootfs makes me shudder in horror.