There's also AP (Advanced Placement) tests... I was assuming that's what was being talked about.
In my experience those tests are quite comprehensive and aren't going to be passed by someone that doesn't know the material. It provides a way for students that take intro calc or lots of chemistry or otherwise non "core" courses in high-school (or home-schooled kids) to get college credit for what they can prove they know. There's no reason to make someone sit through Calc 1 again when they get to uni when they can show that they already know the material.
Personally I took this route to avoid taking college literature and most of my english composition courses. The one English course that I did have to take (no AP test to test out of it) wound up being a much less demanding course than what I did in high-school. But then while my school may not have had a math or science department to speak of, its English department was top of the line.
Because you want to be able to execute your fair-use rights without having to resort to obtaining an illegal copy?
It's the same reason that I download no-CD cracks or (rarely) an entire copy of a game that I've already purchased. I don't like having to hunt up the play CD every time I want to play a certain game. I like being able to space-shift the game from the CD onto my harddrive. It's convinient.
Ah... but all you've done is made it impossibly difficult for the average person to exercise thier fair-use rights. Format-shift? Time-shift? Space-shift? Nope! Make a clip for a school presentation? Nope! Make a backup? Nope!
Also DRM isn't about making something difficult to copy (not steal... but that's a different arguement). DRM is about making it difficult to crack the DRM. Once the DRM is cracked, it's easy to copy. That's the inherent flaw of DRM schemes.
But... the hardcore hacker community will see this as a challenge and set out to rip and release as much as they can. We see that today with rips of movies being released before they're even released to the public, with CSS being cracked, etc, etc. There's a lot of people who are willing to spend thier time on these pursuits without financial compensation. They're not going to magically go away if/when DRM gets tougher to crack.
Finally, as others have pointed out, once you've got a copy with no DRM, then we're right back to the filesharing we've got today.
All DRM will do is keep paying customers from executing thier fair-use rights and not do much to stem the flow of illegal copies.
If you want to reduce piracy then stop giving people new reasons to pirate stuff!
Since there's no legislation regarding the MPAA movie ratings or their enforcement how could the rating system be state-censorship? MPAA movie ratings are a rating scheme that companies voluntarily comply with.
Much like the ESRB ratings.
If you find a store in your area not complying with the ESRB ratings then get your local media to run a story on them. However you'll find that the vast majority of stores do comply... and that most kids don't get that violent game from the store directly, but rather they get it from thier parent who can't read a rating.
As for your cigarette analogy... cigarettes have proven negative affects on the health of the consumer... hence why minors can't buy them.
But neither video games mor movies give you cancer or make you shoot people. Hence why there's no restrictive legislation... and shouldn't be. There is no compelling reason to legislate them.
Hmm... not really. There's a lot of people who assume that anyone in a position of power COULD be corrupt. And thus measures should be taken to prevent the abuse of that power.
Read the constitution and you'll see this viewpoint was taken throughout... hence the whole checks and balances thing. It was an attempt to prevent abuses of power.
I believe that the vast majority of public servants are good people. However, I don't believe that means that we need to not look at what ANY of them do and hand them a blank cheque to work with. Hence why a warrant should be required for a wiretap, why police require just cause, why we shouldn't make it easy for an election offical to rig the system, etc.
We should be working to minimize the impact that corrupt people can have on the system... not defending a system that's open to exploitation because the people that could exploit are those that should be protecting it.
I've noticed a disturbing trend... people seem willing to assume that no one in a position of power can possibly be corrupt.
We see this with people defending alledged warrantless spying; we see this with people defending police taking away cameras; we see this with people defending invasive security; we see this with people defending anything that would be a good idea in a perfect world with perfect people.
While I hate to be the one to break it to you, we don't live in a perfect world full of perfect people. There are bad people out there who will abuse power granted to them. The person you hire to protect someone or something may well use the power you gave them to attack what you hired them to protect.
Why do you assume that it has to be a voter on voting day? There's no law of nature that says that an election official, or a security guard, or any of the myrid of other people who have access to the machines isn't corrupt.
Or better yet, you only had 1 computer at work but needed to work in more than one environment?
Not everyone has a machine that they can dedicate to each OS they have a need/desire to run, and not everything that's done on a computer is done at home.
This is hardly an attribute that's unique to democrats. Take a look at the Republicans when it comes to gay rights or abortion, they not only believe that thier stance is the only correct one, but they believe it's the only one that's even worthy of consideration. The same flaw that you attribute to democrats.
There's reasons that I don't associate myself with either party...
Hey Nixon was our leader and was acting in the nations best interest! Who are you to disparage him?
More seriously, when someone's conduct is being excused because of thier position of power, then something is seriously wrong.
There is no difference between me illegally listening to all of your conversations and the NSA illegally listening to all of your conversations. It's illegal either way, and you should be as outraged by it either way.
I find it absolutely amazing is that there are people that will defend a government that is setting the precedence for being above reproach. We're looking at a situation where the government is saying that it can do whatever it wants and then can stop the courts or anyone else from finding out what it's doing. That doesn't sound like a healthy democracy to me.
A MMORPG isn't a traditional game... a vast amount of the fun in it is the in-game economy. It took me a good deal of playing FFXI to realize that's why I was enjoying it... and then when I got to the point where earning money wasn't difficult or really time consuming I realized that I'd "beaten" the game, and got tired of it. For me it's not about having a high-level character, it's about learning the intricacies of the economy.
Also, in case you weren't aware there's some pretty compelling stories in FFXI, I'm considering going back to it for a while just so I can finish up the story arcs that I left undone.
I dunno, my dad got me copies of wolfenstien and doom back when those were new... and I hadn't even asked for them! (Mainly because I didn't even know they existed... hey... I was young!:P)
Interestingly enough, I was being provided these games yet wasn't allowed to watch R rated movies at a friends place. (At home with parents involved though I was.)
Now, I think I've turned out all right. I mean I only indulge in the occasional slaughter of innocent civilians, it's not like it's something I do every night!
Seriously, different parents have different standards, and trying to apply your standards to everyone just doens't work.
Buying a DVD is only economical if you're going to watch movies several times. The vast majority of movies are worth watching exactly 1 time.
Alternatively you could see if your friends enjoy the same types of movies as you do. I do a decent amount of borrowing/loaning DVDs with my friends, which means that sure I may only watch the movie once, but 4-5 friends also get to see it, (and I'll get to see thier movies as well). And I own the movie just in case I should decide to rewatch it, or perhaps sell it if it's something I know I won't rewatch.
If the gold farmers were earning thier gold in ways that didn't grief others or exclude others from content, then I and a lot of others would be focusing our wrath on the gold buyers instead.
However, when the gold farmers are at the same spot 24/7 with insta-claim bots keeping real players from having a chance at the mob that drops some great item...
When the gold farmers attempt to MPK anyone that tries to compete with them weather it be for a mob or a mining/harvesting/whatever spot...
When the gold farmers will 24/7 kill a mob that drop really nice untradeable and unsellable items... unless you pay them a large amount of gold... then they'll allow you to get the claim...
When the gold farmers will purposely find a fast moving profitable consumable to make, then sell it at a slight loss until all thier competition gives up... and repeating as neccesary as real people try to reenter the market...
When the gold farmers are causing this much grief, well, guess what? I don't feel much sympathy for them.
Now there may be gold farmers that don't use these tactics. If there are, well, I really don't have an issue with them, they're not working hard at screwing me over.
For those that haven't played, let me try to lay it out a bit clearer.
In FFXI you can change your job (think class). You also have a sub-job that imparts some of it's abilities and traits to your main job. So there's a lot of flexibility in the job system. For example I'm a monk... which is a DD job that gets up to a mob and hits them, a lot, and hard. Usually I sub warrior for the traits and abilities it gives me that help me do more damage. However, I could instead sub ninja and be able to cast shadows that'll get hit instead of me... so I can deal a bit less damage but not die against bosses and such. Or play with a white mage sub to boost my mind stat and use the monks chi-blast ability (damage based on mind) to serve as a long range nuker and cure a bit.
Essentially my monk can play as a DD, a tank, or a nuker/healer depending on what the circumstances need. However that flexibility comes at a price... I wind up needing to level more than just monk.
But since all the jobs play differently, and the low levels go really fast and dying doesn't matter much there, it doesn't bug me. Personally I'm really amazed that this of all things is what the parent poster complains about, but hey, to each thier own.
On the other hand, there's a lot to do besides level. I know people that've played for years and don't have a character past 20. The economy is a game in and of itself, and you can get really sucked into playing with it.
Well, I had a few courses where the prof would use his laptop to implement code changes and show what the results were. Made a great way to clear up questions students had. Sadly profs that did this were relatively few and far between.
What I found a personal laptop good for during class was playing solitare. It was a great distraction, especially for those classes with a prof that droned on in a slow monotone about nothing but required attendence...;)
Now outside of class was a different matter. Since my commute was nearly an hour being able to carry around my own computing environment to use to work on assignments *between* classes was VERY handy.
You realize that you can just "hang up" your dsl's PPPoE connection when you're done as well? In fact, one of the reasons driving home router purchases was because a home router could keep your connection up all the time without you having to connect/disconnect... the average joe cared about that, not about a router offering networking or security advantages.
While hardly an avid FPSer, I do play occasionaly... and I've noticed a lot of improvement lately.
First few times I played FEAR at my friends I tried using the old tactics that'd work for the old single player FPSers I'd played before and guess what... the enemy was smarter than them. The AI wouldn't blindly charge at you through a choke point, it would have some of it's units keep you engaged on one front while others would flank around behind you. It would use cover. And while I didn't play it enough to be sure, it seemed like if you'd cleaned out most of the enemies in an area that the few remaining ones would be cautious and wait to ambush you.
If FEAR (and what I've heard about BF2) is indicative of anything it's that we're probably going to be seeing a lot better AI in the near future.
You mean like chocobo expenses (the price is dependent on how popular that rental location is... more popular, the more expensive)?
You mean like the 1mil gil cost to get into some high level areas?
You mean like the tax on everything sold through the AH, and the 10% tax applied to everything sold through bazaars in Jeuno?
You mean like nerfing the NPC buy costs on items when they're being abused?
You mean like being able to desynth items that you buy from vendors into raw ingredients to sell on the AH? That in itself places a cap on inflation on all but the quest/drop-only items (and items made from those). Currently there's raw ingredients that have essentially been capped in price because I can go to an NPC and have a limitless supply of items to buy, and I can make them into raw materials for a profit.
Heck, there's even some materials that can only be obtained by buying a 7mil item from a vendor and attempting to desynth it.
SE does take steps to remove gil from the economy, I think there's just a huge amount of "extra" gil to remove... as evidenced by IGE slashing prices by half or more, not buying gil, and still being able to sell gil for a month or more before running low and starting to buy again.
I find the recent economy really interesting as IGEs actions have a direct correlation with the massive inflation and deflation of the economy. Is there causation? Noone can say for sure, but I'm guessing so.
As for NPCs to fight with you, those were added a while back. They're not popular in real xp parties, but for 2-3 person little groups they work great.
As for the party problems... I never found it a real problem, but that's probably because I'm fascinated by the economy, as it's a game in itself. I'd play with crafting and market speculation while I waited for a party. Alternatively there's tons of quests to do while you wait. People standing around doing nothing and bored while they look for a party isn't the games fault.
I'm not sure if you're agreeing, disagreeing, or merely providing comment in response to my message.
Reason I'm wondering is that I agree with most of what you said most of the time. I disagree that corporations never do try to be altruistic for purely altruistic reasons. A classic example is Ford. He was sued by his shareholders for not charging as much as he could get away with and thus costing the shareholders potential profits. He argued altruistic reasons and got shot down when he might well have won if he'd argued value of good will or increasing the potential market.
I'd like to think that google is being nice because their leadership is nice guys, but I'm too much of a realist for that. Fords don't happen often. Hence why I want to make the value of being altruistic as high as I can.
There's a second economic aspect to this other than the one you mentioned. They're getting free publicity because they're doing "right" by the consumer (it also just kinda happens to save them money)
Personally, I want companies to start thinking about the free publicity of doing what's good for the consumer. I want companies to start thinking about the value of all the publicity they can get from altruistic acts. I want the leadership of companies to see altruistic acts as having positive economic affects.
Sure google isn't handing thier money out to SBC, but they're also a company that recognizes that being altruistic has it's own value. Hence the way they made this statement.
And like the poster you replied to, I'll applaud them too. I want them to get as much value from being altruistic as I can. Maybe they'll do it again someday if we do.
Your heat comments would make sense a few years ago, but Intel and AMD have kinda swapped places in the heat arena. Intel is the one that's putting a space heater in your machine now.
Although, what's going to happen as the switch to multi cores continues... who knows.
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There's also AP (Advanced Placement) tests... I was assuming that's what was being talked about.
In my experience those tests are quite comprehensive and aren't going to be passed by someone that doesn't know the material. It provides a way for students that take intro calc or lots of chemistry or otherwise non "core" courses in high-school (or home-schooled kids) to get college credit for what they can prove they know. There's no reason to make someone sit through Calc 1 again when they get to uni when they can show that they already know the material.
Personally I took this route to avoid taking college literature and most of my english composition courses. The one English course that I did have to take (no AP test to test out of it) wound up being a much less demanding course than what I did in high-school. But then while my school may not have had a math or science department to speak of, its English department was top of the line.
Because you want to be able to execute your fair-use rights without having to resort to obtaining an illegal copy?
It's the same reason that I download no-CD cracks or (rarely) an entire copy of a game that I've already purchased. I don't like having to hunt up the play CD every time I want to play a certain game. I like being able to space-shift the game from the CD onto my harddrive. It's convinient.
Ah... but all you've done is made it impossibly difficult for the average person to exercise thier fair-use rights. Format-shift? Time-shift? Space-shift? Nope! Make a clip for a school presentation? Nope! Make a backup? Nope!
Also DRM isn't about making something difficult to copy (not steal... but that's a different arguement). DRM is about making it difficult to crack the DRM. Once the DRM is cracked, it's easy to copy. That's the inherent flaw of DRM schemes.
But... the hardcore hacker community will see this as a challenge and set out to rip and release as much as they can. We see that today with rips of movies being released before they're even released to the public, with CSS being cracked, etc, etc. There's a lot of people who are willing to spend thier time on these pursuits without financial compensation. They're not going to magically go away if/when DRM gets tougher to crack.
Finally, as others have pointed out, once you've got a copy with no DRM, then we're right back to the filesharing we've got today.
All DRM will do is keep paying customers from executing thier fair-use rights and not do much to stem the flow of illegal copies.
If you want to reduce piracy then stop giving people new reasons to pirate stuff!
Some of us do :)
Since there's no legislation regarding the MPAA movie ratings or their enforcement how could the rating system be state-censorship? MPAA movie ratings are a rating scheme that companies voluntarily comply with.
Much like the ESRB ratings.
If you find a store in your area not complying with the ESRB ratings then get your local media to run a story on them. However you'll find that the vast majority of stores do comply... and that most kids don't get that violent game from the store directly, but rather they get it from thier parent who can't read a rating.
As for your cigarette analogy... cigarettes have proven negative affects on the health of the consumer... hence why minors can't buy them.
But neither video games mor movies give you cancer or make you shoot people. Hence why there's no restrictive legislation... and shouldn't be. There is no compelling reason to legislate them.
Hmm... not really. There's a lot of people who assume that anyone in a position of power COULD be corrupt. And thus measures should be taken to prevent the abuse of that power.
Read the constitution and you'll see this viewpoint was taken throughout... hence the whole checks and balances thing. It was an attempt to prevent abuses of power.
I believe that the vast majority of public servants are good people. However, I don't believe that means that we need to not look at what ANY of them do and hand them a blank cheque to work with. Hence why a warrant should be required for a wiretap, why police require just cause, why we shouldn't make it easy for an election offical to rig the system, etc.
We should be working to minimize the impact that corrupt people can have on the system... not defending a system that's open to exploitation because the people that could exploit are those that should be protecting it.
I've noticed a disturbing trend... people seem willing to assume that no one in a position of power can possibly be corrupt.
We see this with people defending alledged warrantless spying; we see this with people defending police taking away cameras; we see this with people defending invasive security; we see this with people defending anything that would be a good idea in a perfect world with perfect people.
While I hate to be the one to break it to you, we don't live in a perfect world full of perfect people. There are bad people out there who will abuse power granted to them. The person you hire to protect someone or something may well use the power you gave them to attack what you hired them to protect.
Why do you assume that it has to be a voter on voting day? There's no law of nature that says that an election official, or a security guard, or any of the myrid of other people who have access to the machines isn't corrupt.
And if you only had 1 computer?
Or better yet, you only had 1 computer at work but needed to work in more than one environment?
Not everyone has a machine that they can dedicate to each OS they have a need/desire to run, and not everything that's done on a computer is done at home.
This is hardly an attribute that's unique to democrats. Take a look at the Republicans when it comes to gay rights or abortion, they not only believe that thier stance is the only correct one, but they believe it's the only one that's even worthy of consideration. The same flaw that you attribute to democrats.
There's reasons that I don't associate myself with either party...
Hey Nixon was our leader and was acting in the nations best interest! Who are you to disparage him?
More seriously, when someone's conduct is being excused because of thier position of power, then something is seriously wrong.
There is no difference between me illegally listening to all of your conversations and the NSA illegally listening to all of your conversations. It's illegal either way, and you should be as outraged by it either way.
I find it absolutely amazing is that there are people that will defend a government that is setting the precedence for being above reproach. We're looking at a situation where the government is saying that it can do whatever it wants and then can stop the courts or anyone else from finding out what it's doing. That doesn't sound like a healthy democracy to me.
There's settings for that...
Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> History
A MMORPG isn't a traditional game... a vast amount of the fun in it is the in-game economy. It took me a good deal of playing FFXI to realize that's why I was enjoying it... and then when I got to the point where earning money wasn't difficult or really time consuming I realized that I'd "beaten" the game, and got tired of it. For me it's not about having a high-level character, it's about learning the intricacies of the economy.
Also, in case you weren't aware there's some pretty compelling stories in FFXI, I'm considering going back to it for a while just so I can finish up the story arcs that I left undone.
I dunno, my dad got me copies of wolfenstien and doom back when those were new... and I hadn't even asked for them! (Mainly because I didn't even know they existed... hey... I was young! :P)
Interestingly enough, I was being provided these games yet wasn't allowed to watch R rated movies at a friends place. (At home with parents involved though I was.)
Now, I think I've turned out all right. I mean I only indulge in the occasional slaughter of innocent civilians, it's not like it's something I do every night!
Seriously, different parents have different standards, and trying to apply your standards to everyone just doens't work.
Alternatively you could see if your friends enjoy the same types of movies as you do. I do a decent amount of borrowing/loaning DVDs with my friends, which means that sure I may only watch the movie once, but 4-5 friends also get to see it, (and I'll get to see thier movies as well). And I own the movie just in case I should decide to rewatch it, or perhaps sell it if it's something I know I won't rewatch.
Wish I had mod points!
If the gold farmers were earning thier gold in ways that didn't grief others or exclude others from content, then I and a lot of others would be focusing our wrath on the gold buyers instead.
However, when the gold farmers are at the same spot 24/7 with insta-claim bots keeping real players from having a chance at the mob that drops some great item...
When the gold farmers attempt to MPK anyone that tries to compete with them weather it be for a mob or a mining/harvesting/whatever spot...
When the gold farmers will 24/7 kill a mob that drop really nice untradeable and unsellable items... unless you pay them a large amount of gold... then they'll allow you to get the claim...
When the gold farmers will purposely find a fast moving profitable consumable to make, then sell it at a slight loss until all thier competition gives up... and repeating as neccesary as real people try to reenter the market...
When the gold farmers are causing this much grief, well, guess what? I don't feel much sympathy for them.
Now there may be gold farmers that don't use these tactics. If there are, well, I really don't have an issue with them, they're not working hard at screwing me over.
For those that haven't played, let me try to lay it out a bit clearer.
In FFXI you can change your job (think class). You also have a sub-job that imparts some of it's abilities and traits to your main job. So there's a lot of flexibility in the job system. For example I'm a monk... which is a DD job that gets up to a mob and hits them, a lot, and hard. Usually I sub warrior for the traits and abilities it gives me that help me do more damage. However, I could instead sub ninja and be able to cast shadows that'll get hit instead of me... so I can deal a bit less damage but not die against bosses and such. Or play with a white mage sub to boost my mind stat and use the monks chi-blast ability (damage based on mind) to serve as a long range nuker and cure a bit.
Essentially my monk can play as a DD, a tank, or a nuker/healer depending on what the circumstances need. However that flexibility comes at a price... I wind up needing to level more than just monk.
But since all the jobs play differently, and the low levels go really fast and dying doesn't matter much there, it doesn't bug me. Personally I'm really amazed that this of all things is what the parent poster complains about, but hey, to each thier own.
On the other hand, there's a lot to do besides level. I know people that've played for years and don't have a character past 20. The economy is a game in and of itself, and you can get really sucked into playing with it.
Well, I had a few courses where the prof would use his laptop to implement code changes and show what the results were. Made a great way to clear up questions students had. Sadly profs that did this were relatively few and far between.
;)
What I found a personal laptop good for during class was playing solitare. It was a great distraction, especially for those classes with a prof that droned on in a slow monotone about nothing but required attendence...
Now outside of class was a different matter. Since my commute was nearly an hour being able to carry around my own computing environment to use to work on assignments *between* classes was VERY handy.
You realize that you can just "hang up" your dsl's PPPoE connection when you're done as well? In fact, one of the reasons driving home router purchases was because a home router could keep your connection up all the time without you having to connect/disconnect... the average joe cared about that, not about a router offering networking or security advantages.
While hardly an avid FPSer, I do play occasionaly... and I've noticed a lot of improvement lately.
First few times I played FEAR at my friends I tried using the old tactics that'd work for the old single player FPSers I'd played before and guess what... the enemy was smarter than them. The AI wouldn't blindly charge at you through a choke point, it would have some of it's units keep you engaged on one front while others would flank around behind you. It would use cover. And while I didn't play it enough to be sure, it seemed like if you'd cleaned out most of the enemies in an area that the few remaining ones would be cautious and wait to ambush you.
If FEAR (and what I've heard about BF2) is indicative of anything it's that we're probably going to be seeing a lot better AI in the near future.
You mean like chocobo expenses (the price is dependent on how popular that rental location is... more popular, the more expensive)?
You mean like the 1mil gil cost to get into some high level areas?
You mean like the tax on everything sold through the AH, and the 10% tax applied to everything sold through bazaars in Jeuno?
You mean like nerfing the NPC buy costs on items when they're being abused?
You mean like being able to desynth items that you buy from vendors into raw ingredients to sell on the AH? That in itself places a cap on inflation on all but the quest/drop-only items (and items made from those). Currently there's raw ingredients that have essentially been capped in price because I can go to an NPC and have a limitless supply of items to buy, and I can make them into raw materials for a profit.
Heck, there's even some materials that can only be obtained by buying a 7mil item from a vendor and attempting to desynth it.
SE does take steps to remove gil from the economy, I think there's just a huge amount of "extra" gil to remove... as evidenced by IGE slashing prices by half or more, not buying gil, and still being able to sell gil for a month or more before running low and starting to buy again.
I find the recent economy really interesting as IGEs actions have a direct correlation with the massive inflation and deflation of the economy. Is there causation? Noone can say for sure, but I'm guessing so.
As for NPCs to fight with you, those were added a while back. They're not popular in real xp parties, but for 2-3 person little groups they work great.
As for the party problems... I never found it a real problem, but that's probably because I'm fascinated by the economy, as it's a game in itself. I'd play with crafting and market speculation while I waited for a party. Alternatively there's tons of quests to do while you wait. People standing around doing nothing and bored while they look for a party isn't the games fault.
I'm not sure if you're agreeing, disagreeing, or merely providing comment in response to my message.
Reason I'm wondering is that I agree with most of what you said most of the time. I disagree that corporations never do try to be altruistic for purely altruistic reasons. A classic example is Ford. He was sued by his shareholders for not charging as much as he could get away with and thus costing the shareholders potential profits. He argued altruistic reasons and got shot down when he might well have won if he'd argued value of good will or increasing the potential market.
I'd like to think that google is being nice because their leadership is nice guys, but I'm too much of a realist for that. Fords don't happen often. Hence why I want to make the value of being altruistic as high as I can.
I'm kinda wishing I hadn't posted so I could mod you up.
There's a second economic aspect to this other than the one you mentioned. They're getting free publicity because they're doing "right" by the consumer (it also just kinda happens to save them money)
Personally, I want companies to start thinking about the free publicity of doing what's good for the consumer. I want companies to start thinking about the value of all the publicity they can get from altruistic acts. I want the leadership of companies to see altruistic acts as having positive economic affects.
Sure google isn't handing thier money out to SBC, but they're also a company that recognizes that being altruistic has it's own value. Hence the way they made this statement.
And like the poster you replied to, I'll applaud them too. I want them to get as much value from being altruistic as I can. Maybe they'll do it again someday if we do.
Your heat comments would make sense a few years ago, but Intel and AMD have kinda swapped places in the heat arena. Intel is the one that's putting a space heater in your machine now.
Although, what's going to happen as the switch to multi cores continues... who knows.