I have never herd of a Service Provider letting any customer join to thier MPLS network via MPLS. Thats just not secure from what I understand, most dont even like do that with other Service Providers.
The article says "When I told her that I was going for the $44.95-a-month 15-Mbps option (Verizon recently announced plans to up this to 20 Mbps" So RTFA! this guy is not getting 120Mbps to his house!
Also I don't think people get it... PON or GPON http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_optical_netwo rk depending on what Verizon is currently using , It used to be just older PON, GPON can do alot more than 15Mbps, But they are planning to use what is left over for other services IPTV your Voice is on there, even though that don't take much etc... But also they can crank up the bandwidth anytime they want. They are not just going to start giving everyone 50Mbps bandwidth for $50 a month! IPTV takes up some real bandwidth once you start talking HDTV and VOD and more than a couple TVs in the home watching different stuff. This is the way it works people like it or not. Most new DSL ADSL2+ can do 20Mbps, but we only give out 10Mbps now, to people that can get that from the DSLAM. But for people that can get 20Mbps and some people I work with do get that at thier home, they dont offer it yet. because competition doesn't demand that yet, and also bandwidth is still very expensive for the ISP, OC12 links to a major backbones are still expensive.
Also they guy makes it sound like because its Fiber its not shared, all ip networks are shared somewhere but mostly upstream, compared to cable topology. But PON is kinda shared also, its interesting, PON unlike its competitor Active Ethernet, PON is not a Point to Point service, because having to put active electronics so close to the home like with Active-E, Pon lets you send one fiber out to the edge of a neighborhood Passively and from there split it out, not using wavelengths so everyone gets there own frequency, but it just splits it so everyone gets the same signal all the time, then it use time slices to tell the box on the outside of your home when to listen and speak. so in a sense it is shared, less people on a main fiber means more bandwidth for all, but GPON does, I think 30 customers per fiber right now, giving around 60Mbps to each when full, but when there is less people you can get more. So that guy in the article don't know jack either. I am no expert, but have been reading on this stuff lately.
I used to read these alot, and bookmark all the big choices, so I could go back when I didnt like what happened, or maybe was just to curious of what might happen if I chose a certain path. After about 10 bookmarks its gets out of hand! I do think these kind of books help kids think think about the way a simple pc program works.
So I love this, SUSE takes 8GIG and OSX takes 8GIG, VISTA will take maybe at most 10, and I am sure wants you to have at least 5 GIgs free still on the drive just for use, like any other OS. So why I keep hearing so many people bitching about the drive space that will be used for Vista? Please STFU, people just decide its Microsoft;s next version of windows, and look for anything to make a fuss about. It ridiculous. I am sure there is penty to pick on without picking on shit that dont matter. And I am sure you can not install everything and save some of that space that you consider so precious. I got almost 800GB, ill be ok.
Good Reply Fatal67, At least you understand the issues, this topic always gets way out of hand on Slashdot, along with every other VoIP and IPTV article I have read on here. Trying to use these services over the actual Internet is not necessarily ever going to be a guaranteed service like people are used to now, its the Internet! and if you want it to be guaranteed, you are going to have to pay for it or build your own infrastructure. But people and services like Vonage, must be kidding themselves thinking the can just get legislation passed to help them.
Most telephone companies have been building out their fiber networks out for years now, to make sure they have enough bandwidth to provide the next gen services and be able to switch all there current TDM services to IP services, VoIP make allot of sense for Telcos, it saves them back haul costs and lets them provide many services over the same single pair of fiber, many adding IPTV in also. To do this QoS is a must and trying to stop that is crazy in my option, it just does not work like that. Qos does not even come in to play most the time until a queue becomes full, but those guarantees have to be there in order to provide these services to customers in the ways they are used to. Transport providers are just that, they provide the transport you use, and hoe that transport is provided is up to them, you can make deals and pay for the services you want to use on their backbone, but trying to buy standard Internet service and offer people phone service on it is obviously pushing your luck, and will wount get any sympathy from my when those walls crash down, make those bucks while you can! before those providers can fill those pipes with their own services. And I think trying compare this with services that block content is just to confuse people. This is exactly why companies like Cisco and others and hoping to stop these Net Neutrality laws. http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/ 18/1230249
People on Slashdot should try to understand the big picture of these issues before they comment on this stuff is terrible reading most these posts.
I would say you gots BALLS, for even putting that shit on the net at all. But it is more like stupid, let me know when the cops come knocking at the door.
The original article does not mention anything about a USB drive for Superfetch that I remember. Everyone sure that guy didnt just make that up. I mean if the system lets you point Superfetch to any drive on the system and you happen to point it to a USB drive then fine, but does it have to be on the USB drive? using a USB drive for that seems like a bad really bad idea agreed. But i havent read anything saying that but this guys article, and maybe he set his system up for that or something? but no body told him to or made him do this?
Now really check out that price and what you get for the money. They 840$ bundle is the same stuff exactly it seems to me, but with 5 games that you can pick. Problem is is cost more than the Premium System by about 350$ more.
Now how is it that bundle is In Stock and the Premium System is Out Of Stock when its the same thing, except Walmart throws in 5 games that is not packaged with the XBOX 360 in any way shape or form! I have seem lots of these rip off out there and refuse to buy them not so much because of the money but because of principle, I dont want them to get the idea they can do this BS!
In fact, I went to Bestbuy.com and they still say due to limited suppy you need to just call the stores, wich means they dont have them available really.
And Target.com has a banner that says "XBOX has ARRIVED!" but not one for sale on the site! WTF?
Gamestop's and EB Games around my home are saying they wont get them for people that didnt pre-order till April! (I asked if I could still pre order they said they stopped around christmas taking pre orders and not everyone has a console yet) This thing went on sale before Christmas! And they all got a XBOX 360 sign and empty XBOX 360 boxs in the window as if they sitting in there waiting to you to buy one, WTF!
Sorry but that is BS, false advertising or something.
Dont get me wrong, I like the xbox, I got media center setup and waiting on one though. But these half-ass releases make me mad, on both sides, can't they step up the production? what good is advertising things when you cant even suppy them?
I Still cant belive I cant walk in to Best Buy yet and buy one of these things. I keep calling around and everyone says they had some, but they were gone as soon as they came in!
Havent found a online site yet that is selling them that is not a total rip off.
Exactly, I love to watch out local NFL eam games in HD every Sunday, and to some people like my brother, that is enough by itself to buy a HD set. I also watch HD HBO (ROME was awsome in HD) and HD Showtime. Most Prime Time TV is now in HD. I dont watch much Prime Time TV but I have noticed when flipping that much is now in HD. I do watch ER that is in HD, and I know Jay Leno is in HD. I have had my 56" set for a couple years now, and got plenty of use out of it, I paid $2,500 for mine and that was allot. But my Brother bought a 36" LCD HD set for around $800 recently, right after he got a Xbox 360, before that he drove across town to my house to watch the NFL games he didnt go see in the stadium.
I get asked most the time to help people hook up thier systems. I have a really big home system, with a Polk SRT speaker setup with 3 power amps and a passive receiver, that sounds amazing, it takes allot of wireing, most people would pay the people they bought the system from you hook something like this all up, but I enjoy hooking stuff like this up.
Most people dont hook this stuff up right, and mgith not notice when its not hooked up right, but notice right away when it finally hooked up correctly.
Madden is actully in both 720p and 1080i and looks it! Its pretty awsome. BTW I think 720p looks better than 1080i my self. But my TV will only do 1080i and not 720p, but the LCD TVs I have seen play the game in 720p looks better I think. The progresive display looks more liek the PC monitor I am used to.
Sorry if all you people dont have a HDTV at home, I could care less, by saying you dont have one so therefore its not important is just stupid. It is still the biggest thing to hit a console ever. The PC has always had a huge advantage over a console for years, the main reason this is, is because of the fact that they can make the console themselves better and better but we still use TV tech from the 40s or 50s. Now I for one have been sreaming way before HDTV on why we dont do something to make this better. And I would think in the slashdot crowd there would be more people that are ready for console that take this advantage or atleast would apreciate the move forward. I have a HDTV and most the peope I know now have one also, they have gotten allot cheaper and things like this will only help sales. So you keep playing your games on the XBOX in NTSC then, or dont and play PC games because they are better. I still say this is a big deal.
People seem to really be missing out on the fact that this is the first console I have seen that really is impressive. If you have not seen one in a store on HDTV then you are missing whats up! This is a BIG deal, like looking at a normal NTSC old console game then looking at a 1024x768 PC game and comparing them. Go look at it before you says its just more RAM faster processor etc... And if you did and didnt notice the HDTV its hooked to, and think that nots making a difference, then you are lost. As far as I am concerened HDTV is the biggest benefit to console gaming that could have happened. Blue Ray DVD might be nice but this is more important, it took how long for us to break the NTSC barrier on the console? and the XBOX 360 was the first to do it. The regular XBOX was supposed to do some of this, but I never saw it, and looking at the 360 in stores is ngith and day over anything else I have seen do HDTV gaming.
I started working with IP in a small ISP. We were bought by a loal Telco and over the years have got used to having all our routers and switches running on DC current. One thing telco companies do well is DC power, they have alot of skill in providing multiple DC feeds from DC power systems, with battery backup and generators all in line. I would imagine that any big server farm would benefit from this kind of setup. Especially when you have people runnnig the lines that are as good as some of the guys in the telo world, they can really make the wiring look like a art in some places.
Personaly, I still think it looks like crap, but I will buy one because of the games. Needless to say I still wish it looked better in my stereo system rack, and I am suprised that microsoft doesnt think of this. They seemed to have pictured allot of people having this unit vertical, wich to me seems crazy to have in ANY stereo system rack I dont care what if you buy a new shelf or not. And it looks dumb sitting horizonal. I would think you could still make something that stands out and also compliments existing stereo units. But I will have to have this ugly thing sitting in my stereo rack anyway, because in the end its the games I want to play that count. They actually try to sell this unit with it having features of a media center for you home entertainment system, and with it having HDTV support most people I know would have them save thing to says about this unit. People with nice stereo setups and HDTV's to hookd this 4000 system to and just alittle anal about what the eqipment also looks like in thier setup. People with a little TV on a stand and thing sitting on the floor probabaly care less.
Agreed, Why are they useing 29fps anyway? is this still a interlaced format then? I am guessing so, interlaced might be OK to run at 29fps but progressive would look horrible I would think.
I seem to remember that interlaced is used to hide the fact that your are only showing 29fps, and was used to save bandwidth, also that it trying to trick your eyes into not noticeing the 29fps choppiness or whatever.
So saying 29fps is because of something to do with art is crazy. I would also assume that film in cinema would be running at 60fps, since it is progressive, but maybe not? maybe they use some other ways to trick the eyes?
Agreed, no one ever said they would produce more energy than it took to create the fuel cell or to make the hydrogen that goes in the cell, its a replacement for a normal battery, that takes long time to charge has a set amount of lifetime, and it a pain to recycle. also statements like "and even though the generation of hydrogen costs twice as much energy as the resulting hydrogen contains" might be true like I said but I am guessing this is true in a sense for batteries also. The recharging mechanism is probally wastefull to some extent, I doubt what you take from the ac outlet it 100% converted to the battery. pretty sure some loss going from ac to dc even.
Agreed, and I can think of some good uses for this, for one thing these could be made wireless and probally still sound really good. I bought some of the wireless radio frequency speakers once and took them back they sounded like such crap. I would love to have a pair of speakers like these around the house that were wireless and they make wireless WIFI adapters for a plain ethernet connections. They are pricey, but my home speakers in my living room were $10,000. People complaining about having to buy power amps for them, you will have to buy power amps for any set of speaker, maybe they are just confussed about this cause they have really bad stereos that have intenal amps in the all in one receiver. Also got to remeber things like this will get cheaper over time, they first set of anything is going to be expensive, has to be this way to make it worth puttig the R&D time.
Saying Not a redundancy issue must be true, all these people yelling about teh Net's Fragility sounds like BS to me. This must be one of the 2 providers are being assholes.
When the peering of these 2 goes down, BGP should see these routes coming in from any other peers that these 2 are connected to, things might not be a fast between them as it used to but it should go down. Personaly if L3 did block these peoples ips I think that is total BS and would almost think you could sue or something.
Even if peering is gone Cogent deserves the same treatment in terms of routes on the L3 routers as any other company.
If L3 did this to everyone they wouldnt have any internet access.
Maybe Doctors are a risk because People tend to engage in dangerous/insecure/irresponsible habits (ie smoking eating crap etc...) because they know doctors and medican will clean up the mess.
You can say this about lots of things that are dangerous.
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I have never herd of a Service Provider letting any customer join to thier MPLS network via MPLS.
Thats just not secure from what I understand, most dont even like do that with other Service Providers.
The article says "When I told her that I was going for the $44.95-a-month 15-Mbps option (Verizon recently announced plans to up this to 20 Mbps"
o rk
So RTFA! this guy is not getting 120Mbps to his house!
Also I don't think people get it... PON or GPON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_optical_netw
depending on what Verizon is currently using , It used to be just older PON, GPON can do alot more than 15Mbps, But they are planning to use what is left over for other services IPTV your Voice is on there, even though that don't take much etc...
But also they can crank up the bandwidth anytime they want.
They are not just going to start giving everyone 50Mbps bandwidth for $50 a month!
IPTV takes up some real bandwidth once you start talking HDTV and VOD and more than a couple TVs in the home watching different stuff.
This is the way it works people like it or not. Most new DSL ADSL2+ can do 20Mbps, but we only give out 10Mbps now, to people that can get that from the DSLAM.
But for people that can get 20Mbps and some people I work with do get that at thier home, they dont offer it yet. because competition doesn't demand that yet, and also bandwidth is still very expensive for the ISP, OC12 links to a major backbones are still expensive.
Also they guy makes it sound like because its Fiber its not shared, all ip networks are shared somewhere but mostly upstream, compared to cable topology. But PON is kinda shared also, its interesting, PON unlike its competitor Active Ethernet, PON is not a Point to Point service, because having to put active electronics so close to the home like with Active-E, Pon lets you send one fiber out to the edge of a neighborhood Passively and from there split it out, not using wavelengths so everyone gets there own frequency, but it just splits it so everyone gets the same signal all the time, then it use time slices to tell the box on the outside of your home when to listen and speak. so in a sense it is shared, less people on a main fiber means more bandwidth for all, but GPON does, I think 30 customers per fiber right now, giving around 60Mbps to each when full, but when there is less people you can get more.
So that guy in the article don't know jack either.
I am no expert, but have been reading on this stuff lately.
I used to read these alot, and bookmark all the big choices, so I could go back when I didnt like what happened, or maybe was just to curious of what might happen if I chose a certain path.
After about 10 bookmarks its gets out of hand!
I do think these kind of books help kids think think about the way a simple pc program works.
So I love this, SUSE takes 8GIG and OSX takes 8GIG, VISTA will take maybe at most 10, and I am sure wants you to have at least 5 GIgs free still on the drive just for use, like any other OS.
So why I keep hearing so many people bitching about the drive space that will be used for Vista?
Please STFU, people just decide its Microsoft;s next version of windows, and look for anything to make a fuss about.
It ridiculous. I am sure there is penty to pick on without picking on shit that dont matter. And I am sure you can not install everything and save some of that space that you consider so precious.
I got almost 800GB, ill be ok.
Good Reply Fatal67,
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At least you understand the issues, this topic always gets way out of hand on Slashdot, along with every other VoIP and IPTV article I have read on here.
Trying to use these services over the actual Internet is not necessarily ever going to be a guaranteed service like people are used to now, its the Internet! and if you want it to be guaranteed, you are going to have to pay for it or build your own infrastructure.
But people and services like Vonage, must be kidding themselves thinking the can just get legislation passed to help them.
Most telephone companies have been building out their fiber networks out for years now, to make sure they have enough bandwidth to provide the next gen services and be able to switch all there current TDM services to IP services, VoIP make allot of sense for Telcos, it saves them back haul costs and lets them provide many services over the same single pair of fiber, many adding IPTV in also.
To do this QoS is a must and trying to stop that is crazy in my option, it just does not work like that.
Qos does not even come in to play most the time until a queue becomes full, but those guarantees have to be there in order to provide these services to customers in the ways they are used to.
Transport providers are just that, they provide the transport you use, and hoe that transport is provided is up to them, you can make deals and pay for the services you want to use on their backbone, but trying to buy standard Internet service and offer people phone service on it is obviously pushing your luck, and will wount get any sympathy from my when those walls crash down, make those bucks while you can! before those providers can fill those pipes with their own services.
And I think trying compare this with services that block content is just to confuse people.
This is exactly why companies like Cisco and others and hoping to stop these Net Neutrality laws.
http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05
People on Slashdot should try to understand the big picture of these issues before they comment on this stuff is terrible reading most these posts.
I would say you gots BALLS, for even putting that shit on the net at all.
But it is more like stupid, let me know when the cops come knocking at the door.
The original article does not mention anything about a USB drive for Superfetch that I remember.
Everyone sure that guy didnt just make that up.
I mean if the system lets you point Superfetch to any drive on the system and you happen to point it to a USB drive then fine, but does it have to be on the USB drive?
using a USB drive for that seems like a bad really bad idea agreed. But i havent read anything saying that but this guys article, and maybe he set his system up for that or something? but no body told him to or made him do this?
Curious.
I'll secound that! Thats a pretty weak article.
Actually I have been loving "Need for Speed (Most Wanted)"
Best game I have played in awhile, I love getting chased by police and shit.
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But check this out at Walmart.
They have a 360 for sale here:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product
For $838.52
The also have the Normal Premium System for 400$ BUT ITS OUT OF STOCK! here:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product
Now really check out that price and what you get for the money.
They 840$ bundle is the same stuff exactly it seems to me, but with 5 games that you can pick. Problem is is cost more than the
Premium System by about 350$ more.
Now how is it that bundle is In Stock and the Premium System is Out Of Stock when its the same thing, except Walmart throws in 5 games that is not packaged with the XBOX 360 in any way shape or form!
I have seem lots of these rip off out there and refuse to buy them not so much because of the money but because of principle, I dont want them to get the idea they can do this BS!
In fact, I went to Bestbuy.com and they still say due to limited suppy you need to just call the stores, wich means they dont have them available really.
And Target.com has a banner that says "XBOX has ARRIVED!" but not one for sale on the site! WTF?
Gamestop's and EB Games around my home are saying they wont get them for people that didnt pre-order till April! (I asked if I could still pre order they said they stopped around christmas taking pre orders and not everyone has a console yet) This thing went on sale before Christmas!
And they all got a XBOX 360 sign and empty XBOX 360 boxs in the window as if they sitting in there waiting to you to buy one, WTF!
Sorry but that is BS, false advertising or something.
Dont get me wrong, I like the xbox, I got media center setup and waiting on one though.
But these half-ass releases make me mad, on both sides, can't they step up the production? what good is advertising things when you cant even suppy them?
I Still cant belive I cant walk in to Best Buy yet and buy one of these things.
I keep calling around and everyone says they had some, but they were gone as soon as they came in!
Havent found a online site yet that is selling them that is not a total rip off.
Exactly, I love to watch out local NFL eam games in HD every Sunday, and to some people like my brother, that is enough by itself to buy a HD set.
I also watch HD HBO (ROME was awsome in HD) and HD Showtime.
Most Prime Time TV is now in HD. I dont watch much Prime Time TV but I have noticed when flipping that much is now in HD.
I do watch ER that is in HD, and I know Jay Leno is in HD.
I have had my 56" set for a couple years now, and got plenty of use out of it, I paid $2,500 for mine and that was allot. But my Brother bought a 36" LCD HD set for around $800 recently, right after he got a Xbox 360, before that he drove across town to my house to watch the NFL games he didnt go see in the stadium.
I get asked most the time to help people hook up thier systems. I have a really big home system, with a Polk SRT speaker setup with 3 power amps and a passive receiver, that sounds amazing, it takes allot of wireing, most people would pay the people they bought the system from you hook something like this all up, but I enjoy hooking stuff like this up.
Most people dont hook this stuff up right, and mgith not notice when its not hooked up right, but notice right away when it finally hooked up correctly.
Madden is actully in both 720p and 1080i and looks it!
Its pretty awsome.
BTW I think 720p looks better than 1080i my self.
But my TV will only do 1080i and not 720p, but the LCD TVs I have seen play the game in 720p looks better I think. The progresive display looks more liek the PC monitor I am used to.
Sorry if all you people dont have a HDTV at home, I could care less, by saying you dont have one so therefore its not important is just stupid.
It is still the biggest thing to hit a console ever.
The PC has always had a huge advantage over a console for years, the main reason this is, is because of the fact that they can make the console themselves better and better but we still use TV tech from the 40s or 50s.
Now I for one have been sreaming way before HDTV on why we dont do something to make this better. And I would think in the slashdot crowd there would be more people that are ready for console that take this advantage or atleast would apreciate the move forward.
I have a HDTV and most the peope I know now have one also, they have gotten allot cheaper and things like this will only help sales.
So you keep playing your games on the XBOX in NTSC then, or dont and play PC games because they are better.
I still say this is a big deal.
People seem to really be missing out on the fact that this is the first console I have seen that really is impressive.
If you have not seen one in a store on HDTV then you are missing whats up!
This is a BIG deal, like looking at a normal NTSC old console game then looking at a 1024x768 PC game and comparing them.
Go look at it before you says its just more RAM faster processor etc...
And if you did and didnt notice the HDTV its hooked to, and think that nots making a difference, then you are lost.
As far as I am concerened HDTV is the biggest benefit to console gaming that could have happened. Blue Ray DVD might be nice but this is more important, it took how long for us to break the NTSC barrier on the console? and the XBOX 360 was the first to do it.
The regular XBOX was supposed to do some of this, but I never saw it, and looking at the 360 in stores is ngith and day over anything else I have seen do HDTV gaming.
I dont know, looks like dental floss to me, I really couldnt do that work well, it really takes some time to be good at it I am sure.
I started working with IP in a small ISP. We were bought by a loal Telco and over the years have got used to having all our routers and switches running on DC current.
One thing telco companies do well is DC power, they have alot of skill in providing multiple DC feeds from DC power systems, with battery backup and generators all in line.
I would imagine that any big server farm would benefit from this kind of setup. Especially when you have people runnnig the lines that are as good as some of the guys in the telo world, they can really make the wiring look like a art in some places.
Personaly, I still think it looks like crap, but I will buy one because of the games.
Needless to say I still wish it looked better in my stereo system rack, and I am suprised that microsoft doesnt think of this.
They seemed to have pictured allot of people having this unit vertical, wich to me seems crazy to have in ANY stereo system rack I dont care what if you buy a new shelf or not. And it looks dumb sitting horizonal.
I would think you could still make something that stands out and also compliments existing stereo units.
But I will have to have this ugly thing sitting in my stereo rack anyway, because in the end its the games I want to play that count.
They actually try to sell this unit with it having features of a media center for you home entertainment system, and with it having HDTV support most people I know would have them save thing to says about this unit.
People with nice stereo setups and HDTV's to hookd this 4000 system to and just alittle anal about what the eqipment also looks like in thier setup.
People with a little TV on a stand and thing sitting on the floor probabaly care less.
Agreed,
Why are they useing 29fps anyway? is this still a interlaced format then?
I am guessing so, interlaced might be OK to run at 29fps but progressive would look horrible I would think.
I seem to remember that interlaced is used to hide the fact that your are only showing 29fps, and was used to save bandwidth, also that it trying to trick your eyes into not noticeing the 29fps choppiness or whatever.
So saying 29fps is because of something to do with art is crazy. I would also assume that film in cinema would be running at 60fps, since it is progressive, but maybe not? maybe they use some other ways to trick the eyes?
Agreed, no one ever said they would produce more energy than it took to create the fuel cell or to make the hydrogen that goes in the cell, its a replacement for a normal battery, that takes long time to charge has a set amount of lifetime, and it a pain to recycle.
also statements like "and even though the generation of hydrogen costs twice as much energy as the resulting hydrogen contains" might be true like I said but I am guessing this is true in a sense for batteries also. The recharging mechanism is probally wastefull to some extent, I doubt what you take from the ac outlet it 100% converted to the battery. pretty sure some loss going from ac to dc even.
Agreed, and I can think of some good uses for this, for one thing these could be made wireless and probally still sound really good.
I bought some of the wireless radio frequency speakers once and took them back they sounded like such crap.
I would love to have a pair of speakers like these around the house that were wireless and they make wireless WIFI adapters for a plain ethernet connections.
They are pricey, but my home speakers in my living room were $10,000.
People complaining about having to buy power amps for them, you will have to buy power amps for any set of speaker, maybe they are just confussed about this cause they have really bad stereos that have intenal amps in the all in one receiver.
Also got to remeber things like this will get cheaper over time, they first set of anything is going to be expensive, has to be this way to make it worth puttig the R&D time.
You connect the cd player to your pc them send it to the speakers.
Alot of people now adays would like this, some wouldnt at all.
Saying Not a redundancy issue must be true, all these people yelling about teh Net's Fragility sounds like BS to me.
This must be one of the 2 providers are being assholes.
When the peering of these 2 goes down, BGP should see these routes coming in from any other peers that these 2 are connected to, things might not be a fast between them as it used to but it should go down.
Personaly if L3 did block these peoples ips I think that is total BS and would almost think you could sue or something.
Even if peering is gone Cogent deserves the same treatment in terms of routes on the L3 routers as any other company.
If L3 did this to everyone they wouldnt have any internet access.
Maybe Doctors are a risk because
People tend to engage in dangerous/insecure/irresponsible habits (ie smoking eating crap etc...) because they know doctors and medican will clean up the mess.
You can say this about lots of things that are dangerous.