The problem I see with the 10 comments that just point out that you can already secure a wifi network with mac filtering (easy to break in to that BTW, might as well not have it on, if someone wants to get in that is a easy one to forge). What about WIFI networks that are not oepn but can use mac filtering and encryption, like the ones all over the place that are hotspots!
These usually use SSL, on a webpage that makes you use a credit card or login to get access, many at airports, hotels, etc...
Problem is these can be easy to to man in the middle or just fake people out by providing a stronger signal and making a webpage that looks the same. I am guessing the IBM technology might help with some of this?
I didnt realize that becuase XBOX has XBOX Live it makes them use it, I can imagine them doing this for game such as Madden, but for other online games where there the game maker themselves where not wanting to setup their own online game area, wich is what I herd Madden wanted to do. I do agree that its stupid either way, for games that are out on the PC and XBOX they could just run the servers at microsoft and let PC also connect I would think.
And not having a internal hard drive for things like patches seems like a REAL bad idea for console, I just cant see why no adays every console wouldnt have this. I thought you could buy I external for the PS2 (I just never boughtit) and figured the PS3 would have one for sure.
Why is is no one has tryed to make a console game that plays online with others that play on a PC?
I dont think there is any I have noticed, maybe there is, if so please let me know. Seems like a great idea to me. Playing games like Unreal Tournament or Battlefield would be awsome if people on consoles could just join the same online servers as those playing with PCs, so for games like this one, they could just release a Linux version of the server and let either console or PC users play on the same servers. Once and for all showing console users that the mouse beats the crap out of a controller:)
Why is it they always concentrate on things like this when we all know the newsgroups is where stuff is at, are the internet newsgroups so untouchable that they just dont even try to mess with them?
If the time it takes for a signal to get to us from then is really big, then wont the first things we would hear from them, be like their first radio broadcasts ever?
I mean I would assume that the frst thing that aliens would hear from us would be early radio broadcasts, wouldnt the first thing we hear from anyone be the same?
I am really still shocked that the slashdot crowd here has not already torn this book apart with stuff like this in there:
"Many operating systems (windows-based too) use DOS commands for updates, patches, and maintenance. I know the Novell system frequently makes use of changing file attributes before applying new patches to the operating system. These are done with DOS-like commands. UNIX/LINUX is heavily DOS-command style oriented. If you want to get into computer security then you will have to live, eat, and breath DOS and UNIX."
What DOS has to do with Cisco is beyond me. Maybe typing ping or something? Cisco IOS is allot more UNIX like than DOS like. but even then its its own OS for sure.
Very nice retort, I agree completly. The fact the people think its ok we let Bin Ladins family go free so quickly because he was a black sheep etc... is crazy I am sure we dont treat any other murders parents like this, and if we did there would be a out cry. Also if you belive in allot of what Moore says or doesnt say is totally irrelivent, the big problem nobody seems to mention is that the press in the US doesnt bring any of this stuff up for public debate. All the ties between Bush - Saudi money - Laudins etc... should have been at least mentioned in the press and debated openly. This film definitly shows there is something worng, just in the fact that things have been hidden.
Your wrong, there was a presidential press conference were Bush totally lead people to think the the WMD were nuclear, followed by satellite pictures of what looked like mobile silos or something like that, anyway whatever it was it wasn't the size a persons leg.
I agree with you, maybe its because I am a fanboy of Moores also. But that is ok, I would much rather let Moore paint his picture than the shitty job FOX news has been doing over the last 4 years. I think people are wrong about Moore, Back when I was younger I really used to think about tryng to shake things up, try to make people understand that I thought the government was corrupt and that allot of laws were wrong, there is a lesson there, its not nearly as easy as it sounds to be the person that no wants to agree with, people dont like you when you mess with things that they think are just fine the way they are. Sure Moore might be making money now, but I am sure it hasnt been a easy road, and making the decision in his life to try to speak up and make some comments others wont make is a good thing, wish more people were making documenties agaisnt the flow of the popular. After watching F9/11 last night I really liked it, there are some things in there that I am sure some people with love to debate, but no matter what you have to addmit that there are allot of questions that no but Moore seems to be asking. The is not a liberal politician around that even brings up half the dirt that Moore touches on. Something is wrong when other liberals in the country dont ask obvious questions about Bush's ties to Saudi Oil money. I know Bush supporters love to laugh that one off, but people better start taking this shit serriouly, I know that even though I am a democrate I know that most democrate's are corrupt, or they would be hitting the president with qustions alot closer to what Moores is saying.
"Nobody really liked gore, he wasn't exactly leadership material, thats why it was so easy for bush to compete with him. It would have made more sence to have him run as vice president again for lieberman instead."
You must be joking, I guess you missed the fact that Gore actully won!
And all these problems having to do with copper wiring is why Fiber to the home is the holy grail. No RF almost unlimited bandwidth and distance is not a issue depending on the power of the laser. Problem most Telco's have right now is providing the life-line pots service they are using to giving customers. since getting power to the customer in times of ememergency is easier with copper. Many are installing batterys etc... But sounds like using the old POTS lines just for the power is a good idea.
Thanks for pointing this out, I just got done reading the article and was going to post the same, but figured someone had noticed this.
There is a big difference betwen being able to output HDTV and having a HD tuner, being able to record HD would be nice and also output it. Also getting a standard 1080i signal out of a VGA port is not easy and I had never got it to look right on my toshiba using a ATI 8500DV AIW and thier crappy HD Adapter. this might be better with thier newer cards adn drivers.
Checkpoint not only has one of the best Firewall GUIs ever, it had the best log veiwer I have ever seen on a firewall, sorting stuff fast to watch live events that are getting droped or accepted are a huge time saver for trouble shooting fw problems. Also I am currently running checkpoint NG with AI and ClusterXL on 2 Linux fround ends with fiber GIG-E cards in them. They run either in a load-balenced setup or HA. VPN is easy to setup and very standard, much better that it used to be. There is actully tons of things I bet a Checkpoint Firewall can do that your current home firewall can not. ISP redundency was addedd recently. You can run it on Nokia hardware, Linux, Solaris, Checkpoints own OS called (Secure Platform), belive there is some other hardware out there you can this on also.
Also I think I talked to Phoneboy once, a long time ago, back when I was running 3.0 or something. It was through a reseller I was using or something, he had pointed me at the time to his website, I have to say it hellped alot, and I have used it ever since, and his mailing list daily. so I should give a thinks to him.
What's even worse is when Linux users seem to wonder why Linux on the desktop don't take over windows, and talk only about hate for MS, but if they really wanted to get rid of MS they would listen to stuff like this. When this guy tries to explain what needs to be improved to get to that goal, people say well design your own interface or don't use Linux then. Like you hurt their feelings. This guy is writing a rant that needed to be said.
Allot of trouble with giving control to users at the edge, where he hints in new protocols that would allow the users to choose services, probably from other providers rather than the transport provider, is that you almost in all cases have to be able to control the priority of the packets through the IP network to allow most media services to exist. the transport providers have to control this, they cant let the users decide what packets take priority through their network. There might be ways around this, let users mark priorities on their own packets but charge them for doing so, but I don't know don't seem like it would scale, you simply cant have users marking all packets with high priorities. That would remove the the benefit of marking the packets in the first place. Right now the transport providers are getting ready to role out things like 50mb DSL, not so much for internet access, hell their connection to the internet wouldn't be able to give all users 50mb to the internet, but are trying to role out video/voice service on these lines.
I agreee with you completly, were are my mod points when I need them, Thats why you have to read this yahoo article and laugh your ass off, I cant think of any way you can realyl secure email enough to charge people, hell if we could secure it we wouldnt need to charge people at all, thier whole argument is bogus and any one with a brain should be able to see that. Microsoft especialy having the balls to even mention something liek this is laughable, there in secure OS and email clients have causes most the worm/virus based email problems around and then they say chanrging for that will fix it? with no mention how to secure not only the protocol but the OS in wich the application's run on. So charging for soemthing that we cant control enough to stop is the answer to stopping spam? Not to mention the tons of other issues David already mentioned above, even if they could control the open way that a mail server can just be setup on the internet now, where the people or even the virus or worm can just install a tiny mail server itself if passwords/encryption where a issue, mails server get compromised now.
I just signed up for the beta, and I am going to tell you I really hate that active x system checker they are using, I guess just as much as making people send a windows system text file or whatever some do. The reason is, I have a Pent4 2.4GHZ machine with 512ram and a geforce3 video card, I think the processor is fine and the RAM could definitly be 1gig but the video card especialy is outdated. I have been waiting for DOOM3 or HL2 or soemthing to make really want to upgrade, I updated the rest of my system when I got on the SWG Beta, for a Pent3 600mghz machine. If I got on this beta and it ran crapy I would probally just go out and buy more ram and new video card, that is what makes me go by new stuff is the games coming out, but they tend to look at the system then decide if you should be on the beta. I understand they want to make sure people dont wast spots etc... But I really tend to buy my hardware when I have to, and just planed to wait till a game came out I really needed to get new stuff for and would. Maybe this wont effect them picking my for beta as much as I think, but I would think they would see the video card and think "this guy will just whine and complain and tell people the game runs bad with this video card" etc...
Why is it that MSNBC has that the MyDoom Virus attacks Microsoft and not SCO? Is MSNBC(microsoft) so used to viruses targeting them that they dont understand?
Part of that artical: "The government christened the new warning system by transmitting its first alert, about a newly discovered version of a fast-spreading virus known as "Mydoom" or "Novarg."
The cleverly designed virus, spread by e-mail, poses as an authentic error message and entices users to click on it to infect their computers. Infected machines were programmed ultimately to launch an automated attack against Microsoft's Web site. "
QuakeI was definitly a great game, people that say id cant make a good game should be whipped repeatidly. QuakeI and the release of Quakeworld I belive it was, when we finally started hearing more from Carmak and less from Romero since Carmack was working on client side prediction and working out the server client model was great. The game is still a great MP game. And at the time I had allot of fun playing the single player game just to see what was the first true 3D polygon based model engine. It was a awsome game, I still love it.
Again people dont confuss VOIP with being over the internet all the time, it is simply "Voice over IP", IP does not equal Internet. Most the time people assume they are talking about some shitty software and mic hooked to thier computer. Others might only think of VOIP as being in the last mile, liek a new VOIP PBX they just installed at work that lets them do some really cool shit. VOIP can be all that and allot more, but what this is talking about it telco's racing to replace all their internal voice equipment with newer IP switchs that will save allot of time and money. Also once telco's do that, Yes the goverment will want a good way to listen is on those converstations at the telco's CO, jsut liek they do now. The telephone companies will have to have a way to give they access to each phone call etc..
Man do people get confussed the topic of VOIP does not just pretain to your home internet connection what you might think you are getting away with calling someone over the unreliable internet. THis has much much more to do with telephone companies changing out billions of dollars of older analog voice switching equipment to what will be ip a IP packet switched infrastructure. It is a really big deal, and has a huge possibilities. It is simply a matter of time before most interal telphone company traffic is IP and teh costs savings are very real, but would take awhile to explain.
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The problem I see with the 10 comments that just point out that you can already secure a wifi network with mac filtering (easy to break in to that BTW, might as well not have it on, if someone wants to get in that is a easy one to forge).
What about WIFI networks that are not oepn but can use mac filtering and encryption, like the ones all over the place that are hotspots!
These usually use SSL, on a webpage that makes you use a credit card or login to get access, many at airports, hotels, etc...
Problem is these can be easy to to man in the middle or just fake people out by providing a stronger signal and making a webpage that looks the same.
I am guessing the IBM technology might help with some of this?
I didnt realize that becuase XBOX has XBOX Live it makes them use it, I can imagine them doing this for game such as Madden, but for other online games where there the game maker themselves where not wanting to setup their own online game area, wich is what I herd Madden wanted to do.
I do agree that its stupid either way, for games that are out on the PC and XBOX they could just run the servers at microsoft and let PC also connect I would think.
And not having a internal hard drive for things like patches seems like a REAL bad idea for console, I just cant see why no adays every console wouldnt have this.
I thought you could buy I external for the PS2 (I just never boughtit) and figured the PS3 would have one for sure.
Why is is no one has tryed to make a console game that plays online with others that play on a PC?
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I dont think there is any I have noticed, maybe there is, if so please let me know.
Seems like a great idea to me.
Playing games like Unreal Tournament or Battlefield would be awsome if people on consoles could just join the same online servers as those playing with PCs, so for games like this one, they could just release a Linux version of the server and let either console or PC users play on the same servers.
Once and for all showing console users that the mouse beats the crap out of a controller
Why is it they always concentrate on things like this when we all know the newsgroups is where stuff is at, are the internet newsgroups so untouchable that they just dont even try to mess with them?
The article is not that big a deal to me, but one way to get people to leave is to do that shit!
I still have the right to call the web designer a dumb ass.
If the time it takes for a signal to get to us from then is really big, then wont the first things we would hear from them, be like their first radio broadcasts ever?
I mean I would assume that the frst thing that aliens would hear from us would be early radio broadcasts, wouldnt the first thing we hear from anyone be the same?
Yea I read some more, and agree this book sucks, any other starter cisco book has got to be better than this!
I am really still shocked that the slashdot crowd here has not already torn this book apart with stuff like this in there:
"Many operating systems (windows-based too) use DOS commands for updates, patches, and maintenance. I know the Novell system frequently makes use of changing file attributes before applying new patches to the operating system. These are done with DOS-like commands. UNIX/LINUX is heavily DOS-command style oriented. If you want to get into computer security then you will have to live, eat, and breath DOS and UNIX."
What DOS has to do with Cisco is beyond me.
Maybe typing ping or something?
Cisco IOS is allot more UNIX like than DOS like. but even then its its own OS for sure.
Very nice retort, I agree completly.
The fact the people think its ok we let Bin Ladins family go free so quickly because he was a black sheep etc... is crazy I am sure we dont treat any other murders parents like this, and if we did there would be a out cry.
Also if you belive in allot of what Moore says or doesnt say is totally irrelivent, the big problem nobody seems to mention is that the press in the US doesnt bring any of this stuff up for public debate. All the ties between Bush - Saudi money - Laudins etc... should have been at least mentioned in the press and debated openly. This film definitly shows there is something worng, just in the fact that things have been hidden.
Your wrong, there was a presidential press conference were Bush totally lead people to think the the WMD were nuclear, followed by satellite pictures of what looked like mobile silos or something like that, anyway whatever it was it wasn't the size a persons leg.
I agree with you, maybe its because I am a fanboy of Moores also. But that is ok, I would much rather let Moore paint his picture than the shitty job FOX news has been doing over the last 4 years.
I think people are wrong about Moore, Back when I was younger I really used to think about tryng to shake things up, try to make people understand that I thought the government was corrupt and that allot of laws were wrong, there is a lesson there, its not nearly as easy as it sounds to be the person that no wants to agree with, people dont like you when you mess with things that they think are just fine the way they are. Sure Moore might be making money now, but I am sure it hasnt been a easy road, and making the decision in his life to try to speak up and make some comments others wont make is a good thing, wish more people were making documenties agaisnt the flow of the popular.
After watching F9/11 last night I really liked it, there are some things in there that I am sure some people with love to debate, but no matter what you have to addmit that there are allot of questions that no but Moore seems to be asking.
The is not a liberal politician around that even brings up half the dirt that Moore touches on.
Something is wrong when other liberals in the country dont ask obvious questions about Bush's ties to Saudi Oil money.
I know Bush supporters love to laugh that one off, but people better start taking this shit serriouly, I know that even though I am a democrate I know that most democrate's are corrupt, or they would be hitting the president with qustions alot closer to what Moores is saying.
Crackpot!
"Nobody really liked gore, he wasn't exactly leadership material, thats why it was so easy for bush to compete with him. It would have made more sence to have him run as vice president again for lieberman instead."
You must be joking, I guess you missed the fact that Gore actully won!
And all these problems having to do with copper wiring is why Fiber to the home is the holy grail.
No RF almost unlimited bandwidth and distance is not a issue depending on the power of the laser.
Problem most Telco's have right now is providing the life-line pots service they are using to giving customers. since getting power to the customer in times of ememergency is easier with copper.
Many are installing batterys etc... But sounds like using the old POTS lines just for the power is a good idea.
Thanks for pointing this out, I just got done reading the article and was going to post
the same, but figured someone had noticed this.
There is a big difference betwen being able to output HDTV and having a HD tuner, being able to record HD would be nice and also output it.
Also getting a standard 1080i signal out of a VGA port is not easy and I had never got it to look right on my toshiba using a ATI 8500DV AIW and thier crappy HD Adapter. this might be better with thier newer cards adn drivers.
Checkpoint not only has one of the best Firewall GUIs ever, it had the best log veiwer I have ever seen on a firewall, sorting stuff fast to watch live events that are getting droped or accepted are a huge time saver for trouble shooting fw problems.
Also I am currently running checkpoint NG with AI and ClusterXL on 2 Linux fround ends with fiber GIG-E cards in them. They run either in a load-balenced setup or HA.
VPN is easy to setup and very standard, much better that it used to be.
There is actully tons of things I bet a Checkpoint Firewall can do that your current home firewall can not. ISP redundency was addedd recently.
You can run it on Nokia hardware, Linux, Solaris, Checkpoints own OS called (Secure Platform), belive there is some other hardware out there you can this on also.
Also I think I talked to Phoneboy once, a long time ago, back when I was running 3.0 or something. It was through a reseller I was using or something, he had pointed me at the time to his website, I have to say it hellped alot, and I have used it ever since, and his mailing list daily. so I should give a thinks to him.
What's even worse is when Linux users seem to wonder why Linux on the desktop
don't take over windows, and talk only about hate for MS, but if they really wanted
to get rid of MS they would listen to stuff like this.
When this guy tries to explain what needs to be improved to get to that goal, people
say well design your own interface or don't use Linux then.
Like you hurt their feelings.
This guy is writing a rant that needed to be said.
Allot of trouble with giving control to users at the edge, where he hints in new
protocols that would allow the users to choose services, probably from other
providers rather than the transport provider, is that you almost in all cases have to be
able to control the priority of the packets through the IP network to allow most
media services to exist. the transport providers have to control this, they cant let the
users decide what packets take priority through their network. There might be ways
around this, let users mark priorities on their own packets but charge them for doing
so, but I don't know don't seem like it would scale, you simply cant have users
marking all packets with high priorities.
That would remove the the benefit of marking the packets in the first place. Right
now the transport providers are getting ready to role out things like 50mb DSL, not
so much for internet access, hell their connection to the internet wouldn't be able to
give all users 50mb to the internet, but are trying to role out video/voice service on
these lines.
Shit! now you tell me.
I agreee with you completly, were are my mod points when I need them, Thats why you have to read this yahoo article and laugh your ass off, I cant think of any way you can realyl secure email enough to charge people, hell if we could secure it we wouldnt need to charge people at all, thier whole argument is bogus and any one with a brain should be able to see that.
Microsoft especialy having the balls to even mention something liek this is laughable, there in secure OS and email clients have causes most the worm/virus based email problems around and then they say chanrging for that will fix it? with no mention how to secure not only the protocol but the OS in wich the application's run on. So charging for soemthing that we cant control enough to stop is the answer to stopping spam? Not to mention the tons of other issues David already mentioned above, even if they could control the open way that a mail server can just be setup on the internet now, where the people or even the virus or worm can just install a tiny mail server itself if passwords/encryption where a issue, mails server get compromised now.
I just signed up for the beta, and I am going to tell you I really hate that active x system checker they are using, I guess just as much as making people send a windows system text file or whatever some do.
The reason is, I have a Pent4 2.4GHZ machine with 512ram and a geforce3 video card, I think the processor is fine and the RAM could definitly be 1gig but the video card especialy is outdated.
I have been waiting for DOOM3 or HL2 or soemthing to make really want to upgrade, I updated the rest of my system when I got on the SWG Beta, for a Pent3 600mghz machine.
If I got on this beta and it ran crapy I would probally just go out and buy more ram and new video card, that is what makes me go by new stuff is the games coming out, but they tend to look at the system then decide if you should be on the beta. I understand they want to make sure people dont wast spots etc... But I really tend to buy my hardware when I have to, and just planed to wait till a game came out I really needed to get new stuff for and would.
Maybe this wont effect them picking my for beta as much as I think, but I would think they would see the video card and think "this guy will just whine and complain and tell people the game runs bad with this video card" etc...
Why is it that MSNBC has that the MyDoom Virus attacks Microsoft and not SCO?
2 &p 1=0
Is MSNBC(microsoft) so used to viruses targeting them that they dont understand?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=408085
Part of that artical:
"The government christened the new warning system by transmitting its first alert, about a newly discovered version of a fast-spreading virus known as "Mydoom" or "Novarg."
The cleverly designed virus, spread by e-mail, poses as an authentic error message and entices users to click on it to infect their computers. Infected machines were programmed ultimately to launch an automated attack against Microsoft's Web site.
"
QuakeI was definitly a great game, people that say id cant make a good game should be whipped repeatidly.
QuakeI and the release of Quakeworld I belive it was, when we finally started hearing more from Carmak and less from Romero since Carmack was working on client side prediction and working out the server client model was great.
The game is still a great MP game.
And at the time I had allot of fun playing the single player game just to see what was the first true 3D polygon based model engine. It was a awsome game, I still love it.
I smoke allot, and have for 15 years or so now, and my memory is terrible. Might just be me though.
Again people dont confuss VOIP with being over the internet all the time, it is simply "Voice over IP", IP does not equal Internet.
Most the time people assume they are talking about some shitty software and mic hooked to thier computer. Others might only think of VOIP as being in the last mile, liek a new VOIP PBX they just installed at work that lets them do some really cool shit.
VOIP can be all that and allot more, but what this is talking about it telco's racing to replace all their internal voice equipment with newer IP switchs that will save allot of time and money.
Also once telco's do that, Yes the goverment will want a good way to listen is on those converstations at the telco's CO, jsut liek they do now. The telephone companies will have to have a way to give they access to each phone call etc..
Man do people get confussed the topic of VOIP does not just pretain to your home internet connection what you might think you are getting away with calling someone over the unreliable internet.
THis has much much more to do with telephone companies changing out billions of dollars of older analog voice switching equipment to what will be ip a IP packet switched infrastructure.
It is a really big deal, and has a huge possibilities.
It is simply a matter of time before most interal telphone company traffic is IP and teh costs savings are very real, but would take awhile to explain.