To find it, I'd normally right click, view page info in firefox, switch to the media tab, and have a look for any Embeds on the page. This time 'view page info' wasn't available, so I simply went to the page with the movie I wanted, viewed the source, searched for ".mov", wget , realised it wasn't the real thing, cat , pulled the real URL out of it, and wget.
I can never be bothered setting up anything slightly more convenient for the once in a blue moon I watch these things, and I prefer to have the movie here, rather than streaming it, as I assume the first URL was designed to do; might as well use the bandwidth once and watch it as many times as I wish (or show it to as many people as I wish, if the laptop's disconnected).
Check/. from a few months ago, and you'll find a scholarly article linked on how skype works. They ain't hiding anything.
I remember reading the paper around November of last year (I've already linked to it this evening; it essentially covers what they were able to determine from watching where control packets were going. Since all packets Skype sends are encrypted, they don't know what exactly some are doing (for instance, they don't know how it performs name lookups just from watching where it sends packets, other than guessing compared to some of the other big lookup systems known to academia), but have a pretty clear idea of how it organises peers to convey audio (not entirely difficult in itself), and how exactly it overcomes NATs/firewalls (irritating and fiddly to set up correctly).
So no, they're not hiding anything, but only in the sense that they can't hide where packets go across networks. But the Skype folks aren't releasing any details, either, as far as I know.
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The only problem is that the protocol is proprietary and only Skype knows how it works.
There has been some effort put into figuring out the protocol. The control data itself is encrypted, but packet analysis to outline the behaviour of the protocol, and try to figure out just how it organises it's overlay structure has been carried out, and is potentially ongoing.
It depends on your local exchange. Bulldog offer 4Mbps broadband, I recall reading about them offering 6Mbps downstream on a handful of exchanges as well. ukonline are offering 8Mbps broadband.
It all boils down to BT increasing the capabilities of their exchanges as demand increases, and also on how close you are to the exchange.
When the data arrives through a network pipe, it's on disk ready to be crunched through whatever program you're running...
600 Megs a second. I'd be interested in seeing what sort of disk technology can handle that level of throughput. They must have some amount of buffering going on, hand in hand with the bonus that they're probably able to just stream the data to arrays of disks without really being too concerned about placement (I'm assuming the data transfer is essentially a sequential stream of data, not sodding great numbers of small files, of course).
Very true. Here at Glasgow, there have been groups looking at just why the numbers are falling. It's not as obvious as it seems. There's a downfall in numbers when the whole.com thing fell on it's arse, but there's a further downturn in numbers from people being less aware of what computing science actually is these days; schoolkids often equate computing to ICT, which is simply not the case.
Likewise, the job market is picking up again, but it's a lot more sensible now; companies just aren't throwing money around quite like how they used to any more. Perhaps it's worse in the States than elsewhere, or perhaps the Slashdot crowd are still in broken-record mode.
I too am not short on job offers, and I'm far from sending off my CV to any investment bank looking for the next batch of graduates. Perhaps it'll all hit something of an equilibrium; fewer jobs available across the board than 5 years ago, but also fewer good graduates to fill the positions available which are appropriate for them.
Most of the girls I know think that that's a waste of 2 perfectly good guys attention that could be focussed on them instead. Preferably at the same time;)You're referring to the girls you see on a daily basis -- the ones in the dirty movies -- aren't you?
Izzard never, ever wanted to take on the role, and I believe was never approached about it either. I think the tabloids made it up, and everybody thought "Actually, yeah, he would make a good doctor". Tom Baker even went as far as saying that Izzard had actually landed the role for the 9th Doctor, which clearly was not the case.
I think the best you'd get out of Five is "Family Affairs". Or perhaps some of their night-time stay-up-late-in-the-off-chance-of-seeing-nipple soft porn offerings.
The point was that it's not something that runs by default unless you log into Gnome.
Run gtk apps outwith Gnome, and you'll lose some settings. Someone else points out that after the settings daemon, a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 will be checked by GTK, though as I recall this isn't bulletproof (font settings not stored in the rc file change the moment the daemon is up and running, last time I toyed with it).
I have no problem with many daemons running, my point was purely that to have to carry this settings daemon around with you even when you're not using Gnome seems a bit excessive. Granted, anybody who truly gets off on using as few CPU cycles as possible isn't going to be using GTK-2.x...;)
Yes, what you suggest would be a substantial effort, but it all makes sense.
I particularly like:
Make all demons optional
Neither Gnome, nor KDE applications should be depending on any desktop-specific userspace demons. Make it possible to deactivate gconf, for example, and have applications read and write configuration files the classical Unix way, by one central switch. Make the sound demon optional, so that audio output could just be written (in old-fashioned, non-overlapping way) to/dev/dsp. Etc.etc. The demons might have some use for some people, for for many, they are just bloat and unnecessary complexity.
I always run a fairly minimal setup, due to preference rather than any burning desire to use as few clock cycles as possible. To have settings carry for applications like Gaim I use on a regular basis, I have to run 'gnome-settings-daemon' before starting any application such as this for them to look how I want them to look.
Sure, it's something I put into ~/.xinitrc and forget, but I could have saved myself some time many moons ago when I was figuring out just what the hell I was meant to be running for the application settings to carry.
I'm all for this third and final suggestion of yours:)
"It's about space exploration at its beginings"...
... and that's possibly what got me about Enterprise. It was supposed to be early space exploration, but they're out there in their billion dollar spacecraft which is seemingly almost as comfortable as those found in TNG, DS9, and Voyager. The universal translators are essentially already in full flow, there's a little too much computer control on the ship for the "just beginning" aspect to really grab me; presumably not so to those who are putting up the money:)
Perhaps I had the unrealistic expectation of something a little darker and edgier than what had gone before in Voyager, something a little more DS9, perhaps. Except in a ship.
"Exactly. I cringe every time I read about some clueless politician or corporate figure point to a fundamental part of the Internet and call it a new and emerging evil."
The irritating thing is though, that today P2P is synonymous with "downloading movies/music", even to a lot of people here on Slashdot, not just those "clueless politicians".
Most of the basic protocols on which the Internet was built were originally designed to be peer-to-peer protocols; simple things such as FTP were designed this way. The Usenet network is a good big example of P2P. This is what the academics are pointing out; it's just that corporate pressures have pushed a client-server model whereever it thinks is can make some money easily.
Thus, resurgence of P2P protocols to distribute copyrighted media in recent years, and suddenly media groups have a bandwagon to jump on.
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Here's the actual link to the fullscreen movie.
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To find it, I'd normally right click, view page info in firefox, switch to the media tab, and have a look for any Embeds on the page. This time 'view page info' wasn't available, so I simply went to the page with the movie I wanted, viewed the source, searched for ".mov", wget , realised it wasn't the real thing, cat , pulled the real URL out of it, and wget
I can never be bothered setting up anything slightly more convenient for the once in a blue moon I watch these things, and I prefer to have the movie here, rather than streaming it, as I assume the first URL was designed to do; might as well use the bandwidth once and watch it as many times as I wish (or show it to as many people as I wish, if the laptop's disconnected).
Check /. from a few months ago, and you'll find a scholarly article linked on how skype works. They ain't hiding anything.
I remember reading the paper around November of last year (I've already linked to it this evening; it essentially covers what they were able to determine from watching where control packets were going. Since all packets Skype sends are encrypted, they don't know what exactly some are doing (for instance, they don't know how it performs name lookups just from watching where it sends packets, other than guessing compared to some of the other big lookup systems known to academia), but have a pretty clear idea of how it organises peers to convey audio (not entirely difficult in itself), and how exactly it overcomes NATs/firewalls (irritating and fiddly to set up correctly).
So no, they're not hiding anything, but only in the sense that they can't hide where packets go across networks. But the Skype folks aren't releasing any details, either, as far as I know.
The only problem is that the protocol is proprietary and only Skype knows how it works.
There has been some effort put into figuring out the protocol. The control data itself is encrypted, but packet analysis to outline the behaviour of the protocol, and try to figure out just how it organises it's overlay structure has been carried out, and is potentially ongoing.
Paper here.
That's true, yes; I was just picking up on Space cowboy's implying that disks are uber-fast, when in fact the polar opposite is the case :)
It depends on your local exchange. Bulldog offer 4Mbps broadband, I recall reading about them offering 6Mbps downstream on a handful of exchanges as well. ukonline are offering 8Mbps broadband.
It all boils down to BT increasing the capabilities of their exchanges as demand increases, and also on how close you are to the exchange.
When the data arrives through a network pipe, it's on disk ready to be crunched through whatever program you're running...
600 Megs a second. I'd be interested in seeing what sort of disk technology can handle that level of throughput. They must have some amount of buffering going on, hand in hand with the bonus that they're probably able to just stream the data to arrays of disks without really being too concerned about placement (I'm assuming the data transfer is essentially a sequential stream of data, not sodding great numbers of small files, of course).
Depends on where you are. In the UK, the standard base package for ADSL is 256up/512down, with varying download bandwidths into the Mbps.
Dude, it's a screensaver. I've not heard anybody get that excited over a screensaver since the days of Windows 3.1.
Very true. Here at Glasgow, there have been groups looking at just why the numbers are falling. It's not as obvious as it seems. There's a downfall in numbers when the whole .com thing fell on it's arse, but there's a further downturn in numbers from people being less aware of what computing science actually is these days; schoolkids often equate computing to ICT, which is simply not the case.
Likewise, the job market is picking up again, but it's a lot more sensible now; companies just aren't throwing money around quite like how they used to any more. Perhaps it's worse in the States than elsewhere, or perhaps the Slashdot crowd are still in broken-record mode.
I too am not short on job offers, and I'm far from sending off my CV to any investment bank looking for the next batch of graduates. Perhaps it'll all hit something of an equilibrium; fewer jobs available across the board than 5 years ago, but also fewer good graduates to fill the positions available which are appropriate for them.
Fuck you, preview. Fuck you.
Most of the girls I know think that that's a waste of 2 perfectly good guys attention that could be focussed on them instead. Preferably at the same time ;)You're referring to the girls you see on a daily basis -- the ones in the dirty movies -- aren't you?
Izzard never, ever wanted to take on the role, and I believe was never approached about it either. I think the tabloids made it up, and everybody thought "Actually, yeah, he would make a good doctor". Tom Baker even went as far as saying that Izzard had actually landed the role for the 9th Doctor, which clearly was not the case.
http://www.daemonnews.org/200104/bsd_family.html
The Bill is on ITV, EastEnders is on Beeb 1.
I think the best you'd get out of Five is "Family Affairs". Or perhaps some of their night-time stay-up-late-in-the-off-chance-of-seeing-nipple soft porn offerings.
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That was pretty swift, even for Slashdot!
Of course it is. That's called functional programming!
I suggest you take some time to read up on functional programming.
(Disclaimer: I know what you're meaning to say, I'm merely pointing out that the term you used isn't what you think it is.)
The point was that it's not something that runs by default unless you log into Gnome.
;)
Run gtk apps outwith Gnome, and you'll lose some settings. Someone else points out that after the settings daemon, a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 will be checked by GTK, though as I recall this isn't bulletproof (font settings not stored in the rc file change the moment the daemon is up and running, last time I toyed with it).
I have no problem with many daemons running, my point was purely that to have to carry this settings daemon around with you even when you're not using Gnome seems a bit excessive. Granted, anybody who truly gets off on using as few CPU cycles as possible isn't going to be using GTK-2.x...
Yes, what you suggest would be a substantial effort, but it all makes sense.
/dev/dsp. Etc.etc. The demons might have some use for some people, for for many, they are just bloat and unnecessary complexity.
:)
I particularly like:
Make all demons optional
Neither Gnome, nor KDE applications should be depending on any desktop-specific userspace demons. Make it possible to deactivate gconf, for example, and have applications read and write configuration files the classical Unix way, by one central switch. Make the sound demon optional, so that audio output could just be written (in old-fashioned, non-overlapping way) to
I always run a fairly minimal setup, due to preference rather than any burning desire to use as few clock cycles as possible. To have settings carry for applications like Gaim I use on a regular basis, I have to run 'gnome-settings-daemon' before starting any application such as this for them to look how I want them to look.
Sure, it's something I put into ~/.xinitrc and forget, but I could have saved myself some time many moons ago when I was figuring out just what the hell I was meant to be running for the application settings to carry.
I'm all for this third and final suggestion of yours
"It's about space exploration at its beginings"...
... and that's possibly what got me about Enterprise. It was supposed to be early space exploration, but they're out there in their billion dollar spacecraft which is seemingly almost as comfortable as those found in TNG, DS9, and Voyager. The universal translators are essentially already in full flow, there's a little too much computer control on the ship for the "just beginning" aspect to really grab me; presumably not so to those who are putting up the money :)
Perhaps I had the unrealistic expectation of something a little darker and edgier than what had gone before in Voyager, something a little more DS9, perhaps. Except in a ship.
"Exactly. I cringe every time I read about some clueless politician or corporate figure point to a fundamental part of the Internet and call it a new and emerging evil."
The irritating thing is though, that today P2P is synonymous with "downloading movies/music", even to a lot of people here on Slashdot, not just those "clueless politicians".
Most of the basic protocols on which the Internet was built were originally designed to be peer-to-peer protocols; simple things such as FTP were designed this way. The Usenet network is a good big example of P2P. This is what the academics are pointing out; it's just that corporate pressures have pushed a client-server model whereever it thinks is can make some money easily.
Thus, resurgence of P2P protocols to distribute copyrighted media in recent years, and suddenly media groups have a bandwagon to jump on.
Oh christ yes, LaTeX. Get used to LaTeX, and you'll never use a word processor like MS Word again. At least, I didn't.
:)
I'd be particularly interested in finding out what he's using Excel for
Bear in mind however that I didn't say that these days were "bad days" ;)
The ST was a good machine.
... better days.
The MC68k is a good processor.
Brothers In Arms is an excellent album.
Ahh
Somebody's phone going off is always rather amusing.
It's even funnier when it's the lecturer's wife phoning him to see when he'll be home that evening.
Bob the Builder?