Some people actually do keep themselves in shape and are looking for every possible advantage. Even though most people riding $$$$ bikes have some weight to lose, that doesn't mean they all do.
Many people summarily criticize those who have light bikes/cars/skis/whatever because they could have more easily lost those 3 pounds by losing weight or taking a monster dump or whatever. But some of us already did that (the dump was excellent btw) and are still looking for more optimization.
I am one of those guys who is into having a light road bike. But I also treat myself the same way. There is probably less than 3 pounds I could lose off myself without negatively affecting performance. I recently bought a bike that was almost 5 pounds lighter than my previous bike. (and about $3k more) That's an improvement I couldn't have made any other way.
Optimization is just part of my personality I think. Back in the days of Quake2, I used to be a hardcore gamer. Now I bike. I like the side effects of the biking a lot better.
Anyway, there was no point to this. I just wanted to try to defend the weight weenies. Not that you were really attacking them/us.
Maybe. Mostly I was just providing another data point, since it seemed you were answering the question of "what happens when an suv hits a cyclist?" with "not much". (paraphrased)
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What city is this? I'd like to know so I can avoid going there. It sounds pretty poorly designed.
Car v. bike: I was flung across the intersection. Looked at my bike, crawled to the sidewalk. I gave my bike a kick, but realized I could not fix a bent fork, two destroyed wheels, and a very bent handlebar by kicking them. An ambulance showed up and took me to the hospital where I was treated for my injuries courtesy of the stupid driver's insurance.
Bullshit. I cycle to work and back everyday, and I've never been more overweight or unfit. Unless you're doing hundreds of miles a day, it isn't very good exercise.
That's absurd. Most bike racers in excellent shape don't ride that much, and many don't do any other exercise. When I started cycling, my health improved dramatically without making any other changes, and I damn sure am not riding hundreds of miles a day. I've never even hit 200 in a single day.
1. The UCI has a strong sense of tradition that lead it to quickly ban things that don't look like a bike Lemond, Merckx (sp) Gimondi (keep going back...) rode. Recall that the time trial bars in Lemond's era were a controversy and are strictly limited to time trial efforts. National organizations usually follow the UCI at the national level with regional events offering greater flexibility.
So you think it would be a good idea to allow aero bars in mass start stages/events?
3. Wind resistance is the still there if you are sitting in a canopy or not. It will still be the same style of racing. Relatively flat events usually end in a mass sprint. Hilly events usually end up with a tiny lead group and the rest come straggling in for 1+ hours afterwards. Recumbents would make everything faster on average, but that's about it.
They would make the climbing slower. I have seen this effect in person. Anecdotes to the contrary don't make this untrue. And they would reduce the importance of drafting, although it wouldn't disappear.
Cars allow you to go to places such as the gym which offers exercise options a hundred times as effective as cycling, which is very low in intensity.
Low intensity cycling is low in intensity. However, cycling can be arbitrarily high in intensity. How? Pedal harder. In fact, high intensity cycling is high in intensity. Ask any bike racer.
Also, the idea of driving to a special place to exercise rather than exercising during transportation as a means to save time seems kind of silly.
A forty minute bike ride is at most a ten minute car ride.
Amusing.
This is the start and end points of my commute last winter. I have since moved, but I used to average 35 minutes. Certainly less than 40. I would be amazed if anyone could make it in 10 minutes by any method other than aircraft. My experience biking in the city is that cycling tends to take about 50% longer than driving for given start and end points. I would estimate that a 10 minute drive is a 15 minute bike ride. Although in rare cases, I can beat cars across the city when traffic is heavy.
The rest of your points have been debunked already I see, but I just needed to comment on that one since it is especially ridiculous.
Not all Bents are fast, just as all uprights are not fast. The speed you can get on a bent is largely dependant on your engine. After riding 100+km (62+miles) on a bent nothing hurts. Compare that to an upright.
If you're hurting (other than muscle soreness) after riding 100km on a diamond frame bike, you're doing something wrong. I have ridden 180 miles in a day on such a bike and had absolutely zero soreness when I arrived, nor did I have any the next day. I have ridden on a recumbent too. Yeah, it's comfortable, but so are my bikes if I want them to be. You will be uncomfortable riding any bike if you are working hard enough, which is commonly the case for me since I do a fair amount of high intensity rides.
I also like to sprint and climb hills competitively. Good luck doing those on a bent. I'm not hating on bents. They seem cool to me, but don't try to say that df bikes are always uncomfortable. That's just not true.
I can't remember the last time I saw rot13 mentioned without without someone cleverly pointing out their habit of double or triple rot13. That would be a novel thing.
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... like backslashdot? Sounds pretty amazing.
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No need for caps lock.
Hahah, yeah, what the fuck is this? What if the terrorists were "role-acting" as normal passengers? Nice system.
Some people actually do keep themselves in shape and are looking for every possible advantage. Even though most people riding $$$$ bikes have some weight to lose, that doesn't mean they all do.
Many people summarily criticize those who have light bikes/cars/skis/whatever because they could have more easily lost those 3 pounds by losing weight or taking a monster dump or whatever. But some of us already did that (the dump was excellent btw) and are still looking for more optimization.
I am one of those guys who is into having a light road bike. But I also treat myself the same way. There is probably less than 3 pounds I could lose off myself without negatively affecting performance. I recently bought a bike that was almost 5 pounds lighter than my previous bike. (and about $3k more) That's an improvement I couldn't have made any other way.
Optimization is just part of my personality I think. Back in the days of Quake2, I used to be a hardcore gamer. Now I bike. I like the side effects of the biking a lot better.
Anyway, there was no point to this. I just wanted to try to defend the weight weenies. Not that you were really attacking them/us.
Peace out.
Most won't notice the difference, and they're smart? Intriguing case of cognitive dissonance.
Combining two audio sources adds their samples. Different from XOR.
Count me in. It's misleading. Why not call it "video games"?
Is that seriously what it's being called? Please, fix the name.
Dude: What are you doing?
Other: Just participating in some massively multiplayer e-sports on my handheld sporting platform.
It's a quote.
Maybe. Mostly I was just providing another data point, since it seemed you were answering the question of "what happens when an suv hits a cyclist?" with "not much". (paraphrased)
What city is this? I'd like to know so I can avoid going there. It sounds pretty poorly designed.
Car v. bike:
I was flung across the intersection. Looked at my bike, crawled to the sidewalk. I gave my bike a kick, but realized I could not fix a bent fork, two destroyed wheels, and a very bent handlebar by kicking them. An ambulance showed up and took me to the hospital where I was treated for my injuries courtesy of the stupid driver's insurance.
Given the force of the collision, I got off easy.
If you spend 20 hours a week watching TV, yes, I think you're "addicted".
I work because I'm "addicted" to getting paid.
I also admit to being "addicted" to bicycling.
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For years now. There are tens of thousands of cases (non legal definition) almost all of which are settled out of court.
Not the uploading
That was some lazy delivery. However, you could improve the sound greatly if you read up on topics such as EQ, compression, and microphone placement.
I ain't hatin', just trying to help.
That's absurd. Most bike racers in excellent shape don't ride that much, and many don't do any other exercise. When I started cycling, my health improved dramatically without making any other changes, and I damn sure am not riding hundreds of miles a day. I've never even hit 200 in a single day.
So you think it would be a good idea to allow aero bars in mass start stages/events?
They would make the climbing slower. I have seen this effect in person. Anecdotes to the contrary don't make this untrue. And they would reduce the importance of drafting, although it wouldn't disappear.
Low intensity cycling is low in intensity. However, cycling can be arbitrarily high in intensity. How? Pedal harder. In fact, high intensity cycling is high in intensity. Ask any bike racer.
Also, the idea of driving to a special place to exercise rather than exercising during transportation as a means to save time seems kind of silly.
Amusing.
This is the start and end points of my commute last winter. I have since moved, but I used to average 35 minutes. Certainly less than 40. I would be amazed if anyone could make it in 10 minutes by any method other than aircraft. My experience biking in the city is that cycling tends to take about 50% longer than driving for given start and end points. I would estimate that a 10 minute drive is a 15 minute bike ride. Although in rare cases, I can beat cars across the city when traffic is heavy.
The rest of your points have been debunked already I see, but I just needed to comment on that one since it is especially ridiculous.
If you're hurting (other than muscle soreness) after riding 100km on a diamond frame bike, you're doing something wrong. I have ridden 180 miles in a day on such a bike and had absolutely zero soreness when I arrived, nor did I have any the next day. I have ridden on a recumbent too. Yeah, it's comfortable, but so are my bikes if I want them to be. You will be uncomfortable riding any bike if you are working hard enough, which is commonly the case for me since I do a fair amount of high intensity rides.
I also like to sprint and climb hills competitively. Good luck doing those on a bent. I'm not hating on bents. They seem cool to me, but don't try to say that df bikes are always uncomfortable. That's just not true.
I can't remember the last time I saw rot13 mentioned without without someone cleverly pointing out their habit of double or triple rot13. That would be a novel thing.
What is non-solid about a bicycle?