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CexpTretical writes "The accumulation and focusing of knowledge may be the noblest use or purpose of the internet. There are plenty of open or unsolved problems left for this generation. Why not spend some of your time in the dark of this winter working on one of the big problems facing humanity? Open problems exists in almost every field of study. Wikipedia maintains a small list of them and at least one international group called the Union of International Associations maintains a database of open problems." Which problem do you want to see cracked first? Are you already working on one of these big issues?

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  1. One of the problems taken from wikipedia in econ. by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is the proper size and scope of government? Where can government intervention improve on the market? Does a market failure necessarily mean that government intervention is warranted? Can intervention make things worse? If the government intervenes in a market, how should it intervene? To what extent is public ownership of assets and businesses warranted?

    Yeah, good luck using the internet discussions to solve THAT problem.....

  2. Yes, I have a solution! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a truly marvelous proof of this proposition however this comment is too narrow to contain.

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    1. Re:Yes, I have a solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a truly marvelous proof of this proposition however this comment is too narrow to contain.

      What we need here is for a troll to post one of those good old-fashioned page-widening posts.

    2. Re:Yes, I have a solution! by Darby · · Score: 1

      I have a truly marvelous proof of this proposition however this comment is too narrow to contain.

      A pox on slashdot for fixing the page widening bug!

  3. Just solevd one! by quakehead3 · · Score: 1, Funny
    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolved_problems_in_ physics

    Does a black hole have an internal structure, and if so, what is its nature? no!
    1. Re:Just solevd one! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Of course a black hole has an internal structure, struct black_hole::internal; it's nature is that of a C++ class: Well encapsulated.

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    2. Re:Just solevd one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Does a black hole have an internal structure,
      > and if so, what is its nature?

      If no information can be exported from within the event horizon, is this a question of physics or philosophy?

    3. Re:Just solevd one! by hummassa · · Score: 1

      If no information can be exported from within the event horizon, is this a question of physics or philosophy? IANAPhysicist, but AFAIK quantum-entangled created on the vicinity of the event horizon separate, opening the possibility that non-local connections exist between a particle within the event horizon and its pair, outside the event horizon. Somebody told me other day that quantum-entangled pairs are not, in principle, capable of communicating with each other, but...
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  4. The ultimate problems? by TinBromide · · Score: 4, Funny

    What questions I'd like to see answered? Where do socks go in the laundry? Why do people obsess about the incongruities in gilligan's island? Why do good things happen to people who aren't me? 42. (now find me the question)

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    1. Re:The ultimate problems? by aborchers · · Score: 3, Funny

      "What questions I'd like to see answered? Where do socks go in the laundry? Why do people obsess about the incongruities in gilligan's island? Why do good things happen to people who aren't me? 42. (now find me the question)"

      To which I'd add, why do tornadoes only touch down in trailer parks?

      BTW, the socks one I can answer: They travel through wormholes and emerge in the back of the closet as spare hangers.

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    2. Re:The ultimate problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alternatively socks just get droped outside of the drum and end up in the bottom of the washer, either by the person puting them in the washer (top laders) or by crawling out of the drum thanks to the escape force created by the circular motion (front loaders).
      I discovered that the day a repair guy came home to fix the washer as he found in the barrel of the washer several socks I had thought lost in the twilight zone forever.
      But these days people just trash their broken washer and buy a new one, so this secret is kept between repair guys and socks shops. The truth is out there ;)

    3. Re:The ultimate problems? by inphorm · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well of course you have to add a few others like:

      - Where do those sneezes go when they don't eventuate??
      - How come only your fingers and toes get prune in the shower and nothing else does?
      - Why do we say "heads up" when we actually duck?
      - If a missing person sees their picture on a milk carton that offers a reward, would they get the money?

      And the one that really boggles my mind..

      Why are shorts, pants and underpants all referred to as pairs.. in fact they have no singular noun. You can have 1 Pair of shorts, 10 pairs of shorts.. but you can't have 1 short or 1 pant..

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    4. Re:The ultimate problems? by Nanpa · · Score: 1

      42

      The question and the answer are mutually exclusive. If both are known the universe instantly dissappears and is replaced by something more inexplicable. Or something along those lines.

    5. Re:The ultimate problems? by inphorm · · Score: 0

      Haha, I love that book.. Some very creative writing there.

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    6. Re:The ultimate problems? by danachap · · Score: 2, Funny

      One unsolved problem that has perplexed me for years:

      Why can't I fill up the entire toilet with bubbles?

    7. Re:The ultimate problems? by Dik+Zak · · Score: 1

      Don't you think this may already have happened?

    8. Re:The ultimate problems? by inphorm · · Score: 0

      You need a tank of methane to do that.. of course no smoking around bubbles.. they are very flamable.. heh

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    9. Re:The ultimate problems? by Ironsides · · Score: 1

      Why are shorts, pants and underpants all referred to as pairs.. in fact they have no singular noun. You can have 1 Pair of shorts, 10 pairs of shorts.. but you can't have 1 short or 1 pant..

      Ah, the dictionary is your friend for this one.
      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pant%20le g

      pant leg
      -noun
      a leg of a pair of pants.
      Also called pant.

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    10. Re:The ultimate problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trailer parks are built on low-valued land, i.e. where tornadoes touch down more often.

      (Well, it sounds truthy...)

    11. Re:The ultimate problems? by inphorm · · Score: 0

      Well that may be true, but you still can't wear a solitary pant out in public(unless you are on a float in certain festivals.. haha).

      Thank you for the reference though :)

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    12. Re:The ultimate problems? by fredrated · · Score: 1

      "Where do socks go in the laundry?"

      My brothers cat steals socks from the neighbors laundry, maybe he has some of yours.

    13. Re:The ultimate problems? by inviolet · · Score: 2, Informative

      - How come only your fingers and toes get prune in the shower and nothing else does?

      That happens because only dead skin absorbs external water and swells up. Hands and feet tend to be callused, where many layers of dead and dying skin have built up for protection.

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    14. Re:The ultimate problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone mod parent up! now i know.

    15. Re:The ultimate problems? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      Why do we say "heads up" when we actually duck?

      The other ones were kinda funny, but this one is just dumb. "Heads up" means raise your head up and look for the object heading toward you, perhaps from above. The proper defensive tactic may or may not be ducking -- it may be a quick lateral movement, it may diving under a safe spot, it may be covering your head with your arms, etc.

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    16. Re:The ultimate problems? by Whiteox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      OK. The 'Sock Conundrum'
      I've given up on this and now, regularly buy socks weekly. I know the cost can be prohibitive, but if you wear them only once, you can get 5 pairs for under $5 if you look around.
      There's no need to worry about quality, 'cause you only wear them once. There is no frustration because you know exactly where your socks are at all times - either in a shopping bag with sales tags on them, or in the bin.
      There are other advantages that are too numerous to list here.
      The way I manage to budget for them is to eat one burger less per week. The trick is however is to find a reliable sock merchant.

      Gilligan's Island was thoroughly understood by the Thermians - "Thermians, a peaceful and naïve cephalopod-like alien race who, having received twenty-year old transmissions of.... (Gilligan's Island) from Earth, and having no concept of fiction, have interpreted the show as "historical documents". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Quest

      So if you re-view Gilligan's Island as a 'History' then the apparent incongruencies are explained away by historical bias.

      "Why do good things happen to people who aren't me?" Next Week's Lotto Sweepstake's Result: xx xx x xx xx xx (xx) (xx)

      42? 6 x 7!

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    17. Re:The ultimate problems? by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      If you're talking about disapearing socks, I have a hypothesis about the socks problem. I think they might be going down the drain. I think this because when asking people what they thought was wrong with a clogged washer, more than one person suggested that there might be a sock clogging the drain, based on their own personal experience with washing machines. So at least you have a possible answer to one of your questions that isn't a joke.

    18. Re:The ultimate problems? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      You buy socks to wear once only? Wow, what a wasteful habit.

      When I buy socks, I make sure to buy 10 or 20 pairs at a time, and if possible of a generic brand that will still be available when I need to buy socks again.

      Then I don't care about correct pairing at all (almost: there are my socks, and those of my wife). Any two of mine will make a pair. Any one sock that is worn out is tossed (the other is kept), and any one sock that is lost is just a replacement for a half-pair...

    19. Re:The ultimate problems? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Honestly I have tried that. The problem is that after a while, with enough singles missing or overwashed, the elastic stretches, colour fades and so on. Then you have to find suitable and pretty much identical generic socks. Now this may sound easy, but I found that I had to throw out perfectly ok socks as they had a different pattern/style to the new bunch as I couldn't find identical ones. Ever try to wear an old sock with a new one? Not very comfortable. Also, as the wife occasionally buys the socks, she often (used to) get different ones or from a different manufacturer.
      I've also tried using an old pillow case. Just toss the dirty socks in there and presto! No missing socks. This didn't work too well as on a few instances, the pillow cases got dried and packed away as pillow cases unbeknownst to me. I also found out that flannelette pillow cases put lots of fluff onto apparently clean socks.
      School aged and/or teen aged boys tend to run off with them anyway.

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    20. Re:The ultimate problems? by dodobh · · Score: 1

      Return your geek cred as you leave.

      Forty-two is the answer to "What is six multiplied by nine?"

      http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=35 935

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    21. Re:The ultimate problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where do socks go in the laundry?

      Count your socks more carefully. Sometimes you gain a sock instead of losing one. On average it all works out.

    22. Re:The ultimate problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, the resulting sock never matches any socks currenty in your possesion. It does, however, often match the sock you threw out the weekend before due to lack of its pair.

    23. Re:The ultimate problems? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      A better question might be, "why does 'pant' have a singular name when you ONLY see them in pairs?"

      I mean, it's not like I wake up in the morning, choose my right pant then choose my left pant.

    24. Re:The ultimate problems? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Why do people obsess about the incongruities in gilligan's island?

      People are too busy obsessing over how Smurfs reproduce than to worry about Gilligan's Island.

      But, come to think of it... why DID so many space missions land there? And what was up with the WWII landing strip and abandoned bomber that they didn't notice until years had passed? How *do* you power a radio with coconuts?

      And robots playing the Harlem Globetrotters? That's ridiculous... everyone knows robots can't jump.

      Damn, well, there goes my day. Thanks.

    25. Re:The ultimate problems? by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      You may find this interesting, then:

      http://www.blacksocks.com/

    26. Re:The ultimate problems? by masterzora · · Score: 1
      Be sure to leave your geek cred right next to his.

      WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE

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    27. Re:The ultimate problems? by lhand · · Score: 1

      "... it's not like I wake up in the morning, choose my right pant then choose my left pant."

      So that's what I've been doing wrong.

      From now on I'll start choosing my left pant first.

    28. Re:The ultimate problems? by itwerx · · Score: 1

      why does 'pant' have a singular name

      Because they are created separately by the tailor. Also, historically, they could actually be different depending on the style of armor/weapons being used.

    29. Re:The ultimate problems? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      NOOOOOOOOOO!
      That's what Earth got wrong! That's why Thursday is such a problem! That's why climbing down the trees was a bad idea in the first place!

      (desperately hanging on to my Geek Cred whilst sipping a cup of Brownian Tea, eating fairy cake and having a nice hot bath!)

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    30. Re:The ultimate problems? by Jynx77 · · Score: 1

      42...What is a great game you can play with dominoes?

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  5. really? by macadamia_harold · · Score: 5, Funny

    The accumulation and focusing of knowledge may be the noblest use or purpose of the internet.

    That's your opinion. Midget porn afficionados would beg to differ.

  6. First date! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Which problem do you want to see cracked first? "

    How to get a date?

    1. Re:First date! by setirw · · Score: 1

      Already been done. Ah, those game theorists!

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    2. Re:First date! by jpardey · · Score: 1

      An engagement ring? That's all science can offer me? Maybe I should get into mathematics more and work on game theory applications to anonymous hookups... I could probably get a grant for that.

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    3. Re:First date! by The+Bungi · · Score: 1

      Whoa there, these are theoretically solvable problems we're dealing here. Let's not get all crazy. Let's concentrate on what we can accomplish as a species.

    4. Re:First date! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just wanted to let you know, I stole your sig to use as an away message.

  7. How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by kunakida · · Score: 5, Interesting

    how to list the world's problems.

    Seriously. The database sucked.
    If I wanted to find a problem to tackle, just finding a good one is problem enough.

    How about getting the problems
    -listed by multiple tags
    -filterable by area of interest, and skillset required
    -prioritized by relevance to science, to humanity, to marketability
    -sorted by difficulty, number of extant participants

    If you can't communicate why something is a problem, then you have two problems.

    1. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, it should give the current "closest" solutions to the problems, i.e., "Person A found that you can solve B as long as you know how to do a C on D."

      Btw, I never knew there was a "Union of International Associations". Talk about bureaucracy! My friends and I used to joke about an imaginary, incompetent organication called the "Federal International Comission" (FIC), but man, did we miss the gold mine!

    2. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by jd · · Score: 1
      I agree. I'd extend what you wrote just a little to make your last point stronger - finding the problem is not sufficient, if the problem is so badly phrased as to be a problem in understanding what the problem is.

      The "correct" way to list these problems is to have them easily searchable (as already said in parent post), but would then present a menu of different interpretations of what the problem actually is. Readers should be subject to exactly the amount of information they would find useful, neither saturated nor deprived. The first step in finding a solution is in defining the problem, but overdefining and underdefining are two common errors that lead to confusion.

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    3. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by constantnormal · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "If you can't communicate why something is a problem, then you have two problems."

      If we knew enough about the problems to do all the categorizations you suggest, then we would be pretty well on the way to solving them. But you're right about the so-called "database" of problems maintained by the UIA. They seem to be missing a description of the problem in many cases. I guess they confuse a name with a description.

      The Wikipedia list of unsolved problems is categorized by the discipline of science that they are (apparently) most pertinent to. In some cases, the same problem is listed multiple times. I find it to be a nice set of problems, but curiously brief. If these are all of the big unsolved problems, then we have a distinct lack of imagination.

      As to how one would go about ranking them as to difficulty, if you can do that even with problems that we know the answers to, you're a better man than I. In fact, I think that the question of how to rank problems by the difficulty they present is yet another unsolved problem. It very likely encompasses the framework of logic used to describe and solve the problem, with some problems that are quite simple in a sufficiently complex world-view being conundrums in a simpler world view.

    4. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by syousef · · Score: 4, Informative

      This kind of work is not something you take on by looking it up on a general encyclopaedia like Wikipedia. If you're at a point where you can actually make an attempt on such a problem, you're probably already familiar with specialist literature and you more likely than not have heard of the problem long ago and not yet tackled it.

      This would be a better place to start:
      http://arxiv.org/

      If you can't even understand the papers here in the field you've chosen, you've got a lot of work to do and it may even be easier to pursue it formally as part of a postgrad degree.

      The myth that you can just walk into a problem and solve it is rubbish. Einstein may have been a patent clerk when he had his breakthrough "miracle" year but he was looking at problems for many many years and got to know a lot of mathematical and scientific literature in a less than formal setting which is one reason he was able to see past all the old thinking and realise that things he was seeing (notably the Lorentz transformations/Michelson-Morley experiment) were literally true.

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    5. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by radtea · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Einstein may have been a patent clerk when he had his breakthrough "miracle" year but he was looking at problems for many many years and got to know a lot of mathematical and scientific literature in a less than formal setting

      Einstein had a doctorate in physics, which included all of the grounding he needed to understand the problems of Brownian motion (for which he won the Nobel prize and which is to this day his most-cited work) and the issues with electro-dynamics that led him to relativity. He started with an excellent, formal, disciplined grounding in his subject of interest. His position as a patent clerk was useful because it gave him the time to work undisturbed by actual job duties (patent office employment back then not being much different from in our own time.)

      While self-taught geniuses do exist (Ramanujan, for example) the vast majority of substantive contributions to any field are made by people with good formal grounding in that field. It doesn't matter how smart you are, nor how much of the literature you have read: formal education will help you learn the disciplines of mind and modes of thought that are the jumping-off point for new work. Nor does learning these things stifle creativity if you really understand them, as Einstein did.

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    6. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by syousef · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually he obtained his doctorate the same year he published his Annus Mirabilis papers
      See:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein#Works_and_do ctorate

      He certainly didn't wait until he had this formal education to think about relativity. He'd done most of the ground work years before. The setting was a much less formal one in which he started out with learning difficulties once fascinated by the mathematics largely taught himself and worked hard until he was outdoing his tutors.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein
      "From 1894, following the failure of Hermann Einstein's electrochemical business, the Einsteins moved to Milan and proceeded to Pavia after a few months. Einstein's first scientific work, called "The Investigation of the State of Aether in Magnetic Fields", was written contemporaneously for one of his uncles. Albert remained in Munich to finish his schooling, but only completed one term before leaving the gymnasium in the spring of 1895 to join his family in Pavia. He quit a year and a half before the final examinations, convincing the school to let him go with a medical note from a friendly doctor, but this meant that he had no secondary-school certificate.[4] That same year, at age 16, he performed a famous thought experiment by trying to visualize what it would be like to ride alongside a light beam. He realized that, according to Maxwell's equations, light waves would obey the principle of relativity: the speed of the light would always be constant, no matter what the velocity of the observer. This conclusion would later become one of the two postulates of special relativity"

      There are plenty of biographies on Einstein that go into more detail. I've read a couple.

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    7. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by failedlogic · · Score: 1

      Reading the current literature can be helpful in scientific fields. At the least, it might help by process of elimination which ideas will not work. I get the feeling as I'm completing my degree that too many papers are a regurgitation of previous works. Current literature might stop creative or legitimate attempts at solving problems. WIth more books and journals published than ever, it can't be any easier to stay "current".

    8. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by Lorenzarius · · Score: 1

      Einstein's Nobel Prize was actually awarded for his work on the photoelectric effect, not Brownian motion.

    9. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      does this somehow surprise you? Most nobel prizes and major work is done while people are still writing their thesis(or shortly thereafter). Just looked to the 19th century, lots of work was done at very young ages.

      now, with sepcial relativity, they are called the lorentz transforms because it had been found out long before 1905 that a different invariance is required for Maxwell's equations. Also, it was long known for Maxwell's equations that they predicted some universal speed for the propogations of waves. Because it didn't not obey gallilean(sp?) invariance is probably what led to Lorentz's (and I think Poincare's) work. Its been a long time since I've read this stuff.

      While I still think Einstein is one of the greatest physicists ever, his aura is falsely inflated with these stories of his working in a dark corner without interaction from the outside world. He was very well read and well educated and did his greatest work while having frequent contact wtih the great mathematicians and physicists of his time.

    10. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by Tragek · · Score: 1

      "There's bureaucracy under that association"

      "And what's under that?"

      "Bureaucracy"

      "and under that?"

      "'Taint gonna fool me on this one... it's bureaucracy all the way down."
      (Credit to Brad Warner)

    11. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by syousef · · Score: 1

      I think if you look at my first post on this topic you'll see that is exactly what I was saying - he was well educated and he simply saw what was there. You might want to actually read what I've written before launching an attack.

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    12. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by syousef · · Score: 1

      Well what are you waiting for? Go correct that Wikipedia article, and cite a couple of references to back up what you're saying.

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    13. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      The myth that you can just walk into a problem and solve it is rubbish. That entirely depends on the nature of the problem, sometimes part of the problem is how you think about the problem. Your initial impulse will be to relate the current problem with past problems and past methods.

      Training and indeed language restrict the approaches you take to a problem and when I talk of language I am thinking both of human and computer languages.

      One of the obvious problems of translation is that some concepts do not translate very well in human languages and for that matter in computer languages.

      to take the old saying if all you have is a hammer then all problems look like nails.

      Someone with a different skillset will approach a problem differently, and often the different approach is what is needed. It might take a specialist to actually solve a problem but it may not be a specialist who sparks a new approach.

      Of course this isn't true for all problems.

    14. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by kabocox · · Score: 1

      As to how one would go about ranking them as to difficulty, if you can do that even with problems that we know the answers to, you're a better man than I. In fact, I think that the question of how to rank problems by the difficulty they present is yet another unsolved problem.

      I think that best "rank" of difficulty is years, decades, or centuries left unsolved. If we can solve some 600 year old problem with computers, yeah go humanity, but that doesn't mean we've solved all of those 600-700 year old problems that only phds in any given field even know about. I don't know if age left unsolved would be a proper rank, but it would help divide problems into "new" to humanity and those that have been around awhile. I think that both the old and the new problems need solving. In 500-600 years, how many of the problems that we've just discovered will remain "unsolved?" We need to focus on both sets otherwise we'll close off entire branches of knowledge because we never solved some "basic" to that field problems.

    15. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by radtea · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean to suggest that Einstein didn't think about these problems while completing his formal education, but wanted to emphasize that Einstein's academic background was a good conventional education in the physics of his day. I perhaps mis-read your post as suggesting that Einstein was primarily self-taught in physics, whereas nothing could be further from the truth.

      It is further worth emphasizing that his now-famous thought-experiment is not quite so transparent as it might seem to the non-physicist.

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    16. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 1

      Errrr... that's what the Wikipedia article on Einstein already says. The Nobel prize was awarded for his work on the photoelectric effect. Am I missing something?

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    17. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by igny · · Score: 1

      the question of how to rank problems by the difficulty they present is yet another unsolved problem.

      That is meta-problem.

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    18. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      They're under the Associated Federation of Organizations. You can read about them here: http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2006/1 2/31/scripts/rhubarb.shtml
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    19. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by syousef · · Score: 1

      From the Wikipedia article:
      "Einstein had a doctorate in physics, which included all of the grounding he needed to understand the problems of Brownian motion (for which he won the Nobel prize and which is to this day his most-cited work)"

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    20. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 1

      That quote doesn't come from any Wikipedia article I'm aware of, but from a quote further up in the thread from "radtea". If you look here it states many times that Einstein was awarded the Nobel prize for his paper on the photoelectric effect.

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    21. Re:How about somebody taking on the problem of ... by syousef · · Score: 1

      My mistake then. I assumed that since I'd quoted Wikipedia, and the poster was complaining that it was in the Wikipedia article.

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  8. I read it on the internet by macadamia_harold · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What is the proper size and scope of government?" Yeah, good luck using the internet discussions to solve THAT problem.....

    It does seem to be an out-of-control problem. According to wikipedia, the size and scope of the government has tripled in the last six months.

    1. Re:I read it on the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Sadly, while I'd like to make a jab like that implying that as the Democrats took Congress, government size tripled... the Republicans of the last six years haven't exactly been the lean mean spending-cutting machines that they once could portray themselves as.

      Where's a Libertarian when you need one?

    2. Re:I read it on the internet by PresidentEnder · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here!

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    3. Re:I read it on the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see the problem. You're Here. This implies you're not in Congress. :P

    4. Re:I read it on the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Years, not months. The size of the deficit is um........... Staggering. The amazing part is how much money can be spent on getting nothing at all done.

    5. Re:I read it on the internet by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      WHOOOOOSH!

      None of you guys got the joke which referenced Stephen Colbert's show, The Colbert Report. On that show he asked all of his viewers to edit the Elephants article on Wikipedia and state that the Elephant population has tripled in the last six months.

    6. Re:I read it on the internet by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And according to my most recent Wikipedia reading, this is entirely due to Congress being taken over by Elephants in the midterms (apparently comprehensively beating out the Martians who'd held the majority for the last sixteen quintillion years).

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    7. Re:I read it on the internet by rbannon · · Score: 1

      The republicans were never ``lean mean spending-cutting machines''. They in fact (Reagan too) are big time supporters of massive government.

    8. Re:I read it on the internet by gbulmash · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And according to my most recent Wikipedia reading, this is entirely due to Congress being taken over by Elephants in the midterms (apparently comprehensively beating out the Martians who'd held the majority for the last sixteen quintillion years).

      Actually, Congress was taken over by donkeys, who ended years of elephant domination. Martians have actually been guiding things behind the scenes.

      - Greg

  9. Time travel by lavid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Solve time travel so I can be the first poster. Anyone have a DeLorean? Plutonium, or maybe pinball machine parts to get some plutonium with?

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  10. Which problem do you want to see cracked first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, if someone can do something about the guy in the cubicle next to me...

    Adler likes to hum as he works, not too loudly, just enough to break thru the usual office background noise. That would be distracting enough, however, Adler insists on choosing his nasal-tunes by whatever the last audible ring tone was that blared thru our locality. The ring tone/tune sticks in his head, and he hums it over and over, out load, until the next tune gets stuck in his borderline consciousness...I mean tone...I mean...urrgggg. And when Adler isn't humming, he's speed/redialing busy phone numbers via his on-hook speaker phone.

    So, if someone can help Adler to find something else to do with his excess work energy, I'd be happy to focus on whatever 'world' problems are deemed most pressing.

    1. Re:Which problem do you want to see cracked first? by inphorm · · Score: 0

      Maybe get a ringtone on your phone with a subliminal message built in.. like "Adler shut up" or something equally discrete. Maybe even convince Adler to quit his job, or just stop humming.. Then again you could always find a couple of songs you like and get him to hum them by playing them on your phone.. haha

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    2. Re:Which problem do you want to see cracked first? by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Kidnap Adler on a dark night. Leave him tied up in a tunnel at the It's A Small World ride at Disneyland. Soon, his head will explode. Problem solved.

  11. object to definition of "Open Problem" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    from link in story: "... for which a solution is known to exist but which has not yet been solved". For many open problems, a solution is not known to exist. Indeed, many open problems turn out to have no solution. An example is if no solution can be derived from the axiomatic system in question, since the answer is "independent" of all the axioms, or other times the solution can be the proof that no solution can exist, e.g. for the halting problem. It was an open problem, you were looking for an algorithm, and bam, some wise guy proves that you can't find it. In that case, certainly, a solution was not "known to exist".

    1. Re:object to definition of "Open Problem" by Garse+Janacek · · Score: 1

      Sort of true, but in the situation you describe, a proof that no such algorithm exists (e.g. finding integer zeroes of multivariate polynomials -- provably undecidable IIRC, which is a bit surprising) would commonly be considered to "resolve" the open question, even though it wasn't maybe the particular resolution we would have preferred.

      However, in most (nearly all?) cases, open problems are not nearly so poorly specified: often there is a definite answer even if (as you point out) there may theoretically be no way to prove what that answer is. P=NP, for example, is definitely either true or false, though it is possible (though unlikely) that ZFC is not powerful enough to prove which. However, independence results are not nearly as common in mathematics as they are in popular imagination (except perhaps in formal logic, where they are one of the main subfields, and in some parts of set theory), and this is an obstacle that almost never comes up in practice.

      I will agree, however, that the wording in the article is overly sloppy, and could have been rephrased in a way less likely to have confusing/ambiguous connotations...

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    2. Re:object to definition of "Open Problem" by khallow · · Score: 1

      Other problems (particular the nonmathematical ones) aren't problems in all axiom sets/belief systems. For example, somewhere prostitution is listed as an open problem. But if you legalize prostitution, then you can apply the whole of modern legal infrastructure (eg, worker protection, how to hire/fire someone, workplace safety, etc) to it. It becomes a job rather than a problem.

      A similar phenomena is that some problems are special cases of more general problems. Slavery should be (and usually is) illegal and should be vigorously prosecuted, but isn't due to corrupt legal or social systems. But there's little point to try to fix slavery, if you never look at the corrupt systems that allow it to fester.
    3. Re:object to definition of "Open Problem" by SamSim · · Score: 1

      For many open problems, a solution is not known to exist.

      Semantics. In that situation, the problem is actually "Does a solution exist to this problem?" The Halting Problem wasn't "What Turing Machine will determine whether any another Turing Machine will halt or not?" The Halting Problem was "Does that Turing Machine exist? If so, what is it?" and the answer, the solution to the Halting Problem, is "No".

  12. Try this at home by shma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's one from mathematics that caught my eye. The goal is to find out whether 78,557 is the lowest Sierpinski* number. All but 8 candidates have been eliminated and there's a project called 17 or bust which is working on the last eight. As their name suggests, the project has personally eliminated 9 numbers already.

    * Some of you may recognize Sierpinski from the carpet which bears his name.

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    1. Re:Try this at home by JoshJ · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, the Sierpinski triangle. Zelda nuts recognize the first iteration as the Triforce.

  13. What actually has to be done to solve problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For example how would you go in P=NP?

    Where does one start after understanding the problem?

    1. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by AuMatar · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would start by dividing both sides by P, leaving the solution: N=1.

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    2. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You start exactly where the last person to work on it left off.

    3. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by loserMcloser · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you divide both sides by P you are throwing away the possibility that P=0.

      The proper thing to do is to manipulate it as

      P=NP
      P-NP=0
      (1-N)P=0

      => P=0 or N=1

    4. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by A.K.A_Magnet · · Score: 2, Informative

      You look for a P (polynomial) solution to a problem being known as NP-Complete (ie, in the NP class). Those problems (aka "hard" problems) have a best known algorithm of non-polynomial complexity (ie, the time to compute the algorithm is non-polynomial in function of the entry, making it impossible to compute for high values of the entry). It has been proven that if you find an algorithm of polynomial complexity for a problem of the NP class, then P=NP (because you could then transform any non-polynomial algorithm into an equivalent polynomial algorithm the same way you did in the first place). All it takes is to find *ONE* algorithm of polynomial complexity/time for an NP problem. The problem is, nobody has been able to find any, and people have been searching for quite some time now :) (that's why everybody thinks P!=NP). Good luck proving P=NP then ;)

    5. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by sangdrax · · Score: 1

      Actually, to prove P=NP it suffices to prove that a P algorithm exists for some NP-complete problem. You don't have to supply the actual algorithm or the actual NP-Complete problem it solves. Just a proof that it has to exist suffices.

    6. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

      You should revise the subject a bit IMHO. For example, NP-complete does not mean "in the NP class"; (NP-)hard problems are a different class from both of the above; "non-polynomial" should read "tending to infinity faster than a polynomial" (even floor(n/2) is non-polynomial...)

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    7. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      Yes, it would be really funny if it was proved that to get the algorithm for solving NP-complete problems quickly, you had to solve a really huge NP-complete problem first. Sort of a self-encrypted cosmical joke.

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    8. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by rbarreira · · Score: 1
      Well, you should probably start by reading related literature. Understanding the problem is easy, knowing the state of the art in complexity theory is much harder, and, even though I can't say I know it, I do know that this problem seems to be much harder than it would initially seem. Read here, for example:

      The practical consequence of this is that any proof which can be modified to account for the existence of these oracles cannot solve the problem. Unfortunately, most known methods and nearly all classical methods can be modified in such a way (we say they are relativizing).

      Furthermore, a 1993 result by Alexander Razborov and Steven Rudich showed that, given a certain credible assumption, proofs that are "natural" in a certain sense cannot solve the P = NP problem (see natural proof). This demonstrated that some of the most seemingly-promising methods of the time were also unlikely to succeed. As more theorems of this kind are proved, a potential proof of the theorem has more and more traps to avoid.

      This is actually another reason why NP-complete problems are useful: if a polynomial-time algorithm can be demonstrated for an NP-complete problem, this would solve the P = NP problem in a way which is not excluded by the above results.
      This makes it scary enough for me. Unless, of course, the hope lies in the last paragraph I pasted, but most scientists don't think that P=NP.
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    9. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      If ineed P=NP, discovering an algorithm that solves a NP-complete problem on polynomial time is a NP-complete problem.

      Of course, it is also polynomial, what makes things much more funny...

    10. Re:What actually has to be done to solve problems? by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Or you try to solve a exponential time problem with a NP algorithm (proving that P!=NP), or you search the space of programs for some solution for a NP-hard problem, and proves that there are no one... There are lots of ways to see if P=NP.

  14. It's official. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would just like to mention that with your contribution, Fermat has just become the most parodied mathematician in the history of the world.

    Congratulations. Here's to another 400 years!

    1. Re:It's official. by solafide · · Score: 1

      As far as I know he's the most parodied scientist in the history of the world :)...

    2. Re:It's official. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mathematicians are not scientists and mathematics is not science. Science does experiments and analyzes data to reach conclusions. Mathematics (at the most fundamental level) postulates certain axioms, creates definitions of mathematical objects, and then comes to conclusions about those objects based on the fundemental axioms and definitions. The processes are completely different.

      -A mathematics grad student

    3. Re:It's official. by Dan+D. · · Score: 1
      One could consider Einstein's thought experiments as not really experiments at all, but logical constructs... I'm not sure what you'd call that, really, but its definitely not "doing experiments and analyzing results to reach conclusions."

      On the other hand I'm a just a computer scientist grad disconnected about whether I spend more time running experiments or reasoning about my (sometimes theoretical) constructs...

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  15. My little attempt by eliteisland · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Disclaimer: This is a bit of self promotion.

    Surprised to see this article so I thought I'll talk a bit about a website
    I newly created (http://www.opinomics.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ) .

    Not much content at this stage but it's a website to gather feedback about companies, organised by cities. The rationale is that if we can focus the feedback into one convenient place, we can help to address information asymmetry that exists between companies and customers.

  16. I swear this is not my homework by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which problem do you want to see cracked first?

    The factors for x^2 + 5x + 6 please, showing work.

    1. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Gabrill · · Score: 4, Funny

      (x+2)(x+3) the work was done in my head. My teacher hated that.

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    2. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -3 and -2, Vieta did it.

    3. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jebus! google it! Its the second friggin link!

    4. Re:I swear this is not my homework by sokoban · · Score: 1

      Looks like somebody needs to lern2quadraticformula, noob.

      http://www.purplemath.com/modules/quadform.htm

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    5. Re:I swear this is not my homework by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      264203x^2 + 673918x + 388979
      If you don't want people to solve them in their heads, make the questions harder...

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    6. Re:I swear this is not my homework by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      (x+1.2753753742387482352584944152792)(x+-1.2753829 441755014136856886560713)

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    7. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on, that's what Student of Fortune is for... you've got to put up the money to get the answers. :)

    8. Re:I swear this is not my homework by mattkime · · Score: 1

      >>(x+2)(x+3) the work was done in my head. My teacher hated that.

      Mod +1 - Me too

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    9. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have got a long double head.

    10. Re:I swear this is not my homework by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Now check your answers by putting them back into the original equation.

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    11. Re:I swear this is not my homework by RackinFrackin · · Score: 1

      (x+2)(x+3) the work was done in my head. My teacher hated that.

      Your teacher must have been nuts. What type of work did he or she to see? Scratch work? (pointless) The quadratic formula? (overkill) I've taught math for nearly 10 years and I can't imagine wanting to see any intermediate steps when factoring a quadratic polynomial with two integer zeros.

    12. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No credit for you. Those are the zeros of the polynomial, not the factors.

    13. Re:I swear this is not my homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      should get credit for knowing how to apply Viete's formula

  17. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Very funny, but I actually consider that the most important question of all, because if you know the answer to that, you can generate the wealth necessary to trivially solve all of the others. Look at all the nations of the world and observe what a huge difference the choice of government makes!

    It's also the hardest because it's extremely difficult to perform a scientific experiment to test it. There are millions of variables to control, and uncontrollable, and you can't grab X governments at random and make them do something, dividing them neatly into control and test groups. (That's why it's hard for people to come to agreement about the matter.)

    Could MMORPG's and realistic computer models of human economic behavior change this? Maybe.

  18. Distributed computing... by Excelcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like an attempt at distributed computing... without the computing part.

    Log into web site, check out work unit, complete unit, check in results, rinse and repeat.

    There is an assumption in this sort of thing that there is a large enough untapped pool of relevant expertise to make this sort of job distribution effective. Is this actually just a study on whether or not that assumption is correct, or has someone really made that assumption and is expecting success?

    I have troubles believing that this is really an effective means for tackling some of the listed problems.

    1. Re:Distributed computing... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      Is this actually just a study on whether or not that assumption is correct, or has someone really made that assumption and is expecting success?

      Sounds like what you've got there is a good open, untackled problem.

  19. colours! by invisage01 · · Score: 1

    i've often thought about this one myself! i think it's a really interesting concept?! Perception of color See also: Grue (color) The question hinges on whether color is a product of the mind or an inherent property of objects. While most philosophers will agree that color assignment corresponds to light frequency, it is not at all clear whether the particular psychological phenomena of color are imposed on these visual signals by the mind, or whether such qualia are somehow naturally associated with their noumena. Another way to look at this question is to assume two people ("Fred" and "George" for the sake of convenience) see colors differently. That is, when Fred sees the sky, his mind interprets this light signal as blue. He calls the sky, "blue." However, when George sees the sky, his mind assigns green to that light frequency. If Fred were able to step into George's mind, he would be amazed that George saw green skies. However, George has learned to associate the word, "blue" with what his mind sees as green, and so he calls the sky, "blue," because for him the color green has the name, "blue." The question is whether blue must be blue for all people, or whether the perception of that particular color is assigned by the mind.

    1. Re:colours! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely blue is blue for everyone, because they've learned that the arbitrary label we've assigned to that frequency of light. I see what you are getting at though.. :)

    2. Re:colours! by veganboyjosh · · Score: 1

      i've wondered about this for years. i've also never been able to put it so succintly so as to explain it to friends.

    3. Re:colours! by inphorm · · Score: 0

      I've often wondered about this and how on earth would you test for it. I tried explaining it to a friend of mine, who just looked at me as if I had lost my mind.. which is probably a very appropriate response.

      My dad asked if I was on drugs when I asked him.. somethings just shouldn't be brought up with your parents.. even when you are 25 and married.. lol

      thanks for the wording of the question and the perfect explaination.

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    4. Re:colours! by maxume · · Score: 1

      Ask a bird, they mock our mutant nocturnal monkey color perception.

      Also, what did you say that doesn't fit into "Is my blue your blue too, or is it green to you, I have no clue."?

      Sorry about the small words.

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    5. Re:colours! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that different languages don't all recognize distinct words for all "variations" of colors.

    6. Re:colours! by Tim_UWA · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's not just colours, but the whole visual sensation. Perhaps what one person perceives as sight is completely different to another.

    7. Re:colours! by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      "Grue (color)..."? It is pitch black, you are in danger of being eaten by one...

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    8. Re:colours! by tchuladdiass · · Score: 1

      I've thought of this before also, and came to the conclusion that (unless someone is colorblind) everyone does preceive colors the same way. The reaseon: consistant emotional reaction to various colors. Now some of these reactions can be explained by association -- red is "hot" because fire is red, and blue is "cold" because of ice, and skin turns blue when cold. But there are certain colors that most people will consider ugly, and certain ones that most will agree as soothing. And there are common accepted notions of which colors "match" or "go together".

    9. Re:colours! by maxume · · Score: 1

      Those perceptions are moderated by language, experience and environment; there is a good chance a child picks up on at least some of their parent's behavior and emotional response, and there are studies showing some relationship between words for colors and perception.

      Re colors matching and going together, please see, "the '70s".

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    10. Re:colours! by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A lot of people have wondered this (it's a fairly famous philosophical question), and I think the answer is... it's not a valid question to even ask. There's no such thing as "color", it's simply what we choose to name the signals that come from our eyes. It's like asking whether two people perceive the sensation of a needle prick versus a blunt strike in the same way. Do you percieve what I think of as a needle prick as a blunt strike? Of course not, because we've named the physical sensations as what they are -- sharp pain versus dull pain.

      Same with color. The color "blue" is perceived as "that which causes the blue photoreceptors to be stimulated". There is nothing that literally turns "blue" in your mind that might turn "green" in my mind. We both have blue and green photoreceptors, and we both name the signals in the same way.

      Bottom line, the whole question means nothing.

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    11. Re:colours! by bjorniac · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is actually answered by Wittgenstein (amongst others) - it's actually not that complicated. You just associate a word with an input into your mind (the sky is blue). Now, all human eyes work the same way, so if you swapped George and Fred's eyes, they would see the same things. Likewise with visual cortices.

      However, inside the mind, you're actually into linguistics - what is perception of "blue" other than seeing something that is blue? Well, "blue" is just a word, I could call blue "bleu" and green "vert" being perverse (or French, if you please). Do the French see different colours to us? Well, that would seem silly, so the logical recourse is that the name of the word is but a name. All we can know of the mind of someone else (barring psychic powers, and other science fictions) is the response that is given by a person - they tell you that they see blue, or a certain (set of) neuron(s) fires.

      Similar things have been done with birdsong - do all birds hear song the same way. Well, so far as it is ever going to be possible to know (above assumptions about psychic powers made), yes. They have the same reaction.

      Now, I know that this may not be satisfactory, but for those who know a little mathematics, you could call them identical up to isomorphism - if you give two things a complete set of inputs and they output the exact same thing as one another for each, you call them isomorphic (or identical). In that case human brains are identical.

      See: http://acp.eugraph.com/news/news03/margoliash.html and various others for the bird references.

    12. Re:colours! by nick1000 · · Score: 1

      The question can be reduced to the question : "Is there another way to represent colors which is totally independent of wavelength? And whether color perception is built into humans physically or do we learn it.". I have no answer.


      For discussions sake, let us assume that we are on the verge of building a robot with visual perception. Now how do we make sure that he sees red as red (my brand of red) etc. The answer is simple: We don't. We just let is process based on the wavelengths on its sensors. And then program a particular band of wavelength to mean a colour.

      In short it doesn't matter what color he actually sees(much like human's today). But what if the internal representation is not related to wavelengths and there exists a way to copy from one such bot to another. Then a)The copy can be done easily b)There may be a total color mismatch or c)The representations differ so much that such a transfer requires a translator. And as soon as we use a translator we can always recover the original image.

      a) will occur if the visual perception is built into the bot physically,else if some form of learning algo or a ANN structure is used c) is much more probable.

    13. Re:colours! by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      And there are common accepted notions of which colors "match" or "go together".

      Couldda fooled me...

    14. Re:colours! by eyewhin · · Score: 1

      Blue is a word used to describe how we perceive a particular wavelength. If Fred sees the sky and says that it is blue and George likewise, then they are both "seeing" the same color. To prove this, take a variety of objects of different color and have Fred and George independently describe what they are seeing. Assuming that they are not suffering from a physical deficiency, they will correctly state each time what color they are seeing and their results will match perfectly.

      If I choose to name the color of they sky black, then everytime I see the color blue, I will call it black and everyone else will call it blue. It will, however, have the same wavelength, regardless of who is seeing the color. This particular wavelength has been universally called blue. Is the number one not the same for everybody, regardless of what they call it? Eins, uno, one, un, etc.... These are simply labels that we attach to the phenomenon.

      David

    15. Re:colours! by bjorniac · · Score: 1

      Excellent. I tried to say the same thing but I think you've got it more succinctly.

    16. Re:colours! by tchuladdiass · · Score: 1

      Couldda fooled me... Notice how I said common, not universal.

  20. Easy by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny
    • What is the proper size and scope of government?
      No larger than necessary
    • Where can government intervention improve on the market?
      In places where unrestricted market forces are detrimental
    • Does a market failure necessarily mean that government intervention is warranted?
      No
    • Can intervention make things worse?
      Yes
    • If the government intervenes in a market, how should it intervene?
      In a way that maximizes overall social wellbeing
    • To what extent is public ownership of assets and businesses warranted?
      To the extent that it ceases to be harmful to the overall health of society
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  21. oh, yeah, the Riemann hypothesis by straponego · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was going to do that this weekend, but, with one thing and another... Tell you what, remind me Friday.

  22. That's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easily, the largest problem which the world faces is the modern mental illness of feeling like you have to impose your chosen religion onto other people.

    Solve religious fascism, of all flavors (Moslem fascists, Christian fascists, Jewish fascists, Sikh fascists, Hindu fascists - the list goes sadly on and on...) and we will all have enough time for all of those other problems to eventually be worked out.

    Or, humans can keep stupidly embracing the virulent pathology of religious hegemony, coupled as it is with the perverse and bizarre orgiastic pleasure these religious pathologists seem to take in massive worldwide death and destruction (like the equally stupid Christian and Moslem ideas of Armageddon followed by a rapture or heavenly virgins), and we'll have no time for all of those other problems.

    If we continue following religious idiots into the world suicide seemingly desired so pornographically by the world's religious nuts, none of any of those other problems will matter.

    1. Re:That's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course those religious "idiots" could argue that you have your own "religion" that you are trying to impose on to them, whether your beliefs include a deity of any sorts or not, they are still beliefs.

      Everyone has a religion or a set of beliefs. Yours may or may not tie to any mainstream religion, but even atheism and agnosticism are religions of sorts. Heck, in some countries football or some other crazy sport is their "religion"

      You know the country that tried to remove religion from the equation and get the "perfect world" that you are talking about? It used to be called the USSR.. it failed miserably.

    2. Re:That's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone has a religion or a set of beliefs. Yours may or may not tie to any mainstream religion, but even atheism and agnosticism are religions of sorts.

      You've got a good point there. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to return to the hobby in which I was engaged prior to reading your post, which is not collecting stamps.

    3. Re:That's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could they argue that I have my own "religion"? Sure, I'll buy that - fair enough.

      Could they argue I'm trying to impose it on them? Nope. And that's the difference between us. I'm respecting anyone to believe any religious beliefs they want to. If their religion says abortion is bad ... then don't have an abortion. If their religion says alcohol is bad... then don't drink alcohol. If their religion says women should not reveal too much skin ... then wear long dresses. If their religion says certain types of TV programs are bad ... or playing music ... or flying kites ... or watching sports ... or whatever it is ... then don't do it.

      See how easy that is?

      The freedom that others experience living in a *different* way from them is not an imposition. The ONLY thing it imposes on is their wishes that others lived less freely, in the manner that they do.

    4. Re:That's easy by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      If their religion says proselytize, and you forbid it, then you're imposing your beliefs on them, restricting their freedom to evangelize.

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    5. Re:That's easy by inphorm · · Score: 0

      And what if their religion says that they need to influence others into their beliefs? ie - Muslims, Christians, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses. Even football fans argue about teams and try and convince one another that their team is better than another.

      You would be imposing your belief upon them by saying not to follow their own beliefs..

      There is no such thing as 0 conflict, you can't have all ideas being simultaneously true. It's a nice ideal though :)

      - paul

      http://www.paulpichugin.com.au/

    6. Re:That's easy by inphorm · · Score: 0

      Oh.. I should probably refresh the page sometime before I post my comment, that way I don't repost what someone else has said better than I can.. lol

      - paul

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    7. Re:That's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If their religion says to rape little children and I forbid it, then I'm imposing my beliefs on them too, restricting their freedom to rape little children.

    8. Re:That's easy by LordLucless · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep. So you should stop basing your morality on the principle that absolute freedom is the pinnacle of goodness. Absolute freedom is functionally equivalent to anarchy.

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    9. Re:That's easy by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Where is the inherit evil in anarchy? Ever consider it might be the pinnacle of goodness?

    10. Re:That's easy by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      Only trendy pseudo-political students. I wonder if any of them have ever lived through a period of anarchy, or examined countries and times that have. It isn't like the little theoretical anarchy they discuss over latte. When there is no rule of law, then rule of strength is the order of the day. Anarchy never stays truly anarchic - it always becomes structured, usually towards tyranny. The strongest person can beat up the weakest without fear of reprisal from authority (as there is no authority), those with lots of friends can persecute the friendless, likewise without fear of reprisal. Which leaves the weak and friendless the perpetual victims, until strong people step in on their behalf, which is the basics of feudalism. Anarchy, like communism, only works if everyone involved is essentially good to begin with. And people aren't.

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  23. Not "easy" but "facile". by ChameleonDave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe that got modded "Informative" when the exact opposite is true. People, "Informative" does not mean "echoing my own beliefs".

    Let's just look at the first empty thing said:

    • What is the proper size and scope of government?
      No larger than necessary

    That's a pointless truism. In this context, proper=necessary. So, you have essentially said that the proper size is the proper size, giving zero information. Even a fascist believes that the state shouldn't be larger than necessary — they just believe that a totalitarian police state is necessary for order.

    Perhaps if someone asks you what size USB connector is the proper one to go in a certain digital camera you will answer "One no larger or smaller than necessary". What a way to avoid answering a question whilst convincing airheads that you have done so!

    1. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I was actually shooting for "funny". I was giving short, bland answers to what were supposed to be thought provoking, discussion generating questions. I guess it was one of those jokes that play better in your mind than in reality.

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    2. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by JoshJ · · Score: 1

      can't believe that got modded "Informative" when the exact opposite is true. People, "Informative" does not mean "echoing my own beliefs".

      *snip*

      That's a pointless truism.


      Wait, so is it true or false?
    3. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by AlHunt · · Score: 1

      I can't believe that got modded "Informative" when the exact opposite is true. People, "Informative" does not mean "echoing my own beliefs".

      Let's just look at the first empty thing said:

              * What is the proper size and scope of government?
                  No larger than necessary

      That's a pointless truism.
       
       
      Actually, it's almost Zen like. Too bad there's no "+1 "Zen" modifier"
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    4. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by alienmole · · Score: 1

      That's a pointless truism.
      Congratulations, you were this close to actually getting the joke, which despite the OP's modesty in his response to you, was actually pretty good. Now read the other answers. What do you notice about them? Write an analysis, it'll help you reason about it.
    5. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other words, Slashdotters are constantly making vain attempts to be funny?

      That's a revelation to me.

    6. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by alienmole · · Score: 1

      They're only "vain" attempts when the readers are, shall we say, deficient in the non-logical arts.

    7. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by aug24 · · Score: 1

      You're not quite right: he has permitted the case where the government is smaller than necessary. So he things the proper size is anything from nothing up to just enough to the job.

      Presumably he's a wavering anarchist.

      HTH.
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    8. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misunderstand. He's saying it's the opposite of informative, because it says nothing not obvious (and indeed, little that isn't stated in the questions).

    9. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by TCM · · Score: 1

      Yes.

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    10. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      It is just not vain to the ones not initiated at communication arts.

      Now, dont consider that if you where trying to get a funny post... I'd mod you that way, but people here seem to disagree.

    11. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by ChameleonDave · · Score: 1

      They're only "vain" attempts when the readers are, shall we say, deficient in the non-logical arts.

      You mean lacking a sense of humour? Who are the ones with a bad sense of humour: the ones not laughing, or the ones telling jokes nobody laughs at?

      And Slashdotters wonder why they never get laid...

    12. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by alienmole · · Score: 1

      I mean, among other things, deficiency in the ability to detect communications that aren't intended literally, such as irony, sarcasm, and yes, humor. Humans use non-literal communications for all sorts of purposes, and not all of them have to end up in a belly laugh. Your comment about "echoing my own beliefs" was close to the mark, since the OP's responses echoed the questions quite cleverly, which could certainly have led some moderators to mark the comment as Informative. Then again, that may also have been an example of the moderation system being used ironically, since Funny mods don't give the recipient karma. Don't take everything you see at face value.

    13. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by ChameleonDave · · Score: 1

      I don't support or recognise abuse of the moderation system.

      If you mod a post something X, then be prepared to be criticised if the post is not X.

    14. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by alienmole · · Score: 1

      Ah, but are you sure that the post isn't X? By giving the answers it did, the post in question demonstrated something about the vagueness of the questions. Quite informative, in its way.

      As for supporting or recognising abuse of the moderation system, it's an interesting exercise in the law of unintended consequences, arising from removing the karma benefit from Funny mods. Why do you support and recognise the arbitrary choices of "lawmakers" (the Slashdot admins) which lead to such unintended consequences, while not supporting (or recognising, wow) a natural reaction to those consequences? Is it blind respect for authority and (written) rules, or perhaps simply that you hadn't thought about it? What if I told you "it is an unwritten rule of Slashdot that...", would that change your perspective?

    15. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by ChameleonDave · · Score: 1

      Ah, but are you sure that the post isn't X?

      Yes, it clearly is not. I point out that the questions weren't answered, and people say that it was supposed to be funny, not informative. I point out that it was not funny, and people try to say that it was informative because it showed the questions to be vague. Bizarre. If the writer wanted to say they were vague, he should have commented "the questions are a little vague". This comment would still be stupid because the questions were no vaguer than the political reality that they represent.

      As for supporting or recognising abuse of the moderation system, it's an interesting exercise in the law of unintended consequences

      No, it's not interesting. People abuse nearly any system they are presented with. I don't care about their excuses. People are given good tools to work with, and they should used them properly. Progressive views should not be modded "trolling". Posts recognised as excellent by nearly all should not be modded "overrated". Idiotic jokes should not be modded up. (Slashdot has such a subculture of bad jokes and tired clichés that a special euphemism, "meme", is used to refer to them.)

      If they insist on finding the unfunny funny, they should mod it "funny", and not something else. If they personally want to see more "funny" posts, they have only to add a "funny" modifier in their prefs. I have a respect for good rules and standards.

      I'm getting tired of this.

    16. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by alienmole · · Score: 1

      Has anyone ever called you inflexible?

    17. Re:Not "easy" but "facile". by ChameleonDave · · Score: 1

      No.

  24. open software for writing to NTFS volumes by Falladir · · Score: 1

    The summary invites me to say which problem I would like solved. It would make things easier for a lot of people if we could write to NTFS without running Windows.

    1. Re:open software for writing to NTFS volumes by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

      i thought that had been done. see NTFS-3G

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    2. Re:open software for writing to NTFS volumes by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      It also mentioned open/unsolved problems. This isn't one of them. (there are windows driver wrappers that can, along with the driver, do it)

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    3. Re:open software for writing to NTFS volumes by Falladir · · Score: 1

      Cool, I've got it installed and working. Thanks for the tip. I must have gotten from an outdated article the idea that this was an unsolved problem. Do you happen to know what will happen to my machine if ntfs-3g has a problem? Basically, am I putting the drive at risk, or just the data that I'm writing at any given time?

  25. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What is the proper size and scope of government?

    That's easy. It's the government that maximizes the probability of human survival.
    If there is more than one maxima, it is the one that maximizes human achievement.
    If there are still multiple solutions, it is the one that maximizes human happiness.
    Finally, pick the smallest government that will accomplish this.

    Now you only have to solve for survival, achievement, and happiness.

  26. Does software count? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    because, I would like to see a dynamic relational database built.

    1. Re:Does software count? by newt0311 · · Score: 1

      dynamic as in no limit on size and type of data? It would be simple to do but would also make the db very close to worthless. The entire point of the DB is to constraint data as much as possible. Its a verification mechanism. why do you think DBs go to so much trouble to implement things like foreign keys and constraints? Its far from easy. It is vey hard to do this effectively but it is necessary to fulfill the purpose of a DB; to store information and act as a last line verification method for that information.

    2. Re:Does software count? by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Constraints could be added as needed, including "type" constraints. It would be flexible that way. Plus, the static model is hard to write "meta" features with. And it could be useful for quick prototyping.

      One example is a relational GUI system. Different widgets have different attributes. Either you make an entity for each widget, or you make the attributes dynamic. Existing RDBMS don't handle this problem very well, and that is perhaps why we have crap like DOM. If relational tools were more flexible, then DOM wouldn't exist.

    3. Re:Does software count? by newt0311 · · Score: 1

      RDBMS for a GUI??? WTF? RDBMS are for storing large sets of data which need to accessed quickly by numerous different applications. If any of those two requirements is not present, an RDBMS would probably be like using a nuke to take out an ant. No wonder you are having problems.

    4. Re:Does software count? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      RDBMS for a GUI??? WTF? RDBMS are for storing large sets of data which...

      Who says? Relational would be good for more than just "big-iron" DB's if it was dynamic. I think relational structures are superior to OO/navigational/XML structures, if only the relational engines were geared toward such usage. OO and navigational is messy in my opinion. In the mid 80's smaller-scale things were starting to go table-oriented, but the OO hype haulted that trend. I am hoping to bring that kind of thinking back.

    5. Re:Does software count? by newt0311 · · Score: 1

      so... what you are looking for is a way to store a reasonably small amount of data with few constraints instead of relying on XML/OO/navigational structs. Interesting idea but wouldn't the querying result in too high an overhead. When I heard that, the first thing in my mind were python lists and dictionaries as being idea for the job...

    6. Re:Does software count? by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      I suppose your GUIs are written with a tab separated text file backend, right? Do you recommend excel for a website's user management system as well?

    7. Re:Does software count? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Lists and dictionaries are wimpy. It is possible to create a simple query language on top of dynamic tables. But I was thinking of bigger projects/DB's also. Remember, I am not ruling out constraints, etc. They can just be added incrimentally when and if needed. Dynamism is a good thing IMO.

    8. Re:Does software count? by snadrus · · Score: 1

      sqLite.org has a typeless database. Tables must be static, but you could create one with a high number of columns.

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    9. Re:Does software count? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      sqLite.org has a typeless database. Tables must be static, but you could create one with a high number of columns.

      SqLite is half-way there. If they could add "automatic" colomns and perhaps even (optional) automatic tables, then we could have the full power of dynamicy. The problem is that the bigger the sqLite organization/build gets, the more they try to be like Oracle. We need a dynamic alternative to Oracle.

    10. Re:Does software count? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I suppose your GUIs are written with a tab separated text file backend, right? Do you recommend excel for a website's user management system as well?

      I used to use a lot of "desktop database" tools like ExBase (dBASE clones) and MS-Access. With these tools it was easy to create and edit a specification table. The "Big-Iron" databases are not so friendly. However, if desktop or nimble DB's are not available or not approved, then I suppose Excel with CSV exports may be something to try.

  27. not a new idea by invariant · · Score: 1

    The Internet is already used by scientists and others to post ideas about how to solve important problems. Just look at slashdot.

    Seriously, there is a lot of interesting stuff out there if you are willing to sift through the trash.

    The arxiv.org site is another example of a non-institutional forum in which people (scientists, mostly) post their ideas without the constraints of peer review. It actually works pretty well.

    Last but not least, yes, I have almost finished solving an important problem, but I am not planning to publish the solution. Maybe give a hint or two. See if anybody gives a damn.

  28. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by shobadobs · · Score: 1

    Bullshit. The one that maximizes freedom. Fuck survival.

  29. Re: Want to Take On An Open/Unsolved Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? Could it carry a coconut?

    How about an African swallow?

  30. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by failedlogic · · Score: 1

    I believe the most important, before figuring out the rest about the size of government is: "How do I mimimize my income tax and maximize my return?". If we can figure out the answer to that question, only then can we asnwer all other questions about government.

  31. searchable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about adding a search interface. There are particular topics I've spent years working on and found one of them listed as an open topic 10 years ago. Is it still open?... I cannot tell.

  32. I've been working on something similar, feedback? by chrisgagne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Take a look at open-source software. It's collaborative, usually high-quality, and responsive to people's wants and needs. Apache and Linux, for instance, are two prime examples of how people coming together can do quite a bit in the world, even if in a limited way. Other fields of pursuit have an opportunity to capitalize the lessons learned in the software industry. Applying some of these lessons to the nonprofit sector could result in a greater net impact for society. It is possible to apply ingenuity to hundreds of real-world problems if we have a collaborative organizational structure. We've seen a couple of examples. For instance, look at http://openprosthetics.org/. This group has applied the open-source model to design better prosthetics, and a few of their prototypes are better than anything currently available on the market. I've been working on researching this topic for the last three years. Here's my story: In December of '03, I read an article in the New York Times about the World Bank Development Marketplace. A group of farmers in Zimbabwe struggled with a herd of elephants trampling their crops. With a $108,000 grant from the bank, they discovered that planting chili peppers around their crops deterred the elephants and provided a valuable cash crop. I asked a friend, Sandy, what she would do to prevent elephants from eating her crops. Pulling from her childhood experience, she suggested without coaching that the farmers plant marigolds around their crops. After all, marigolds kept the deer out of her vegetable patch! Perhaps marigolds would not deter an elephant. Suppose, then, that Sandy were a member of an online group hosted by Usenet newsgroups, Yahoo! Groups, or Google Groups, seeking a solution to the elephant problem. I am certain that she would have made a similar suggestion, and that the group probably would have recognized both its strengths and weaknesses. There is no guarantee, however, that this group would include the botanist, zoologist, or ecologist necessary to explore this seed of an idea. Let's then consider another recent innovation, the social network. One such network, Friendster, has a good search engine that permits finding people based on their interests. 210 people in my "network" have botany as an interest. 252 people enjoy elephants. 17 like Zimbabwe. Over 1,000 are interested in sustainable development. Might any of them be willing to spend five minutes to answer, "Are there any plants elephants don't like?" Over the last three years, I've developed a site called Cerbumi.org ("to brainstorm" in Esperanto) that combine these two tools. A carefully-designed mailing list system allows for rapid real-time discussion and brainstorming, while a flexible membership database allows project facilitators and other members to find expert advice. Built-in reputation-scoring and availability tools allow members to dictate clearly how willing they are to respond to certain kinds of inquires, and to whom. An executive summary is located at http://about.cerbumi.org/executiveSummary, and a Flash-based demonstration is located at http://cerbumi.org/flash/. What are your thoughts? Do you think this is a useful tool? Would you be willing to spend a few minutes of your time working on various projects?

  33. 42. (now find me the question) by piinkfloyyd · · Score: 0

    "42. (now find me the question)" this has already been answered in Douglas Adams' book I believe (Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy)

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  34. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by DrIdiot · · Score: 1
    Very funny, but I actually consider that the most important question of all, because if you know the answer to that, you can generate the wealth necessary to trivially solve all of the others.

    Money didn't prove Fermat's Last Theorem.

    A lot of the time it takes more than money; it takes insight, ingenuity, and devotion. Money helps because then more people are trying to solve the problem, but it doesn't make it trivial.

  35. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit. The one that maximizes freedom. Fuck survival.

    The freedom to do anything you want is called "anarchy," and I'm not sure it can be considered "government."

  36. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by newt0311 · · Score: 1

    finally somebody realizes the value of survival over happiness. mod parent up a lot please.

  37. how many... by qw0ntum · · Score: 1

    licks to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

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  38. Good old joke by JFMulder · · Score: 2

    On the list of unsolved problems, there's N = NP . I'm browsing at +3 here, so I don't know if someone already made the joke and it has been modded down to oblivion because it has been told so many times before, but I'll always remember when the teacher asked in class "Is P = NP" and some guy who probably read the joke online said "Yes, P = NP if N = 1".

    1. Re:Good old joke by FrangoAssado · · Score: 1

      "Yes, P = NP if N = 1"

      Or if P=0.

      (sorry about ruining the joke :-))

    2. Re:Good old joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't ruin - that's the complete joke ("if N=1 or P=0").

  39. Choose a problem by philipgar · · Score: 1

    Why not spend some of your time in the dark of this winter working on one of the big problems facing humanity?

    This has to be one of the dumbest submissions to slashdot that I've seen in a while. Looking over the CS section of the problems (the only category I'm really qualified to review), I see 2 problems related to P=NP. Yes, this is a problem I'm going to solve in my spare time this winter. If the other fields problems look anything remotely like this one, good luck.

    In all honesty, I don't think you're going to see real problems listed on a site like this. the problems are just in such niche areas, and more importantly in many field people don't want to share what the problems are. This is because coming up with what the problem is is half of the work. In computer engineering for instance you might have an idea that looks to speedup application XYZ (or a general class of applications), and then you come up with what problems need to be solved to implement your solution. Then of course you actually solve them. If coming up with the problem was easy than so many PhD students wouldn't have such a difficult time coming up with a thesis topic. When students do have an idea in mind, and potential solutions, they tend not to share them until they are ready to publish. Otherwise others may beat them to it.

    Finding a good way to come up with what problems need to be solved is a very good problem on it's own. It takes immense knowledge in most fields just to have a good concept of the ideas that are being looked at, and having some idea of the solutions that have been proposed, and what is a reasonable next step. If such problems were easy to solve, we'd like have a lot more PhDs out there.

    Phil

    1. Re:Choose a problem by mochan_s · · Score: 1

      This has to be one of the dumbest submissions to slashdot that I've seen in a while. Looking over the CS section of the problems (the only category I'm really qualified to review), I see 2 problems related to P=NP. Yes, this is a problem I'm going to solve in my spare time this winter. If the other fields problems look anything remotely like this one, good luck.

      Actually if you look at almost every CS presentation in a seminar, it always ends with a page on unsolved problems and such. The problem with computer science is that the open problems are really vague. For example how to make internet throughput faster by using a different routing than IP?

      n all honesty, I don't think you're going to see real problems listed on a site like this. the problems are just in such niche areas, and more importantly in many field people don't want to share what the problems are. This is because coming up with what the problem is is half of the work. In computer engineering for instance you might have an idea that looks to speedup application XYZ (or a general class of applications), and then you come up with what problems need to be solved to implement your solution. Then of course you actually solve them. If coming up with the problem was easy than so many PhD students wouldn't have such a difficult time coming up with a thesis topic. When students do have an idea in mind, and potential solutions, they tend not to share them until they are ready to publish. Otherwise others may beat them to it.

      IMHO, I think coming up with a thesis topic is difficult because you don't want to tackle a problem that'll take you more than 2 years and not a problem that could be done in a week. You want a publication and problem. Design a protocol for an type of network and you can put enough simulation and analysis stuff to make up a thesis or journal paper.

      But, you're also right. Sometimes a new problem to solve seems hard to get. In mathematics, especially, where the professor sort of guides a student through a set of theorems and you don't even see anything that could be done anywhere else partly because the professor wants you to do his problems at the end of the chapter that sort of ingrain his view of the subject.

      Finding a good way to come up with what problems need to be solved is a very good problem on it's own. It takes immense knowledge in most fields just to have a good concept of the ideas that are being looked at, and having some idea of the solutions that have been proposed, and what is a reasonable next step. If such problems were easy to solve, we'd like have a lot more PhDs out there.

      From mathematical logic and theoretical computer science, there are uncountably infinite problems. Finding a problem and solving it, or publishing an article is easy. The hard part is finding something that will be relevant I think.

  40. one answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "What caused the great depression?"

    That's an easy one. It was a planned controlled crash due to the ability of the private central bankers (who had just relatively recently wrested control of the currency from the actual people) and the big brokerage houses to manipulate the currency supply and the issuance and trading of stocks. It was designed as a heist, a big one, a wealth transference gambit, hidden under color of law and "whoops, an unfortunate accident!". It was an amazing success. They keep doing it, too, just now they have gotten more sophisticated and do it on smaller but longer time scales. they realise huge crashes/heists could lead to "social instability" where their own exalted personages would be in physical peril, so they don't go that far anymore, just close enough.

    On a small scale, here is an example that is easy to see, you cannot just "save money" and have it retain value. They artificially inflate the money supply well past what true productivity would indicate as a balanced and accurate growth rate. This is called inflation. So, to "beat inflation", and not have your money "drop in worth", they highly recommend to you that you invest in "stocks", which they also control. And the stocks of today bear little resemblance to the true original meaning, in design or practice. They maintain the name for the most part, and that's it. These create the problem, then offer you *their* solution to the problem, which still goes to benefit them, not you. Also see:Dialectic.

    It's a long running con, people get sucked into it all the time, because without careful thought and planning, you will "lose" no matter how hard you work or try to save. You may not find out you have lost until years later, but believest thou, it is designed to make you lose, and to keep you satisfied up to that point with poker chip monopoly numbers.

    You see, they really like the notions of aristocracy, with them as the aristocrats. This is no longer quite as popular as it used to be, because the peons don't like that notion or word, so they had to come up with a dodge where they can hide behind other titles and practices, to keep their serfs faked out, but for all practical purposes,they can still live the same way-as aristocrats-as they always did. And this goes on for generations.

    Our own US founding fathers warned us about both notions. They warned against private central banks controlling the currency, in detail I might add, with all the legitimate reasons (two presidents were..ousted in a rather severe manner when trying to break that up,as the problem kept being reintroduced, Lincoln and JFK to be specific), and they also set up the public charter system for corporations originally to first be of the public interest, and any profits for the corporations were secondary, and had to always default to being of the public interest when in doubt.

    Notice both those things are no longer true, and now we have a lot of problems.

    And before the brainwashed economists troll their way in with their indignant stutterings, answer one question-how many shares of stock do you hold in any of the 12 private federal reserve banks? Oh ya, that's right, you don't, and can't, it's a closed system. Well, who owns it then? Answer, other banks, domestic and foreign, who are allowed to "loan" money, and then charge interest to you, in persona and through your alleged government, from a supply that doesn't exist, has never been audited, and has no official oversight. They can create this supply at will, a huge amount. That's where the "fractional" in fractional reserve banking comes from. And what else do these banks do? Well, they "invest", like in ...media companies. Go do some research and see who actually is the ultimate controller of the MSM in its various forms. We had another president who tried to warn his people about it. see:Ike, retirement speech

    Sweet deal for them right? A perpetual modern aristocracy, except in name. The

    1. Re:one answer by bmgoau · · Score: 1

      This is bullshit sorry.

      The question "What caused the depression?" is not ment to imply we have no clue as to its cause, it is simply a question which relates to the varying degrees of factors involved. For instance the Stock Market Crash, and its own causes, is known to have played a large role as well as international trade and curreny at the time.

      Suffice it to say, you can "hypothesis" that a few people in the mid-twenty's were able to predict, control, deal with and would want to cause a depression as much as you want, but you have no proof.

      Its hard enough today to predict a local economy let alone the world economy today. Such a feat in the late 20's would have been near on impossible. I will give you that there are certain people and organisations who weild the ability to effect global supply and demand, mainly supply such as is the case in cartels and monopolies. But in the whole scheme of things they are but small players, and as well calculated as their moves are today they are still frought with danger against the inherint impredictability of the economy. Yes im aware of the snowball effect, but you 'cannot' tell that a group of investors part of a secret organisation in the late 20's were able to predict and profit from its path.

      See what you and others like yourself get wrong every single time is one simply fact. People. History is made by people. We're not in a movie. Im sure the government has things it doesnt want us to know and im sure there are shady business deals going on in every economy everywhere in the world, but this is still reality. Let me jog your memory, People are born, most are raised by loving parents, they get an education, find work and raise and love their own families. Yeh some people are pure evil, but their predisposition is to destruction themselves. The idea of a group of business people over 100 years old who have the mentality and pacience, and intelligence and lack of love to profit from and cause all the pain of the depression is the most unlikely of mixes. Surely they would also be able to predict how close it brought the world to communism. Economists and business people like to play a game of calculated risk. Im not an economist, but i can tell you right now, causing and attempting to profit from the greatest depression in human history is a risk no one would take, let alone a banker or bank.

      You have no correlations, no consequence, no evidence, no proof and no clear story or sequence of events like any theory should. All you seem to do is forget the hundreds of millions even billions of people out there who all play a role in the economic system at a discernable level, as each and everyone of them makes their own consumer based choices on the success and failure of companies.

      You are wrong. People are people, some are good some are bad, but we dont live in a movie, There are not people who happen to be economists, intelligent enough, both evil and patient enough to predict and profit from the great depression. And while im sure some people did profit, they most certainly did not engineer it. A good example is how People always ask why we havnt blown ourselves up yet, or why the cold war didnt destory the earth, and i just give them examples of those radar watchemen during the cold war who ignored missile warnings, they're people, none of them on either side wanted to die. Technology might be wonderous, the history of the world terrible, but behind the scenes there is always a beauitful serenity to things that is not recorded in bold, be it the love in a family or the generosity and compassion of some companies and business people.

      So i wish to finish on a note, because i feel you are as angry at capitalism as you are at these intelligent-risktaking-all-knowing-predicting-econ omists who ignored communism and human suffering to profit from a seemingly unpredicatable event nearly 100 years ago.

      And here it is. Capitalism sucks. Thats right it sucks. The continual battle for economic freedom each of us

    2. Re:one answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People that attempt to reposition nuclear arsenal as a defensive weapon seem evil to me. It isn't a movie and you'd really have to use your imagination to make it a happy ending. Make no mistake - there are people who trade lives for economic freedom - you are just lucky it isn't your life this time.

      I don't believe in the concept of economic freedom - I'm going to work until I'm dead.

  41. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Trivial" might have been an exaggeration, but the point remains: if economic resources are nearly superabundant, you can devote a lot more people to tasks like proving mathematical theorems, and more importantly, you will have better mathematical training. It's true that you don't really need lots of economic resources* to prove Fermat's Last Theorem, as anyone can in theory, arrive at the answer. It just helps immensely.

    *I don't want to say "money", because what's important is what the money lays a claim to. You seem to be equating money with wealth, which is emphatically not the case. Wealth is what people value; money is an intermediate good in the exchange of wealth. You can easily create more money, but you can not easily create the value of the things it lays claim to. Having the right political/economic system is what I believe would have the largest long term wealth on the ability to provide wealth -- the things people value.

  42. union of international associations by Loconut1389 · · Score: 2, Funny

    could also be worded as "Association of International Associations". Hm. The department of redundancy department anyone?

  43. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by DrIdiot · · Score: 1

    I understand your point, and for conventional research, funding is very important. But in the case of FLT (and nonapplied mathematics or any field where the practical applications are not immediately obvious), money (or wealth) is a not large factor at all. Large monetary prizes have been offered for FLT but they came up with nothing for centuries. Perelman was not motivated by the monetary award from CMI. And in my opinion, if all the world's resources were devoted to proving the Collatz conjecture, we still wouldn't have a proof within the next decade (and that's a conservative estimate).

  44. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

    It's not that larger incentives can be awarded (I never said anything like that at all); it's that people can be freed up from other tasks entirely; i.e., fewer farmers, etc. are necessary to support the world, and can now be devoted toward the things on the list, so you now have more eyeballs looking at any one problem. And it wasn't just pure math problems that are on the list either.

    It seems like all you have to offer is your opinion that, "aha!!!! I found something whose discovery time can't be shortened at all!" Hey -- good for you.

  45. They forgot one very very important problem needin by 3seas · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... to be solved....

    How to make reliable electronic voting machines.

  46. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by DrIdiot · · Score: 1
    And it wasn't just pure math problems that are on the list either. I know, but you said "all" (problems would become trivial). That's really where I disagree.

    A non-mathematician has no shot at proving FLT or Poincare or the Riemann hypothesis. It seems like all you have to offer is your opinion that, "aha!!!! I found something whose discovery time can't be shortened at all!" Hey -- good for you.

    I provided an example to demonstrate a point. There are many problems which money (or wealth) have very limited effect in solving (and at the same time many where the effect is significant).

  47. Aha! But by Todamont · · Score: 0

    is justified true belief knowledge? (an "unanswered philosophy question", lol) Psycho-babble

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  49. The Gettier problem by mdsolar · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The Getties problem came up as an unsolved problem in epistemology, the theory of knowledge. It looks like a problem in unknown knowns to get my former boss backwards. It is listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolved_problems_in_ philosophy.

    [T]wo men, Smith and Jones, who are awaiting the results of their applications for the same job. Each man has ten coins in his pocket. Smith has excellent reasons to believe that Jones will get the job and, furthermore, knows that Jones has ten coins in his pocket (he recently counted them). From this Smith infers, "the man who will get the job has ten coins in his pocket." However, Smith is unaware that he has ten coins in his own pocket. Furthermore, Smith, not Jones, is going to get the job. While Smith has strong evidence to believe that Jones will get the job, he is wrong. Smith has a justified true belief that a man with ten coins in his pocket will get the job; however, according to Gettier, Smith does not know that a man with ten coins in his pocket will get the job, because Smith's belief is "...true in virtue of the number of coins in Smith's pocket, while Smith does not know how many coins are in Smith's pocket, and bases his belief...on a count of the coins in Jones's pocket, whom he falsely believes to be the man who will get the job."

    This seems to have something to do with the answer I sometimes give my son when he ask how to spell a word and I answer "With letters."

    The problem looks to me to be one of degenerate labeling when passing by reference. Basically, if Smith wants to believe something about people with coins in their pockets he is getting the answer to the question: some people have applied for a job, will one of them get it? If you redirect by the number of coins in a pocket, but you have not checked that this is a unique label, then the question ends up meaning something other than you think it means. The statement about the man with ten coins getting the job is true for the same reason that "A or not A" is true. Regardless of coins, there is no knowledge about the answer to the apparent question (who will be offered the job) until the decision has been made, and since neither Smith nor Jones make that decision, thay can't know its outcome till they are told.

    If anyone has worked on this I'd like to hear if this solution has already been discounted.
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    1. Re:The Gettier problem by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      The problem with Gettier's "Justified True Belief Knowledge" is that from an objective point of view, it is still subjective. Thus Gettier is referring to a more ancient problem of 'objectivity'.
      The existence of 'objectivity' has, is and still will be debated and argued until one finds real objective truth - whatever that may be! Good Luck.

      In the Smith and Jones example, your conclusion is correct as neither of them are allowed to make the decision, no matter what Smith or Jones assume to be the truth. It is the 'objective' party that has decided on the criteria that neither Smith or Jones (or the poser of the problem) are aware of.

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    2. Re:The Gettier problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      This excellent. Your answer is "With letters." or even better, a koan "What is truth?"

      I think you and I should offer a prize for the solution to this problem. This has become more and more of a tradition http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/25/233325 0. In order to to make it easy for the winner to decline the prize and thus demonstrate that the winner is a true philosopher, let us say that the person who demonstrates the existence of objective truth shall have the honor of paying us $5000 each. The winner shall be selected by popular acclamation.

      Self-referential demonstrations that objective truth does not exist shall be rewarded by demonstrators paying themselves.

      I claim the first of these with the statement "I think I think therefore I think I am." showing that the existence of the thinker is second order subjective and thus, practically speaking, objective truth is unapproachable. My prize award is contingent on a non-true philosopher disproving this since I can't afford to pay myself the prize.
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    3. Re:The Gettier problem by annodomini · · Score: 1

      You have explained why the Gettier example is not an example of knowledge. But that's what Gettier was saying; the old definition of knowledge being "justified true belief" was insufficient, since this example of justified true belief is not an example of knowledge. Or are you claiming that your argument shows how this example is not an example of "justified true belief," and thus Gettier's counterexample doesn't stand? The problem is to actually provide a testable definition of knowledge (testable meaning that you can formalize the definition in some sense, so anyone could apply your definition to a given situation and get a consistent result), that always matches what we intuitively know about what knowledge is. There are several proposed solutions, listed on the Wikipedia page about the problem, but there has been no general consensus on one of the solutions. Some people say that his example is bad, because the beliefs are not justified, some people provide more strict criteria other than just justification, and so on.

    4. Re:The Gettier problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      I think I was pointing to a possible flaw in the example that was not covered on the Wiki page, namely Smith lacks exhuastive knowledge of the number of coins (even though he could easily investigate) and thus does not see that that there is no way to distinguish between himself and Jones on the basis of the number of coins. A flaw in the example does not imply that the problem does not exist. For example, there are things that are true in formal systems that can not be demonstrated to be true within the formal system according to Godel, and this might be related to the problem posed here. So, I don't know if what I point to as a flaw actually solves the underlying problem by making it go away, or if the problem is more intractible and a better example would show this, or if I've not identified a flaw at all.

      If the other means that Smith employs to justify his belief is listening to the gossip that usually surrounds employment decisions, then he has no sort of knowledge on the other side either. Do you know of a clearer statement of the problem?
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    5. Re:The Gettier problem by Whiteox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Everything I've read in response to your initial post clarifies the problem of objectivity. To simplify- Just because Smith believes something to be true, even by 'real evidence' (Jones's 10 coins), can mean that:

      1. It really is false - Jones WILL be employed
      2. It is true - Smith will be employed
      3. It doesn't matter who gets employed as both have met the same condition for employment.

      That is a sub-set, independently existing without regard to the real knowledge of the criteria or the objective truth. To say that Smith has objective truth is thus wrong, even though he (and we as witness) knows it is 'justified knowledge'.

      Don't read too much into Gettier, as it was only a tool to try and circumvent 'faith'.

      This restates the problem in a simpler form:

      Whiteox: "I know there is a God. I have proof! I have justifiable knowledge that God exists"
      MDSolar; "That's nice. I'm happy for you."

      So when God opens up the heavens and makes them both realise that God exists (without faith) - then objective truth be known.

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    6. Re:The Gettier problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      It has happened to me a number of times that I have been right for the wrong reason, and only further work showed that the reasons that draped themselves on intuition were specious. Yet the certainty of the feeling of correctness that conjured those films of argument made me seek out the more subtle arguments that may have been present but not perceived at the initial insight. Then there have been more times when I just found out I was wrong from the git-go. To me, those "faith" feelings are guides to what might be important but do not count as knowledge, only hints. I've taken 'justified true belief' to mean rigorously demonstrated comprehension, and perhaps this is not what is meant. I see knowing you could be correct, and knowing you are correct as two different stages.

      Perhaps my hang up is that I tend to hold the word 'belief' in reserve for the unknowable. I'll use it when answering a question about where some one is: 'I beleive she is at the store.' meaning I don't know for sure but that was the plan.

      I suspect there is something more to this problem that I'm proposing, basically that it is like an early compiler that allowed ambigous entry points. But I haven't really felt any discomfort with the problem either to urge that it is fundemental.

      In any case, being right by accident must have something to do with it, and your example makes me think that God smiles at all our attemts in that particular direction.
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    7. Re:The Gettier problem by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Well said.
      Even better is R.D. Laing's (existential philosophy/psychology) comment that has stayed with me for many years (excuse the paraphrase) 'You can experience your own experiences, but you can never experience what other's experience'.
      That too applies, as I can never 'be' you, thus cannot experience the same, subjective experience; even if we both witnessed the same event, our experiences are qualitatively different.
      What can be said to be true, is that we were present in form as the event was occurring.

      This is too complicated for comparative ideology and there is a mass of reading to be shared on these issues, many from alternate, non-disciplinary based sources.

      Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurdjieff especially the section on Teachings.
      Apologies if you are already familiar with his concepts.

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    8. Re:The Gettier problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      I've been fascinates by Ouspensky's books and surmised that "My Dinner With Andre" was an echo of G.'s teachings but I had no idea that there was so much more material. Thanks for the link.

      I think James Joyce took some important steps on the problem of communicating internal experience in a way that induces close resonace with the communicator's own experience in the reader, and I also think generally that art is most able to bring about the sort of direct communication the G. was concerned with. Music performance, when it is working as intended, is certainly soul-to-soul transmission.

      On the communication of ideas though I find Einstein's introduction to "The Meaning of Relativity" to cover the basics. The external (objective) world provides a field on which we may mutually tune our internal experience and arrive at pretty good certainty that our experiences are adequately interchangable. I think this actually provides an answer to Chuang Tzu's dream in that he can discuss his dream as a philosopher but not as a butterfly and that participation with us in the discussion taken associatively with our particpation with Einstein in a recheckable discussion of the objective means that he is a philosopher and we are not merely the dream of a butterfly. This tie in answers a whole class of mystical intuitions that the world is illusion. What is actually happening is that the difficulty in communication of internal experience is providing a problem that is profound enough to warrant such speculation, but systematic effort shows that communication is possible and so the speculation needs to be directed elsewhere.
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    9. Re:The Gettier problem by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      'My Dinner With Andre' was a revelation.

      G. fascinated me as he spoke of 'objective truth'. The cosmology is incredibly interesting and the 'Weltanshauung' is pervasive across many disciplines. There seems to be a truth behind it, or a human racial memory that I recognize. Again - too much fallacy and commentary has muddied his 'Fragments of an Unknown Science'. Even he disguised what he could in 'Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson' - one book out of ten I would have if stranded on an island.
      There is a warning that he wrote about in a preface to Beelzebub's Tales (Vol 1). If you ever read it, then I too ate a whole bag of hot peppers!

      And slightly off-topic, here is the only meaningful excerpt from Monty Python's Meaning of Life. It occurs about half-way through the film, just before the Crimson Permanent Assurance attacks corporate USA.

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      [A lettering artist is just finishing painting the words
      'Liver Donors Inc' onto a wall plaque enumerating all the
      subsidiaries of the Very Big Corporation of America.]

      Chairman: [of the Very Big Corporation of America]... which brings
      us once again to the urgent realisation of just how much there
      is still left to own. Item 6 on the Agenda, the Meaning of
      Life... Now Harry, you've had some thoughts on this...

      Harry: That's right, yeah. I've had a team working on this over the
      past few weeks, and what we've come up with can be reduced to
      two fundamental concepts... One... people are not wearing
      enough hats. Two... matter is energy; in the Universe there
      are many energy fields which we cannot normally perceive. Some
      energies have a spiritual source which act upon a person's
      soul. However, this soul does not exist *ab inito*, as
      orthodox Christianity teaches; it has to be brought into
      existence by a process of guided self-observation. However,
      this is rarely achieved owing to man's unique ability to be
      distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia.

      [Pause.]

      Max: What was that about hats again?

      Harry: Er... people aren't wearing enough.

      Chairman: Is this true?

      Edmund: [who is sitting next to Harry] Certainly. Hat sales have
      increased, but not *pari passu... as our research -

      Bert: When you say 'enough', enough for what purpose...?

      Gunther: Can I ask with reference to your second point, when you
      say souls don't develop because people become distracted...
      has anyone noticed that building there before?

      [They all turn towards the window to see a building
      approaching or sliding into position outside.]

      All: Gulp! What? Good Lord!

      http://corky.net/scripts/meaning_life.html

      Trivial you may say, but it is probably the clearest explanation of one central 'reality' of the human condition as expressed by Ouspensky and G.
      You should also look a classical Sufism and Daoism (Taoism), Zoaroster (Hierarchy of Angels) etc

      However, let's not forget Western Philosophy. It is a very sound discipline!
      I agree that the world is no illusio

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    10. Re:The Gettier problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      G.'s promise of secret knowledge is a little problematic. C.S. Lewis has treated the problem of the "inner circle" as it pertains to ways to make people do things that they would not ordinarily do. Still, I get the feeling that G. is sincere in his belief that only esoteric training can communicate what he has to teach.

      When Jung speaks of differentiation, I think he feels that there is some ab inito material to work with so I'm not sure the Monty Python bit gets this just right. Still, one path is through attentive work and is probably open to many for whom the Road to Damascus presents difficulties.
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  51. unsure what category to place my question by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    "How many licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop?"

    Obviously, the erroneously-reported answer of 'three' is in the public consciousness, but that was hardly determined by the scientific method.

    Anyone here got experience in filling out government research grants? I'm willing to put in the time necessary to do the research, as long as I can get the funding.

    1. Re:unsure what category to place my question by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      you're wrong!!
      I've seen at least 500 separate tests of this hypothesis, all involving a wise old owl. adn the answer was always three. I mean, my god!!! sigma = 0.

    2. Re:unsure what category to place my question by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure you've seen the one owl test of this over and over. And where's the control? Absolutely no scientific value in that test whatsoever. I say good day to you, sir!

    3. Re:unsure what category to place my question by Bou · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see Kari solve this one.

    4. Re:unsure what category to place my question by neminem · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the answer is actually 42. Falls under the "and everything" clause.

  52. I solved one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Question: "Why did the universe have such low entropy in the past, resulting in the distinction between past and future and the second law of thermodynamics?"

    Answer: It didn't. Entropy is Boltzmann's constant times the log of the number of microstates consistent with the given macrostate. The macrostate "the universe" can only be in one microstate at any time, the microstate the universe is actually in. Any other microstate would be a hypothetical alternate universe, not "the universe." Thus the entropy of the universe is and will always be zero.

    The same goes for any actual object. Entropy is a property of *states*, not objects, and is purely a matter of how those states are defined.

  53. Re:I've been working on something similar, feedbac by justinlee37 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Paragraphs, man, paragraphs!

  54. dropping knowledge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's an organization called dropping knowledge, located in Berlin and San Francisco, which worked together with the Union of International Associations on creating and then using an ontology of themes into which the problems from the catalog of the UIA are organized, for enabling a global dialog on these issues on droppingknowledge.org.

    To kick of the discussion they built the world's biggest table and invited 112 people to Berlin on September 9th, 2006. All participants answered 100 questions collected on the website and were filmed during the event. Their 11200 answers are also part of the discussion including the video recorded at the event as well as transcriptions of all the answers.

  55. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Eskarel · · Score: 1

    The problem is that rewards != funding. Offering a million dollars to solve a Math problem doesn't mean that someone can quit their job and go work on the problem, because until they've solved it they don't have any money.

  56. Re:I've been working on something similar, feedbac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a look at open-source software. It's collaborative, usually high-quality,
    Er... What? Most software, whether open-source or closed-source, is rubbish. You just don't hear much about the bad software, because few people use it.
  57. Re:I've been working on something similar, feedbac by kwikrick · · Score: 1

    sorry, open problems have nothing to do with open source software. Mod parent 'off topic'.

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  58. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

    It's also the hardest because it's extremely difficult to perform a scientific experiment to test it. There are millions of variables to control, and uncontrollable, and you can't grab X governments at random and make them do something, dividing them neatly into control and test groups. (That's why it's hard for people to come to agreement about the matter.)

    Could MMORPG's and realistic computer models of human economic behavior change this? Maybe. Perhaps "Jennifer Government: NationStates"?

    http://www.nationstates.net/
  59. Ted Kaczynski already worked on that problem by gd23ka · · Score: 1

    ... he tried to solve it through the postal system.

  60. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    The freedom to do anything you want is called "anarchy," and I'm not sure it can be considered "government."
    Anarchy is a government of size zero.
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  61. What is Music? by Philip+Dorrell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What happens inside our minds when we listen to music? Why does enjoying music or being able to enjoy music make us have more grandchildren? What is the formula for calculating musicality?

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    Music: a super-stimulus for the perception of musicality. Musicality: a perceived aspect of speech.
    1. Re:What is Music? by chord.wav · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered what music is. IMHO music is the language for feelings. For example, not even 1 million words can make you feel as sad, lonely and miserable as Creep from Radiohead.

      If you want to get happy, you just play any happy track and 2 minutes later, your mood turned from whatever the previous state was.
      And there's no way for you feeling bad about something if you are listening to a song that makes you feel happy. Either you take the bad news as joke or you turn the music down.

      In "Tarantino connection", one track in an interview to him. he states that if you combine scenes with good music, then, there's no way for you to listen to the track without remembering the scene and vice versa. Couldn't find the exact quote..

  62. Unsolved problems in philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Employment

  63. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by asc99c · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A non-mathematician has no shot at proving FLT or Poincare or the Riemann hypothesis.

    I think the point is that with super-abundant resources, there would simply be more mathematicians. At present, intelligent people who would have a shot are going into fields like business, law, accountancy - fields where they can make money now. Maths can't compete with the salaries here, and unless you prove one of the dozen problems with a giant award waiting, you're not going to be a millionaire.

    If resources were enough that this just didn't matter, I think you'd naturally get a lot more people involved in this sort of thinking profession with no guaranteed payoff at the end.

  64. Something about this title is familiar... by ProppaT · · Score: 1

    "Want to Take On An Open/Unsolved Problem?"

    Sounds like every relationship I've ever been in. Sure, I'll give her a spin.

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  65. Damnit Jim... by ReidMaynard · · Score: 1

    I've got problems of my own here..

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  66. Re:They forgot one very very important problem nee by rbarreira · · Score: 1

    Nah, the real question is - "how to convince people that the concept of electronic voting is fundamentally retarded?".

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  67. Re:I've been working on something similar, feedbac by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

    Take a look at open-source software. It's collaborative, usually high-quality,

    Uh, some open source projects are. Most are not. In fact, the vast majority are not.

    and responsive to people's wants and needs

    Oh yeah, THAT explains why GIMP doesn't do the CMYK color model. That explains why most of the time copying and pasting of anything except text between applications (and sometimes within applications) doesn't work.

    I'm not going to delve any further off-topic, but suffice it to say that you're making a few bad assumptions at the beginning of your mega-paragraph there.

  68. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

    "if you know the answer to that, you can generate the wealth necessary to trivially solve all of the others."

    Remind me again, how does having a lot of money prove P = NP?

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  69. I'm working on the Van der Waerden Problem by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

    It's strange to see this resurface after so many years.

    I've been working on this problem on and off since college. I was introduced to this problem by an excellent professor named Dr. John Rabung. I've recently made what I think is interesting progress, but have not yet had it reviewed.

    I'm also in the process of developing a BOINC-based solver, but that's going slowly.

    If anyone else is working on this, I'd love to hear from you - please reply to this post!

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  70. This isn't a problem by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    It is only a problem because you make it so. If you define knowledge as "justified true belief", then you arrive to this contradiction because you have not specified how a belief is supposed to be justified. If Smith "justifies" his belief that Jones will get the job by counting the number of coins in Jones's pocket, he is just making an unrelated assertion. "A man with ten coins gets the job" is only a valid argument if the employer states this as a condition for employment. Otherwise, Smith might as well believe that a man with dark hair will get the job, or a man with a 63mm pinky will get the job, or whatever. He can believe whatever he wants, but he will still not know a thing. Knowledge consists of concepts that are logically rooted in reality, and thus can serve as valid representations of reality in cognition, which is the primary purpose of knowledge.

    To verify that a concept is rooted in reality, you must be able to logically deduce it from real premises. Sometimes this is not possible due to insufficient information, in which case your concept's reality becomes uncertain. This uncertainty depends on the amount of information you have and can be computed by using Bayesian inference rules. For example, if the employer in question explicitly states that only men with ten coins in their pockets will get the job and Smith has knowledge of his previous statements and knows that he keeps his word, then Smith can compute his degree of certainty that Jones will get the job from the employer's statement and Jones' coin count. Because the employer's choice is involved, no matter how honest he may be, it is unlikely that this certainty value will be 1. Also, Smith is predicting a future event, and his certainty value must necessarily be less than 1 because he does not have complete information about every event that might happen between his calculation and the employer's decision and how such events may influence the outcome.

    Absolute certainty is only possible when all information is available, and we may approach this in precisely defined fields such as mathematics. In most other disciplines some degree of uncertainty about our statements is inevitable, but by acquiring information, this uncertainty value can be made insignificant. It must be emphasized that this uncertainty is in our minds and does not in any way relate to the state of the universe. Smith and Jones may both have different certainty values for Jones' chance of employment, but neither number has any direct effect on who will really be employed. Both men have knowledge of the choice, but this knowledge is uncertain due to lack of informaiton. Knowledge is derived from reality, not the other way around. Because of this it is not proper to ask whether each man's conjecture is true, since the event has not occured (=been made real) yet. The proper questions to ask are whether each man had correct information on which to base his decision and whether he used proper rules of inference in manipulating them.

    There is an entire book on this subject, called "Probability Theory, The Logic of Science", which you are invited to read.

    1. Re:This isn't a problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure. You seem to be getting at the inference problem, which is still a bit of a Gordian knot with frequentist or alternative approaches. This is more about dumb luck, a bit like Godel's result.

      Also, some folks still feel that a priori knowledge is possible when you seem to claim that is is not.

      On the subject you raise, I've found "Scientific Explanation and the Causal Structure of the World" by Wesley C. Salmon http://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Explanation-Causa l-Structure-World/dp/0691101701/sr=1-9/qid=1170693 965/ref=sr_1_9/105-0836718-1902056?ie=UTF8&s=books to be helpful in laying out some of the stickier issues.
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    2. Re:This isn't a problem by Chemisor · · Score: 1

      > You seem to be getting at the inference problem, which is still a bit of a
      > Gordian knot with frequentist or alternative approaches.

      And the best way to solve a Gordian knot is to cut it, just like in the story. Read the Jaynes' book and you'll understand why the frequentist and any other approach is invalid. Really. The whole book is more or less about this very subject, with examples, extensive proofs and explorations.

      > Also, some folks still feel that a priori knowledge is possible when you seem to claim that is is not.

      What does it matter what they feel? The real world is what matters, people's feelings are irrelevant where knowledge is concerned, and people would do well to concentrate on reality and place far less importance on feelings. The progress of science would be greatly advanced this way.

      Second, a priori knowledge is possible, if you have all the necessary information. Suspend two billard balls somewhere in space, sufficiently far away from any large masses. Chart the surrounding space with radar out to a radius of a few light minutes. Give one of the balls a velocity vector so it hits the other. If you know the vector, the impact point, the surface structure of the balls, the makeup of all the moving bodies that might transit this area and impact your setup, etc, etc, etc. It is entirely possible in this case to know the trajectory of each ball after impact with certainty of 1. Certainty is only affected by availability of information, or the lack thereof. We can not be certain about future events if we can not predict other events between now and then that might influence them. If we can predict them, as in my empty-space-balls example, then absolute certainty is achievable.

      Even in more complex scenarios it is indeed possible to have absolute certainty, but it may be impractical, just like predicting weather. With enough simulation power it is quite possible to be absolutely certain that it will rain tomorrow. The question is whether we care enough, and at some point we just shrug and say it's certain enough. Do you really care about improving the certainty of your guess from 0.999999999 to 1? People can deal with a bit of uncertainty, so having a bit of uncertainty in our knowledge is acceptable.

      Searching for absolute truths is a good thing, and that is what mathematics is all about. Perhaps eventually we really will know everything with absolute certainty, because this really is possible. Until then, we can make do.

    3. Re:This isn't a problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      I'm reading, slowly, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, where there is a quaint attitude that a priori Knowledge is preferable. All creationist should read Hume to understand why they belittle God.

      I have heard good reports of Jaynes' book and I am a collector of books on statistics, being rather suspicious of them, so I think I'll follow your advice.
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    4. Re:This isn't a problem by Chemisor · · Score: 1

      > I'm reading, slowly, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, where there
      > is a quaint attitude that a priori Knowledge is preferable.

      Religious people don't want to learn, which is both the cause and effect of their beliefs. This inclination naturally leads to preferring knowledge acquired without having to do any learning. Sort of a lazy-man's education, where you know everything without any effort whatsoever. This particular definition of "a-priori knowledge" is definitely not what I had in mind when I suggested that a-priori knowledge is possible. All I said was that it is possible to be certain about a future event when all information affecting this event is known.

    5. Re:This isn't a problem by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      Hum, I got the impression that a priori was considered more rigorous that a postieriori. Certainly in science, theories that are fruitfully predictive are considered more beneficial than those which are simply usefully descriptive.

      The theory that the Sun is very likely to rise tommorrow because that is what it usually does in our experience is taken as less elegant than saying given the conservation of angular momentum as a fundemental law of physics, the Sun must rise tomorrow.

      I've suspected that there is a problem in this division, that the correspondence between physical law and repeated behavior formed a tautology somewhere. But then I look at Maxwell's Equations and say, Nah, couldn't be.
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  71. By asking! by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    If you ask enough women on a date, eventually one of them will agree. The more you ask, the better your chances. Because you probably live in a populated area with millions of people, you ought to have a million women to bother. If it takes you ten minutes on average to find a woman and ask "Hey, wanna have dinner sometime?", then you can ask nearly a hundred women out every day. More if you work hard. If you are so unappealing that only one woman in a thousand will agree to go out with you, on average you'll have a date every five days.

    Then you can move on to the next great problem: how do you keep a date?

  72. problems to solve blog by jordan314 · · Score: 1

    I started a blog a while ago called http://problemstosolve.com/about/problems to solve, with the same purpose of cataloging solved problems, along with recording their associated methods and experiences on the internet. My goal has been to open this site up to a large user base that can tag and solve their problems collectively, and help each other solve theirs. Right now it's just a wordpress blog though; if anyone feels like contributing (I can give you a wordpress login) or helping the site get set up (work with me on a new PHP interface) and turn it into a community resource please contact me at jordan314 at yahoo dot com.

  73. Asking for help by mdsolar · · Score: 1

    No problem is solved without at least a little thought, and these problems apparently have come in for considerable thought. Collecting them in this way brings attention to all of them and thus may increase the amount of thought being spent on them.

    In some ways, this is no different than sending people to school where such things are discussed. And, passed unsolved problems, like the difficulty in finding a fractional form for pi, have been solved in this way.

    So, I'd say this is the usual means for handling these kinds of problems and for coming up with new ones too.
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  74. NFSNET by rbannon · · Score: 1

    The NFSNET project uses the Number Field Sieve to find the factors of increasingly large numbers. It's a small group and they need your help. I run their app on my dual G5 without trouble for years now.

  75. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Surt · · Score: 1

    I was on a pretty good track toward solving P=NP, but had to give it up to go earn a living for my family. Multiply me by a million people, and one of us would have gotten there by now.

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  76. Mind-Body Problem by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    I can solve the Mind-Body problem right now - the brain is the hardware, the mind is a virtual construct of the running software on that brain hardware (or wetware). In one sense they are separate in that one is virtual where the other is physical, however the mind is reliant on the brain much like a running kernel is dependant on CPU(s), RAM and other hardware - the brain can exist without the mind but the reverse is not true.

    The question of 'what happens when you die?' can be answered the same as 'what happens to the game I'm playing if I turn off the computer or console without saving?'

    Using this logic I can prove that a) your mind can live forever if you can find suitable hardware to run it on (however it must remain in a running state as it cannot be shut down or rebooted) and b) the people who get cryogenically frozen are wasting their money as to 'bring someone back to life' who is frozen would require saving the session state of every electron in the brain at time of death and being able to replace and re-start them as they were. If you could do that you probably wouldn't need to.

  77. Re:They forgot one very very important problem nee by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

    Retarded? Yes, though less retarded than our current system.

  78. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by thehickcoder · · Score: 1

    You are assuming P/NP is solvable.

  79. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Tango42 · · Score: 1

    If it's not solvable, it should at least be possible to prove that it isn't solvable. Or, more precisely, that it is independent of the standard axiomatic system. Proving a question is independent of your axioms still counts as an answer as far as mathematicians are concerned.

  80. I hate this joke... by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

    god, I hate this joke...
    I hear it EVERY F***ING TIME when I tell people what I do on my free time...

    letters don't always stand for numbers...
    P is the set of decision problems that can be exactly solved by a turing machine with _P_olynomial time complexity
    NP is the set of decision problems that can be exactly solved by a _N_on-deterministic turing machine with _P_olynomial time complexity...

    "is P = NP or is P =/= NP?" is the most important question in hundreds of areas of research...
    now I'll go and cry again because it upsets me not to know this answer :-(

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  81. Re: Want to Take On An Open/Unsolved Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps if two swallows carried the coconut. But they'd have to have it on a line.

  82. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by Surt · · Score: 1

    You are assuming I am assuming.

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  83. stupid by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    * Life

                    * How did it start?
    non-scientific question, won't be able to verify with experiment
                    * Is life a cosmic phenomenon?
                    * Are the conditions necessary for the origin of life narrow or broad?
                    * Did life start on this planet or was there an extraterrestrial intervention (for example a meteor from another planet)?
    non-scientific question, won't be able to verify with experiment
                    * Is immortality possible?
    non-scientific question, won't be able to verify with experiment

            * DNA / Genome

                    * What are all the functions of DNA?
    This is just plain stupid unscientific.
                    * What is the evolutionary origin of every gene and every base pair?
    non-scientific question, won't be able to verify with experiment
                    * What is the Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA)?
    non-scientific question, won't be able to verify with experiment
                    * What is the complete structure and function of the proteins expressed by a cell or organ at a particular time and under specific conditions?
    This is just plain stupid unscientific.
                    * What is the complete function of the regulator genes?
    This is just plain stupid unscientific.
                    * Does Junk DNA function as molecular garbage?
    Not a question
                    * The C-value enigma: what are the functions of noncoding DNA, and why do different organisms have very variable amounts of it?
    Some functions already known. Second part does not even qualify for a paper.

            * Consciousness / Self

                    * What is it?
    Absolutely unscientific
                    * Why is it necessary for many animals (especially mammals) to dream?
    Unscientific question
                    * What are the inheritable characteristics of intelligence?
    Some of them are already known. No question.

            * Bioelectromagnetism

                    * How do animals possess long-range navigation and migration abilities?
    Answered in a different form. In this form unscientific.
                    * How was the homing ability developed?
    Unscientific. Unable to verify with experiment
                    * How can some animals detect earthquake precursors?
    That is very special question that deserves a paper but not the inclusion in the list.
                    * What are the effects of natural electric fields?
    Stupid.

            * Viruses / Immune system

                    * What are the signs of current or past infection to discover where Ebola hides between human outbreaks?
    Interesting, but hardly deserve inclusion in the list.
                    * What is the origin of antibody diversity?
    If it is as in "origin of life", then it is unscientific. If it is as in "mechanism" then the question is pretty much answered already.
                    * What is the relationship between the immune system and the brain?
    Stupid. Too broad. Many aspects already known.
                    * Why doesn't a mother's immune system reject the different DNA of a fetus?
    Answered already.

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  84. another stupidity by mapkinase · · Score: 1
    http://www.diversitas.org/db/x.php?dbcode=pr&viewt ype=text&sz=100&subject=1110&go=e&id=12005330

    The biggest fear about genetic engineering of medicaments is that it would be used for social purposes and not medical purposes
    This is not scientific question or problem. This is a social problem. Why on earth it's in the Biology section I have no idea.
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  85. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by gwyrdd+benyw · · Score: 1

    I once solved P=NP while doodling in my combinatorics class, but I didn't have enough space to give the solution in the margin.

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  86. Interested in this idea by snadrus · · Score: 1

    What would really need to be added? Please describe. This shouldn't be that hard to achieve.

    Dynamic Tables:
    insert into newTable values (1,2,3,4);
    would create a table with 4 columns? Numbered columns?

    Why not just prefix this with something like-
    create table newTable (c1, c2, c3, c4);

    Dynamic columns?
    What's the goal here? Do you want to add columns dynamically as needed?

    What else is necessary to have a 'dynamic' database? I really think the sqlite.org guys will work with you on this. We can always offer code to them or even fork.

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  87. Re:One of the problems taken from wikipedia in eco by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 1

    P=NP is easy to solve. When P=0 or N=1, then P=NP. Also if P<0 and N=i. Otherwise P<>NP.

    Maybe I should get a job as a mathemagician:
    "But 7 goes into 28 four times!"
    "Err...this is a magic 7!"

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