First off, you should see Avalon. Very well done Mamoru Oshii movie which is essentially what this discussion is about: the merger of life and video game.
But to all the D&D players out there, an important point is missed with video games, especially when it merges with real life. Life is larger than any game. Imagination is larger than its shadow as represented in video games. I don't pretend to want to eliminate MMORPGs, but its critical to emphasize why human contact is important. This is lost on most who engage in games so seriously. When we mix games and reality by allowing money to be made we highten the fun of the game by upping its stakes. But we also give a reason to remove oneself even more from reality.
We can't stop the merger of reality (in the form of real treasure) and video games, but we should oppose it even still. If its not you that needs to pull his head out of the screen, it will be your children. I include myself on that list, so I'm not preaching.
Sorry to sound contrarian, but PLEASE! You, or your sorry companions failed the course because you didn't see the obvious answer. And before you run off on "why should I have to do that, they should teach it right the first time!" consider that its simply a game. How much of anything you learn in any school, at any level, is actually used in real life? 30%? Maybe!
1. AUDIT THE TOUGH COURSES BEFORE TAKING THEM FOR CREDIT. and/or...
2. Be a Gym major, get a 4.0 and go to Georgetown, MIT or Stanford for grad school. Audit the courses and sail into grad school instead of the slobs who ACTUALLY struggled through the tough ones and can't get in because of their 2.9 GPA.
That's what I learned in my math courses: How to play the game.
Because we participate in our Reality through the very perception of it, Augmented reality is, unfortunatly, an accurate term.
Without elaborating too much or giving too many examples: take a colored light and shine it at a wall. Hold up a opaque object and you will see the complimentory color of the light as the shadow. Yes, you might narrow it down to biochemistry in our optics, but if you look at this result purely empirically, it shows our perception of reality if far from REAL. We do not observe the vibrations know to our perceptions as color and light. We percieve a completely different "reality" from actual reality.
Read a little Goethe to cover the light and color phenomena.
It is not a pure fingerprint reader anymore, it is a "living specimen" and fingerprint reader. Sure the old ones are still sold, but they are considered low end. If any real security is needed, the latest generation will detect living versus dead. The previous post mentions the same with iris readers. The same is true of retinal, hand geometry, and voice print (theoretically by multiple passes). The only one I'm not sure of is facial geometry, but I would assume that digital video from which its taken would clear up the issue of dead or alive;-).
Lets see how long it takes to hack the new systems. It seems to me the real vulnerability is not in the recognition, but in the fact that the system is computerized and therefore hackable. And as we all bemoan with Biometrics, once comprimised, forever lost.
"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Lindon. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."
"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Lindon. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."
Every serious post here is about the breach of security and if they should be prosecuted. Well, Ubisoft/Wolfpack I'm sure just got the attention they didn't want by the/. story, but the result is likely to increase their sales. Hell, I'm not into games so much, but I wish I could see the results of the hack. It sounds absolutely hilarious. This sounds like what the game needed to be propelled back into a top spot.
And you better secure your other online games out there. They have just become a MAJOR target. These hackers are instant celebrities, not just criminals.
These theories are not just philosophical wanderings. They are based in mathmatics, which, when carried out to its edges show us the shapes and ideas of our universe that sound philosophical when they are put to prose. Its that simple.
You're right. I re-read the article and I missed the part of no oxigen. I assumed that the O2 was still part of the equation, and that the H2 was the energy source not the catalyst.
thanks.
But the comment I was referring to: that the subterranean bacteria in question derive energy from chemicals (chemosynthesis) rather than from sunglight (photosynthesis). This discovery in itself was breathtaking
was worded incorectly. I was commenting more on the comparison of Chemo vs. Photo than the article.
Your point is frightening. The control of X# would be easy, and would not need to be GPL to conform to partial compatibility. Or at least temporary compatibility.
Its simple. Take the desktop over by offering the XP look and feel to Linux users (newbies would be happy to comply). Review XFree86, but code X# yourself, they've got the resources. Offer existing Win products, remember that MS would not be compelled to publish the API. They could do it selectively. Close the source (of course everyone will hack on it), and give it away (IE style). Gain the desktop market share. Move slowly away from compatibility. Stop publishing the API. Voila, Windows and Linux Kernel. Cripple it later, or even in all irony, keep using the kernel and move the windows dynasty to linux-under-the-hood instead. Why not? Costs less, less filling.
In all seriousness, its not a bad strategy to extend and embrace Linux. It would work!
Your point is taken. The control of X# would be easy, and would not need to be GPL to conform to partial compatibility. Or at least temporary compatibility.
Its simple. Take the desktop over by offering the XP look and feel to Linux users. Review XFree86, but code it yourself. Offer compatibilty to existing Win products. Close the source (of course everyone will hack on it), and give it away (IE style). Gain the desktop market share. Move slowly away from compatibility. Stop publishing the API. Voila, Windows and Linux Kernel. Cripple it later, or even in all irony, keep using the kernel and move the windows dynasty to linux-under-the-hood instead. Why not? Costs less, less filling.
In all seriousness, its not a bad strategy to extend and embrace Linux. It would work!
Pressure effects are not just seen in gaseous exchanges, but with gaseous cavities. Boyles law gives us the volume reduction with pressure of an ideal gas, and that is what makes scuba diving so difficult for humans. Fish use a gas bladder to regulate boyancy, which is why deep species often burst when you catch them and haul them to the surface. Bacteria or any other species (including fish using gaseous exchange) generally don't have problems with deep sea pressures. The problems mostly come with the change in pressure, not the steady application of it over time. That is adapted to.
Whoa there. Yes it was groundbreaking in the 70's. This has been a standard in Oceanographic texts since before I started. Sure its deeper than expected, but the overall picture is an extension of existing theory, not something new. And as far as farming... Hydrogen sulfide is poisonous and the vent temperatures are hot enough to melt the first thermometers used to measure them, so its not as easy as potatoes. And I would have to look at the bacterial production rates again, but I would guess that the entire global vent systems would not support much of a human population, let alone its appetite.
No, not really. They are using oxigen the way we do, but they are using Chemosynthesis instead of Photosynthesis for their primary production. They are using the reduction of Hydrogen sulfides as their energy source to drive atp synthesis.
This is normally driven by photoreduction of the chlorophyll molecule in a photosynthetic system. This is a rough draft, as its been a while since I went over it.
Even if the oil is being created and is not a classic finite source, it is not being utilized in a proportion that any bacteria would be able to compete with.
In 1900, the world consumed less than a half million barrels of oil per day (each barrel contains 42 gallons), 80 percent supplied by the United States. By 2000, the world was consuming 67 million barrels per day, and the U.S. was producing only about one-tenth of the total -- less than half its own requirements.
Can you really expect that the consumption would ever be realistically matched by production? I would propose that even if this assumption of bacterial production is true, the rate of consumption is reckless.
That's the best part. LOOK AT THE MAP!. If you know Amsderdam, you'll see very light traffic at the redlight district that most tourists would go to. I have a hard time finding traffic at the the Bulldog, but I see most Dutch avoiding the redlight when moving downtown by using the main street opposite the district! I also, from a cursory look, see possibly the Milkweg, and Rembrandt Platz lit up. Cant's say for sure, though. Very interesting!
"That would rock if you could "arrest" corporations.:-)"
You can, its called an injunction. It freezes them from acting, which is the same thing as prison for an individual. Consider that when the government is reviewing the M$ case.
Of course the marketers knew what they were doing with the ads. Did they not realize they were breaking the law? Of course they knew. They were counting on it, and by making waves, they were counting on getting on CNN and maybe others (/.). If they didn't make a fuss and apologize and such, then I, who am not a New Yorker, would never have known or seen the photo of the campaign.
It worked. That's why they did it, and took the risk. So what if they have to pay a few dollars, even per butterfly. Its cheaper than running an add, most likely!
In his book, Anatomy of an Illness, Norman Cousins went 95% of the way to prove this in over twenty five years ago. I remember reading this as a teen and feeling like the medical establishment would take at least 100 years to recognize the work. As it turns out they have done it in less than 25!
A quick review covers the basics.
Here's one of the best possible routes through college I've seen. This was my roomate's path, and I have to say I'm a bit more than jealous.
Take the easiest, shortest route through. The major with the least credits and the easiest classes. Its is usually some social science or religious studies (sorry, but its true). Have fun, party, but get all A's: its easy to because there are no diff eq's to trip you up. Once finished doodle around a bit, have fun, but apply for grad school. With your 4.0 GRADE AVERAGE you'll get into Harvard (or the like-pedigree makes a huge difference!). And besides, who wouldn't want a well rounded religious studies major signing up for comp sci or law.
Moral of the story. My ex-roomie pulls down high 6 figures after a law degree from Georgetown! not bad for a religious studies major who, when finished logged trees for a year or two to make ends meat.
Mod this one up. Its a true story, and if I had to do it again, I'd do it this way...
Yes, RAID is for redundancy, not back-up, but the difference is really about how you configure it and if you need offsite storage. Let me explain our systems.
We build large (600MB-1TB) systems, either on W2k or RHL (Honestly our customers almost never prefer RHL and I'm waiting for WINE to get to 1.0 to be able to convince them to switch, but that's a tangent...) for digital storage of security video. We have specialized hardware to capture and record onto a pc's EIDE disk drives, and use 3ware cards to expand the EIDE array. Tape back-up of such large systems is useless not only because of the time to write the data, but the recovery speed is not viable for video. It takes hours to review the damn tapes. Might as well spend less and stick to VHS! So our method is such.
Normally in security video data, the cost to mirror or back up is beyond means of the customer, but when they ask for it we set up a three way back up. We dump the data to one of three disk array sets, either locally or across a high speed line. This way we only erase the oldest version before laying down the new copy. This prevents catastrophic loss in-between erasure and new back-up (mentioned above). We do have customers using pull-out drives, and we have very little trouble with them. We use the expensive trays (not the plastic crap), and they hold up fine. And the drives are pretty hardy also. Don't drop it, thats true, but don't freak either.
We normally don't mirror, you don't get 2 versions (2 months of recorded video) and generally a very expensive way to "back-up" (TCO and maintanence). And I have found that the best way to keep a hard drive back up is not to turn them off. Keep the system spinning and the drives last longer.
Also a point is that if the data is not hyper critical, than the hard disk mtbf rate should be sufficient. Take in mind that there are "no quibble" warrantees for most drives. They'll ship you a new one before you send them the kaput one. That improves up time, and generally you don't offer a guarentee you expect to honor;)
Over-all, ignore the nay-sayers. Hard disks work for back up, its cheap, and you can't have the low latency/record/review time with any other low cost back up.
Its worth the extra care!
btw, here's a shameless plug of our site, and we have bought up the remaining stock of 3ware cards to build systems. drop a line if you want one for a deal.
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First off, you should see Avalon. Very well done Mamoru Oshii movie which is essentially what this discussion is about: the merger of life and video game.
But to all the D&D players out there, an important point is missed with video games, especially when it merges with real life. Life is larger than any game. Imagination is larger than its shadow as represented in video games. I don't pretend to want to eliminate MMORPGs, but its critical to emphasize why human contact is important. This is lost on most who engage in games so seriously. When we mix games and reality by allowing money to be made we highten the fun of the game by upping its stakes. But we also give a reason to remove oneself even more from reality.
We can't stop the merger of reality (in the form of real treasure) and video games, but we should oppose it even still. If its not you that needs to pull his head out of the screen, it will be your children. I include myself on that list, so I'm not preaching.
Sorry to sound contrarian, but PLEASE! You, or your sorry companions failed the course because you didn't see the obvious answer. And before you run off on "why should I have to do that, they should teach it right the first time!" consider that its simply a game. How much of anything you learn in any school, at any level, is actually used in real life? 30%? Maybe!
1. AUDIT THE TOUGH COURSES BEFORE TAKING THEM FOR CREDIT. and/or...
2. Be a Gym major, get a 4.0 and go to Georgetown, MIT or Stanford for grad school. Audit the courses and sail into grad school instead of the slobs who ACTUALLY struggled through the tough ones and can't get in because of their 2.9 GPA.
That's what I learned in my math courses: How to play the game.
Because we participate in our Reality through the very perception of it, Augmented reality is, unfortunatly, an accurate term.
Without elaborating too much or giving too many examples: take a colored light and shine it at a wall. Hold up a opaque object and you will see the complimentory color of the light as the shadow. Yes, you might narrow it down to biochemistry in our optics, but if you look at this result purely empirically, it shows our perception of reality if far from REAL. We do not observe the vibrations know to our perceptions as color and light. We percieve a completely different "reality" from actual reality.
Read a little Goethe to cover the light and color phenomena.
It is not a pure fingerprint reader anymore, it is a "living specimen" and fingerprint reader. Sure the old ones are still sold, but they are considered low end. If any real security is needed, the latest generation will detect living versus dead. The previous post mentions the same with iris readers. The same is true of retinal, hand geometry, and voice print (theoretically by multiple passes). The only one I'm not sure of is facial geometry, but I would assume that digital video from which its taken would clear up the issue of dead or alive ;-).
Lets see how long it takes to hack the new systems. It seems to me the real vulnerability is not in the recognition, but in the fact that the system is computerized and therefore hackable. And as we all bemoan with Biometrics, once comprimised, forever lost.
"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Lindon. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."
"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Lindon. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of SCO"
Every serious post here is about the breach of security and if they should be prosecuted. Well, Ubisoft/Wolfpack I'm sure just got the attention they didn't want by the /. story, but the result is likely to increase their sales. Hell, I'm not into games so much, but I wish I could see the results of the hack. It sounds absolutely hilarious. This sounds like what the game needed to be propelled back into a top spot.
And you better secure your other online games out there. They have just become a MAJOR target. These hackers are instant celebrities, not just criminals.
These theories are not just philosophical wanderings. They are based in mathmatics, which, when carried out to its edges show us the shapes and ideas of our universe that sound philosophical when they are put to prose. Its that simple.
The Tooth phone. I would just love to hear (arh arh) his take on it.
You're right. I re-read the article and I missed the part of no oxigen. I assumed that the O2 was still part of the equation, and that the H2 was the energy source not the catalyst.
thanks.
But the comment I was referring to:
that the subterranean bacteria in question derive energy from chemicals (chemosynthesis) rather than from sunglight (photosynthesis). This discovery in itself was breathtaking
was worded incorectly. I was commenting more on the comparison of Chemo vs. Photo than the article.
No this is not flamebait.
Your point is frightening. The control of X# would be easy, and would not need to be GPL to conform to partial compatibility. Or at least temporary compatibility.
Its simple. Take the desktop over by offering the XP look and feel to Linux users (newbies would be happy to comply). Review XFree86, but code X# yourself, they've got the resources. Offer existing Win products, remember that MS would not be compelled to publish the API. They could do it selectively. Close the source (of course everyone will hack on it), and give it away (IE style). Gain the desktop market share. Move slowly away from compatibility. Stop publishing the API. Voila, Windows and Linux Kernel. Cripple it later, or even in all irony, keep using the kernel and move the windows dynasty to linux-under-the-hood instead. Why not? Costs less, less filling.
In all seriousness, its not a bad strategy to extend and embrace Linux. It would work!
we should all sit up and take notice.
No this is not flamebait.
Your point is taken. The control of X# would be easy, and would not need to be GPL to conform to partial compatibility. Or at least temporary compatibility.
Its simple. Take the desktop over by offering the XP look and feel to Linux users. Review XFree86, but code it yourself. Offer compatibilty to existing Win products. Close the source (of course everyone will hack on it), and give it away (IE style). Gain the desktop market share. Move slowly away from compatibility. Stop publishing the API. Voila, Windows and Linux Kernel. Cripple it later, or even in all irony, keep using the kernel and move the windows dynasty to linux-under-the-hood instead. Why not? Costs less, less filling.
In all seriousness, its not a bad strategy to extend and embrace Linux. It would work!
we should all sit up and take notice.
Pressure effects are not just seen in gaseous exchanges, but with gaseous cavities. Boyles law gives us the volume reduction with pressure of an ideal gas, and that is what makes scuba diving so difficult for humans. Fish use a gas bladder to regulate boyancy, which is why deep species often burst when you catch them and haul them to the surface. Bacteria or any other species (including fish using gaseous exchange) generally don't have problems with deep sea pressures. The problems mostly come with the change in pressure, not the steady application of it over time. That is adapted to.
Whoa there. Yes it was groundbreaking in the 70's. This has been a standard in Oceanographic texts since before I started. Sure its deeper than expected, but the overall picture is an extension of existing theory, not something new. And as far as farming... Hydrogen sulfide is poisonous and the vent temperatures are hot enough to melt the first thermometers used to measure them, so its not as easy as potatoes. And I would have to look at the bacterial production rates again, but I would guess that the entire global vent systems would not support much of a human population, let alone its appetite.
No, not really. They are using oxigen the way we do, but they are using Chemosynthesis instead of Photosynthesis for their primary production. They are using the reduction of Hydrogen sulfides as their energy source to drive atp synthesis.
This is normally driven by photoreduction of the chlorophyll molecule in a photosynthetic system. This is a rough draft, as its been a while since I went over it.
Even if the oil is being created and is not a classic finite source, it is not being utilized in a proportion that any bacteria would be able to compete with.
In 1900, the world consumed less than a half million barrels of oil per day (each barrel contains 42 gallons), 80 percent supplied by the United States. By 2000, the world was consuming 67 million barrels per day, and the U.S. was producing only about one-tenth of the total -- less than half its own requirements.
Can you really expect that the consumption would ever be realistically matched by production? I would propose that even if this assumption of bacterial production is true, the rate of consumption is reckless.
That's the best part. LOOK AT THE MAP!. If you know Amsderdam, you'll see very light traffic at the redlight district that most tourists would go to. I have a hard time finding traffic at the the Bulldog, but I see most Dutch avoiding the redlight when moving downtown by using the main street opposite the district! I also, from a cursory look, see possibly the Milkweg, and Rembrandt Platz lit up. Cant's say for sure, though. Very interesting!
"That would rock if you could "arrest" corporations. :-)"
You can, its called an injunction. It freezes them from acting, which is the same thing as prison for an individual. Consider that when the government is reviewing the M$ case.
Of course the marketers knew what they were doing with the ads. Did they not realize they were breaking the law? Of course they knew. They were counting on it, and by making waves, they were counting on getting on CNN and maybe others (/.). If they didn't make a fuss and apologize and such, then I, who am not a New Yorker, would never have known or seen the photo of the campaign. It worked. That's why they did it, and took the risk. So what if they have to pay a few dollars, even per butterfly. Its cheaper than running an add, most likely!
In his book, Anatomy of an Illness, Norman Cousins went 95% of the way to prove this in over twenty five years ago. I remember reading this as a teen and feeling like the medical establishment would take at least 100 years to recognize the work. As it turns out they have done it in less than 25! A quick review covers the basics.
And the Job market is also a sphere. Then if: dQ/dtA = -k(dT/dx) and k is positive... voila!
Check out Icaza's .NET adoption strategy. Drop Java? No more GPL for GNOME? Interesting read...
Here's one of the best possible routes through college I've seen. This was my roomate's path, and I have to say I'm a bit more than jealous. Take the easiest, shortest route through. The major with the least credits and the easiest classes. Its is usually some social science or religious studies (sorry, but its true). Have fun, party, but get all A's: its easy to because there are no diff eq's to trip you up. Once finished doodle around a bit, have fun, but apply for grad school. With your 4.0 GRADE AVERAGE you'll get into Harvard (or the like-pedigree makes a huge difference!). And besides, who wouldn't want a well rounded religious studies major signing up for comp sci or law. Moral of the story. My ex-roomie pulls down high 6 figures after a law degree from Georgetown! not bad for a religious studies major who, when finished logged trees for a year or two to make ends meat. Mod this one up. Its a true story, and if I had to do it again, I'd do it this way...
Yes, RAID is for redundancy, not back-up, but the difference is really about how you configure it and if you need offsite storage. Let me explain our systems.
We build large (600MB-1TB) systems, either on W2k or RHL (Honestly our customers almost never prefer RHL and I'm waiting for WINE to get to 1.0 to be able to convince them to switch, but that's a tangent...) for digital storage of security video. We have specialized hardware to capture and record onto a pc's EIDE disk drives, and use 3ware cards to expand the EIDE array. Tape back-up of such large systems is useless not only because of the time to write the data, but the recovery speed is not viable for video. It takes hours to review the damn tapes. Might as well spend less and stick to VHS! So our method is such.
Normally in security video data, the cost to mirror or back up is beyond means of the customer, but when they ask for it we set up a three way back up. We dump the data to one of three disk array sets, either locally or across a high speed line. This way we only erase the oldest version before laying down the new copy. This prevents catastrophic loss in-between erasure and new back-up (mentioned above). We do have customers using pull-out drives, and we have very little trouble with them. We use the expensive trays (not the plastic crap), and they hold up fine. And the drives are pretty hardy also. Don't drop it, thats true, but don't freak either.
We normally don't mirror, you don't get 2 versions (2 months of recorded video) and generally a very expensive way to "back-up" (TCO and maintanence). And I have found that the best way to keep a hard drive back up is not to turn them off. Keep the system spinning and the drives last longer.
Also a point is that if the data is not hyper critical, than the hard disk mtbf rate should be sufficient. Take in mind that there are "no quibble" warrantees for most drives. They'll ship you a new one before you send them the kaput one. That improves up time, and generally you don't offer a guarentee you expect to honor;)
Over-all, ignore the nay-sayers. Hard disks work for back up, its cheap, and you can't have the low latency/record/review time with any other low cost back up.
Its worth the extra care!
btw, here's a shameless plug of our site, and we have bought up the remaining stock of 3ware cards to build systems. drop a line if you want one for a deal.